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32017-02-18T00:17:57 <luke-jr> "Syncing Headers (%1%)â¦" <-- is this valid?
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62017-02-18T00:36:16 <luke-jr> wumpus: is update-translations.py not giving you an assert in check_format_specifiers for zh_TW?
72017-02-18T00:37:59 <cfields> achow101: we've got a mismatch on osx. rebuilding mine.
82017-02-18T00:40:46 <achow101> cfields: ok. I'll run it again too. Are we still using the osx 10.11 sdk?
92017-02-18T00:41:50 <cfields> achow101: yes. I suspect that we probably have different versions of the sdk.
102017-02-18T00:42:13 <achow101> I've been using the same version of the sdk for a long time now
112017-02-18T00:43:07 <cfields> achow101: ah, I was thinking it was bumped from 0.13, but it's not.
122017-02-18T00:43:47 <achow101> so I don't need to re-run?
132017-02-18T00:44:10 <cfields> achow101: let's both re-run and see what happens
142017-02-18T00:44:17 <achow101> alright
152017-02-18T00:44:26 <cfields> (unless it's inconvenient for you)
162017-02-18T00:45:04 <achow101> no, it's fine, I can re-run it
172017-02-18T00:55:40 <achow101> cfields: I got the same results
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192017-02-18T00:57:12 <cfields> achow101: me too :(
202017-02-18T00:57:31 <achow101> uh oh
212017-02-18T00:57:55 <cfields> we need a 3rd builder...
222017-02-18T00:58:13 <cfields> achow101: can you drop your bitcoin-0.14.0-osx64.tar.gz somewhere?
232017-02-18T00:58:19 <achow101> sure
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252017-02-18T01:00:18 <achow101> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxw3ip9QfNOUeVFSa0dyWTdHckU/view?usp=sharing
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282017-02-18T01:02:34 <cfields> thank
292017-02-18T01:02:35 <cfields> s
302017-02-18T01:06:08 <cfields> achow101: http://pastebin.com/raw/ZTA5Hahi
312017-02-18T01:06:21 <cfields> looks like there may be non-determinism there
322017-02-18T01:08:19 <achow101> maybe it's caches?
332017-02-18T01:10:28 <cfields> we both had empty caches this time
342017-02-18T01:10:45 <cfields> Binary files bitcoin-0.14.0-me/bin/bitcoin-qt and bitcoin-0.14.0-achow/bin/bitcoin-qt differ
352017-02-18T01:11:14 <cfields> will see if i can track it down. maybe something new in qt 5.7
362017-02-18T01:20:21 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/12f46fa7d87d...50a226563cd8
372017-02-18T01:20:21 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8e5cca0 Cory Fields: gitian: bump descriptors for master...
382017-02-18T01:20:22 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 50a2265 MarcoFalke: Merge #9788: gitian: bump descriptors for master...
392017-02-18T01:20:42 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #9788: gitian: bump descriptors for master (master...gitian-bump-0.15) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9788
402017-02-18T01:34:17 <cfields> achow101: can you: find MacOSX10.11.sdk/ -type f -exec sha256sum {} >> sdk.sha256 \;
412017-02-18T01:34:48 <cfields> in particular, i think we might have differing libobjc.A.tbd
422017-02-18T01:36:17 <achow101> where should this file/folder be?
432017-02-18T01:37:20 <cfields> achow101: don't worry about it, i'll just grab a fresh sdk and rule it out
442017-02-18T01:37:48 <achow101> found it (i've never extracted the sdk tar before)
452017-02-18T01:37:55 <luke-jr> isn't the SDK always different?
462017-02-18T01:38:38 <luke-jr> I guess that's probably just the tar format
472017-02-18T01:38:59 <achow101> this is the hash for libobjc.A.tbd: ef9438dc380ce92cf82538ef483fdbf96743b5f8907c752def4a6d922f822ec6
482017-02-18T01:39:54 <cfields> achow101: damn, same
492017-02-18T01:40:08 <cfields> luke-jr: yea, contents should be the same
502017-02-18T01:41:34 <achow101> cfields: here's the link to the entire sdk.sha256 file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bxw3ip9QfNOUWWtNb2Z6VC1hRXc/view?usp=sharing
512017-02-18T01:46:10 <cfields> achow101: hmm, they match up
522017-02-18T01:46:47 <cfields> ok, time to dig into hex/disasm
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582017-02-18T02:13:04 <sipa> cfields: are there any locks protecting CAddrDB and CBanDB?
592017-02-18T02:13:28 <sipa> DumpBanList or any of its callees never grab any locks
602017-02-18T02:14:40 <sipa> ah, but it writes a copy
612017-02-18T02:14:47 <cfields> sipa: it's only grabbed in Start() iirc
622017-02-18T02:16:02 <sipa> less sure about DumpAddresses
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652017-02-18T02:17:49 <sipa> ah, but addrman has its own lock
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682017-02-18T02:35:14 <achow101> cfields: any luck?
692017-02-18T02:36:38 <cfields> achow101: not yet
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722017-02-18T03:09:07 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #9792: FastRandomContext improvements and switch to ChaCha20 (master...chacha) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9792
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782017-02-18T03:37:08 <cfields> achow101: any chance you could grab the .o files from your gitian environment?
792017-02-18T03:38:04 <gmaxwell> sipa: re random, seeding is a lot more of an interesting issue... that patch feels like sideways motion to me. sounds fine and all but doesn't obviously get rid of openssl.
802017-02-18T03:42:25 <sipa> gmaxwell: sure... 1) make fastrandomcontext stronger 2) move some uses that now use getrandbytes to fastrandomcontexts 3) move everything else to a single secure RNG 4) make that single secure RNG not be OpenSSL
812017-02-18T03:43:01 <sipa> when every use of the strong RNG reads from /dev/urandom etc, i feel we can avoid a lot of the complexity in it (gathering entropy etc)
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832017-02-18T03:44:01 <sipa> s/gathering/background/
842017-02-18T03:47:09 <achow101> cfields: I don't think so
852017-02-18T03:47:25 <cfields> achow101: ok
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882017-02-18T03:55:22 <gmaxwell> Making fastrandomcontext robust agaist VM restore, forward/backward prediction will make it slow.
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902017-02-18T03:56:05 <sipa> gmaxwell: don't use fastrandomcontext in places where it needs to be robust
912017-02-18T03:57:01 <sipa> we don't need VM robustness for determining the filename we temporarily write the addrman db to
922017-02-18T03:57:09 <sipa> (which currently uses GetRandBytes)
932017-02-18T04:00:13 <gmaxwell> We don't, I agree. But review what you just said above!
942017-02-18T04:00:33 <sipa> 2) move *some* uses that now use getrandbytes to fastrandomcontexts
952017-02-18T04:03:38 <gmaxwell> okay I looked through the usage of GetRand* and I'm less skeptical.
962017-02-18T04:03:56 <gmaxwell> The ones where we need better properties we can use something fantastically slow.
972017-02-18T04:05:12 <sipa> right, anything that constructs an actual secret key usually just runs once during the whole application (cache blinding keys, wallet keys, ...)
982017-02-18T04:05:43 <sipa> for ping nonces i don't think that VM restores are that much of a deal
992017-02-18T04:26:05 <cfields> sigh, best i can tell the linker is reordering some symbols
1002017-02-18T04:26:29 <cfields> don't know how we could be running into that now and not before, though
1012017-02-18T04:32:45 <achow101> it would be great if someone else could also do a gitian build :/
1022017-02-18T04:33:03 <cfields> yea :(
1032017-02-18T04:33:37 <cfields> I'm going to have to throw in the towel for tonight. I'll pick it up again tomorrow. Will be much easier with a third data point.
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1102017-02-18T04:51:04 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kobake opened pull request #9793: Vs2015 wip (master...vs2015-wip) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9793
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1122017-02-18T05:03:20 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kobake closed pull request #9793: Vs2015 wip (master...vs2015-wip) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9793
1132017-02-18T05:13:46 <luke-jr> achow101: pushed my sigs
1142017-02-18T05:14:09 <luke-jr> which match cfields's
1152017-02-18T05:14:22 <achow101> :(
1162017-02-18T05:14:30 <cfields> woohoo!
1172017-02-18T05:15:59 <achow101> nuked cache and input (except for sdk). trying again
1182017-02-18T05:16:20 <cfields> achow101: double-check your sdk? The only thing I can come up with other than ld64 constructing the indirect symbol table in a non-deterministic order, is that your sdk has a different stub which leads to a different layout
1192017-02-18T05:16:42 <luke-jr> my guess would be something with his VM
1202017-02-18T05:16:46 <cfields> luke-jr: thanks, btw
1212017-02-18T05:16:53 <luke-jr> np, sorry I'm late
1222017-02-18T05:17:15 <cfields> luke-jr: i'm not sure what could matter, other than filesystem or locale
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1242017-02-18T05:17:19 <achow101> how do I check the sdk? I don't really have a way to get another one
1252017-02-18T05:17:26 <cfields> but i'd think those would cause many issues, not just these
1262017-02-18T05:17:32 <achow101> (short of someone sending me one)
1272017-02-18T05:17:39 <cfields> achow101: the dump you gave me matches mine. Just make sure that's really the one you're using
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1292017-02-18T05:18:00 <cfields> achow101: lxc or kvm?
1302017-02-18T05:18:09 <achow101> kvm
1312017-02-18T05:18:14 <cfields> ok
1322017-02-18T05:18:16 * luke-jr is also KVM
1332017-02-18T05:18:22 <cfields> yes, same
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1352017-02-18T05:18:43 <achow101> lxc stopped working for me a long time ago. I still have an issue open somewhere about it
1362017-02-18T05:20:02 <achow101> the sdk is definitely the same. my original and the one in inputs have the same sha256sum
1372017-02-18T05:20:14 <fanquake> achow101 can you post the sha here?
1382017-02-18T05:20:20 <achow101> 9f950cd715b58b0ae002ec47bf2fe7ed76857d4f7b0b3520ae2820082b3e41ce
1392017-02-18T05:22:11 <fanquake> That's the sha256 of MacOSX10.11.sdk.tar.gz ?
1402017-02-18T05:22:16 <achow101> yep
1412017-02-18T05:22:25 <fanquake> Weirdly mine does not match.
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1432017-02-18T05:22:53 <achow101> should it?
1442017-02-18T05:22:55 <fanquake> I see 57a69e69bec23aa190b9ca50726df1ca8bc3d68d70094868211dcbeeb477db91
1452017-02-18T05:23:46 <fanquake> I'll wait until my builds done. Should only be a few more minutes.
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1472017-02-18T05:28:45 <luke-jr> fanquake: it doesn't normally match
1482017-02-18T05:28:58 <luke-jr> MacOSX10.11.sdk.tar.gz is not itself typically deterministic because we make it on our own
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1522017-02-18T05:33:58 <achow101> build finished, got the exact same results
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1542017-02-18T05:40:48 <achow101> fanquake: your build done yet?
1552017-02-18T05:41:24 <fanquake> achow101 yep, one sec.
1562017-02-18T05:42:19 <fanquake> achow101 heh my osx sigs match yours.
1572017-02-18T05:42:27 <fanquake> 8c42c1f996935fc0f2a13616d8b0f557594b23588e7781f72c9ebe53ef097cbd bitcoin-0.14.0-osx-unsigned.dmg
1582017-02-18T05:42:40 <achow101> well shit
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1602017-02-18T05:45:22 <luke-jr> O.o
1612017-02-18T05:45:49 <luke-jr> timezone?
1622017-02-18T05:46:05 <achow101> how would that matter?
1632017-02-18T05:46:45 <luke-jr> dunno, just guessing cfields and I are probably in the same one and you two might not be
1642017-02-18T05:47:59 <achow101> could the version of gitian matter?
1652017-02-18T05:48:14 <fanquake> Just PR'd my sigs, if you want to take look.
1662017-02-18T05:48:33 <fanquake> Not sure about timezone. I'm using latest gitian.
1672017-02-18T05:49:08 <achow101> I think I'm using the latest. hash: ad3f9cc4c2c8c0899961a366f5b9fbd1483b0ee3
1682017-02-18T05:49:23 <fanquake> Building with VirtualBox on OS X. Basically using the build-guide in doc.
1692017-02-18T05:49:42 <fanquake> Yep, same. "Merge #135: Fixes Debian jessie lxc-init path issue".
1702017-02-18T05:49:43 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/135 | [mac os x] Crash on exit · Issue #135 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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1722017-02-18T05:53:08 <luke-jr> I'm on ee1b69d Merge #122: Allow build to use sudo without a password, part deux
1732017-02-18T05:53:10 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/122 | Spent per txout by sipa · Pull Request #122 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1742017-02-18T05:54:22 <achow101> oh well. I'm going to sleep now
1752017-02-18T05:59:26 <luke-jr> night
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1932017-02-18T07:43:12 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mitchellcash opened pull request #9794: Minor update to qrencode package builder (master...minor_depends_fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9794
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2082017-02-18T09:22:29 <wumpus> luke-jr: I fixed that assertion problem recently
2092017-02-18T09:22:46 <luke-jr> ?
2102017-02-18T09:22:51 <luke-jr> oh
2112017-02-18T09:23:21 <wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9735
2122017-02-18T09:24:16 <luke-jr> thanks
2132017-02-18T09:26:36 <wumpus> apparently my for gitian output for linux mismatches
2142017-02-18T09:26:59 <wumpus> windows matches, and osx too (except for achow101)
2152017-02-18T09:30:41 <wumpus> linux: looks like only the x86_64 output mismatches - aarch64, arm, i686 are the same
2162017-02-18T09:32:20 <wumpus> cfields: your gitian assert package overview has "Reading package lists..." ""Building dependency tree..." apt command output in it
2172017-02-18T09:34:12 <wumpus> my assert has *three* versions of g++-4.8 in it:g++-4.8_4.8.2-19ubuntu1_amd64.deb, g++-4.8_4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.1_amd64.deb, g++-4.8_4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.3_amd64.deb ... that seems overkill
2182017-02-18T09:35:24 <wumpus> that almost must be the problem, will try to clean it up
2192017-02-18T09:35:36 <wumpus> the base image that is, not the assert file :)
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2252017-02-18T10:32:29 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/50a226563cd8...8efd1c820b9a
2262017-02-18T10:32:30 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a432aa0 Takashi Mitsuta: Remove unused module from rpc-tests
2272017-02-18T10:32:30 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8efd1c8 MarcoFalke: Merge #9744: Remove unused module from rpc-tests...
2282017-02-18T10:32:49 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #9744: Remove unused module from rpc-tests (master...remove-unused-modules-from-rpc-tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9744
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2322017-02-18T11:00:02 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #9795: doc: Update manpages for master (laanwj) (master...Mf1602-docManMaster) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9795
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2342017-02-18T11:14:06 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8efd1c820b9a...aa5fa642b0e7
2352017-02-18T11:14:06 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0c9b9b7 practicalswift: [trivial] Fix recently introduced typos in comments
2362017-02-18T11:14:07 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master aa5fa64 MarcoFalke: Merge #9696: [trivial] Fix recently introduced typos in comments...
2372017-02-18T11:14:29 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #9696: [trivial] Fix recently introduced typos in comments (master...fix-recently-introduced-typos) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9696
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2462017-02-18T13:09:35 <wumpus> ok, above gitian issue was solved by rebuildling with a new base image
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2502017-02-18T14:30:37 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 6 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/aa5fa642b0e7...7ff4a538a868
2512017-02-18T14:30:38 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1581ecb John Newbery: Use configparser in rpc-tests.py...
2522017-02-18T14:30:38 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 91bffff John Newbery: Use argparse in rpc_tests.py...
2532017-02-18T14:30:39 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master afd38e7 John Newbery: Improve rpc-tests.py arguments...
2542017-02-18T14:30:51 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #9657: Improve rpc-tests.py (master...improvepytests2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9657
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2562017-02-18T14:54:02 <cfields> wumpus: so your sigs match mine now?
2572017-02-18T14:54:48 <achow101> I'm going to be away from my build computer today so I won't be able to help
2582017-02-18T14:56:14 <cfields> ok
2592017-02-18T14:56:35 <cfields> i guess if we have 3 matches we can go with that one, but we really need to figure out why we're getting 2 different results
2602017-02-18T14:57:42 <achow101> I tried remaking the base vm and rebuilding before I left but I was having issues with making it
2612017-02-18T14:59:42 <cfields> achow101: thanks for trying
2622017-02-18T15:02:32 <cfields> wumpus: please confirm if you'd like me to go ahead and push the sigs for the one we've got. the fact that achow101 and fanquake have matching mismatches for osx is a bit worrisome
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2682017-02-18T15:28:00 <MarcoFalke> "matching mismatches", heh.
2692017-02-18T15:28:15 <MarcoFalke> going to run the osx gitian, lets see what my result is...
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2782017-02-18T16:40:59 <cfields> ok, i'm going to go ahead and push
2792017-02-18T16:41:39 <cfields> we need to try to figure out what the discrepancy is before rc2, though
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2812017-02-18T16:59:14 <cfields> gitian builders: detached osx/win sigs for 0.14.0rc1 pushed.
2822017-02-18T17:00:01 <cfields> achow101 / fanquake: not sure what to tell you yet, i'll keep trying to get it pinned down
2832017-02-18T17:29:16 <wumpus> cfields: yes, let's try to continue. It's strange that macosx apparently isn't determinstic, but that's no reason to not go on with the other platforms for rc1
2842017-02-18T17:29:32 <wumpus> would be nice to sort this out before final, of course
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3022017-02-18T23:02:55 <luke-jr> thoughts on a GUI screen showing what #bitcoin-watch used to? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin-Watch
3032017-02-18T23:03:03 <luke-jr> (minus the trade info I guess)
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