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 32 2016-10-11T03:30:03  <luke-jr> to avoid risks of hardware consensus failures, perhaps nodes ought to publish fraud claims when their peers send them an invalid block, and then you can go back and check that block in software - thoughts?
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 51 2016-10-11T05:38:15  <TD-Linux> luke-jr, by hardware consensus are you referring to an alternate implementation of the consensus rules?
 52 2016-10-11T05:39:02  <luke-jr> TD-Linux: yes, for example implementing the EC verifications in FPGA
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 54 2016-10-11T05:41:21  <TD-Linux> luke-jr, is the purpose lower verification latency, or greater overall throughput? if it's the former, you could just run both in parallel and stop if they disagree (or disable the hardware)
 55 2016-10-11T05:42:58  <luke-jr> I guess it would have to be the latter, since latency over the network is high
 56 2016-10-11T05:44:09  <luke-jr> it would also possibly allow the current code to be the "hardware" and have an emulated fallback implementation for greater consensus-safety
 57 2016-10-11T05:44:35  <TD-Linux> how would you trust fraud claims from peers?
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 62 2016-10-11T06:14:31  <luke-jr> if it was okay, ban the peer
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370 2016-10-11T08:51:13  <GitHub24> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bf8e68aba68d...d0754799698d
371 2016-10-11T08:51:14  <GitHub24> bitcoin/master 6976db2 Suhas Daftuar: [qa] Another attempt to fix race condition in p2p-compactblocks.py...
372 2016-10-11T08:51:14  <GitHub24> bitcoin/master b55d941 Suhas Daftuar: [qa] Fix race condition in sendheaders.py...
373 2016-10-11T08:51:15  <GitHub24> bitcoin/master d075479 MarcoFalke: Merge #8882: [qa] Fix race conditions in p2p-compactblocks.py and sendheaders.py...
374 2016-10-11T08:51:28  <GitHub159> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #8882: [qa] Fix race conditions in p2p-compactblocks.py and sendheaders.py (master...fix-race-again) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8882
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382 2016-10-11T09:38:02  <GitHub135> [bitcoin] s-matthew-english opened pull request #8908: Update bitcoin-qt.desktop (master...patch-4) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8908
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385 2016-10-11T09:54:02  <GitHub27> [bitcoin] btcdrak opened pull request #8909: Change bundle identifiers (master...bc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8909
386 2016-10-11T09:55:53  <GitHub188> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 20 new commits to 0.13: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a916677ace1c...94688d8e43e7
387 2016-10-11T09:55:54  <GitHub188> bitcoin/0.13 375437c Johnson Lau: Ping regularly in p2p-segwit.py to keep connection alive...
388 2016-10-11T09:55:55  <GitHub188> bitcoin/0.13 9bbe66e Suhas Daftuar: [qa] Split up slow RPC calls to avoid pruning test timeouts...
389 2016-10-11T09:55:55  <GitHub8> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #8866: [0.13] Backports (0.13...Mf1610-013backp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8866
390 2016-10-11T09:55:55  <GitHub188> bitcoin/0.13 2a8bca4 jnewbery: Add bitcoin-tx JSON tests...
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396 2016-10-11T10:31:49  <jtimon> btw wumpus I forgot but I believe #8498 should be in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/6 too
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398 2016-10-11T10:48:05  <kanzure> cfields: see "Error code and correction for a new address type" in https://bitcoincore.org/logs/2016-05-zurich-meeting-notes.html
399 2016-10-11T10:49:39  <luke-jr> eh, cfields was there.. O.o
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401 2016-10-11T10:50:16  <kanzure> well maybe in another room
402 2016-10-11T10:50:51  <sipa> also, see https://github.com/sipa/ezbase32/blob/master/ezbase32.py#L5
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420 2016-10-11T11:49:57  <jtimon> regarding #8493, __tau__ suggested that "BlockIndexInterface is a bad name. In general avoid generic terms like Interface, every class is an interface. something like BlockIndexOperations would be better"
421 2016-10-11T11:50:07  <jtimon> thoughts? other ideas for a name?
422 2016-10-11T11:52:20  <gmaxwell> every interface performance operations. :P
423 2016-10-11T11:52:53  <luke-jr> only if you use it. *hides*
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425 2016-10-11T11:53:02  <jtimon> yeah, I guess operations is too generic as well
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429 2016-10-11T12:13:02  <btcdrak> jtimon: I prefer Interface suffix on interfaces.
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431 2016-10-11T12:35:37  <wumpus> what's wrong with Interface?
432 2016-10-11T12:36:04  <wumpus> it's a pretty standard term in almost any programming language for an abstract way to access certain operations
433 2016-10-11T12:36:35  <jtimon> ok, I'll leave Interface, I don't really care, the complain was that it was too generic
434 2016-10-11T12:36:53  <wumpus> it'd be too generatic if you call a class Interface { :-)
435 2016-10-11T12:37:07  <wumpus> if you suffix it to something it's clear imo
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455 2016-10-11T14:09:29  <jtimon> my conclusion from the little discussions we had on libconsensus: each person seems to want a different thing, and those who agree or have similar ideas want to see it happen in a different order
456 2016-10-11T14:10:40  <jtimon> for reducing our use of globals it seems to be a similar situation
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472 2016-10-11T15:29:02  <kanzure> jtimon: so which one gets priority
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474 2016-10-11T15:32:03  <jtimon> kanzure: good question
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477 2016-10-11T15:50:11  <GitHub90> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #8911: qt: Translate all files, even if wallet disabled (master...2016_10_qt_translations_wallet2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8911
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480 2016-10-11T16:11:43  <achow101> how close is 8499 to being merged?
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482 2016-10-11T16:16:48  <wumpus> someone just has to pull the trigger
483 2016-10-11T16:17:09  <btcdrak> achow101: still a couple of tests being written afaik
484 2016-10-11T16:18:10  <wumpus> not on that pull, IIRC
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487 2016-10-11T16:23:29  <achow101> btcdrak: aren't there already tests in that pull? Or are they not enough?
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494 2016-10-11T16:40:56  <wumpus> *112* comments on #8499, wow, people should really cut it with the offtopic discussion
495 2016-10-11T16:49:43  <wumpus> github is not suitable for winding discussions because it has no threaded format, just a linear one
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507 2016-10-11T19:18:03  <phantomcircuit> TD-Linux: you cant really get lower latency with an fpga anyways
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511 2016-10-11T19:36:44  <TD-Linux> phantomcircuit, indeed, but the idea is identical for any alternate implementation
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516 2016-10-11T20:07:41  <Chris_Stewart_5> You have to request the block header with a GetHeaders message after receiving notification of a new block on the p2p network, correct?
517 2016-10-11T20:16:06  <sipa> you can also use sendheaders
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520 2016-10-11T20:34:55  <Chris_Stewart_5> Thanks, just came across that
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