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 202016-01-16T02:53:43  <GitHub123> [bitcoin] CodeCloudMe opened pull request #7356: readme updated for classic (master...smallthings) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7356
 212016-01-16T02:54:44  <gmaxwell> lol
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 512016-01-16T05:39:08  <jabd> i'm just getting into bitcoin now... where is the canoncial source? I'm getting a bit confused with all of the fork discussions from the past couple of weeks... maybe another way I should put this is - who is canonical upstream? Is github official, should I only pull from https://bitcoin.org/en/download or bitcoinclassic.com?
 522016-01-16T05:40:00  <jabd> also, where can I get the latest info for where everyone is headed e.g XT vs 2mb etc
 532016-01-16T05:41:02  <Luke-Jr> jabd: Bitcoin has no canonical/official anything.
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 562016-01-16T05:42:00  <Luke-Jr> jabd: http://bitcoincore.org for stuff by the Core dev team, including scaling plans for Bitcoin
 572016-01-16T05:45:40  <jabd> ok thanks
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 592016-01-16T06:04:04  <jabd> Luke-Jr: on bitcoin.org, I can see lots of mentions of "Bitcoin Core", but I can't see anywhere it links to bitcoincore.org?
 602016-01-16T06:04:45  <Luke-Jr> jabd: bitcoin.org is neither official for Bitcoin *nor* for Bitcoin Core
 612016-01-16T06:04:51  <p15> those are created by separate people / entities
 622016-01-16T06:05:06  <p15> bitcoin.org has more info on wallets etc
 632016-01-16T06:07:52  <jabd> so when if people are running Bitcoin code from different places, are they possibly running on the same blockchain or different blockchains? Is there an "official" Bitcoin blockchain, or are these "forks" all running on their own networks? So confused
 642016-01-16T06:08:04  <jabd> How's best to educate myself on this more?
 652016-01-16T06:13:49  <p15> ask in #bitcoin maybe
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 762016-01-16T08:42:32  <btcdrak> sort of OT question, sorry, but how many devs here use Macbooks for their coding work?
 772016-01-16T08:44:05  <gmaxwell> what what OS?
 782016-01-16T08:44:17  <gmaxwell> e.g. bluematt has a macbook but it runs linux.
 792016-01-16T08:51:29  <GitHub164> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7356: readme updated for classic (master...smallthings) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7356
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 852016-01-16T09:39:30  <wumpus> I use only linux and *bsd
 862016-01-16T09:40:56  <wumpus> linux mostly debian and ubuntu
 872016-01-16T09:43:59  <wumpus> interesting, looks like github upgraded their openssh (probably to 7.0), at least it no longer accepts dsa keys
 882016-01-16T09:46:44  <wumpus> about time I suppose
 892016-01-16T09:47:44  <wumpus> btcdrak: I'm fairly sure jonasschnelli uses macosx for coding work
 902016-01-16T09:50:21  <GitHub123> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e1060c56cca7...fd9356ba4eb5
 912016-01-16T09:50:21  <GitHub123> bitcoin/master c0cf48d Cory Fields: c++11: add scoped enum fallbacks to CPPFLAGS rather than defining them locally...
 922016-01-16T09:50:22  <GitHub123> bitcoin/master fd9356b Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge pull request #7322...
 932016-01-16T09:50:29  <GitHub6> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7322: c++11: add scoped enum fallbacks to CPPFLAGS rather than defining them locally (master...c++11-prep) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7322
 942016-01-16T09:55:02  <GitHub28> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7268: Formatting/gramattical fixes in fees.h (master...fix-typos-fees) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7268
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 982016-01-16T10:06:24  <GitHub94> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/fbea2f64e234...d7c54c5a9db6
 992016-01-16T10:06:24  <GitHub94> bitcoin/0.12 82667af Alex Morcos: release note fixups
1002016-01-16T10:06:24  <GitHub143> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7336: release note fixups (0.12...rnfixes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7336
1012016-01-16T10:06:25  <GitHub94> bitcoin/0.12 d7c54c5 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge pull request #7336...
1022016-01-16T10:06:34  <fanquake> Building sigs for 0.12.0rc1
1032016-01-16T10:07:12  <wumpus> thanks fanquake - we still need another signee (at least for win-signed and osx-signed) before uploading executables
1042016-01-16T10:07:53  <wumpus> mind that you need the descriptors from fbea2f6 (in 0.12 branch) to build the -signed and attach the signatures
1052016-01-16T10:09:35  <fanquake> Ok. So you have to apply a commit manually to to be able to build?
1062016-01-16T10:10:36  <wumpus> nope. Just check out that commit
1072016-01-16T10:10:52  <wumpus> (in the repository directory that you use to refer to for the descriptors)
1082016-01-16T10:11:21  <wumpus> normally you'd check out 0.12.0rc1, but then the signature attachment will error that it misses a package
1092016-01-16T10:11:53  <wumpus> checking out v0.12.0rc1 still works fine for *building* everything, just not the -signer.ymls
1102016-01-16T10:12:09  <fanquake> Right, no worries. I'll keep that in mind once I get there. Cheers.
1112016-01-16T10:12:17  <wumpus> this is a temporary trick and will no longer be needed for rc2
1122016-01-16T10:17:34  <fanquake> Yep. Fine for the early rc stage.
1132016-01-16T10:37:36  <GitHub36> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #6312: BIP-68: Mempool-only sequence number constraint verification (master...sequencenumbers) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6312
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1572016-01-16T17:18:50  <michagogo> hi, working on sigs
1582016-01-16T17:19:15  <michagogo> the OS X build failed, I think -- didn't have time to check friday afternoon
1592016-01-16T17:24:11  <michagogo> great, now VM isn't booting...
1602016-01-16T17:24:21  <michagogo> *removes "quiet splash*
1612016-01-16T17:24:25  <michagogo> "**
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1642016-01-16T18:06:59  <michagogo> cfields: around?
1652016-01-16T18:07:11  <cfields> michagogo: yes
1662016-01-16T18:07:11  <michagogo> Something's very wrong with my OS X build
1672016-01-16T18:07:16  <cfields> ?
1682016-01-16T18:07:19  <michagogo> pastebiniting it now
1692016-01-16T18:08:06  * michagogo wonders what's taking so long
1702016-01-16T18:08:13  <michagogo> aaand it failed
1712016-01-16T18:08:18  <michagogo> One sec
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1742016-01-16T18:10:07  <michagogo> cfields: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3cqeac2n4utqudo/build.log?dl=0
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1772016-01-16T18:11:10  <michagogo> (also, can I salvage the deps so I don't have to rebuild Qt?)
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1802016-01-16T18:11:52  <paveljanik> michagogo, /usr/bin/env: python: No such file or directory
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1822016-01-16T18:12:33  <michagogo> paveljanik: there's a lot more weirdness
1832016-01-16T18:12:38  <michagogo> like, what's with all the nulls?
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1852016-01-16T18:13:01  <michagogo> Seems like a big chunk of file is just missing
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1872016-01-16T18:13:51  <michagogo> Er, okay, looks like a lot of files are missing in the qt build too.
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1892016-01-16T18:13:58  <michagogo> I guess I can't salvage the deps
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1942016-01-16T18:19:06  <michagogo> cfields: should I save anything for inspection, or can I start the build again?
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1962016-01-16T18:20:33  <cfields> michagogo: did you by any chance build 0.12 with gitian before the bump to trusty?
1972016-01-16T18:20:49  <michagogo> cfields: what do you mean?
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1992016-01-16T18:21:10  <cfields> did you do a gitian build of 0.12 a few months ago?
2002016-01-16T18:21:16  <michagogo> I don't think I've built anything other than tags since 0.11.x
2012016-01-16T18:21:17  <michagogo> no
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2032016-01-16T18:21:26  <michagogo> Why do you ask?
2042016-01-16T18:21:44  <cfields> because that could've messed up your deps
2052016-01-16T18:21:47  <cfields> (did mine)
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2072016-01-16T18:21:52  <michagogo> Hm, interesting
2082016-01-16T18:22:05  <michagogo> I mean, it seems it was building deps anyway
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2102016-01-16T18:22:22  <michagogo> And also, it did already build windows and linux right before the failure
2112016-01-16T18:22:40  <michagogo> But since it was already rebuilding, I guess it can't hurt to nuke the 0.12 cache
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2132016-01-16T18:23:01  <michagogo> Wait, no
2142016-01-16T18:23:06  <michagogo> nvm
2152016-01-16T18:23:25  <michagogo> micha@Trusty-64-VM:~/build/gitian-builder$ ls cache/bitcoin-osx-0.12/
2162016-01-16T18:23:26  <michagogo> micha@Trusty-64-VM:~/build/gitian-builder$
2172016-01-16T18:23:36  <michagogo> So the answer is definitely no
2182016-01-16T18:23:56  <cfields> ok
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2222016-01-16T18:26:21  <michagogo> cfields: if you want, you can watch as I retry
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2252016-01-16T18:27:24  <michagogo> ssh ro-thYmcEyGTTIm0RPJm3h2bJmCp@am2.tmate.io to see the build script, and ssh ro-me6PDf23hOTHOloQFCzphFCPj@fk2.tmate.io to see a tailf of the install/build logs
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2272016-01-16T18:28:41  <cfields> michagogo: i'm hacking on a few things atm, but ping me when it's done :)
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2292016-01-16T18:29:14  <michagogo> cfields: Okay, I'm not sure I'll still be awake when that happens, but I'll ping you if I see it
2302016-01-16T18:29:29  <michagogo> The tmates should stay up, though
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2332016-01-16T18:35:06  <michagogo> cfields: so if all goes well, you should see a PR from me with the gitian sigs
2342016-01-16T18:35:17  <cfields> michagogo: great, thanks
2352016-01-16T18:35:24  <michagogo> If it fails again, those tmate sessions will let you see what's happening
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2392016-01-16T18:37:12  <michagogo> If that happens hopefully I'll be able to work on it via teamviewer from the bus
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2502016-01-16T18:46:17  <michagogo> cfields: it's breaking again
2512016-01-16T18:46:29  <michagogo> Again during the Qt build, something about files not being found
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2532016-01-16T18:48:43  <michagogo> No, never mind
2542016-01-16T18:48:53  <michagogo> Looks like those were errors while it was detecting what's available
2552016-01-16T18:48:59  <michagogo> sorry about the false alarm
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2752016-01-16T19:26:08  <michagogo> cfields: it died again
2762016-01-16T19:26:18  <michagogo> For real this time
2772016-01-16T19:30:15  <michagogo> cfields: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9jqnexeyvb0u1g6/build2.log?dl=0
2782016-01-16T19:31:52  <michagogo> cfields: looks like the same bizarre log, too
2792016-01-16T19:32:57  <michagogo> File not starting at the beginning even though I know it started properly from the tailf, and a ton of nulls
2802016-01-16T19:33:15  <michagogo> Ending at "creating qmake"
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2922016-01-16T20:51:38  <wangchun> Lightsword: this channel ok?
2932016-01-16T20:53:11  <Lightsword> sure
2942016-01-16T20:54:46  <Lightsword> the issue with headers only mining is that poor propagation creates accidental selfish mining attacks
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2972016-01-16T21:10:43  <Luke-Jr> what? no, it's because you make invalid blocks O.o
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3012016-01-16T21:18:59  <instagibbs> i think it amplifies selfish mining once fees become larger fraction of reward
3022016-01-16T21:19:54  <Lightsword> Luke-Jr, it’s antpool’s fault mainly they have really bad propagation on one of their nodes
3032016-01-16T21:20:04  <Lightsword> Block 393554 in particular
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3082016-01-16T22:06:25  <michagogo> Luke-Jr: I don't suppose you have any idea what might be causing my OS X gitian build to fail catastrophically?
3092016-01-16T22:06:54  <michagogo> The really weird thing is that somehow the build.log is breaking retroactively.
3102016-01-16T22:08:54  <michagogo> Tailf-ing it, I see the depends building normally. I walk away while it's doing Qt, and then come back to find it failed, and then when I check the log file again it's a few weird lines, then a ton of null bytes, and then the log resumes at "creating qmake"...
3112016-01-16T22:14:35  <Luke-Jr> michagogo: try less to view it maybe?
3122016-01-16T22:14:43  <Luke-Jr> Shift-F in less acts as tail
3132016-01-16T22:15:11  <michagogo> Luke-Jr: when I lessed it I got the "may be binary" warning
3142016-01-16T22:15:22  <michagogo> And then when I said yes, it was what I just described
3152016-01-16T22:16:12  <michagogo> A couple lines that were definitely not what should have been the beginning of the log, a whole lot of ^@, and then "creating qmake"
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