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102016-06-29T00:52:43 <petertodd> bsm117532: pull-reqs accepted :) I'm gonna bother the guys who said they were doing a segwit pull later
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272016-06-29T03:28:33 <GitHub61> [bitcoin] jmcorgan opened pull request #8284: Backport remaining commits for out-of-tree builds from master to 0.12 branch (0.12...build-oot-0.12) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8284
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722016-06-29T08:41:58 <GitHub81> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3685e0c1da29...6a87eb0e4b47
732016-06-29T08:41:58 <GitHub81> bitcoin/master a7897c0 Wladimir J. van der Laan: qt: Remove client name from debug window...
742016-06-29T08:41:59 <GitHub81> bitcoin/master 6a87eb0 Jonas Schnelli: Merge #8281: qt: Remove client name from debug window...
752016-06-29T08:42:08 <GitHub119> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #8281: qt: Remove client name from debug window (master...2016_06_qt_remove_client_name) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8281
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782016-06-29T08:43:03 <jonasschnelli> wumpus: merged #8281 after the freeze (trivial non-feature). I hope this is okay...
792016-06-29T08:49:17 <wumpus> sure :)
802016-06-29T08:49:40 <wumpus> removing things is never a problem after the freeze
812016-06-29T08:49:46 <wumpus> thanks for testing
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912016-06-29T10:01:02 <NicolasDorier> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/iXD6zdrp/
922016-06-29T10:01:08 <NicolasDorier> looooooong timeout
932016-06-29T10:01:36 <NicolasDorier> it was blocked, and strangely, when, I hit "Enter" in the console windows, all the socket dropped
942016-06-29T10:01:57 <NicolasDorier> it is not the first time where I see a windows app completely frozen and unlocked by hitting enter in the console windows
952016-06-29T10:02:30 <NicolasDorier> I guess the long timeout and this problem are related. But not really sure it comes from bitcoind.
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972016-06-29T10:05:57 <wumpus> I've heard of the problem before, seems only to happen with windows bitcoind.exe
982016-06-29T10:06:34 <wumpus> one guess would be that the network code somehow ends up reading from the console file descriptor, blocking it
992016-06-29T10:07:54 <wumpus> pretty rare and annoying to debug, I hope cfields's libevent networking will make it go away
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1132016-06-29T11:41:04 <GitHub75> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #8285: windows: Add testnet link to installer (master...2016_06_testnet_link_windows) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8285
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1172016-06-29T12:28:59 <jonasschnelli> On my XEON E3 machine I get the deadlock assertions all the time...
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1232016-06-29T13:15:38 <wumpus> jonasschnelli: which deadlock assertion?
1242016-06-29T13:23:05 <wumpus> in networking?
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1312016-06-29T13:51:45 <jonasschnelli> wumpus: yes. Always the same one: https://0bin.net/paste/p7d5aWJ1VUohM5ss#pNvMfpotISfZWnhH5sZgg6dzVKEWK6sEALP8YHgkfzU
1322016-06-29T13:52:01 <jonasschnelli> Can't really run master with --enable-debug on that machine..
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1342016-06-29T13:57:40 <MarcoFalke> Could the testnet windows link cause any problems/confusion when a user does not know the distinction between mainnet and testnet?
1352016-06-29T13:59:39 <sipa> It may result in people accidentally starting to use it, and testnet gaining exchange value again :p
1362016-06-29T14:01:25 <jonasschnelli> hehe...
1372016-06-29T14:01:42 <jonasschnelli> We could move it into a folder called "development/" or so in the windows startmenu?!
1382016-06-29T14:02:06 <jonasschnelli> No strong opinion though.
1392016-06-29T14:20:51 <GitHub67> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #8286: [doc] typos, READMEs, comments, headers (master...Mf1607-trivialPre13) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8286
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1432016-06-29T14:37:18 <wumpus> sigh
1442016-06-29T14:37:32 <wumpus> couldn't we have that discussion *before* I started implementing it? I wouldn't have bothered
1452016-06-29T14:37:38 <wumpus> I'd say a green icon and (testnet) would eb clear enough
1462016-06-29T14:37:41 <wumpus> but if not, never mind
1472016-06-29T14:38:19 <MarcoFalke> It is helpful for 0.13
1482016-06-29T14:38:34 <MarcoFalke> but we may want to revert it for 0.14
1492016-06-29T14:38:43 <wumpus> why?
1502016-06-29T14:39:06 <wumpus> the issue was that people don't test on testnet enough
1512016-06-29T14:39:43 <sipa> i think it is fine
1522016-06-29T14:39:46 <wumpus> I'm not sure why that'd be version dependent
1532016-06-29T14:39:49 <MarcoFalke> On the other hand. The people that can't figure out how to start testnet are not going to do fancy pentesting
1542016-06-29T14:39:56 <sipa> i think testnet gaining value would be a fantastic problem to have
1552016-06-29T14:40:14 <sipa> because it would imply it is being used
1562016-06-29T14:40:27 <wumpus> so is it anywhere in the testnet GUI not clear that it is running testnet?
1572016-06-29T14:40:39 <wumpus> the icon color is different, the splash is different, the window title is different
1582016-06-29T14:40:44 <sipa> it doesn't even accept the same addresses
1592016-06-29T14:40:51 <wumpus> right!
1602016-06-29T14:40:51 <wumpus> I'd say if people get confused by that, that's toobad for them
1612016-06-29T14:40:56 <sipa> nobody will accidentally try to pay from the testnet client
1622016-06-29T14:41:10 <sipa> if there are complaints about it causing confusion we can address them
1632016-06-29T14:41:11 <wumpus> nodoby can have themselves paid out to a testnet client
1642016-06-29T14:41:22 <sipa> i think it's a good thing regardless to give testnet more exposure
1652016-06-29T14:41:31 <wumpus> anyhow, we should have had this discussion sooner, I wouldn't have dived into all the windows bullshit
1662016-06-29T14:41:40 <sipa> i think it's all fine
1672016-06-29T14:41:43 <MarcoFalke> Sure, nothing fatal can happen.
1682016-06-29T14:41:45 <wumpus> it's not like it is any fun
1692016-06-29T14:41:55 <wumpus> I thought there was agreement to do it
1702016-06-29T14:42:01 <sipa> there was
1712016-06-29T14:42:46 <sipa> and there is, as far as i'm concerned
1722016-06-29T14:42:49 <wumpus> let's not be over-worried, if you should be worried about something it'd be a fatal bug in any new feature of 0.13
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1742016-06-29T14:43:46 <MarcoFalke> Agree, we should totally try that and see what happens.
1752016-06-29T14:45:00 <MarcoFalke> Maybe we can then close https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/3172
1762016-06-29T14:45:56 <wumpus> that one was never entirely clear to me, it's not a request for bitcoin core feature
1772016-06-29T14:46:42 <wumpus> (at least how I read it it could be implemented as an external script in terms of rpc)
1782016-06-29T14:47:16 <wumpus> jonasschnelli: thanks for the new icon, going to try
1792016-06-29T14:47:17 <sipa> I think 3172 proposes a service which we run
1802016-06-29T14:47:23 <sipa> the code for which could be included in the reposiutory
1812016-06-29T14:47:46 <wumpus> I don't think it's something we want to encourage though
1822016-06-29T14:47:48 <wumpus> bouncing coins that way
1832016-06-29T14:48:00 <wumpus> people may think it's a valid way to refund
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1852016-06-29T14:48:35 <wumpus> if someone wants to make a service like that, they can, anyhow
1862016-06-29T14:49:30 <paveljanik> the only confusion can be sample address in the Pay To in the Send tab. It is 1NS... which is a bad example in testnet.
1872016-06-29T14:50:15 <sipa> we could add an exampleaddress std::string to chainparams
1882016-06-29T14:50:26 <wumpus> or heck, just remove the example address
1892016-06-29T14:50:46 <paveljanik> I'd prefer removal, yes :-)
1902016-06-29T14:50:51 <wumpus> especially with the new address formats coming up
1912016-06-29T14:50:52 <sipa> also fine
1922016-06-29T14:51:42 <paveljanik> or we can take an address used in coinbase of the genesis block
1932016-06-29T14:51:45 <paveljanik> 8)
1942016-06-29T14:52:08 <wumpus> lol, it doesn't have to be a valid address at al
1952016-06-29T14:52:16 <wumpus> it's not like people are supposed to send to it
1962016-06-29T14:52:49 <wumpus> (it's luckily not easy to do that, as it will disappear if you start typing)
1972016-06-29T14:53:01 <paveljanik> yes, but better to show them something they are supposed to enter in the field.
1982016-06-29T14:53:25 <paveljanik> you can't even copy&paste it... so this is good.
1992016-06-29T14:53:35 <wumpus> although I've never even thought about people trying to do that - removing the example address is definitely safest
2002016-06-29T14:53:43 <wumpus> indeed, you can't
2012016-06-29T14:53:54 <wumpus> you could make a screenshot then type it over
2022016-06-29T14:53:58 <wumpus> or OCR it :-)
2032016-06-29T14:54:16 <paveljanik> providing example address can be of some value though, for some people...
2042016-06-29T14:54:20 <wumpus> or just memorize it
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2062016-06-29T14:54:41 <wumpus> nah, all in all, it's probably a liability
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2082016-06-29T14:54:58 <wumpus> I also used to have that opinion that it had some value, but that value may well be slightly negative :)
2092016-06-29T14:56:15 <wumpus> can we generate an address that *looks* like an address for current network
2102016-06-29T14:56:18 <wumpus> but is invalid?
2112016-06-29T14:56:34 <wumpus> we can't change that message anymore for 0.13 as its part of a translation strnig
2122016-06-29T14:56:48 <wumpus> but the address is parametrized
2132016-06-29T14:57:58 <wumpus> maybe instead of a full address show the first few characters and ...
2142016-06-29T14:58:38 <paveljanik> then we can print the address for pubkey 0.
2152016-06-29T14:58:53 <paveljanik> privkey of course
2162016-06-29T14:59:04 <paveljanik> 1HZ or so it was...
2172016-06-29T14:59:15 <wumpus> pubkey 0 would work too, probably easier to generate
2182016-06-29T14:59:53 <paveljanik> isn't pubkey 0 valid? ;-)
2192016-06-29T15:00:15 <sipa> the example address IS an invalid address i hope
2202016-06-29T15:00:17 <paveljanik> privkey 0 is valid when sending 8)
2212016-06-29T15:00:22 <sipa> like, its checksum fails
2222016-06-29T15:01:15 <wumpus> IIRC it is valid
2232016-06-29T15:01:44 <wumpus> src/test/data/base58_encode_decode.json:["00eb15231dfceb60925886b67d065299925915aeb172c06647", "1NS17iag9jJgTHD1VXjvLCEnZuQ3rJDE9L"],
2242016-06-29T15:02:45 <wumpus> ok it's just valid base58, not more, you may be right about the checksum
2252016-06-29T15:04:18 <wumpus> simple enough to use the same principle to generate an address on the fly with the correct network-specific prefix
2262016-06-29T15:06:16 <GitHub69> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #8287: [wallet] Set fLimitFree = true (master...Mf1607-walletLimitFree) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8287
2272016-06-29T15:11:11 <MarcoFalke> paveljanik: Off-by-one for boolean is fatal. I am pretty sure I got it right :)
2282016-06-29T15:12:02 <sipa> In other news: C++17 removes the ++ operator for booleans
2292016-06-29T15:12:07 <paveljanik> MarcoFalke, ;-) So in the sendrawtransaction you have just set it to false as it was before, only named the constant.
2302016-06-29T15:12:53 <paveljanik> so in the commit with =true, you applied +bool fLimitFree = false; ;-)
2312016-06-29T15:13:27 <paveljanik> a bit unexpected :-)
2322016-06-29T15:13:32 <MarcoFalke> The rpc is just refactoring
2332016-06-29T15:13:36 <paveljanik> but correct :-)
2342016-06-29T15:13:37 <paveljanik> yes
2352016-06-29T15:13:49 <MarcoFalke> Hopefully someone will remove that soon
2362016-06-29T15:13:51 <MarcoFalke> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7533#discussion_r57856636
2372016-06-29T15:15:42 <paveljanik> but there are usecases where you want to accept free tx into your mempool. Especially when it is submitted locally...
2382016-06-29T15:16:49 <MarcoFalke> Then do it via sendrawtx
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2402016-06-29T15:20:13 <paveljanik> right now, yes. But after removal?
2412016-06-29T15:21:12 <MarcoFalke> 7533 would make it such that you could overwrite it
2422016-06-29T15:21:50 <MarcoFalke> Instead of an infinite list of params you just pass a set
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2442016-06-29T15:34:50 <GitHub175> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #8288: qt: Network-specific example address (master...2016_06_network_based_example_address) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8288
2452016-06-29T15:36:32 <wumpus> voila
2462016-06-29T15:40:03 <paveljanik> FYI, github fixed the certificate on githubusercontent.com....
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2602016-06-29T16:41:43 <GitHub15> [bitcoin] roques opened pull request #8289: bash-completion: Adapt for 0.12 and 0.13 (master...completion) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8289
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2712016-06-29T17:46:16 <luke-jr> wumpus: what is your LC_COLLATE? :/
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3092016-06-29T21:32:00 <GitHub73> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #8291: [util] CopyrightHolders: Check for untranslated substitution (master...Mf1607-utilCopy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8291
3102016-06-29T21:37:16 <NicolasDorier> wumpus: I'm not sure the timeout comes from network code. It already happened to me before any connection were done. (ie, when I rebooted, during the block verification phase) I don't think we should bother though, I'm almost sure it happened to me on other projects, and I've not seen it happening without printtoconsole
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