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  3 2017-02-18T00:17:57  <luke-jr> "Syncing Headers (%1%)…" <-- is this valid?
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  6 2017-02-18T00:36:16  <luke-jr> wumpus: is update-translations.py not giving you an assert in check_format_specifiers for zh_TW?
  7 2017-02-18T00:37:59  <cfields> achow101: we've got a mismatch on osx. rebuilding mine.
  8 2017-02-18T00:40:46  <achow101> cfields: ok. I'll run it again too. Are we still using the osx 10.11 sdk?
  9 2017-02-18T00:41:50  <cfields> achow101: yes. I suspect that we probably have different versions of the sdk.
 10 2017-02-18T00:42:13  <achow101> I've been using the same version of the sdk for a long time now
 11 2017-02-18T00:43:07  <cfields> achow101: ah, I was thinking it was bumped from 0.13, but it's not.
 12 2017-02-18T00:43:47  <achow101> so I don't need to re-run?
 13 2017-02-18T00:44:10  <cfields> achow101: let's both re-run and see what happens
 14 2017-02-18T00:44:17  <achow101> alright
 15 2017-02-18T00:44:26  <cfields> (unless it's inconvenient for you)
 16 2017-02-18T00:45:04  <achow101> no, it's fine, I can re-run it
 17 2017-02-18T00:55:40  <achow101> cfields: I got the same results
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 19 2017-02-18T00:57:12  <cfields> achow101: me too :(
 20 2017-02-18T00:57:31  <achow101> uh oh
 21 2017-02-18T00:57:55  <cfields> we need a 3rd builder...
 22 2017-02-18T00:58:13  <cfields> achow101: can you drop your bitcoin-0.14.0-osx64.tar.gz somewhere?
 23 2017-02-18T00:58:19  <achow101> sure
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 25 2017-02-18T01:00:18  <achow101> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxw3ip9QfNOUeVFSa0dyWTdHckU/view?usp=sharing
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 28 2017-02-18T01:02:34  <cfields> thank
 29 2017-02-18T01:02:35  <cfields> s
 30 2017-02-18T01:06:08  <cfields> achow101: http://pastebin.com/raw/ZTA5Hahi
 31 2017-02-18T01:06:21  <cfields> looks like there may be non-determinism there
 32 2017-02-18T01:08:19  <achow101> maybe it's caches?
 33 2017-02-18T01:10:28  <cfields> we both had empty caches this time
 34 2017-02-18T01:10:45  <cfields> Binary files bitcoin-0.14.0-me/bin/bitcoin-qt and bitcoin-0.14.0-achow/bin/bitcoin-qt differ
 35 2017-02-18T01:11:14  <cfields> will see if i can track it down. maybe something new in qt 5.7
 36 2017-02-18T01:20:21  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/12f46fa7d87d...50a226563cd8
 37 2017-02-18T01:20:21  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8e5cca0 Cory Fields: gitian: bump descriptors for master...
 38 2017-02-18T01:20:22  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 50a2265 MarcoFalke: Merge #9788: gitian: bump descriptors for master...
 39 2017-02-18T01:20:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #9788: gitian: bump descriptors for master (master...gitian-bump-0.15) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9788
 40 2017-02-18T01:34:17  <cfields> achow101: can you: find MacOSX10.11.sdk/ -type f -exec sha256sum {} >> sdk.sha256 \;
 41 2017-02-18T01:34:48  <cfields> in particular, i think we might have differing libobjc.A.tbd
 42 2017-02-18T01:36:17  <achow101> where should this file/folder be?
 43 2017-02-18T01:37:20  <cfields> achow101: don't worry about it, i'll just grab a fresh sdk and rule it out
 44 2017-02-18T01:37:48  <achow101> found it (i've never extracted the sdk tar before)
 45 2017-02-18T01:37:55  <luke-jr> isn't the SDK always different?
 46 2017-02-18T01:38:38  <luke-jr> I guess that's probably just the tar format
 47 2017-02-18T01:38:59  <achow101> this is the hash for libobjc.A.tbd: ef9438dc380ce92cf82538ef483fdbf96743b5f8907c752def4a6d922f822ec6
 48 2017-02-18T01:39:54  <cfields> achow101: damn, same
 49 2017-02-18T01:40:08  <cfields> luke-jr: yea, contents should be the same
 50 2017-02-18T01:41:34  <achow101> cfields: here's the link to the entire sdk.sha256 file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxw3ip9QfNOUWWtNb2Z6VC1hRXc/view?usp=sharing
 51 2017-02-18T01:46:10  <cfields> achow101: hmm, they match up
 52 2017-02-18T01:46:47  <cfields> ok, time to dig into hex/disasm
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 58 2017-02-18T02:13:04  <sipa> cfields: are there any locks protecting CAddrDB and CBanDB?
 59 2017-02-18T02:13:28  <sipa> DumpBanList or any of its callees never grab any locks
 60 2017-02-18T02:14:40  <sipa> ah, but it writes a copy
 61 2017-02-18T02:14:47  <cfields> sipa: it's only grabbed in Start() iirc
 62 2017-02-18T02:16:02  <sipa> less sure about DumpAddresses
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 65 2017-02-18T02:17:49  <sipa> ah, but addrman has its own lock
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 68 2017-02-18T02:35:14  <achow101> cfields: any luck?
 69 2017-02-18T02:36:38  <cfields> achow101: not yet
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 72 2017-02-18T03:09:07  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #9792: FastRandomContext improvements and switch to ChaCha20 (master...chacha) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9792
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 78 2017-02-18T03:37:08  <cfields> achow101: any chance you could grab the .o files from your gitian environment?
 79 2017-02-18T03:38:04  <gmaxwell> sipa: re random, seeding is a lot more of an interesting issue... that patch feels like sideways motion to me. sounds fine and all but doesn't obviously get rid of openssl.
 80 2017-02-18T03:42:25  <sipa> gmaxwell: sure... 1) make fastrandomcontext stronger 2) move some uses that now use getrandbytes to fastrandomcontexts 3) move everything else to a single secure RNG 4) make that single secure RNG not be OpenSSL
 81 2017-02-18T03:43:01  <sipa> when every use of the strong RNG reads from /dev/urandom etc, i feel we can avoid a lot of the complexity in it (gathering entropy etc)
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 83 2017-02-18T03:44:01  <sipa> s/gathering/background/
 84 2017-02-18T03:47:09  <achow101> cfields: I don't think so
 85 2017-02-18T03:47:25  <cfields> achow101: ok
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 88 2017-02-18T03:55:22  <gmaxwell> Making fastrandomcontext robust agaist VM restore, forward/backward prediction will make it slow.
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 90 2017-02-18T03:56:05  <sipa> gmaxwell: don't use fastrandomcontext in places where it needs to be robust
 91 2017-02-18T03:57:01  <sipa> we don't need VM robustness for determining the filename we temporarily write the addrman db to
 92 2017-02-18T03:57:09  <sipa> (which currently uses GetRandBytes)
 93 2017-02-18T04:00:13  <gmaxwell> We don't, I agree. But review what you just said above!
 94 2017-02-18T04:00:33  <sipa> 2) move *some* uses that now use getrandbytes to fastrandomcontexts
 95 2017-02-18T04:03:38  <gmaxwell> okay I looked through the usage of GetRand* and I'm less skeptical.
 96 2017-02-18T04:03:56  <gmaxwell> The ones where we need better properties we can use something fantastically slow.
 97 2017-02-18T04:05:12  <sipa> right, anything that constructs an actual secret key usually just runs once during the whole application (cache blinding keys, wallet keys, ...)
 98 2017-02-18T04:05:43  <sipa> for ping nonces i don't think that VM restores are that much of a deal
 99 2017-02-18T04:26:05  <cfields> sigh, best i can tell the linker is reordering some symbols
100 2017-02-18T04:26:29  <cfields> don't know how we could be running into that now and not before, though
101 2017-02-18T04:32:45  <achow101> it would be great if someone else could also do a gitian build :/
102 2017-02-18T04:33:03  <cfields> yea :(
103 2017-02-18T04:33:37  <cfields> I'm going to have to throw in the towel for tonight. I'll pick it up again tomorrow. Will be much easier with a third data point.
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110 2017-02-18T04:51:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kobake opened pull request #9793: Vs2015 wip (master...vs2015-wip) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9793
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112 2017-02-18T05:03:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kobake closed pull request #9793: Vs2015 wip (master...vs2015-wip) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9793
113 2017-02-18T05:13:46  <luke-jr> achow101: pushed my sigs
114 2017-02-18T05:14:09  <luke-jr> which match cfields's
115 2017-02-18T05:14:22  <achow101> :(
116 2017-02-18T05:14:30  <cfields> woohoo!
117 2017-02-18T05:15:59  <achow101> nuked cache and input (except for sdk). trying again
118 2017-02-18T05:16:20  <cfields> achow101: double-check your sdk? The only thing I can come up with other than ld64 constructing the indirect symbol table in a non-deterministic order, is that your sdk has a different stub which leads to a different layout
119 2017-02-18T05:16:42  <luke-jr> my guess would be something with his VM
120 2017-02-18T05:16:46  <cfields> luke-jr: thanks, btw
121 2017-02-18T05:16:53  <luke-jr> np, sorry I'm late
122 2017-02-18T05:17:15  <cfields> luke-jr: i'm not sure what could matter, other than filesystem or locale
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124 2017-02-18T05:17:19  <achow101> how do I check the sdk? I don't really have a way to get another one
125 2017-02-18T05:17:26  <cfields> but i'd think those would cause many issues, not just these
126 2017-02-18T05:17:32  <achow101> (short of someone sending me one)
127 2017-02-18T05:17:39  <cfields> achow101: the dump you gave me matches mine. Just make sure that's really the one you're using
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129 2017-02-18T05:18:00  <cfields> achow101: lxc or kvm?
130 2017-02-18T05:18:09  <achow101> kvm
131 2017-02-18T05:18:14  <cfields> ok
132 2017-02-18T05:18:16  * luke-jr is also KVM
133 2017-02-18T05:18:22  <cfields> yes, same
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135 2017-02-18T05:18:43  <achow101> lxc stopped working for me a long time ago. I still have an issue open somewhere about it
136 2017-02-18T05:20:02  <achow101> the sdk is definitely the same. my original and the one in inputs have the same sha256sum
137 2017-02-18T05:20:14  <fanquake> achow101 can you post the sha here?
138 2017-02-18T05:20:20  <achow101> 9f950cd715b58b0ae002ec47bf2fe7ed76857d4f7b0b3520ae2820082b3e41ce
139 2017-02-18T05:22:11  <fanquake> That's the sha256 of MacOSX10.11.sdk.tar.gz ?
140 2017-02-18T05:22:16  <achow101> yep
141 2017-02-18T05:22:25  <fanquake> Weirdly mine does not match.
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143 2017-02-18T05:22:53  <achow101> should it?
144 2017-02-18T05:22:55  <fanquake> I see 57a69e69bec23aa190b9ca50726df1ca8bc3d68d70094868211dcbeeb477db91
145 2017-02-18T05:23:46  <fanquake> I'll wait until my builds done. Should only be a few more minutes.
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147 2017-02-18T05:28:45  <luke-jr> fanquake: it doesn't normally match
148 2017-02-18T05:28:58  <luke-jr> MacOSX10.11.sdk.tar.gz is not itself typically deterministic because we make it on our own
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152 2017-02-18T05:33:58  <achow101> build finished, got the exact same results
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154 2017-02-18T05:40:48  <achow101> fanquake: your build done yet?
155 2017-02-18T05:41:24  <fanquake> achow101 yep, one sec.
156 2017-02-18T05:42:19  <fanquake> achow101 heh my osx sigs match yours.
157 2017-02-18T05:42:27  <fanquake> 8c42c1f996935fc0f2a13616d8b0f557594b23588e7781f72c9ebe53ef097cbd  bitcoin-0.14.0-osx-unsigned.dmg
158 2017-02-18T05:42:40  <achow101> well shit
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160 2017-02-18T05:45:22  <luke-jr> O.o
161 2017-02-18T05:45:49  <luke-jr> timezone?
162 2017-02-18T05:46:05  <achow101> how would that matter?
163 2017-02-18T05:46:45  <luke-jr> dunno, just guessing cfields and I are probably in the same one and you two might not be
164 2017-02-18T05:47:59  <achow101> could the version of gitian matter?
165 2017-02-18T05:48:14  <fanquake> Just PR'd my sigs, if you want to take look.
166 2017-02-18T05:48:33  <fanquake> Not sure about timezone. I'm using latest gitian.
167 2017-02-18T05:49:08  <achow101> I think I'm using the latest. hash: ad3f9cc4c2c8c0899961a366f5b9fbd1483b0ee3
168 2017-02-18T05:49:23  <fanquake> Building with VirtualBox on OS X. Basically using the build-guide in doc.
169 2017-02-18T05:49:42  <fanquake> Yep, same. "Merge #135: Fixes Debian jessie lxc-init path issue".
170 2017-02-18T05:49:43  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/135 | [mac os x] Crash on exit · Issue #135 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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172 2017-02-18T05:53:08  <luke-jr> I'm on ee1b69d Merge #122: Allow build to use sudo without a password, part deux
173 2017-02-18T05:53:10  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/122 | Spent per txout by sipa · Pull Request #122 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
174 2017-02-18T05:54:22  <achow101> oh well. I'm going to sleep now
175 2017-02-18T05:59:26  <luke-jr> night
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193 2017-02-18T07:43:12  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mitchellcash opened pull request #9794: Minor update to qrencode package builder (master...minor_depends_fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9794
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208 2017-02-18T09:22:29  <wumpus> luke-jr: I fixed that assertion problem recently
209 2017-02-18T09:22:46  <luke-jr> ?
210 2017-02-18T09:22:51  <luke-jr> oh
211 2017-02-18T09:23:21  <wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9735
212 2017-02-18T09:24:16  <luke-jr> thanks
213 2017-02-18T09:26:36  <wumpus> apparently my for gitian output for linux mismatches
214 2017-02-18T09:26:59  <wumpus> windows matches, and osx too (except for achow101)
215 2017-02-18T09:30:41  <wumpus> linux: looks like only the x86_64 output mismatches - aarch64, arm, i686 are the same
216 2017-02-18T09:32:20  <wumpus> cfields: your gitian assert package overview has "Reading package lists..." ""Building dependency tree..." apt command output in it
217 2017-02-18T09:34:12  <wumpus> my assert has *three* versions of g++-4.8 in it:g++-4.8_4.8.2-19ubuntu1_amd64.deb, g++-4.8_4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.1_amd64.deb, g++-4.8_4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.3_amd64.deb  ... that seems overkill
218 2017-02-18T09:35:24  <wumpus> that almost must be the problem, will try to clean it up
219 2017-02-18T09:35:36  <wumpus> the base image that is, not the assert file :)
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225 2017-02-18T10:32:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/50a226563cd8...8efd1c820b9a
226 2017-02-18T10:32:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a432aa0 Takashi Mitsuta: Remove unused module from rpc-tests
227 2017-02-18T10:32:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8efd1c8 MarcoFalke: Merge #9744: Remove unused module from rpc-tests...
228 2017-02-18T10:32:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #9744: Remove unused module from rpc-tests (master...remove-unused-modules-from-rpc-tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9744
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232 2017-02-18T11:00:02  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #9795: doc: Update manpages for master (laanwj) (master...Mf1602-docManMaster) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9795
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234 2017-02-18T11:14:06  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8efd1c820b9a...aa5fa642b0e7
235 2017-02-18T11:14:06  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0c9b9b7 practicalswift: [trivial] Fix recently introduced typos in comments
236 2017-02-18T11:14:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master aa5fa64 MarcoFalke: Merge #9696: [trivial] Fix recently introduced typos in comments...
237 2017-02-18T11:14:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #9696: [trivial] Fix recently introduced typos in comments (master...fix-recently-introduced-typos) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9696
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246 2017-02-18T13:09:35  <wumpus> ok, above gitian issue was solved by rebuildling with a new base image
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250 2017-02-18T14:30:37  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 6 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/aa5fa642b0e7...7ff4a538a868
251 2017-02-18T14:30:38  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1581ecb John Newbery: Use configparser in rpc-tests.py...
252 2017-02-18T14:30:38  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 91bffff John Newbery: Use argparse in rpc_tests.py...
253 2017-02-18T14:30:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master afd38e7 John Newbery: Improve rpc-tests.py arguments...
254 2017-02-18T14:30:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #9657: Improve rpc-tests.py (master...improvepytests2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9657
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256 2017-02-18T14:54:02  <cfields> wumpus: so your sigs match mine now?
257 2017-02-18T14:54:48  <achow101> I'm going to be away from my build computer today so I won't be able to help
258 2017-02-18T14:56:14  <cfields> ok
259 2017-02-18T14:56:35  <cfields> i guess if we have 3 matches we can go with that one, but we really need to figure out why we're getting 2 different results
260 2017-02-18T14:57:42  <achow101> I tried remaking the base vm and rebuilding before I left but I was having issues with making it
261 2017-02-18T14:59:42  <cfields> achow101: thanks for trying
262 2017-02-18T15:02:32  <cfields> wumpus: please confirm if you'd like me to go ahead and push the sigs for the one we've got. the fact that achow101 and fanquake have matching mismatches for osx is a bit worrisome
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268 2017-02-18T15:28:00  <MarcoFalke> "matching mismatches", heh.
269 2017-02-18T15:28:15  <MarcoFalke> going to run the osx gitian, lets see what my result is...
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278 2017-02-18T16:40:59  <cfields> ok, i'm going to go ahead and push
279 2017-02-18T16:41:39  <cfields> we need to try to figure out what the discrepancy is before rc2, though
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281 2017-02-18T16:59:14  <cfields> gitian builders: detached osx/win sigs for 0.14.0rc1 pushed.
282 2017-02-18T17:00:01  <cfields> achow101 / fanquake: not sure what to tell you yet, i'll keep trying to get it pinned down
283 2017-02-18T17:29:16  <wumpus> cfields: yes, let's try to continue. It's strange that macosx apparently isn't determinstic, but that's no reason to not go on with the other platforms for rc1
284 2017-02-18T17:29:32  <wumpus> would be nice to sort this out before final, of course
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302 2017-02-18T23:02:55  <luke-jr> thoughts on a GUI screen showing what #bitcoin-watch used to? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin-Watch
303 2017-02-18T23:03:03  <luke-jr> (minus the trade info I guess)
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