12016-02-08T00:00:58 <phantomcircuit> instagibbs, that's to do with the flushing interval of the wallet
22016-02-08T00:01:11 <phantomcircuit> but i thought that was set to something ludicrously fast already
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122016-02-08T01:03:41 <GitHub14> [bitcoin] sipa closed pull request #7478: Bitcoin S+ (master...0.12) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7478
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262016-02-08T04:21:38 <instagibbs> phantomcircuit, could it be due to my laptop having some sucky io issues
272016-02-08T04:22:23 <instagibbs> Core tends to make my machine freeze up more than just about anything else I run
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332016-02-08T05:27:29 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: can you ask support@github.com to relink bitcoin/bips to the same network as genjix/bips?
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462016-02-08T08:19:09 <wumpus> Luke-Jr: don't know, I'm not sure why it got unliked from petertodd's repo
472016-02-08T08:19:16 <wumpus> unlinked*
482016-02-08T08:19:39 <wumpus> instagibbs: have you tried assigning a lower number of cores? (-par=)?
492016-02-08T08:20:11 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: most likely due to my inquiry last month, but they only accept an admin request to re-attach it :/
502016-02-08T08:23:28 <wumpus> you asked them to detach it?
512016-02-08T08:26:01 <Luke-Jr> no, I inquired about #<n> references hitting upstream repos; I *thought* they said it should just work without changes..
522016-02-08T08:26:15 <Luke-Jr> but that was approximately the same time as the detaching occurred
532016-02-08T08:27:07 <wumpus> so they likely made a mistake. Ok, I'll send a mail
542016-02-08T08:30:02 <Luke-Jr> best I can tell, yes. but as a non-admin they don't seem to want to be clear on it in their replies to me.
552016-02-08T08:34:24 <wumpus> https://github.com/petertodd/bips is now seen as a fork of bitcoin/bips
562016-02-08T08:34:46 <wumpus> so apparently it is still the same network, but they changed the parent
572016-02-08T08:35:42 <Luke-Jr> it's genjix/bips (and its forks) that's cut-off
582016-02-08T08:35:52 <Luke-Jr> petertodd/bips was originally a fork of genjix/bips (the origin)
592016-02-08T08:35:59 <wumpus> hmm
602016-02-08T08:36:05 <Luke-Jr> my repo is also a fork of genjix/bips, so with the current situation I cannot open PRs
612016-02-08T08:36:28 <wumpus> yes, I get it, they cut off a part of the tree and made bitcoin/bips the parent of that
622016-02-08T08:36:47 <wumpus> so if I ask them to attach it to genjix/bips it should be ok again?
632016-02-08T08:37:09 <Luke-Jr> If petertodd/bips is parented to bitcoin/bips now, I think attaching bitcoin/bips to genjix/bips will work
642016-02-08T08:37:27 <Luke-Jr> putting it back to how it was before might need petertodd to be making the request
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662016-02-08T08:39:22 <wumpus> but that might mean that #<n> references again hit upstream repos
672016-02-08T08:39:46 <Luke-Jr> was this ever an actual problem for bips?
682016-02-08T08:40:07 <wumpus> I don't know. You reported it to them?
692016-02-08T08:40:29 <Luke-Jr> it came up as a supposed problem on IRC, but I never confirmed it
702016-02-08T08:40:46 <Luke-Jr> the response I got was that as long as the # existed in the repo it was being mentioned on, it shouldn't go across repos
712016-02-08T08:42:10 <wumpus> ok... well I sent a request to reconnect it, we'll see what they come back with
722016-02-08T08:42:42 <Luke-Jr> thanks
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752016-02-08T09:07:00 <petertodd> Luke-Jr: you can probably reconnect your repo to bitcoin/bips instead
762016-02-08T09:07:14 <Luke-Jr> petertodd: that won't help everyone else branched off genjix
772016-02-08T09:07:31 <petertodd> Luke-Jr: how many people are branched off genjix? can't be all that many
782016-02-08T09:07:49 <wumpus> good point
792016-02-08T09:08:02 <Luke-Jr> https://github.com/genjix/bips says 6 now. (it said a lot more a week ago..)
802016-02-08T09:08:15 <wumpus> in a way having bitcoin/bips at the root is advantageous
812016-02-08T09:08:24 <petertodd> wumpus: agreed, much more clear
822016-02-08T09:08:41 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: ok, so email them nevermind and I'll just recreate mine or something
832016-02-08T09:08:43 <petertodd> wumpus: I kept on getting pull-reqs meant for bitcoin/bips myself
842016-02-08T09:08:49 <Luke-Jr> 5 others is no big deal
852016-02-08T09:08:51 <petertodd> Luke-Jr: yeah, recreating works
862016-02-08T09:11:13 <wumpus> ok, cancelled
872016-02-08T09:11:47 <wumpus> hopefully rc3 can be -final this week
882016-02-08T09:11:59 <petertodd> +1
892016-02-08T09:12:00 <Luke-Jr> hopefully my release notes PR can be merged first <.<
902016-02-08T09:16:58 <wumpus> I'm not really happy about this state of affairs re: priority in mining policy. It's clearly something that reasonable people can disagree on
912016-02-08T09:20:03 <wumpus> I'd prefer to just keep it as a setting, but I understand it complicates the mempool code. On the other hand, removing some policy just because it streamlines the code is not really a good argument in itself.
922016-02-08T09:23:02 <petertodd> wumpus: though if the policy is rarely used...
932016-02-08T09:32:11 <wumpus> but who knows? luke-jr is against the change, and its very possible that he's not the only one
942016-02-08T09:32:56 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: the mempool code can ignore priority without removing it from mining
952016-02-08T09:34:11 <wumpus> right
962016-02-08T09:34:35 <Luke-Jr> the result of this is that gratis transactions fail under high load/spam conditions, but priority transactions that pay a sufficient relay fee still get mined
972016-02-08T09:35:45 <Luke-Jr> (speaking of gratis transactions, I was under the impression we were removing support for them from the wallet in 0.12, but it apparently still supports them? or is that a bug/oversight?)
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1002016-02-08T09:38:26 <wumpus> that may be a bug/oversight yes...
1012016-02-08T09:38:43 <petertodd> do we have stats yet on how often we're under gratis-relaying conditions anyway? I run my nodes with 50MB mempool limits, and they're non-gratis basically 100% of the time
1022016-02-08T09:39:25 <Luke-Jr> petertodd: how could we? most nodes are pre-0.12, which has no such limits
1032016-02-08T09:40:03 <petertodd> Luke-Jr: sure, but I mean has anyone with a v0.12 node with default settings been keeping track of this?
1042016-02-08T09:42:34 <Luke-Jr> I would imagine until the block size nonsense is over, we wouldn't likely see gratis conditions
1052016-02-08T09:43:28 <petertodd> as in, you think we're seeing spam attacks to push the average usage up?
1062016-02-08T09:43:29 <Luke-Jr> gotta make Bitcoin look backlogged, after all <.<
1072016-02-08T09:43:34 <Luke-Jr> petertodd: clearly
1082016-02-08T09:43:50 <Luke-Jr> petertodd: actual volume is like 400k/block avg, and yet the block sizes are way higher :/
1092016-02-08T09:44:05 <petertodd> could definitely be true, especially with how actual day-to-day usage isn't impacted at all - tx fees are still really low
1102016-02-08T09:45:11 <Luke-Jr> this is why I think Classic has more like 10% economic support instead of 5% :p
1112016-02-08T09:45:13 <GitHub16> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e7ea5db0c190...326f010332a6
1122016-02-08T09:45:14 <GitHub16> bitcoin/master fa616c2 MarcoFalke: [doc] Update release-process.md
1132016-02-08T09:45:14 <GitHub16> bitcoin/master 326f010 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7465: [doc] Update release-process.md...
1142016-02-08T09:45:23 <GitHub59> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7465: [doc] Update release-process.md (master...Mf1601-releaseProc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7465
1152016-02-08T09:46:11 <petertodd> Luke-Jr: speaking of, I'd like to get some clarify from the classic types on when they'd do another blocksize increase - what's the criteria exactly?
1162016-02-08T09:46:24 <petertodd> in particular, how much money do I have to spend on fees to force the issue prematurely...
1172016-02-08T09:46:39 <Luke-Jr> heh
1182016-02-08T09:47:37 <petertodd> it's also notable how jgarzik has been promoting non-bitcoin fintech uses of the blockchain for bitfury - demand for those is potentially basically infinite
1192016-02-08T09:47:43 <GitHub25> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/b9ed8c996912aed9031caf0e3e6e32530ae6187a
1202016-02-08T09:47:44 <GitHub25> bitcoin/0.12 b9ed8c9 MarcoFalke: [doc] Update release-process.md...
1212016-02-08T09:48:55 <Luke-Jr> wumpus: any interest in moving icon rendering to `make distdir` stage? I have working code :p cons: requires rsvg & imagemagick to build from git
1222016-02-08T09:49:27 <wumpus> rather not require any graphical tools for building/deploying bitcoin
1232016-02-08T09:49:38 <wumpus> just make it a developer script that people can run when they actually touch the icons
1242016-02-08T09:50:42 <Luke-Jr> (building from tarball unaffected)
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1262016-02-08T09:51:48 <wumpus> icon updates are rare enough to warrant running a special script when they happen
1272016-02-08T09:52:23 <wumpus> this also allows QA on the produced images, e.g. what if someone has a crappy version of svg, it'd basically include rsvg and imagemagick into the deterministic base
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1292016-02-08T09:54:28 <Luke-Jr> I suppose. Unfortunately, it's also rare enough that it's probably not worth doing for that purpose alone. The value to me is for a different Knots icon without a binary patch file.
1302016-02-08T09:55:54 <wumpus> to be even more heretical: can't qt render svg images directly?
1312016-02-08T09:56:37 <wumpus> (probably means an even worse situation of having rsvg, which is notoriously leaky and buggy, as a dependency of bitcoin-qt, but OK)
1322016-02-08T09:56:53 <Luke-Jr> Qt's SVG rendering can't handle the shadows
1332016-02-08T09:57:05 <Luke-Jr> and requires a plugin
1342016-02-08T09:58:09 <wumpus> right
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1702016-02-08T15:51:25 <GitHub105> [bitcoin] instagibbs opened pull request #7480: Changed getnetworkhps value to double to avoid overflow. (master...hashps) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7480
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2212016-02-08T21:03:16 <GitHub193> [bitcoin] sdaftuar opened pull request #7482: [P2P] Ensure headers count is correct (master...fix-download-timeouts) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7482
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2282016-02-08T21:37:24 <GitHub118> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
2292016-02-08T21:37:27 <GitHub57> [bitcoin] luke-jr closed pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
2302016-02-08T21:40:52 <GitHub88> [bitcoin] luke-jr reopened pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
2312016-02-08T21:40:57 <GitHub97> [bitcoin] luke-jr closed pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
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2332016-02-08T21:57:43 <GitHub100> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #7485: Use system univalue by default (master...sys_univalue_def) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7485
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2382016-02-08T22:24:05 <GitHub59> [bitcoin] luke-jr reopened pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
2392016-02-08T22:35:21 <Luke-Jr> cfields: Fetching qrencode⦠ERROR: no certificate subject alternative name matches requested host name `fukuchi.org'.
2402016-02-08T22:35:23 <Luke-Jr> on Travis..
2412016-02-08T22:36:04 <wumpus> that happens on 0.10 too; for some reason it doesn't even try the fallback after that
2422016-02-08T22:41:39 * Luke-Jr ponders if updating ca-certificates is sufficient
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2532016-02-08T23:26:06 <fkhan> Luke-Jr using --no-check-certificate or building wget from source (1.17) can alleviate that
2542016-02-08T23:26:52 <Luke-Jr> I'm not sure why we're using https at all, considering we check the file hash
2552016-02-08T23:26:56 <fkhan> the dbus http mirror has a 301 to the wrong url, also
2562016-02-08T23:27:33 <fkhan> well, i thought the freedesktop ssl error was related to the fukuchi.org one, but totally separate (and was thinkign the same when i saw that last week :))
2572016-02-08T23:29:18 <fkhan> so, in dbus' case, it actually works better when using https
2582016-02-08T23:29:34 <fkhan> (until they change the redirect that is)
2592016-02-08T23:31:06 <fkhan> whoops, nvm, its fine now
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2612016-02-08T23:42:53 <midnightmagic> Luke-Jr: protocol munging by malicious upstream ISP maybe?
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