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 38 2016-06-15T04:14:34  <GitHub114> [bitcoin] petertodd opened pull request #8204: Update petertodd's testnet seed (master...2016-06-15-update-tbtc-seed) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8204
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 54 2016-06-15T07:09:55  <jonasschnelli> sipa: hmm.. "dig A testnet-seed.bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch" reports different result then "dig A x1.testnet-seed.bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch"?
 55 2016-06-15T07:11:24  <sipa> jonasschnelli: of course
 56 2016-06-15T07:11:29  <sipa> separate request
 57 2016-06-15T07:11:37  <sipa> since it is not cached by dns
 58 2016-06-15T07:12:15  <jonasschnelli> Right. But x1 gives me back 22 IP where non-filter gives me back 1 IP!
 59 2016-06-15T07:12:38  <jonasschnelli> non-filtered should also result in a "full–response" not just a single IP
 60 2016-06-15T07:12:45  <jonasschnelli> I'll attach gdb
 61 2016-06-15T07:13:12  <sipa> well at least use dig @yourseedersip A testnet-seed.... then
 62 2016-06-15T07:13:35  <sipa> so you see what your seeder responds, unfiltered by the several dns layers that may be between
 63 2016-06-15T07:13:55  <jonasschnelli> Yes. I tested also locally against port 5353
 64 2016-06-15T07:15:25  <sipa> i get a nice long list for both
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 66 2016-06-15T07:18:55  <jonasschnelli> hmm.. now i'm also getting a long list... strange
 67 2016-06-15T07:19:50  <sipa> maybe you were just seeing a cached result?
 68 2016-06-15T07:20:36  <jonasschnelli> Could be. But a cache with a single IP would be strange?!
 69 2016-06-15T07:21:49  <sipa> unless it only found one useful ip to respond with
 70 2016-06-15T07:26:47  <jonasschnelli> I think a single IP for NODE_NETWORK after running ~24h seems buggy,... but depends on the ISPs DNS cache TTL overrides. I keep an eye on it...
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 75 2016-06-15T07:43:08  <luke-jr> fwiw, I am intentionally delaying my DNS seed upgrade in case of unexpected issues; let me know if this is a problem.
 76 2016-06-15T07:47:23  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: there is no hurry with DNS seeder upgrade...
 77 2016-06-15T07:47:40  <jonasschnelli> I guess 0.13 will support seeds with support and without support for filtering
 78 2016-06-15T07:48:07  <sipa> jonasschnelli: oh, an x9 result!
 79 2016-06-15T07:48:17  <jonasschnelli> sipa: Yes. A single one. :)
 80 2016-06-15T07:48:43  <jonasschnelli> petertodd dns response 23... ^^
 81 2016-06-15T07:48:45  <jonasschnelli> (a bug)
 82 2016-06-15T08:03:33  <GitHub116> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #8205: [Wallet] add HD keypath to CKeyMetadata, report over validateaddress (master...2016/06/hd_metadata) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8205
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 93 2016-06-15T09:02:34  <jonasschnelli> hmm... importwallet of a new bip32 dumped wallet will just import the keys and not the "hdness"...
 94 2016-06-15T09:02:40  <jonasschnelli> but I think this is okay.
 95 2016-06-15T09:03:00  <jonasschnelli> importwallet is not a backup restore option
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 97 2016-06-15T09:10:43  <GitHub29> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #8206: [Wallet] add HD xpriv to dumpwallet, show masterkeyid in getwalletinfo (master...2016/06/hd_info) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8206
 98 2016-06-15T09:14:12  <GitHub170> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #8207: [trivial] Add a link to the Bitcoin-Core repository to the About Dialog (master...Mf1606-LicInfo) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8207
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156 2016-06-15T17:35:18  <GitHub100> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #8208: Do not set extra flags for unfiltered DNS seed results (master...simplerservices) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8208
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180 2016-06-15T19:13:08  <jouke_> Core wallet also rebroadcasts transactions it received right?
181 2016-06-15T19:13:15  <jouke_> Or, hmmm.
182 2016-06-15T19:13:24  <jouke_> I don't think it does.
183 2016-06-15T19:15:26  <sipa> only its own transactions
184 2016-06-15T19:17:11  <jouke_> thanks
185 2016-06-15T19:18:24  <gmaxwell> now that we have expiration and limited mempools it might be useful for privacy to 'adopt' random addresses from the network and rebroadcast them like a local wallet.
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187 2016-06-15T19:21:29  <jouke_> Yeah, and those block explorers probably keep those transactions longer visible as well. A lot of our customers don't keep their wallets online after they made a transaction.
188 2016-06-15T19:22:40  <jouke_> And use blockexplorers to keep track of those transactions
189 2016-06-15T19:25:35  <gmaxwell> it might make sense to only do this for addresses that send a high fee RBF flagged transaction, rebroadcasting non-rbf/low fee txn can have adverse effects, getting in the way of a higher fee doublespend post expiration.
190 2016-06-15T19:28:36  <jouke_> Indeed. Altough most of them don't mind if we rebroadcast them for them (it saves them the hassle).
191 2016-06-15T19:30:00  <gmaxwell> a lot of the needs rebroadcast activity I've seen is due to chains of unconfirmed transactions basically not propagating at all in the network.
192 2016-06-15T19:31:12  <gmaxwell> 0.13 will help that, potentially a lot depending on if my last orphanmap PR goes in.
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194 2016-06-15T19:36:32  <gmaxwell> Can I get some other review on #8084, by chance only people from blockstream have ACKed it (though I don't believe it's ever been mentioned inside blockstream, beyond me asking patrick to review since he originally wrote that code)
195 2016-06-15T19:37:00  <gmaxwell> it's a pretty trivial change.
196 2016-06-15T19:37:21  <gmaxwell> and I'd be glad to explain it or the general evicition logic, if anyone has questions.
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198 2016-06-15T19:39:10  <sdaftuar> gmaxwell: i'll try to take a look today
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200 2016-06-15T19:49:43  <jouke_> You guys are doing an awesome job :)
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203 2016-06-15T19:54:33  <sdaftuar> gmaxwell: i just looked at the change to AcceptBlock.  if i send you an old block that is just past the last checkpoint (and not on the main chain), you'll think i'm a better peer?
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205 2016-06-15T19:56:16  <sipa> jouke_: thank you
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207 2016-06-15T19:58:09  <gmaxwell> sdaftuar: Yes, though there are only a finite number of those.  Have any suggestion on a better _simple_ test? This is a fairly small behavior and I really didn't want to go restructuring block acceptance to enable it.
208 2016-06-15T19:58:33  <gmaxwell> I ~think~ it's okay if it's a little approximate, but ideally it should be the least approximate that can easily be done.
209 2016-06-15T19:58:46  <sdaftuar> yeah i'm not sure what you're going for here
210 2016-06-15T19:59:01  <sdaftuar> presumably it's not hard to mine new blocks just past the last checkpoint using today's mining hardware
211 2016-06-15T19:59:17  <sdaftuar> if that's okay, then so be it
212 2016-06-15T19:59:44  <sdaftuar> i think an alternative thing to do would be to see if they're giving you a block that's on a more work chain than your tip
213 2016-06-15T19:59:50  <gmaxwell> Basically we reserve a couple of inbound slots to be protected from eviction based on a bunch of different hopefully orthorgonal criteria. So that its difficult for a single attacker to 'win' in all the different ways.
214 2016-06-15T19:59:55  <sdaftuar> fHasMoreWork is right there
215 2016-06-15T20:00:09  <gmaxwell> I could just move that test down to after the not requested block.
216 2016-06-15T20:00:19  <sdaftuar> yeah that should work
217 2016-06-15T20:00:24  <gmaxwell> and then it won't get set if it wasn't requested (better header) or at least has work.
218 2016-06-15T20:00:27  <gmaxwell> okay will do.
219 2016-06-15T20:00:30  <sdaftuar> cool
220 2016-06-15T20:00:34  <gmaxwell> I agree that would be better.
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222 2016-06-15T20:08:19  <gmaxwell> anyone know how to fix a corrupt git repo? :(  my laptop lost power while I was in the process of pushing the update. and I'm now getting:
223 2016-06-15T20:08:30  <gmaxwell> error: object file .git/objects/7e/990c38c0751935245fc1b370823623fd791fc8 is empty
224 2016-06-15T20:08:33  <gmaxwell> error: object file .git/objects/7e/990c38c0751935245fc1b370823623fd791fc8 is empty
225 2016-06-15T20:08:36  <gmaxwell> fatal: loose object 7e990c38c0751935245fc1b370823623fd791fc8 (stored in .git/objects/7e/990c38c0751935245fc1b370823623fd791fc8) is corrupt
226 2016-06-15T20:08:45  <sipa> gmaxwell: delete those files until it no longer complains
227 2016-06-15T20:08:48  <sipa> run git fsck
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229 2016-06-15T20:09:06  <sipa> you may to manually change what head points to
230 2016-06-15T20:09:11  <gmaxwell> oh awesome I lost net.cpp too.
231 2016-06-15T20:09:27  <gmaxwell> weird when I wasn't even editing that file.
232 2016-06-15T20:10:18  <sipa> tjis is what happens to me all the time when my laptop goes out of power while compiling
233 2016-06-15T20:10:37  <sipa> maybe i should make 'make' an alias for 'sync; make'
234 2016-06-15T20:13:26  <gmaxwell> wow it wiped out most of the source files in fact, perhaps because they'd changed briefly before in my checkout.
235 2016-06-15T20:14:05  <btcdrak> what about your reflog?
236 2016-06-15T20:14:15  <sipa> reflog won't help
237 2016-06-15T20:14:33  <sipa> best case, it points to objects that no longer exist
238 2016-06-15T20:14:40  <sipa> worst case, the reflog is gone
239 2016-06-15T20:15:20  <sipa> gmaxwell: worktrees are nice
240 2016-06-15T20:15:43  <gmaxwell> damn that branch is destroyed, and I can't delete it.
241 2016-06-15T20:16:43  <gmaxwell> I should alias git to "sync; git"
242 2016-06-15T20:17:11  <gmaxwell> why doesn't git sync after making changes? :-/
243 2016-06-15T20:17:30  * gmaxwell types man git
244 2016-06-15T20:17:39  * gmaxwell reads git - the stupid content tracker
245 2016-06-15T20:17:43  * gmaxwell is enlightened
246 2016-06-15T20:19:31  <gmaxwell> sdaftuar: updated, thanks.
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248 2016-06-15T20:40:37  <gmaxwell> for context, I wouldn't consider "mine a checkpoint-diff-block to get placement here" a bad outcome, less good than the simple change. But we should eventually have a hashcash category too.  (and as many other categories as people can think of that we can easily measure)
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250 2016-06-15T20:41:41  <sipa> they should also not protect a fixed number of nodes, but rather some percentages
251 2016-06-15T20:42:45  <gmaxwell> some might be better as percentages, some better as fixed numbers.
252 2016-06-15T20:43:01  <sipa> i think there should also be some generic scoring, that can be used as tie breakers
253 2016-06-15T20:43:03  <sipa> than you
254 2016-06-15T20:43:15  <sipa> 1) remove protected nodes from the list
255 2016-06-15T20:43:45  <sipa> 2) sort by the tie breaker per netgroup, and remove all but the best from each netgroup
256 2016-06-15T20:44:11  <sipa> 3) sort the remainders again overall, and pick the worst
257 2016-06-15T20:44:30  <sipa> eh, remove the best from each netgroup
258 2016-06-15T20:44:33  <gmaxwell> I suggested before some abstract ratio of bandwidth usage to 'good activity', then rank peers by that.
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260 2016-06-15T20:44:48  <gmaxwell> there are a lot of little improvements too, e.g. those sorts should all be heaps.
261 2016-06-15T20:44:54  <sipa> indeed
262 2016-06-15T20:45:15  <sipa> after the libevent switch we may be able to deal with many more peers
263 2016-06-15T20:46:03  <gmaxwell> I worry that that will undermine the utility of things like eviction, since with many peers you'll be able to be kept busy with 999 junk peers. No one is disconnected but they might be startved.
264 2016-06-15T20:48:51  <sipa> or maybe there can be multiple local node services, with connections sharded over them
265 2016-06-15T20:49:00  <sipa> that each run on one or a few threads
266 2016-06-15T20:49:15  <sipa> and communicate with eachother as peers
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269 2016-06-15T20:52:55  <instagibbs> is there a fast way in github to check how PRs changed
270 2016-06-15T20:53:24  <btcdrak> what do you mean?
271 2016-06-15T20:54:11  <instagibbs> someone squashes, changes a PR, whatever. Aside from locally fetching, diffing, is there an in-github way to do this if I have the two commit hashes
272 2016-06-15T20:54:43  <btcdrak> Github has started to send email notification for each push
273 2016-06-15T20:55:56  <btcdrak> instagibbs: I dont think so, except for the /compare/ url scheme
274 2016-06-15T20:56:26  <btcdrak> assuming you know prev hash from the notification history, or lookjing at the submitter's RSS feed
275 2016-06-15T20:56:47  <instagibbs> example?
276 2016-06-15T20:57:18  <btcdrak> https://github.com/instagibbs?tab=activity
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278 2016-06-15T21:00:40  <btcdrak> compare format is something like https://github.com/<baseforkusername>/<repo>/compare/<branch>...<repo>:<commit/branch>
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284 2016-06-15T21:50:51  <gmaxwell> yes, I think to increase the peer count, we should have some kind of mechenism that isolates or at least prioritizes handling peers.
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