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 47 2015-10-07T08:59:08  <GitHub94> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4fac576c619f...49dd5c629df0
 48 2015-10-07T08:59:08  <GitHub94> bitcoin/master b196b68 Gregory Maxwell: Test LowS in standardness, removes nuisance malleability vector....
 49 2015-10-07T08:59:09  <GitHub94> bitcoin/master 49dd5c6 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge pull request #6769...
 50 2015-10-07T08:59:15  <GitHub89> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #6769: Test LowS in standardness, removes nuisance malleability vector. (master...no_nuisance_malleability) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6769
 51 2015-10-07T09:13:46  <GitHub107> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.10: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/b1d76af0ea35dc349f96251496fdfafe3ffab759
 52 2015-10-07T09:13:47  <GitHub107> bitcoin/0.10 b1d76af Gregory Maxwell: Test LowS in standardness, removes nuisance malleability vector....
 53 2015-10-07T09:19:31  <GitHub13> [bitcoin] laanwj force-pushed 0.10 from b1d76af to 1cea6b0: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commits/0.10
 54 2015-10-07T09:19:31  <GitHub13> bitcoin/0.10 1cea6b0 Gregory Maxwell: Test LowS in standardness, removes nuisance malleability vector....
 55 2015-10-07T09:23:46  <wumpus> needed force-push: forgot the sign the commit
 56 2015-10-07T09:25:07  <CodeShark> no harm :)
 57 2015-10-07T09:32:34  <GitHub136> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.11: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/71cc9d9fe829efd9c9b012c4cd1ece1d988b4869
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 60 2015-10-07T09:51:33  <dcousens> gmaxwell: another day, another fund-losing bug in JS land
 61 2015-10-07T09:52:08  <dcousens> This one affects all devices on Android 4.3 or below
 62 2015-10-07T09:52:17  <dcousens> Not even sure how many wallets are affected
 63 2015-10-07T09:52:22  <dcousens> But, I know at least 3
 64 2015-10-07T09:53:19  <CodeShark> oh?
 65 2015-10-07T09:54:38  <dcousens> CodeShark: 4.3 web views overflow when assigning 32 bit integers to UInt8 byte arrays
 66 2015-10-07T09:54:48  <dcousens> Not consistently either
 67 2015-10-07T09:54:56  <dcousens> But,  we have solid repro
 68 2015-10-07T09:55:32  <dcousens> CodeShark: https://github.com/feross/buffer/pull/81
 69 2015-10-07T09:56:16  <CodeShark> this sounds more serious than just potentially fund-losing
 70 2015-10-07T09:56:46  <dcousens> CodeShark: question is,  where do you even post it?
 71 2015-10-07T09:57:04  <dcousens> I'm thinking about writing it up for bitcoinjs-lib,  bitcore etc
 72 2015-10-07T09:57:08  <CodeShark> contact the wallet authors?
 73 2015-10-07T09:58:17  <dcousens> CodeShark: hard to tell who uses JS under the hood
 74 2015-10-07T09:58:26  <dcousens> I know CoPay does, and it doesn't use XWalk
 75 2015-10-07T09:58:54  <dcousens> I know BlockTrail does (already contacted, their doing a migration now, Ruben helped discover this when users reported mismatched key derivations)
 76 2015-10-07T09:59:34  <dcousens> Basically every webwallet [when run on android 4.3 w/o a new version of Chrome]
 77 2015-10-07T09:59:50  <dcousens> (Assuming* they use typed arrays)
 78 2015-10-07T10:00:46  <CodeShark> all browser controls in android in all apps use this same web view control?
 79 2015-10-07T10:02:01  <dcousens> CodeShark: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/webkit/WebView.html
 80 2015-10-07T10:02:37  <dcousens> Typically the SDK has 1 WebView implementation, and depending on certain factors, it may or may not be the same one as the phones default browser
 81 2015-10-07T10:04:04  <CodeShark> and the correct behavior should be? crashing? truncation?
 82 2015-10-07T10:04:18  <dcousens> CodeShark: %256
 83 2015-10-07T10:04:22  <dcousens> mod 256
 84 2015-10-07T10:04:30  <CodeShark> so the least significant byte
 85 2015-10-07T10:04:56  <dcousens> aye
 86 2015-10-07T10:05:02  <dcousens> that is the *defined* behaviour
 87 2015-10-07T10:05:46  <CodeShark> doesn't sound good - are the android folks working on a patch?
 88 2015-10-07T10:06:52  <dcousens> CodeShark: haven't been in contact with them yet,  but I'm not sure what the dynamics/communication pathways are there yet.
 89 2015-10-07T10:21:47  <dcousens> CodeShark: any ideas on who you would contact for that?
 90 2015-10-07T10:22:10  <CodeShark> I wish I had some suggestions - unfortunately I don't know how to help
 91 2015-10-07T10:22:21  <dcousens> like,  if they could update those web views
 92 2015-10-07T10:22:27  <dcousens> Wouldn't they juts update the entire android anyway?
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 94 2015-10-07T10:23:47  <dcousens> I get the feeling the best bet is to just put out the notices to the major JS libs and maybe ping in a few more wallet devs
 95 2015-10-07T10:23:49  <CodeShark> that's what one would think...but I'm guessing there could be compatibility issues or lack of device support that might prevent people from updating the entire android. admittedly, I'm no android expert
 96 2015-10-07T10:24:21  <CodeShark> my android development experience consists of a handful of toy apps :p
 97 2015-10-07T10:24:35  <wumpus> yes, lack of device support for updates is very common, unfortunately
 98 2015-10-07T10:26:06  <dcousens> I'm just glad I deployed the bitcoin apps I work on with XWalk (compatibility, 20mb+ to your app size, but guarantees a consistent (and new) web view across all versions)
 99 2015-10-07T10:29:15  <wumpus> so that's why all those apps are so large nowadays :-) I have a very old, severly resource-challenged smartphone and every time there's application updates available, I need to remove at least one application to make room.
100 2015-10-07T10:29:51  <wumpus> at some point it's going to be unusable and I'm not actually sure I'm going to get a smartphone again
101 2015-10-07T10:31:15  <CodeShark> is there still another option? pay phones? :)
102 2015-10-07T10:31:31  <CodeShark> remember those things?
103 2015-10-07T10:31:32  <dcousens> CodeShark: rpi with a GSM module? haha
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105 2015-10-07T10:32:39  <wumpus> well there's still cheap 'dumbphones' available that can only call and text. At least when I checked a year ago or so. For old people, like me :-)
106 2015-10-07T10:34:19  <dcousens> wumpus: but are they actually 'dumb'? :P
107 2015-10-07T10:36:06  <wumpus> good point. So that leaves... someone have an old Nokia 3310 laying around... ? :P
108 2015-10-07T10:37:10  <CodeShark> I think I still have a Motorola StarTak somewhere
109 2015-10-07T10:37:12  <CodeShark> lol
110 2015-10-07T10:37:38  <CodeShark> s/StarTak/StarTAC
111 2015-10-07T10:37:50  <CodeShark> from like the mid 1990's
112 2015-10-07T10:37:51  <wumpus> heh
113 2015-10-07T10:39:02  <CodeShark> I remember when I got my first cell phone - a car phone - the transciever took up like half the trunk :p
114 2015-10-07T10:39:35  <dcousens> wumpus: whats the concern anyway, NSA paranoia? :P
115 2015-10-07T10:39:39  <wumpus> I had a similar one, maybe even the same
116 2015-10-07T10:39:45  <wumpus> CodeShark: awesome
117 2015-10-07T10:41:58  <wumpus> dcousens: not so much the NSA, but exploiting vulnerabilities isn't exactly only NSA territory, especially in old software given the lack of vendor support for keeping software up to date and secure
118 2015-10-07T10:44:30  <wumpus> the ecosystem is a mess. Would be great to have a phone that's more like a normal PC. I think that's what Nokia tried with N900, shame it didn't go very far.
119 2015-10-07T10:44:47  <CodeShark> built-in obsolescence is a feature of all modern appliances :)
120 2015-10-07T10:45:21  <wumpus> but not that fast
121 2015-10-07T10:45:51  <wumpus> anyhow, this has veered very far off topic, sorry for that
122 2015-10-07T10:46:22  <CodeShark> now to tie it back to some PR...
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129 2015-10-07T13:00:29  <GitHub95> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/49dd5c629df0...d479311dba25
130 2015-10-07T13:00:29  <GitHub95> bitcoin/master 1534d9a EthanHeilman: Creates unittests for addrman, makes addrman testable....
131 2015-10-07T13:00:30  <GitHub95> bitcoin/master d479311 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge pull request #6720...
132 2015-10-07T13:00:33  <GitHub68> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #6720: Creates unittests for addrman, makes addrman more testable. (master...unittest) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6720
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140 2015-10-07T14:22:39  <GitHub192> [bitcoin] CodeShark opened pull request #6774: ISM to softforks unit (master...ISM_to_softforks_unit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6774
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161 2015-10-07T17:15:24  <stonecoldpat> hi, is there any reason payment protocol files (i.e. paymentserver.cpp) is inside the /qt folder?
162 2015-10-07T17:15:46  <morcos> BlueMatt: you around?
163 2015-10-07T17:15:58  <morcos> there is definitely some mempool stressing going on now
164 2015-10-07T17:16:10  <stonecoldpat> (apart from the fact it is used by qt, the logic doesnt need to be there from what i can tell)
165 2015-10-07T17:16:30  <morcos> i started a new node running 6722 (with 50MB mempool) and within a few mins it was rejecting txs
166 2015-10-07T17:16:47  <morcos> I think it would be great to add some more debugging output to 6722
167 2015-10-07T17:17:03  <sipa> stonecoldpat: it relies on qt's ssl inplementatiin, unfortunately
168 2015-10-07T17:17:15  <sipa> s/inplementatiin/interface/
169 2015-10-07T17:18:34  <paveljanik> morcos, yup, https://bitcoinfees.github.io/#30m
170 2015-10-07T17:19:46  <morcos> interestingly this "attack" does not depend only on chains of transactions.  i've had a node up running my new low limits since yesterday and its up to 178M of mempool usage itself
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172 2015-10-07T17:25:47  <stonecoldpat> sipa: ah i see, thats quite annoying! thanks though :)
173 2015-10-07T17:33:02  <paveljanik> example tx: 895e6500146b67dc668eb73ce490cdf6c49ad2a5682a599b8f12fa97952f2400
174 2015-10-07T17:39:36  <Luke-Jr> hmm
175 2015-10-07T17:39:55  <Luke-Jr> so to bring BIP70 to bitcoind probably means replacing that with libcurl or smth
176 2015-10-07T17:40:06  <Luke-Jr> or maybe it could just use QtNetwork as an optional dep
177 2015-10-07T17:42:52  <paveljanik> 100inputs, 1 output, fee 15000
178 2015-10-07T17:43:21  <wumpus> Luke-Jr: evhttp would work just as well - but I don't think moving it to bitcoind would make a lot of sense, at least the fetching part. Parsing/processing of payment messages might.
179 2015-10-07T17:43:32  <stonecoldpat> Luke-Jr: I dont know if it has QtNetwork (if its related to the Q classes), for example QByteArray is used for the payment data structure, but that isn't accessible without core
180 2015-10-07T17:44:00  <stonecoldpat> s/core/qt
181 2015-10-07T17:44:14  <stonecoldpat> wumpus: thats what i was hoping to do, verify payment messages using bitcoind
182 2015-10-07T17:44:18  <wumpus> then again, I think it'd be better to make a BIP70 handling library that is completely independent of bitcoind
183 2015-10-07T17:45:04  <Luke-Jr> wumpus: probably
184 2015-10-07T17:45:12  <Luke-Jr> BIP70 adoption is not going fast enough IMO
185 2015-10-07T17:45:15  <wumpus> that would have been better, it could be done pretty much independent of any specific wallet / frontend implementation
186 2015-10-07T17:45:28  <wumpus> and also include functionality to make payment protocol messages
187 2015-10-07T17:48:11  <wumpus> an example could interface to bitcoind and handle BIP70 either as client as server - as long as it is clear that it is a layer on top
188 2015-10-07T17:49:36  <kanzure> what is the measure of bip70 adoption?
189 2015-10-07T17:49:38  <stonecoldpat> wumpus: ah you mean like another module, but it interacts with bitcoind to do the signing? (so builds payment message, and then calls rpc of bicoind to create and sign transaction?)
190 2015-10-07T17:49:52  <stonecoldpat> at the moment, its supported by bitpay and coinbase, so 100k+ merchants should be using it
191 2015-10-07T17:50:10  <wumpus> stonecoldpat: yes
192 2015-10-07T17:50:38  <randy-waterhouse> "should be"
193 2015-10-07T17:51:53  <Luke-Jr> it's very hard for non-merchants to use, though
194 2015-10-07T17:51:57  <kanzure> sounds like coinbase/bitpay might have internal metrics around adoption, but other than that we don't know? just curious what Luke-Jr is estimating from because would be useful.
195 2015-10-07T17:52:41  <Luke-Jr> kanzure: also, most wallets besides Core don't support sending to it
196 2015-10-07T17:53:32  <sipa> afaik, nearly no wallets support creating payment requesrts...
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198 2015-10-07T17:54:16  <stonecoldpat> Luke-Jr: I wouldn't say thats entirely true, core, bitcoinj, breadwallet, hive, electrum support sending payments to a payment request, but as sipa said there is no wallet that supports creating a request
199 2015-10-07T17:54:24  <kanzure> wallet/implementation adoption is much easier to measure than user usage. so i'll give you that.
200 2015-10-07T17:54:36  <Luke-Jr> stonecoldpat: oh? didn't know Electrum did for example
201 2015-10-07T17:55:14  <stonecoldpat> Luke-Jr: they seem to have code in their github for it (ive never used electrum)
202 2015-10-07T17:56:47  <stonecoldpat> Luke-Jr: actually, for electrum it may only be for creating a payment request, sorry for that.
203 2015-10-07T17:58:59  <stonecoldpat> wumpus: if it would help, I can look into making a module for bip70 that interfaces with bitcoind
204 2015-10-07T17:59:34  <Luke-Jr> stonecoldpat: as wumpus said, an external library would probably be best ;)
205 2015-10-07T17:59:50  <wumpus> stonecoldpat: well I would write it generally, as a library; then one of the examples could be interfacing with bitcoind
206 2015-10-07T18:02:28  <wumpus> stonecoldpat: I think binding it to bitcoind specifically reduces the usefulness, people may want to use other wallets, or even without a wallet (just a database of addresses, of which one is dealt out for every now payment)
207 2015-10-07T18:07:28  <stonecoldpat> wumpus: ah okay, yes that makes sense. i'll have a look into getting a library made then. This is actually better than what I planned to do, now i don't have to worry about messing with core code which should be easier. :)
208 2015-10-07T18:09:55  <wumpus> stonecoldpat: :)
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223 2015-10-07T21:41:07  <GitHub83> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #6776: Support -checkmempool=N, which runs checks once every N transactions (master...fraccheck) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6776
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233 2015-10-07T23:24:15  <dcousens> wumpus: short of something more formal, https://github.com/feross/buffer/pull/81#issuecomment-146362284 should be OK for now
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235 2015-10-07T23:24:52  <dcousens> If you know any JS wallet devs that aren't in that post,  feel free to PM me and I'll tag (or tag them yourself)
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