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 15 2016-06-28T05:26:39  <GitHub184> [bitcoin] pstratem opened pull request #8277: Refactor CBlockHeaderAndShortTxIDs::GetShortID into CTransaction (master...2016-06-26-ctransaction-getshortid) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8277
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 33 2016-06-28T08:12:27  <GitHub147> bitcoin/master 1acf1db Pieter Wuille: Do not ask a UI question from bitcoind
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 35 2016-06-28T08:12:35  <GitHub126> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8257: Do not ask a UI question from bitcoind (master...noask) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8257
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 45 2016-06-28T09:59:33  <wumpus> morcos: thanks for the info; yes that makes sense, I think we should (separately) consider lowering the default mempool size
 46 2016-06-28T09:59:47  <wumpus> but not for 0.13, maybe, as you say it warrants more testing
 47 2016-06-28T10:12:21  <phantomcircuit> sipa, i'd like to implement mempool sync using short ids
 48 2016-06-28T10:12:37  <phantomcircuit> looking at the trickle logic for this
 49 2016-06-28T10:12:43  <phantomcircuit> im thinking this is no longer trivial
 50 2016-06-28T10:12:52  <phantomcircuit> is there a shortcut you can point me towards?
 51 2016-06-28T10:12:53  <phantomcircuit> :)
 52 2016-06-28T10:14:21  <sipa> can you elaborate?
 53 2016-06-28T10:15:33  <phantomcircuit> sipa, the goal is to essentially prime the cache for compact block
 54 2016-06-28T10:16:48  <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: the lack of any fetch by short ID might get in your way. :P
 55 2016-06-28T10:16:50  <phantomcircuit> peers request the top ~2MiB of a nodes mempool (ancestor index) and the node responds with short ids
 56 2016-06-28T10:17:01  <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, well yeah i'd be adding that
 57 2016-06-28T10:17:21  <phantomcircuit> keyed on the last block the requestee had seen
 58 2016-06-28T10:17:32  <gmaxwell> perhaps better is to request a "fakeblock", and then use the getblocktxn mechenism?
 59 2016-06-28T10:17:33  <phantomcircuit> so if you weren't at the same tip you'd just get gibberish
 60 2016-06-28T10:18:02  <gmaxwell> why require same tip? just have the sender pick a nonce.
 61 2016-06-28T10:18:20  <phantomcircuit> because this can be cached by the node receiving the request
 62 2016-06-28T10:18:20  <gmaxwell> or even generate a block, cache it, and serve requests on it.
 63 2016-06-28T10:18:31  <gmaxwell> you can cache a generated block.
 64 2016-06-28T10:19:46  <phantomcircuit> hmm
 65 2016-06-28T10:20:49  <gmaxwell> what kind of timeframe do you think you'd do this in?  for mempool sync in general, set reconcillation should be used. PinSketch is super easy to use C++ code, but we couldn't put it into production until rewriting it. (due to incompatible licensing and because NTL is huge)
 66 2016-06-28T10:23:16  <gmaxwell> set recon may or may not make sense for block relay, because the cpu time to decode is prohibitive enough to get in the way of latency... but for mempool sync no such issue exists.
 67 2016-06-28T10:23:29  <gmaxwell> and it sends data exactly equal in size to the symmetric difference.
 68 2016-06-28T10:25:56  <phantomcircuit> i'd like something really simple that we can do like
 69 2016-06-28T10:26:01  <phantomcircuit> nowish
 70 2016-06-28T10:26:26  <phantomcircuit> i have some private patches which are kind of stupid that do this for mining nodes
 71 2016-06-28T10:27:05  <phantomcircuit> there's a pretty significant advantage to having a mining node with a smaller mempool
 72 2016-06-28T10:27:56  <gmaxwell> If there is we should fix that.
 73 2016-06-28T10:29:48  <gmaxwell> because of the use of indexes I'd consider it a bug if createnew block was taking more than a tiny amount longer with a 100MB mempool than a 2MB one.
 74 2016-06-28T10:30:04  <phantomcircuit> it's removing conflicts that's slow
 75 2016-06-28T10:30:17  <phantomcircuit> but yeah i guess i should try to benchmark that first
 76 2016-06-28T10:30:54  <gmaxwell> I was wondering that as I commented, but that might just be the case where we're missing some index we should have.
 77 2016-06-28T10:31:23  <sipa> gmaxwell: the mempool remove of conflicts code copies CTransaction objects all over the place
 78 2016-06-28T10:31:34  <sipa> eh phantomcircuit
 79 2016-06-28T10:32:11  <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, i'll benchmark it
 80 2016-06-28T10:32:15  <phantomcircuit> im prettttty sure it's slow
 81 2016-06-28T10:32:28  <gmaxwell> great. "we should fix that"
 82 2016-06-28T10:32:38  <sipa> we should switch that to shared_ptr based
 83 2016-06-28T10:32:51  <sipa> so it can return the deleted transactions without copying
 84 2016-06-28T10:34:03  <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: I think mempool sync is useful and important, but it shouldn't be used to hack around even more important speed improvements.
 85 2016-06-28T10:36:21  <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, the principle reason for it is to prime the cache for compact blocks
 86 2016-06-28T10:36:32  <phantomcircuit> but i guess that can just be a simple list of txids
 87 2016-06-28T10:36:36  <phantomcircuit> once per connect
 88 2016-06-28T10:37:20  <gmaxwell> yes, thats an initially useful application, though we should also be considering directing our attention toward reducing relay overhead, because with BIP152, it's now the biggest user of bandwidth on a listening node.
 89 2016-06-28T10:38:23  <phantomcircuit> ok well i guess i'll benchmark the conflict thing
 90 2016-06-28T10:40:50  <sipa> phantomcircuit: that would be very useful
 91 2016-06-28T10:41:16  <sipa> i can write a patch that i think will improve its performance significantly
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109 2016-06-28T13:13:48  <phantomcircuit> sipa, uh first off it seems we're iterating vTx twice in removeForBlock for no reason?
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119 2016-06-28T14:05:33  <GitHub157> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 new commits to 0.12: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9adad33938ec...080457c4ee97
120 2016-06-28T14:05:33  <GitHub76> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8148: Backport leveldb build integration to 0.12 (0.12...0.12) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8148
121 2016-06-28T14:05:34  <GitHub157> bitcoin/0.12 03c709b Johnathan Corgan: Backport leveldb build integration to 0.12...
122 2016-06-28T14:05:34  <GitHub157> bitcoin/0.12 932aedd Johnathan Corgan: Cherry-pick of f59dceb (#7925) to 0.12....
123 2016-06-28T14:05:35  <GitHub157> bitcoin/0.12 9462e79 Johnathan Corgan: This is a cherry-pick of 89c844d back to 0.12....
124 2016-06-28T14:06:59  <GitHub19> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3b2dadc8d5bb...3685e0c1da29
125 2016-06-28T14:06:59  <GitHub19> bitcoin/master 2129fce Pavel Janík: The bit field is shown only when status is "started"
126 2016-06-28T14:07:00  <GitHub19> bitcoin/master 3685e0c Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #8261: The bit field is shown only when status is "started"...
127 2016-06-28T14:07:11  <GitHub152> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #8261: The bit field is shown only when status is "started" (master...20160625_sw_getblockchaininfo_bit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8261
128 2016-06-28T14:11:29  <kanzure> https://petertodd.org/2016/segwit-consensus-critical-code-review
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132 2016-06-28T14:37:18  <GitHub17> [bitcoin] sdaftuar opened pull request #8280: Tests: Increase sync_blocks() timeouts in pruning.py (master...fix-pruning-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8280
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135 2016-06-28T14:44:48  <sipa> petertodd: re your review the witness cost check is in contextual because we need to know whether segwit is enabled when seeing a block without context
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150 2016-06-28T16:32:18  <GitHub142> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #8281: qt: Remove client name from debug window (master...2016_06_qt_remove_client_name) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8281
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162 2016-06-28T17:19:56  <GitHub20> [bitcoin] EthanHeilman opened pull request #8282: net: Feeler connections to increase online addrs in the tried table. (master...feelers3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8282
163 2016-06-28T17:23:18  <paveljanik> FYI: github's download PR as a diff doesn't work: Pavels-MacBook-Pro:tmp pavel$ curl -L https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8281.diff
164 2016-06-28T17:23:18  <paveljanik> curl: (51) SSL: no alternative certificate subject name matches target host name 'patch-diff.githubusercontent.com'
165 2016-06-28T17:23:18  <paveljanik> Pavels-MacBook-Pro:tmp pavel$
166 2016-06-28T17:23:31  <paveljanik> their cert doesn't contain proper SAN.
167 2016-06-28T17:26:22  <paveljanik> reported to github
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175 2016-06-28T17:53:05  <petertodd> sipa: but my point is, currently the way that cost check is written is such that it's applied even if segwit isn't enabled, for non-segwit blocks
176 2016-06-28T17:53:27  <petertodd> sipa: that said, I think you're right that the content of the footnote is wrong; I'll delete it
177 2016-06-28T17:53:44  <sipa> petertodd: yes, but only after checking that there is no superfluous witness record, and that check is dependent on context
178 2016-06-28T17:54:01  <sipa> thank you for the review though!
179 2016-06-28T17:54:32  <sipa> the malleability to exceed size limits needs to be addressed
180 2016-06-28T17:54:50  <petertodd> sipa: sure, the existing code I do believe works, I was concerned about problems if we ever add anything else to that cost check
181 2016-06-28T17:56:37  <sipa> ah, ok
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183 2016-06-28T18:01:55  <petertodd> sipa: sorry if it's not clear, but most of my objections are semi-theoretical, "if we screw up x this will break", belt-and-suspenders stuff :)
184 2016-06-28T18:03:43  <petertodd> speaking of, I just added this sentence to the summary: "Put another way, in a number of places we either have a belt, or suspenders, when given the importance of this code we’d rather have both a belt and suspenders."
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190 2016-06-28T18:24:27  <bsm117532> Hey petertodd, I'm doing some stuff with your python-bitcoinlib.  Have you had a chance to incorporate the new address types and whatnot for segwit?
191 2016-06-28T18:25:37  <sipa> there are no new address tyoes
192 2016-06-28T18:25:39  <sipa> tyoes
193 2016-06-28T18:25:41  <sipa> tyPes
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195 2016-06-28T18:28:34  <bsm117532> Oh I see, you embedded it in P2SH.
196 2016-06-28T18:31:33  * bsm117532 does a little dance, and pushes the "segwit required from now on" button in  his code.
197 2016-06-28T18:35:00  <bsm117532> I have a use case which absolutely needs the txid to be immutable.  In order to achieve that, is it necessary that the *inputs* to my transaction be *outputs* of a segwit transaction?
198 2016-06-28T18:35:29  <sipa> yes
199 2016-06-28T18:36:13  <bsm117532> Ok then I'll have to test the inputs.  Thanks sipa.
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221 2016-06-28T20:19:13  <bsm117532> So the trick is that the scriptSig is only data pushes.  Since the top of the stack is non-zero (unless you know a preimage that hashes to zero), pre-segwit considers it anyone can spend, and any following input with an empty scriptPubKey can spend it.  No?
222 2016-06-28T20:20:29  <sipa> in segwit scriptSig will  e empty
223 2016-06-28T20:20:51  <sipa> the scriptPubKey is just pushes
224 2016-06-28T20:21:01  <sdaftuar> well, p2sh-wrapped-segwit won't have empty scriptsig
225 2016-06-28T20:22:56  <sipa> right, it would just have a redeemScript
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228 2016-06-28T20:37:56  <petertodd> bsm117532: apparently someone else has been working on adding segwit to python-bitcoinlib; I haven't looked at their code yet, which afaik isn't public yet :(
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233 2016-06-28T20:57:18  <GitHub58> [bitcoin] Mirobit opened pull request #8283: Move AdvertiseLocal debug output to net category (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8283
234 2016-06-28T20:57:21  <bsm117532> I'm looking at P2SH-wrapped-segwit.  And yes I mixed up scriptSig and scriptPubkey...I wish we could rename those... :-/
235 2016-06-28T20:57:44  <bsm117532> petertodd: If you have any further references, I'd be happy to try it out.
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237 2016-06-28T20:59:05  <bsm117532> or collaborate on a PR for python-bitcoinlib...
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242 2016-06-28T21:32:05  <gmaxwell> "Be careful with this message. It contains content that's typically used to steal personal information."
243 2016-06-28T21:32:22  <btcdrak> what's the header?
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245 2016-06-28T21:37:41  <btcdrak> gmaxwell if you mean Eric Voskuil, strangely my gmail isnt marking his messages as spam.
246 2016-06-28T21:38:33  <gmaxwell> yes, I do.
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