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 13 2016-06-22T02:11:26  <jl2012> I talked to wangchun. F2pool has stopped setting the csv bit.
 14 2016-06-22T02:29:36  <phantomcircuit> jl2012: i dont think it matters the soft fork is locked in either way
 15 2016-06-22T02:29:46  <phantomcircuit> (i could be wrong here but im prettty sure im not)
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 17 2016-06-22T02:30:51  <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: it doesn't.
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 19 2016-06-22T02:40:19  <btcdrak> jl2012: need to ask antpool to unset it also.
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 23 2016-06-22T02:57:33  <instagibbs> phantomcircuit, there is just some concern of blocks having bits set that a client wont understand
 24 2016-06-22T02:57:46  <instagibbs> alerts for no reason(more than we already have now)
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 29 2016-06-22T03:14:36  <btcdrak> yes. please see latest article on website
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 41 2016-06-22T06:49:11  <GitHub53> bitcoin/master 3775ff9 Pieter Wuille: Enable mempool consistency checks in unit tests
 42 2016-06-22T06:49:11  <GitHub53> bitcoin/master 961893f Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8222: Enable mempool consistency checks in unit tests...
 43 2016-06-22T06:49:15  <GitHub147> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8222: Enable mempool consistency checks in unit tests (master...unittestmempool) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8222
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 49 2016-06-22T06:50:35  <GitHub115> bitcoin/master b3e1348 Jonas Schnelli: [Qt] fix a bug where the SplashScreen will not be hidden during startup
 50 2016-06-22T06:50:36  <GitHub115> bitcoin/master 760a6c7 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8231: [Qt] fix a bug where the SplashScreen will not be hidden during startup...
 51 2016-06-22T06:50:39  <GitHub92> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8231: [Qt] fix a bug where the SplashScreen will not be hidden during startup (master...2016/06/qt_min_fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8231
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 54 2016-06-22T06:52:25  <GitHub180> bitcoin/master 4cbe05b Wladimir J. van der Laan: qt: Periodic transifex update...
 55 2016-06-22T06:52:25  <GitHub180> bitcoin/master 9e45ef1 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8234: qt: Periodic transifex update...
 56 2016-06-22T06:52:34  <GitHub197> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8234: qt: Periodic transifex update (master...2016_06_transifex_update) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8234
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 80 2016-06-22T07:47:31  <fanquake> wumpus Some issues that can be closed #7861 #7873 #7866
 81 2016-06-22T07:47:48  <fanquake> Also #6701 should have been closed by #7667
 82 2016-06-22T07:48:41  <fanquake> Possibly also #6702
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 87 2016-06-22T07:52:20  <fanquake> #7872 can also be closed. Not sure why this account has opened so many random/meaningless issues.
 88 2016-06-22T08:02:55  <MarcoFalke> done
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 91 2016-06-22T08:13:28  <gmaxwell> Anyone have exact IsSuperMajority heights for BIP30/65/66 on mainnet and testnet handy, by any chance?
 92 2016-06-22T08:14:35  <btcdrak> gmaxwell BIP66 block 363724 according to https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/38436/when-did-bip66-switch-from-activation-to-enforcement
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 94 2016-06-22T08:21:09  <btcdrak> gmaxwell: BIP65 was activated on block #388380
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 96 2016-06-22T08:22:21  <btcdrak> luke-jr: maybe we should update the BIPs with activation blocks when they activate
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 99 2016-06-22T08:32:38  <btcdrak> gmaxwell: do you mean BIP34? according to the BIP text "Block number 227,835 (timestamp 2013-03-24 15:49:13 GMT) was the last version 1 block."
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106 2016-06-22T09:05:11  <gmaxwell> uhh. is reindex broken on master for anyone else?
107 2016-06-22T09:06:06  <gmaxwell> oh it's not broken.
108 2016-06-22T09:06:14  <gmaxwell> it just looks funny now that it scans headers first.
109 2016-06-22T09:06:20  <gmaxwell> hm. we might get bug reports on that.
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111 2016-06-22T09:08:16  <wumpus> those mrCertified issues are crazy, didn't notice them before, thanks for closing fanquake/MarcoFalke
112 2016-06-22T09:18:00  <sipa> btcdrak: bips.md has more info
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114 2016-06-22T09:31:14  <GitHub199> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.11: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/0cd4fb6570f67d40891673bc8c41e473b9753c63
115 2016-06-22T09:31:14  <GitHub199> bitcoin/0.11 0cd4fb6 Wladimir J. van der Laan: qt: Final translation update on 0.11 branch...
116 2016-06-22T09:32:47  <gmaxwell> so the first point where     if (block.nVersion >= 2 && IsSuperMajority(2, pindexPrev, consensusParams.nMajorityEnforceBlockUpgrade, consensusParams))
117 2016-06-22T09:35:02  <gmaxwell> is true is 224413, which seems to suggest that the BIP34 height in the chainparams is wrong?
118 2016-06-22T09:37:01  <gmaxwell> nevermind. activated vs enforced.
119 2016-06-22T09:37:37  <wumpus> phew
120 2016-06-22T09:38:11  <sipa> gmaxwell: what looks funny about it?
121 2016-06-22T09:39:23  <sipa> gmaxwell: the chainparams value is the first point where it activated and never went to non-activated anymore
122 2016-06-22T09:40:53  <wumpus> maybe add a comment to prevent people panicking from this again in the future :)
123 2016-06-22T09:41:07  <gmaxwell> I will.
124 2016-06-22T09:41:49  <gmaxwell> I was in the process of making a patch to remove all the IsSuperMajority code, and replace with simple height checks.
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127 2016-06-22T09:54:55  <gmaxwell> I think it's weird that we end up with network connections while reindexing.
128 2016-06-22T09:59:43  <wumpus> outgoing or incoming?
129 2016-06-22T10:00:20  <gmaxwell> outgoing.
130 2016-06-22T10:00:23  <wumpus> in principle the network code is simply running while reindexing, it just doesn't request blocks nor transactions
131 2016-06-22T10:00:41  <wumpus> I don't think that's necessarily wrong
132 2016-06-22T10:01:08  <gmaxwell> I'm probably only really noticing because I have debugging turned up and the invs are filling up my logs.
133 2016-06-22T10:01:24  <gmaxwell> Is it useful to have connections up while reindexing?
134 2016-06-22T10:01:40  <sipa> i guess it may make sense for addr relay
135 2016-06-22T10:01:41  <wumpus> no, but it also doesn't hurt, there doesn't need to be a strong coupling between network code and chain handling code
136 2016-06-22T10:02:11  <sipa> we could extend the dont-request-blocks rule to dont-request-transactions too
137 2016-06-22T10:02:28  <wumpus> I think that's already the case?
138 2016-06-22T10:02:35  <gmaxwell> doesn't appear to be requesting any.
139 2016-06-22T10:02:40  <gmaxwell> The negatives I can think of: wastes network resources, might defeat "is it working" monitoring. Otherwise, I agree.
140 2016-06-22T10:03:14  <wumpus> there is also a paralellism aspect: there will already be connections to request blocks on when the reindexing finished
141 2016-06-22T10:03:48  <gmaxwell> Thats a point.
142 2016-06-22T10:03:59  <wumpus> in any case there doesn't seem to be a strong reason to special-case this, so let's not
143 2016-06-22T10:05:10  <wumpus> the amount of network resources 'wasted' during reindex must be negible compared to a running node, and if you really care about (say when benchmarking) that and want to do a pure reindex, pass -connect=0 and disable listening...
144 2016-06-22T10:05:15  <sipa> wumpus: unfortunately, there is a bug around that
145 2016-06-22T10:05:25  <sipa> wumpus: we don't start requesting headers when reindex finishes
146 2016-06-22T10:05:47  <sipa> so only when an inv for a new block arrives, actual sync continues after a reindex
147 2016-06-22T10:05:56  <gmaxwell> We should probably release note that reindex may look inactive for a period of time at the beginning.
148 2016-06-22T10:05:57  <wumpus> that seems wrong
149 2016-06-22T10:06:05  <sipa> we should fix it
150 2016-06-22T10:06:16  <sipa> i'll file an issue if there is none already
151 2016-06-22T10:06:16  <gmaxwell> indeed, but after 3 hours, an extra block delay is not the end of the world. :)
152 2016-06-22T10:07:00  <wumpus> on the other hand reindex is just a tool to fix for broken databases, which unfortunately happen much more than they should, but it shouldn't be something people are doing day in day out
153 2016-06-22T10:07:26  <wumpus> so I suppose the +/- 10 minute delay is indeed not the end of the world
154 2016-06-22T10:07:41  <gmaxwell> I think that at some not far future version we should rename reindex to work around bad instructions on the internet that have people reindexing every time they see a shadow.
155 2016-06-22T10:07:48  <wumpus> nah
156 2016-06-22T10:08:14  <sipa> -really-reindex
157 2016-06-22T10:08:25  <gmaxwell> --rebuild-state
158 2016-06-22T10:08:28  <sipa> well we do have -reindex-chainstate now
159 2016-06-22T10:08:43  <sipa> but -reindex itself is still useful when your block files are corrupted
160 2016-06-22T10:08:54  <wumpus> for better or worse, there are many legitimate issues solved by a reindex, seems almost sadistic to break all kinds of well-meant guides on the internet. Even if it results in slightly more reindexes besing run all in all.
161 2016-06-22T10:09:08  <sipa> of course
162 2016-06-22T10:09:15  <gmaxwell> not yet, but in some near future where awesome improvements reduce the use for ever running it, of course.
163 2016-06-22T10:09:22  <sipa> same with rescan
164 2016-06-22T10:09:31  <wumpus> I'm not a fan of the rename-an-option-to-prevent-people-from-doing-it school if the option isn't a danger of monetary loss
165 2016-06-22T10:09:45  <sipa> at least the very common advice to fix random problems with a -rescan has died out
166 2016-06-22T10:09:52  <wumpus> if there was a purge-privatekeys option for the wallet I would want to rename it eveery release :p
167 2016-06-22T10:10:04  <sipa> haha
168 2016-06-22T10:10:12  <gmaxwell> okay. I won't argue for it, I was only motivated by the fact that many of the old reasons are gone.
169 2016-06-22T10:10:12  <sipa> --steal-my-coins
170 2016-06-22T10:10:37  <sipa> gmaxwell: do you have evidence of -reindex commonly being suggested for the wrong reasons?
171 2016-06-22T10:10:46  <gmaxwell> E.g. someone in #bitcoin two days ago was exasperated while on day three of a reindex on an rpi3 that was totally unneeded.
172 2016-06-22T10:11:24  <wumpus> the utxo backup fallback woud still be a good idea, we should aim to get it into 0.14
173 2016-06-22T10:11:25  <gmaxwell> In that case, it was listed as a mandatory step for moving chainstate from x86 to rpi, suggested due non-portability that no longer exists.
174 2016-06-22T10:11:31  <sipa> wumpus: agree
175 2016-06-22T10:12:05  <wumpus> gmaxwell: was that a guide on the wiki? if so it'd be easy to fix
176 2016-06-22T10:12:14  <wumpus> if not, we should probably contact the author
177 2016-06-22T10:13:30  <gmaxwell> (also, for pruning to someday become a default option, we must reduce the incidence of reindex to ~0)
178 2016-06-22T10:13:35  <wumpus> do you have a link to that guide?
179 2016-06-22T10:17:01  <gmaxwell> I thought I asked him, but I didn't. I asked now.
180 2016-06-22T10:18:27  <GitHub189> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #8238: [WIP][depends] ZeroMQ 4.1.5 && ZMQ on Windows (master...depends-zeromq-4-1-5) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8238
181 2016-06-22T10:27:16  <fanquake> Was #6702 solved by #7667 ?
182 2016-06-22T10:29:26  <fanquake> Can probably close #7724, sipa replied and it seems that the issue is user hardware.
183 2016-06-22T10:34:58  <fanquake> #7735 Isn't going to happen any time soon, and can probably be closed.
184 2016-06-22T10:37:55  <fanquake> #7979 can be closed.
185 2016-06-22T10:44:33  <wumpus> thanks, done
186 2016-06-22T10:50:07  <fanquake> #7725 Looks closable, seems like the issue was related directory permissions.
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188 2016-06-22T10:52:09  <fanquake> #7733 Could be closed as wontfix, as documentation was linked to elsewhere. Unless we need to follow up and add links to the README or something?
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190 2016-06-22T10:55:33  <wumpus> agree
191 2016-06-22T10:55:51  <sipa> fanquake: thanks a lot for going through those issues!
192 2016-06-22T10:56:12  <wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/4095 is a qt issue, and a curious one at that, anyone ever managed to reproduce this?
193 2016-06-22T10:56:24  <wumpus> yes, thanks!
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196 2016-06-22T11:02:06  <fanquake> #5758 Seems to have gone stale, no followup replies.
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198 2016-06-22T11:02:46  <sipa> fanquake: closed 1.5 years ago?
199 2016-06-22T11:02:55  <wumpus> wrong number I think
200 2016-06-22T11:03:06  <sipa> we need a checksum digit in PR numbers
201 2016-06-22T11:03:11  <fanquake> Sorry, #5785
202 2016-06-22T11:03:12  <wumpus> <:
203 2016-06-22T11:04:47  <sipa> ack on merging compact blocks?
204 2016-06-22T11:05:32  <fanquake> #6472 && #7341 can probably be closed now that we've switched to Qt5.6.1
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207 2016-06-22T11:09:09  <fanquake> Can close #7834 - Changes to the macports portfile have been made upstream, and  parallel builds are working ok normally.
208 2016-06-22T11:14:53  <btcdrak> sipa: ack.
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215 2016-06-22T11:44:14  <wumpus> I've been testing compact blocks on one of my ARM nodes for quite some time, no issues
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220 2016-06-22T12:11:22  <instagibbs> I see no reason to block merging. Only nits/minor improvements left which can be taken on later.
221 2016-06-22T12:20:08  <wumpus> agree
222 2016-06-22T12:20:15  <wumpus> okay, hold on tight
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226 2016-06-22T12:31:04  <GitHub185> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 19 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9e45ef1ef031...e9d76a161d30
227 2016-06-22T12:31:05  <GitHub185> bitcoin/master 96806c3 Pieter Wuille: Stop trimming when mapTx is empty
228 2016-06-22T12:31:05  <GitHub185> bitcoin/master 7c29ec9 Matt Corallo: If AcceptBlockHeader returns true, pindex will be set....
229 2016-06-22T12:31:06  <GitHub185> bitcoin/master cbda71c Matt Corallo: Move context-required checks from CheckBlockHeader to Contextual...
230 2016-06-22T12:31:13  <GitHub25> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8068: Compact Blocks (master...udp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8068
231 2016-06-22T12:31:19  <wumpus> ^^
232 2016-06-22T12:31:24  <fanquake> Woo
233 2016-06-22T12:31:29  <instagibbs> \o/
234 2016-06-22T12:32:00  <btcdrak> oh man
235 2016-06-22T12:32:04  <btcdrak> yis!
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238 2016-06-22T12:42:44  <shangzhou> wow
239 2016-06-22T12:51:44  <GitHub170> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e9d76a161d30...9f1807af2422
240 2016-06-22T12:51:45  <GitHub170> bitcoin/master b7bf037 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Mention ARM executables in release process...
241 2016-06-22T12:51:45  <GitHub170> bitcoin/master 05f64c9 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Mention Linux ARM builds in release notes
242 2016-06-22T12:51:46  <GitHub170> bitcoin/master 06f40ef Wladimir J. van der Laan: depends: Mention aarch64 as common cross-compile target
243 2016-06-22T12:51:47  <GitHub183> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8233: Mention Linux ARM executables in release process and notes (master...2016_06_release_process_arm) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8233
244 2016-06-22T12:58:20  <wumpus> is there any way to see (in the GUI or through RPC) if a wallet is BIP32?
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250 2016-06-22T13:49:17  <sipa> i'm rebasing segwit on top of compact blocks; they'll be mutually exclusive until we define a means to negotiate witness-or-not in compact blocks
251 2016-06-22T13:49:34  <sipa> so compact blocks won't work on test where segwit is already defined
252 2016-06-22T13:49:41  <sipa> s/won't work/won't be used/
253 2016-06-22T13:52:46  <wumpus> makes sense for the first version, being clear that it should not stay that way
254 2016-06-22T13:53:03  <sipa> yes, and fixing it is trivial
255 2016-06-22T13:53:11  <sipa> but i feel that's beyond the scope of segwit
256 2016-06-22T13:53:36  <sipa> as that will at the very least testing how they interact in the real world
257 2016-06-22T13:58:44  <wumpus> yes
258 2016-06-22T13:59:38  <wumpus> though there is the risk that miners may see segwit as a step back, if its activation disables compact blocks
259 2016-06-22T14:00:33  <sipa> we definitely need to have segwit+compactblock support defined and implement before picking a start time for segwit
260 2016-06-22T14:01:19  <instagibbs> sipa, for 0.13 you mean?
261 2016-06-22T14:01:32  <btcdrak> sipa: so step 1 is to merge in master, then step 2 work out the segwit+cb support, then step 3 set starttime?
262 2016-06-22T14:01:42  <sipa> yes
263 2016-06-22T14:01:51  <wumpus> oh! yes that order makes sense
264 2016-06-22T14:04:38  <instagibbs> cb doesn't matter for 0.12.2, so backport with activation can move forward regardless, right?
265 2016-06-22T14:04:56  <wumpus> right, cb doesn't matter for 0.12.2
266 2016-06-22T14:05:32  <sipa> indeed, backport of segwit and definition of cb+segwit can happen in parallel
267 2016-06-22T14:05:41  <sipa> when both are done, we can pick a start time
268 2016-06-22T14:07:39  <btcdrak> neat :)
269 2016-06-22T14:08:07  <btcdrak> so I assume after CB rebase, it's merge time?
270 2016-06-22T14:09:02  <sipa> i'm unconfortable with the fact that the codebase since 7910 started and now has diverged so much that the recent changes and integration are not very transparent to review
271 2016-06-22T14:09:22  <sipa> not so much that nobody has looked at them, but more that there isn't a good way to know whether you've seen everythong
272 2016-06-22T14:09:34  <sipa> you can look at the merge commit in 7910
273 2016-06-22T14:09:41  <sipa> but it's pretty big by now
274 2016-06-22T14:10:13  <btcdrak> i thought we're not merging 7910, but the other cleaned up version?
275 2016-06-22T14:10:36  <sipa> yes, of course
276 2016-06-22T14:10:44  <sipa> but 8049 has been rebased constantly
277 2016-06-22T14:12:20  <btcdrak> also I assume we need to reactivate/hf testnet?
278 2016-06-22T14:12:44  <sipa> testnet activation is included in both
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280 2016-06-22T14:14:29  <sipa> but for example, #7935 introduced the concept of gbt_force (bip9 rollouts which the GBT client needs explicit support for)
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282 2016-06-22T14:15:22  <sipa> in rebased segwit (#8149), the commit that adds GBT support for segwit also introduces the integration with gbt_force
283 2016-06-22T14:15:46  <sipa> in the old segwit patch (#7910), that integration is completely hidden inside the merge commit with master
284 2016-06-22T14:17:40  <sipa> other than that, i don't think waiting with merge makes much sense...
285 2016-06-22T14:18:28  <sipa> looking at the merge commit in 7910 may make sense
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287 2016-06-22T14:18:53  <sipa> (git show will show you all conflicts it resolved, but the format with double +/- signs is not so simple to read)
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289 2016-06-22T14:28:28  <fanquake> sipa great work
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291 2016-06-22T14:30:50  <GitHub86> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #8240: doc: Mention Windows XP end of support in release notes (master...2016_06_windows_xp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8240
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297 2016-06-22T14:44:32  <GitHub198> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f3eebcf5158f...9adad33938ec
298 2016-06-22T14:44:32  <GitHub198> bitcoin/0.12 ffff324 MarcoFalke: [doc] 0.12: prepare release notes
299 2016-06-22T14:44:32  <GitHub192> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8236: [doc] 0.12.2: prepare release notes (0.12...Mf1606-docReleaseNotes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8236
300 2016-06-22T14:44:33  <GitHub198> bitcoin/0.12 9adad33 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8236: [doc] 0.12.2: prepare release notes...
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306 2016-06-22T14:57:09  <GitHub54> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #8241: 0.13: Disable bad chain alerts (master...2016_06_alexit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8241
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319 2016-06-22T17:03:27  <GitHub1> [bitcoin] paveljanik opened pull request #8242: Check if the macro PKG_PROG_PKG_CONFIG was expanded. (master...20160622_check_pkg-config) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8242
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