1 2016-02-08T00:00:58  <phantomcircuit> instagibbs, that's to do with the flushing interval of the wallet
  2 2016-02-08T00:01:11  <phantomcircuit> but i thought that was set to something ludicrously fast already
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 12 2016-02-08T01:03:41  <GitHub14> [bitcoin] sipa closed pull request #7478: Bitcoin S+ (master...0.12) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7478
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 26 2016-02-08T04:21:38  <instagibbs> phantomcircuit, could it be due to my laptop having some sucky io issues
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 33 2016-02-08T05:27:29  <Luke-Jr> wumpus: can you ask support@github.com to relink bitcoin/bips to the same network as genjix/bips?
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 46 2016-02-08T08:19:09  <wumpus> Luke-Jr: don't know, I'm not sure why it got unliked from petertodd's repo
 47 2016-02-08T08:19:16  <wumpus> unlinked*
 48 2016-02-08T08:19:39  <wumpus> instagibbs: have you tried assigning a lower number of cores? (-par=)?
 49 2016-02-08T08:20:11  <Luke-Jr> wumpus: most likely due to my inquiry last month, but they only accept an admin request to re-attach it :/
 50 2016-02-08T08:23:28  <wumpus> you asked them to detach it?
 51 2016-02-08T08:26:01  <Luke-Jr> no, I inquired about #<n> references hitting upstream repos; I *thought* they said it should just work without changes..
 52 2016-02-08T08:26:15  <Luke-Jr> but that was approximately the same time as the detaching occurred
 53 2016-02-08T08:27:07  <wumpus> so they likely made a mistake. Ok, I'll send a mail
 54 2016-02-08T08:30:02  <Luke-Jr> best I can tell, yes. but as a non-admin they don't seem to want to be clear on it in their replies to me.
 55 2016-02-08T08:34:24  <wumpus> https://github.com/petertodd/bips  is now seen as a fork of bitcoin/bips
 56 2016-02-08T08:34:46  <wumpus> so apparently it is still the same network, but they changed the parent
 57 2016-02-08T08:35:42  <Luke-Jr> it's genjix/bips (and its forks) that's cut-off
 58 2016-02-08T08:35:52  <Luke-Jr> petertodd/bips was originally a fork of genjix/bips (the origin)
 59 2016-02-08T08:35:59  <wumpus> hmm
 60 2016-02-08T08:36:05  <Luke-Jr> my repo is also a fork of genjix/bips, so with the current situation I cannot open PRs
 61 2016-02-08T08:36:28  <wumpus> yes, I get it, they cut off a part of the tree and made bitcoin/bips the parent of that
 62 2016-02-08T08:36:47  <wumpus> so if I ask them to attach it to genjix/bips it should be ok again?
 63 2016-02-08T08:37:09  <Luke-Jr> If petertodd/bips is parented to bitcoin/bips now, I think attaching bitcoin/bips to genjix/bips will work
 64 2016-02-08T08:37:27  <Luke-Jr> putting it back to how it was before might need petertodd to be making the request
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 66 2016-02-08T08:39:22  <wumpus> but that might mean that #<n> references again hit upstream repos
 67 2016-02-08T08:39:46  <Luke-Jr> was this ever an actual problem for bips?
 68 2016-02-08T08:40:07  <wumpus> I don't know. You reported it to them?
 69 2016-02-08T08:40:29  <Luke-Jr> it came up as a supposed problem on IRC, but I never confirmed it
 70 2016-02-08T08:40:46  <Luke-Jr> the response I got was that as long as the # existed in the repo it was being mentioned on, it shouldn't go across repos
 71 2016-02-08T08:42:10  <wumpus> ok... well I sent a request to reconnect it, we'll see what they come back with
 72 2016-02-08T08:42:42  <Luke-Jr> thanks
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 75 2016-02-08T09:07:00  <petertodd> Luke-Jr: you can probably reconnect your repo to bitcoin/bips instead
 76 2016-02-08T09:07:14  <Luke-Jr> petertodd: that won't help everyone else branched off genjix
 77 2016-02-08T09:07:31  <petertodd> Luke-Jr: how many people are branched off genjix? can't be all that many
 78 2016-02-08T09:07:49  <wumpus> good point
 79 2016-02-08T09:08:02  <Luke-Jr> https://github.com/genjix/bips says 6 now. (it said a lot more a week ago..)
 80 2016-02-08T09:08:15  <wumpus> in a way having bitcoin/bips at the root is advantageous
 81 2016-02-08T09:08:24  <petertodd> wumpus: agreed, much more clear
 82 2016-02-08T09:08:41  <Luke-Jr> wumpus: ok, so email them nevermind and I'll just recreate mine or something
 83 2016-02-08T09:08:43  <petertodd> wumpus: I kept on getting pull-reqs meant for bitcoin/bips myself
 84 2016-02-08T09:08:49  <Luke-Jr> 5 others is no big deal
 85 2016-02-08T09:08:51  <petertodd> Luke-Jr: yeah, recreating works
 86 2016-02-08T09:11:13  <wumpus> ok, cancelled
 87 2016-02-08T09:11:47  <wumpus> hopefully rc3 can be -final this week
 88 2016-02-08T09:11:59  <petertodd> +1
 89 2016-02-08T09:12:00  <Luke-Jr> hopefully my release notes PR can be merged first <.<
 90 2016-02-08T09:16:58  <wumpus> I'm not really happy about this state of affairs re: priority in mining policy. It's clearly something that reasonable people can disagree on
 91 2016-02-08T09:20:03  <wumpus> I'd prefer to just keep it as a setting, but I understand it complicates the mempool code. On the other hand, removing some policy just because it streamlines the code is not really a good argument in itself.
 92 2016-02-08T09:23:02  <petertodd> wumpus: though if the policy is rarely used...
 93 2016-02-08T09:32:11  <wumpus> but who knows? luke-jr is against the change, and its very possible that he's not the only one
 94 2016-02-08T09:32:56  <Luke-Jr> wumpus: the mempool code can ignore priority without removing it from mining
 95 2016-02-08T09:34:11  <wumpus> right
 96 2016-02-08T09:34:35  <Luke-Jr> the result of this is that gratis transactions fail under high load/spam conditions, but priority transactions that pay a sufficient relay fee still get mined
 97 2016-02-08T09:35:45  <Luke-Jr> (speaking of gratis transactions, I was under the impression we were removing support for them from the wallet in 0.12, but it apparently still supports them? or is that a bug/oversight?)
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100 2016-02-08T09:38:26  <wumpus> that may be a bug/oversight yes...
101 2016-02-08T09:38:43  <petertodd> do we have stats yet on how often we're under gratis-relaying conditions anyway? I run my nodes with 50MB mempool limits, and they're non-gratis basically 100% of the time
102 2016-02-08T09:39:25  <Luke-Jr> petertodd: how could we? most nodes are pre-0.12, which has no such limits
103 2016-02-08T09:40:03  <petertodd> Luke-Jr: sure, but I mean has anyone with a v0.12 node with default settings been keeping track of this?
104 2016-02-08T09:42:34  <Luke-Jr> I would imagine until the block size nonsense is over, we wouldn't likely see gratis conditions
105 2016-02-08T09:43:28  <petertodd> as in, you think we're seeing spam attacks to push the average usage up?
106 2016-02-08T09:43:29  <Luke-Jr> gotta make Bitcoin look backlogged, after all <.<
107 2016-02-08T09:43:34  <Luke-Jr> petertodd: clearly
108 2016-02-08T09:43:50  <Luke-Jr> petertodd: actual volume is like 400k/block avg, and yet the block sizes are way higher :/
109 2016-02-08T09:44:05  <petertodd> could definitely be true, especially with how actual day-to-day usage isn't impacted at all - tx fees are still really low
110 2016-02-08T09:45:11  <Luke-Jr> this is why I think Classic has more like 10% economic support instead of 5% :p
111 2016-02-08T09:45:13  <GitHub16> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e7ea5db0c190...326f010332a6
112 2016-02-08T09:45:14  <GitHub16> bitcoin/master fa616c2 MarcoFalke: [doc] Update release-process.md
113 2016-02-08T09:45:14  <GitHub16> bitcoin/master 326f010 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7465: [doc] Update release-process.md...
114 2016-02-08T09:45:23  <GitHub59> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7465: [doc] Update release-process.md (master...Mf1601-releaseProc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7465
115 2016-02-08T09:46:11  <petertodd> Luke-Jr: speaking of, I'd like to get some clarify from the classic types on when they'd do another blocksize increase - what's the criteria exactly?
116 2016-02-08T09:46:24  <petertodd> in particular, how much money do I have to spend on fees to force the issue prematurely...
117 2016-02-08T09:46:39  <Luke-Jr> heh
118 2016-02-08T09:47:37  <petertodd> it's also notable how jgarzik has been promoting non-bitcoin fintech uses of the blockchain for bitfury - demand for those is potentially basically infinite
119 2016-02-08T09:47:43  <GitHub25> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/b9ed8c996912aed9031caf0e3e6e32530ae6187a
120 2016-02-08T09:47:44  <GitHub25> bitcoin/0.12 b9ed8c9 MarcoFalke: [doc] Update release-process.md...
121 2016-02-08T09:48:55  <Luke-Jr> wumpus: any interest in moving icon rendering to `make distdir` stage? I have working code :p  cons: requires rsvg & imagemagick to build from git
122 2016-02-08T09:49:27  <wumpus> rather not require any graphical tools for building/deploying bitcoin
123 2016-02-08T09:49:38  <wumpus> just make it a developer script that people can run when they actually touch the icons
124 2016-02-08T09:50:42  <Luke-Jr> (building from tarball unaffected)
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126 2016-02-08T09:51:48  <wumpus> icon updates are rare enough to warrant running a special script when they happen
127 2016-02-08T09:52:23  <wumpus> this also allows QA on the produced images, e.g. what if someone has a crappy version of svg, it'd basically include rsvg and imagemagick into the deterministic base
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129 2016-02-08T09:54:28  <Luke-Jr> I suppose. Unfortunately, it's also rare enough that it's probably not worth doing for that purpose alone. The value to me is for a different Knots icon without a binary patch file.
130 2016-02-08T09:55:54  <wumpus> to be even more heretical: can't qt render svg images directly?
131 2016-02-08T09:56:37  <wumpus> (probably means an even worse situation of having rsvg, which is notoriously leaky and buggy, as a dependency of bitcoin-qt, but OK)
132 2016-02-08T09:56:53  <Luke-Jr> Qt's SVG rendering can't handle the shadows
133 2016-02-08T09:57:05  <Luke-Jr> and requires a plugin
134 2016-02-08T09:58:09  <wumpus> right
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170 2016-02-08T15:51:25  <GitHub105> [bitcoin] instagibbs opened pull request #7480: Changed getnetworkhps value to double to avoid overflow. (master...hashps) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7480
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221 2016-02-08T21:03:16  <GitHub193> [bitcoin] sdaftuar opened pull request #7482: [P2P] Ensure headers count is correct (master...fix-download-timeouts) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7482
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228 2016-02-08T21:37:24  <GitHub118> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
229 2016-02-08T21:37:27  <GitHub57> [bitcoin] luke-jr closed pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
230 2016-02-08T21:40:52  <GitHub88> [bitcoin] luke-jr reopened pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
231 2016-02-08T21:40:57  <GitHub97> [bitcoin] luke-jr closed pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
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233 2016-02-08T21:57:43  <GitHub100> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #7485: Use system univalue by default (master...sys_univalue_def) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7485
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238 2016-02-08T22:24:05  <GitHub59> [bitcoin] luke-jr reopened pull request #7483: Render icons from SVG (master...svg_icon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7483
239 2016-02-08T22:35:21  <Luke-Jr> cfields: Fetching qrencode… ERROR: no certificate subject alternative name matches requested host name `fukuchi.org'.
240 2016-02-08T22:35:23  <Luke-Jr> on Travis..
241 2016-02-08T22:36:04  <wumpus> that happens on 0.10 too; for some reason it doesn't even try the fallback after that
242 2016-02-08T22:41:39  * Luke-Jr ponders if updating ca-certificates is sufficient
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253 2016-02-08T23:26:06  <fkhan> Luke-Jr using --no-check-certificate or building wget from source (1.17) can alleviate that
254 2016-02-08T23:26:52  <Luke-Jr> I'm not sure why we're using https at all, considering we check the file hash
255 2016-02-08T23:26:56  <fkhan> the dbus http mirror has a 301 to the wrong url, also
256 2016-02-08T23:27:33  <fkhan> well, i thought the freedesktop ssl error was related to the fukuchi.org one, but totally separate (and was thinkign the same when i saw that last week :))
257 2016-02-08T23:29:18  <fkhan> so, in dbus' case, it actually works better when using https
258 2016-02-08T23:29:34  <fkhan> (until they change the redirect that is)
259 2016-02-08T23:31:06  <fkhan> whoops, nvm, its fine now
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261 2016-02-08T23:42:53  <midnightmagic> Luke-Jr: protocol munging by malicious upstream ISP maybe?
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