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152016-06-28T05:26:39 <GitHub184> [bitcoin] pstratem opened pull request #8277: Refactor CBlockHeaderAndShortTxIDs::GetShortID into CTransaction (master...2016-06-26-ctransaction-getshortid) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8277
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292016-06-28T07:57:47 <GitHub81> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8264: src: Fix spelling error in comment - tinyformat.h (master...bitcoiner-fix-typo-tinyformat) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8264
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322016-06-28T08:12:27 <GitHub147> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5a06ebbf2d5f...ff03c50c0048
332016-06-28T08:12:27 <GitHub147> bitcoin/master 1acf1db Pieter Wuille: Do not ask a UI question from bitcoind
342016-06-28T08:12:28 <GitHub147> bitcoin/master ff03c50 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8257: Do not ask a UI question from bitcoind...
352016-06-28T08:12:35 <GitHub126> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8257: Do not ask a UI question from bitcoind (master...noask) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8257
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392016-06-28T09:35:30 <GitHub126> [bitcoin] ChoHag opened pull request #8278: Forking daemon (master...forking-daemon) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8278
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422016-06-28T09:50:26 <GitHub193> bitcoin/master 9a227e9 Wladimir J. van der Laan: tx: change slug to `bitcoin.qt-translation-013x`...
432016-06-28T09:50:27 <GitHub193> bitcoin/master 3b2dadc Wladimir J. van der Laan: qt: Periodic translations update
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452016-06-28T09:59:33 <wumpus> morcos: thanks for the info; yes that makes sense, I think we should (separately) consider lowering the default mempool size
462016-06-28T09:59:47 <wumpus> but not for 0.13, maybe, as you say it warrants more testing
472016-06-28T10:12:21 <phantomcircuit> sipa, i'd like to implement mempool sync using short ids
482016-06-28T10:12:37 <phantomcircuit> looking at the trickle logic for this
492016-06-28T10:12:43 <phantomcircuit> im thinking this is no longer trivial
502016-06-28T10:12:52 <phantomcircuit> is there a shortcut you can point me towards?
512016-06-28T10:12:53 <phantomcircuit> :)
522016-06-28T10:14:21 <sipa> can you elaborate?
532016-06-28T10:15:33 <phantomcircuit> sipa, the goal is to essentially prime the cache for compact block
542016-06-28T10:16:48 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: the lack of any fetch by short ID might get in your way. :P
552016-06-28T10:16:50 <phantomcircuit> peers request the top ~2MiB of a nodes mempool (ancestor index) and the node responds with short ids
562016-06-28T10:17:01 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, well yeah i'd be adding that
572016-06-28T10:17:21 <phantomcircuit> keyed on the last block the requestee had seen
582016-06-28T10:17:32 <gmaxwell> perhaps better is to request a "fakeblock", and then use the getblocktxn mechenism?
592016-06-28T10:17:33 <phantomcircuit> so if you weren't at the same tip you'd just get gibberish
602016-06-28T10:18:02 <gmaxwell> why require same tip? just have the sender pick a nonce.
612016-06-28T10:18:20 <phantomcircuit> because this can be cached by the node receiving the request
622016-06-28T10:18:20 <gmaxwell> or even generate a block, cache it, and serve requests on it.
632016-06-28T10:18:31 <gmaxwell> you can cache a generated block.
642016-06-28T10:19:46 <phantomcircuit> hmm
652016-06-28T10:20:49 <gmaxwell> what kind of timeframe do you think you'd do this in? for mempool sync in general, set reconcillation should be used. PinSketch is super easy to use C++ code, but we couldn't put it into production until rewriting it. (due to incompatible licensing and because NTL is huge)
662016-06-28T10:23:16 <gmaxwell> set recon may or may not make sense for block relay, because the cpu time to decode is prohibitive enough to get in the way of latency... but for mempool sync no such issue exists.
672016-06-28T10:23:29 <gmaxwell> and it sends data exactly equal in size to the symmetric difference.
682016-06-28T10:25:56 <phantomcircuit> i'd like something really simple that we can do like
692016-06-28T10:26:01 <phantomcircuit> nowish
702016-06-28T10:26:26 <phantomcircuit> i have some private patches which are kind of stupid that do this for mining nodes
712016-06-28T10:27:05 <phantomcircuit> there's a pretty significant advantage to having a mining node with a smaller mempool
722016-06-28T10:27:56 <gmaxwell> If there is we should fix that.
732016-06-28T10:29:48 <gmaxwell> because of the use of indexes I'd consider it a bug if createnew block was taking more than a tiny amount longer with a 100MB mempool than a 2MB one.
742016-06-28T10:30:04 <phantomcircuit> it's removing conflicts that's slow
752016-06-28T10:30:17 <phantomcircuit> but yeah i guess i should try to benchmark that first
762016-06-28T10:30:54 <gmaxwell> I was wondering that as I commented, but that might just be the case where we're missing some index we should have.
772016-06-28T10:31:23 <sipa> gmaxwell: the mempool remove of conflicts code copies CTransaction objects all over the place
782016-06-28T10:31:34 <sipa> eh phantomcircuit
792016-06-28T10:32:11 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, i'll benchmark it
802016-06-28T10:32:15 <phantomcircuit> im prettttty sure it's slow
812016-06-28T10:32:28 <gmaxwell> great. "we should fix that"
822016-06-28T10:32:38 <sipa> we should switch that to shared_ptr based
832016-06-28T10:32:51 <sipa> so it can return the deleted transactions without copying
842016-06-28T10:34:03 <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: I think mempool sync is useful and important, but it shouldn't be used to hack around even more important speed improvements.
852016-06-28T10:36:21 <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, the principle reason for it is to prime the cache for compact blocks
862016-06-28T10:36:32 <phantomcircuit> but i guess that can just be a simple list of txids
872016-06-28T10:36:36 <phantomcircuit> once per connect
882016-06-28T10:37:20 <gmaxwell> yes, thats an initially useful application, though we should also be considering directing our attention toward reducing relay overhead, because with BIP152, it's now the biggest user of bandwidth on a listening node.
892016-06-28T10:38:23 <phantomcircuit> ok well i guess i'll benchmark the conflict thing
902016-06-28T10:40:50 <sipa> phantomcircuit: that would be very useful
912016-06-28T10:41:16 <sipa> i can write a patch that i think will improve its performance significantly
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1092016-06-28T13:13:48 <phantomcircuit> sipa, uh first off it seems we're iterating vTx twice in removeForBlock for no reason?
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1192016-06-28T14:05:33 <GitHub157> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 new commits to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9adad33938ec...080457c4ee97
1202016-06-28T14:05:33 <GitHub76> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8148: Backport leveldb build integration to 0.12 (0.12...0.12) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8148
1212016-06-28T14:05:34 <GitHub157> bitcoin/0.12 03c709b Johnathan Corgan: Backport leveldb build integration to 0.12...
1222016-06-28T14:05:34 <GitHub157> bitcoin/0.12 932aedd Johnathan Corgan: Cherry-pick of f59dceb (#7925) to 0.12....
1232016-06-28T14:05:35 <GitHub157> bitcoin/0.12 9462e79 Johnathan Corgan: This is a cherry-pick of 89c844d back to 0.12....
1242016-06-28T14:06:59 <GitHub19> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3b2dadc8d5bb...3685e0c1da29
1252016-06-28T14:06:59 <GitHub19> bitcoin/master 2129fce Pavel JanÃk: The bit field is shown only when status is "started"
1262016-06-28T14:07:00 <GitHub19> bitcoin/master 3685e0c Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8261: The bit field is shown only when status is "started"...
1272016-06-28T14:07:11 <GitHub152> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8261: The bit field is shown only when status is "started" (master...20160625_sw_getblockchaininfo_bit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8261
1282016-06-28T14:11:29 <kanzure> https://petertodd.org/2016/segwit-consensus-critical-code-review
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1322016-06-28T14:37:18 <GitHub17> [bitcoin] sdaftuar opened pull request #8280: Tests: Increase sync_blocks() timeouts in pruning.py (master...fix-pruning-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8280
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1352016-06-28T14:44:48 <sipa> petertodd: re your review the witness cost check is in contextual because we need to know whether segwit is enabled when seeing a block without context
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1502016-06-28T16:32:18 <GitHub142> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #8281: qt: Remove client name from debug window (master...2016_06_qt_remove_client_name) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8281
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1622016-06-28T17:19:56 <GitHub20> [bitcoin] EthanHeilman opened pull request #8282: net: Feeler connections to increase online addrs in the tried table. (master...feelers3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8282
1632016-06-28T17:23:18 <paveljanik> FYI: github's download PR as a diff doesn't work: Pavels-MacBook-Pro:tmp pavel$ curl -L https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8281.diff
1642016-06-28T17:23:18 <paveljanik> curl: (51) SSL: no alternative certificate subject name matches target host name 'patch-diff.githubusercontent.com'
1652016-06-28T17:23:18 <paveljanik> Pavels-MacBook-Pro:tmp pavel$
1662016-06-28T17:23:31 <paveljanik> their cert doesn't contain proper SAN.
1672016-06-28T17:26:22 <paveljanik> reported to github
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1752016-06-28T17:53:05 <petertodd> sipa: but my point is, currently the way that cost check is written is such that it's applied even if segwit isn't enabled, for non-segwit blocks
1762016-06-28T17:53:27 <petertodd> sipa: that said, I think you're right that the content of the footnote is wrong; I'll delete it
1772016-06-28T17:53:44 <sipa> petertodd: yes, but only after checking that there is no superfluous witness record, and that check is dependent on context
1782016-06-28T17:54:01 <sipa> thank you for the review though!
1792016-06-28T17:54:32 <sipa> the malleability to exceed size limits needs to be addressed
1802016-06-28T17:54:50 <petertodd> sipa: sure, the existing code I do believe works, I was concerned about problems if we ever add anything else to that cost check
1812016-06-28T17:56:37 <sipa> ah, ok
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1832016-06-28T18:01:55 <petertodd> sipa: sorry if it's not clear, but most of my objections are semi-theoretical, "if we screw up x this will break", belt-and-suspenders stuff :)
1842016-06-28T18:03:43 <petertodd> speaking of, I just added this sentence to the summary: "Put another way, in a number of places we either have a belt, or suspenders, when given the importance of this code weâd rather have both a belt and suspenders."
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1902016-06-28T18:24:27 <bsm117532> Hey petertodd, I'm doing some stuff with your python-bitcoinlib. Have you had a chance to incorporate the new address types and whatnot for segwit?
1912016-06-28T18:25:37 <sipa> there are no new address tyoes
1922016-06-28T18:25:39 <sipa> tyoes
1932016-06-28T18:25:41 <sipa> tyPes
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1952016-06-28T18:28:34 <bsm117532> Oh I see, you embedded it in P2SH.
1962016-06-28T18:31:33 * bsm117532 does a little dance, and pushes the "segwit required from now on" button in his code.
1972016-06-28T18:35:00 <bsm117532> I have a use case which absolutely needs the txid to be immutable. In order to achieve that, is it necessary that the *inputs* to my transaction be *outputs* of a segwit transaction?
1982016-06-28T18:35:29 <sipa> yes
1992016-06-28T18:36:13 <bsm117532> Ok then I'll have to test the inputs. Thanks sipa.
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2212016-06-28T20:19:13 <bsm117532> So the trick is that the scriptSig is only data pushes. Since the top of the stack is non-zero (unless you know a preimage that hashes to zero), pre-segwit considers it anyone can spend, and any following input with an empty scriptPubKey can spend it. No?
2222016-06-28T20:20:29 <sipa> in segwit scriptSig will e empty
2232016-06-28T20:20:51 <sipa> the scriptPubKey is just pushes
2242016-06-28T20:21:01 <sdaftuar> well, p2sh-wrapped-segwit won't have empty scriptsig
2252016-06-28T20:22:56 <sipa> right, it would just have a redeemScript
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2282016-06-28T20:37:56 <petertodd> bsm117532: apparently someone else has been working on adding segwit to python-bitcoinlib; I haven't looked at their code yet, which afaik isn't public yet :(
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2332016-06-28T20:57:18 <GitHub58> [bitcoin] Mirobit opened pull request #8283: Move AdvertiseLocal debug output to net category (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8283
2342016-06-28T20:57:21 <bsm117532> I'm looking at P2SH-wrapped-segwit. And yes I mixed up scriptSig and scriptPubkey...I wish we could rename those... :-/
2352016-06-28T20:57:44 <bsm117532> petertodd: If you have any further references, I'd be happy to try it out.
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2372016-06-28T20:59:05 <bsm117532> or collaborate on a PR for python-bitcoinlib...
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2412016-06-28T21:31:49 <gmaxwell> gmail is marking all erik's mail as spam, I was wondering why I was only seeing one half of the conversation.
2422016-06-28T21:32:05 <gmaxwell> "Be careful with this message. It contains content that's typically used to steal personal information."
2432016-06-28T21:32:22 <btcdrak> what's the header?
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2452016-06-28T21:37:41 <btcdrak> gmaxwell if you mean Eric Voskuil, strangely my gmail isnt marking his messages as spam.
2462016-06-28T21:38:33 <gmaxwell> yes, I do.
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