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 36 2016-02-29T04:16:02  <michagogo> 22:55:47 <sipa> i think it is vmbuilder that builds the image <- only for KVM
 37 2016-02-29T04:17:36  <michagogo> LXC uses debootstrap, and if you use VBox with Vagrant (does that actually work? Don't think I've heard of anyone using it) it downloads the Ubuntu Cloud Image from cloud-images.ubuntu.com
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 42 2016-02-29T04:33:31  <michagogo> 22:54:48 <btcdrak> does anyone know why gitian builder keeps asking for sudo password before making new image? It's supposed to be in the sudoers, I think there might be some other command that needs to be whitelisted. <-- *before*? Afaik it should be during the process.
 43 2016-02-29T04:34:27  <michagogo> Or to be precise, after creating the new copy, while doing the setup
 44 2016-02-29T04:34:32  <btcdrak> michagogo: That seemed to fix it. I submitted a PR.
 45 2016-02-29T04:34:47  <michagogo> btcdrak: yeah, it should
 46 2016-02-29T04:35:03  <michagogo> Actually, the way you had it before might have worked :P
 47 2016-02-29T04:35:20  <btcdrak> i just whitelisted lxc-execute
 48 2016-02-29T04:35:30  <michagogo> AIUI, you need either lxc-start or lxc-execute, depending on the setup
 49 2016-02-29T04:35:33  <michagogo> But never both
 50 2016-02-29T04:36:18  <michagogo> So if in the context of the VBox/Debian/LXC guide lxc-execute is needed, I believe lxc-start isn't.
 51 2016-02-29T04:36:18  <btcdrak> well, as of the PR, it works without asking sudo password anymore. good enough I guess?
 52 2016-02-29T04:36:43  <michagogo> I mean, not that it really hurts to have another command NOPASSWD'd…
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 75 2016-02-29T07:58:10  <GitHub168> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/317462123f8e...18b3f1b7f625
 76 2016-02-29T07:58:10  <GitHub168> bitcoin/master f41927e BtcDrak: Add missing sudo entry in gitian VM setup....
 77 2016-02-29T07:58:11  <GitHub168> bitcoin/master 18b3f1b Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7619: Add missing sudo entry in gitian VM setup....
 78 2016-02-29T07:58:20  <GitHub133> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7619: Add missing sudo entry in gitian VM setup. (master...gitian-sudo) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7619
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 86 2016-02-29T08:24:14  <GitHub147> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7607: [0.10] Fix .travis.yml (0.10...Mf1602-010travis) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7607
 87 2016-02-29T08:24:14  <GitHub44> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 new commits to 0.10: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b0c97ce31a93...12a0c0b3aac4
 88 2016-02-29T08:24:15  <GitHub44> bitcoin/0.10 dc9ae4c MarcoFalke: Fix url in .travis.yml...
 89 2016-02-29T08:24:15  <GitHub44> bitcoin/0.10 6bf4884 Luke Dashjr: Workaround Travis-side CI issues...
 90 2016-02-29T08:24:16  <GitHub44> bitcoin/0.10 6164639 MarcoFalke: [depends] builders: No need to set -L and --location for curl...
 91 2016-02-29T08:30:49  <GitHub63> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/18b3f1b7f625...f39819140c30
 92 2016-02-29T08:30:49  <GitHub63> bitcoin/master ff2be40 Alfie John: [doc] Typo fix...
 93 2016-02-29T08:30:50  <GitHub63> bitcoin/master f398191 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7612: [doc] Typo fix...
 94 2016-02-29T08:30:54  <GitHub129> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7612: [doc] Typo fix (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7612
 95 2016-02-29T08:41:00  <GitHub61> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f39819140c30...354b03dee188
 96 2016-02-29T08:41:00  <GitHub61> bitcoin/master 3d19193 Chris Moore: Remove spurious dollar sign. Fixes #7189.
 97 2016-02-29T08:41:01  <GitHub61> bitcoin/master 354b03d Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7604: build: Remove spurious dollar sign. Fixes #7189....
 98 2016-02-29T08:41:05  <GitHub134> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7604: build: Remove spurious dollar sign. Fixes #7189. (master...fix_qt4_failback) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7604
 99 2016-02-29T08:51:43  <GitHub24> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/354b03dee188...b53d201eab6d
100 2016-02-29T08:51:44  <GitHub24> bitcoin/master fa7a5c5 MarcoFalke: [depends] builders: No need to set -L and --location for curl
101 2016-02-29T08:51:44  <GitHub24> bitcoin/master b53d201 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7606: [depends] builders: No need to set -L and --location for curl...
102 2016-02-29T08:51:53  <GitHub173> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7606: [depends] builders: No need to set -L and --location for curl (master...Mf1602-curl) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7606
103 2016-02-29T08:52:50  <GitHub17> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b53d201eab6d...f06af574fbb8
104 2016-02-29T08:52:50  <GitHub17> bitcoin/master 8c5a5fb Jonathan Cross: Improving wording related to Boost library requirements [updated]...
105 2016-02-29T08:52:51  <GitHub17> bitcoin/master f06af57 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7590: Improving wording related to Boost library requirements [updated]...
106 2016-02-29T08:53:00  <GitHub31> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7590: Improving wording related to Boost library requirements [updated] (master...patch-3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7590
107 2016-02-29T09:05:25  <GitHub183> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f06af574fbb8...78e81b0bc554
108 2016-02-29T09:05:25  <GitHub183> bitcoin/master ca8fb59 Wladimir J. van der Laan: wallet: Warn on unexpected EOF while salvaging wallet...
109 2016-02-29T09:05:26  <GitHub183> bitcoin/master 78e81b0 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #7537: wallet: Warn on unexpected EOF while salvaging wallet...
110 2016-02-29T09:05:35  <GitHub72> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #7537: wallet: Warn on unexpected EOF while salvaging wallet (master...2016_02_salvage_unexpected_eof) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7537
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124 2016-02-29T10:23:40  <MarcoFalke> wumpus, I was more thinking about a wrapper for LogPrint[f] which adds the new line as default. But I don't know enough CPP to get this working
125 2016-02-29T10:24:08  <wumpus> that'd be too much diff impact
126 2016-02-29T10:24:28  <wumpus> we want to avoid chaning every single line with LogPrint(f)
127 2016-02-29T10:25:11  <MarcoFalke> Keep the name but instead of using the #define LogPrintf, use an actual function
128 2016-02-29T10:25:28  <wumpus> in retrospect, sure, defaulting to adding \n, and having a special function to build incomplete lines would have been better
129 2016-02-29T10:26:11  <MarcoFalke> and then have this function somehow use the macro. But I don't know how to do this in cpp
130 2016-02-29T10:26:15  <wumpus> then again it's not important enough to warrant changes over the code everywhere, breaking every single patch
131 2016-02-29T10:26:49  <wumpus> (we have been extremely conservative with LogPrintf/LogPrint changes before, which is also why the functions are still so similarly named, which is a trap in itself...)
132 2016-02-29T10:31:10  <wumpus> a RAII approach I've seen in other sw,  log::debug("mempool")  << "Rejecting transaction " << tx.GetHash.ToString();   - where going out-of-scope of the object returned from log::debug automatically generates a newline would probably have been better, in all cases it needs to be terminated with newline eventually. Then again, too much impact to change all of them now.
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134 2016-02-29T10:43:15  <go1111111> a bit of friction for new devs that it might be worth it to avoid: on linux if i follow the build instructions all tests pass except for zmq_test.py, because python-zmq isn't on the build dependency list. on one hand this is fine, because it's not needed for non-devs. on the other hand, it'd be nice if tests passed after following build instructions. worth it to submit a PR like this? https://github.com/elliotolds/bitcoin/commit/bc48a5b89e1
135 2016-02-29T10:43:16  <go1111111> e502b1914504b7272ae3581fe1b6a. or if you think I should add it elsewhere let me know
136 2016-02-29T10:46:31  <MarcoFalke> Did you set `ENABLE_ZMQ`?
137 2016-02-29T10:50:29  <MarcoFalke> Oh, is it enabled by default...
138 2016-02-29T10:50:39  <go1111111> I didn't set anything, just followed the build instructions exactly then tried to run the tests as described in the docs.
139 2016-02-29T10:50:58  <go1111111> ah, maybe it used to be disabled and that's the issue?
140 2016-02-29T10:51:06  <go1111111> (by default)
141 2016-02-29T10:52:50  <MarcoFalke> You could create a pull to disable it instead: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6103/files#r38071295
142 2016-02-29T11:00:07  <Luke-Jr> imo just make the error friendly
143 2016-02-29T11:00:38  <Luke-Jr> or maybe get the test harness to explicitly "SKIP" it
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145 2016-02-29T11:07:19  <wumpus> that's strange, the test should be automatically skipped if ZMQ is disabled
146 2016-02-29T11:08:49  <wumpus> that's what qa/pull-tester/tests_config.py.in is about
147 2016-02-29T11:09:34  <wumpus> ohh, python-zmq! no, we don't check for that
148 2016-02-29T11:09:46  <wumpus> so if you have the zmq library installed it will enable ZMQ, and run the test against it
149 2016-02-29T11:10:10  <wumpus> the test should probably be skipped if python-zmq is not enabled
150 2016-02-29T11:10:15  <wumpus> installed*
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153 2016-02-29T11:13:41  <go1111111> ok, I will attempt that tomorrow. if someone knows of an existing place in the codebase where a test is skipped if a python library isn't installed, let me know
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155 2016-02-29T11:19:35  <wumpus> in tests_config.py something like try: import BLA except ImportError: zmq_installed=False else: zmq_installed=True
156 2016-02-29T11:19:40  <wumpus> may print a warning if so too
157 2016-02-29T11:19:50  <wumpus> (at least if zmq is enabled)
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183 2016-02-29T13:46:05  <jtimon> I think it would still be nice to mention python-zmq in build-unix.md
184 2016-02-29T13:46:21  <btcdrak> jtimon: +1
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186 2016-02-29T14:02:35  <jonasschnelli> jtimon, btcdrak: do we also mention the other python modules required for running the tests?
187 2016-02-29T14:03:34  <jonasschnelli> Stuff like: "from binascii import unhexlify"
188 2016-02-29T14:04:17  <jtimon> jonasschnelli: I don't see why not, it can be a couple of lines below libqrencode-dev
189 2016-02-29T14:05:04  <jonasschnelli> IMO it has nothing to do with the build itself... i think it should go here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/qa/rpc-tests/README.md
190 2016-02-29T14:05:27  <jtimon> jonasschnelli: well, it can certainly go somewhere else
191 2016-02-29T14:06:33  <jtimon> jonasschnelli: yeah, actually that seems like a better place
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202 2016-02-29T15:18:42  <btcdrak> jonasschnelli: yes, we need to correctly list all dependencies else it's a real pest for new developers setting up
203 2016-02-29T15:19:22  <btcdrak> jonasschnelli: well the build.md should at least make reference to RPC docs.
204 2016-02-29T15:23:40  <jtimon> sipa: can you take a look at #7566 's latest version?
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212 2016-02-29T16:22:49  <GitHub91> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #7620: [travis] Only run check-doc.py once (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7620
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229 2016-02-29T18:45:43  <GitHub49> [bitcoin] mrbandrews opened pull request #7621: Fixes ZMQ startup with bad arguments. (master...ba-fix-zmq) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7621
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231 2016-02-29T18:50:04  <GitHub192> [bitcoin] TazeTSchnitzel opened pull request #7622: Increase DEFAULT_BLOCK_MAX_SIZE to 1MB (master...increaseDefaultBlockSize) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7622
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243 2016-02-29T19:50:23  <morcos> sdaftuar and i have question about the new standardness rules for version 2 txs
244 2016-02-29T19:50:56  <morcos> hmm
245 2016-02-29T19:51:22  <morcos> is it ok if txs with nsequence bits which are still undefined are still standard
246 2016-02-29T19:51:54  <morcos> i think we answered our own question, its ok.  b/c if you want to further impart meaning to the nsequence field you'd increase tx version again
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248 2016-02-29T19:53:41  <btcdrak> yes
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251 2016-02-29T21:12:24  <GitHub41> [bitcoin] vlamer opened pull request #7623: newcomer can think bitcoincore.org is Bitcoin homepage. (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7623
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274 2016-02-29T23:22:36  <CodeShark> On a plane heading back home. I think the roundtable went really well.
275 2016-02-29T23:23:33  <gmaxwell> Which I knew something about it.
276 2016-02-29T23:24:09  <sipa> Wish? Witch? s/it//?
277 2016-02-29T23:24:20  <petertodd> morcos: please make sure undefined nSequence bits are standard...
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279 2016-02-29T23:25:01  <petertodd> morcos: may need them for voting schemes
280 2016-02-29T23:30:37  <sipa> i believe that's the case
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282 2016-02-29T23:43:39  <GitHub133> [bitcoin] vlamer closed pull request #7623: newcomer can think bitcoincore.org is Bitcoin homepage. (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7623
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285 2016-02-29T23:55:10  <gmaxwell> Was anyone here ever contacted by a group called the "Bitcoin Privacy Project"?  They just put out a report that said that we did not respond to repeated contact attempts.
286 2016-02-29T23:56:09  <gmaxwell> The reports is quite ... remarkable. For example, it places "Samourai" wallet ahead of Bitcoin-QT.... this wallet was recently in some reddit controversy when someone reverse engineered their closed source binaries and found that they were, without disclosure, sending all the user's addresses to BC.i.
287 2016-02-29T23:57:01  <gmaxwell> ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/447s7c/samourai_is_the_most_private_and_anonymous/ )
288 2016-02-29T23:57:10  <AaronvanW> gmaxwell: that's interesting because I think kristiv atlas (bc.i) co-authored the report
289 2016-02-29T23:57:52  <sipa> http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010006.html
290 2016-02-29T23:57:55  <sipa> that?
291 2016-02-29T23:58:39  <Luke-Jr> 4.	Does your application fully implement BIP 62? <-- lol?
292 2016-02-29T23:59:04  <sipa> http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-January/007152.html
293 2016-02-29T23:59:24  <gmaxwell> Likewise, they rated Bitcoin-Qt at 0 for physical security; when I believe it's the only wallet software in their test which is hardned against timing and RF sidechannels (some of the hardware wallets, like ledger are).  Most of their wallets in their test do not implement meaningful KDFs for wallet encryption, thouh Bitcoin Core does.