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  2 2017-03-01T00:12:37  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] CryptoManiac opened pull request #9893: [RPC] Just an attemt to save some bandwidth (master...rpc_gzip) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9893
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  5 2017-03-01T00:20:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] instagibbs opened pull request #9894: remove 'label' filter for rpc command help (master...filterrpc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9894
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 11 2017-03-01T00:49:03  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] CryptoManiac closed pull request #9893: [RPC] Just an attemt to save some bandwidth (master...rpc_gzip) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9893
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 32 2017-03-01T01:39:40  <phantomcircuit> wumpus, is there anything blocking 8704 ?
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 34 2017-03-01T01:42:00  <BlueMatt> phantomcircuit: yes, lack of review
 35 2017-03-01T01:43:34  <phantomcircuit> i can fix that
 36 2017-03-01T01:43:40  <BlueMatt> not by yourself
 37 2017-03-01T01:44:02  <phantomcircuit> BlueMatt, plz review 8704
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 47 2017-03-01T02:04:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] benma opened pull request #9895: Turn TryCreateDirectory() into TryCreateDirectories() (master...appinitmain) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9895
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 51 2017-03-01T02:17:15  <phantomcircuit> BlueMatt, you think 8704 needs an rpc test?
 52 2017-03-01T02:17:30  <BlueMatt> probs
 53 2017-03-01T02:17:46  <phantomcircuit> im thinking it doesn't beyond something that tests for true/false and 0/1/2 all not returning an error
 54 2017-03-01T02:18:02  <phantomcircuit> like not something that checks the output more than it's being checked already
 55 2017-03-01T02:18:27  <BlueMatt> i dunno i havent looked at it
 56 2017-03-01T02:19:26  <phantomcircuit> the only thing crazy about it is that it's allowing the second parameter to be any of
 57 2017-03-01T02:19:29  <phantomcircuit> true/false/0/1/2
 58 2017-03-01T02:19:54  <phantomcircuit> iono
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 65 2017-03-01T02:27:38  <luke-jr> phantomcircuit: 3+ are valid too IIRC? :P
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 67 2017-03-01T02:30:15  <phantomcircuit> luke-jr, true
 68 2017-03-01T02:30:20  <phantomcircuit> but maybe it shouldnt be?
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 70 2017-03-01T02:32:26  * luke-jr shrugs
 71 2017-03-01T02:32:54  <luke-jr> some day we'll wish we did what I originally suggested with {"block": "description level", "txn": "description level"} ;)
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 73 2017-03-01T02:33:09  <luke-jr> (back in 2012 or something, dead and buried topic now)
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 76 2017-03-01T02:38:50  <phantomcircuit> luke-jr, description level?
 77 2017-03-01T02:39:05  <phantomcircuit> oh you mean so you can specify how verbose you want an individual transaction to be?
 78 2017-03-01T02:40:38  <luke-jr> phantomcircuit: iirc it was either "hex" or "object". maybe one other option I forget
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102 2017-03-01T05:28:20  <cfields> wumpus: for backlog, i re-ran my gitian build until my results matched yours and jonasschnelli's. I've submitted a PR to (I belive) fix the determinism issue. See #9891.
103 2017-03-01T05:28:21  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9891 | depends: make osx output deterministic by theuni · Pull Request #9891 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
104 2017-03-01T05:29:25  <cfields> Since everyone is getting one of those two results, I'm going to go ahead and push sigs for one of them. fanquake/achow101, You guys should be able to build a few times and eventually get the same result. Sorry :(. Got to choose one of 'em.
105 2017-03-01T05:32:14  <sipa> cfields: so you suggest we don't do an rc4 but instead iterate building until everyone matches?
106 2017-03-01T05:32:54  <achow101> cfields: which hash are you using?
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108 2017-03-01T05:33:27  <cfields> sipa: since everyone's getting one of two results, and that's been the case ever since rc1, I have no problem with calling it deterministic-ish
109 2017-03-01T05:33:48  <cfields> sipa: granted, I'd feel much better with confirmation that 9891 actually fixes the issue.
110 2017-03-01T05:34:56  <cfields> achow101: !Hash(achow101)
111 2017-03-01T05:35:09  <achow101> cfields: I can probably have my machine just run the build 50 times with 9891 applied and see what the results are
112 2017-03-01T05:35:22  <achow101> which hash? I got both of them.
113 2017-03-01T05:35:27  <cfields> oh, heh
114 2017-03-01T05:35:28  <achow101> both are "mine"
115 2017-03-01T05:35:56  <cfields> achow101: 05edd35d4b119ec92ecedde3b2da6a69078161741421da8ed039908a8e223405
116 2017-03-01T05:36:09  <cfields> achow101: yea, that would be fantastic if you could
117 2017-03-01T05:37:30  <sipa> cfields: demideterminstic :)
118 2017-03-01T05:37:50  <cfields> achow101: see the commit message. I managed to produce differing results while manually hammering ld over and over. The change fixed it for me. If I found the right issue, it's basically tied to the amount of cpu's in your machine
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120 2017-03-01T05:38:29  <cfields> achow101: it was a social engineering trick to find out what hardware everyone's running. The fact that I always got the same result is sad for me, i guess :)
121 2017-03-01T05:38:41  <cfields> sipa: hah
122 2017-03-01T05:39:08  <achow101> cfields: so you have hardware with less cpu :)
123 2017-03-01T05:40:35  <cfields> achow101: it's not the size of the cpu, it's the tdp...
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127 2017-03-01T05:42:45  <cfields> achow101: obviously if you build a branch with that commit you won't match either result, but as long as it's self-consistent, that's enough
128 2017-03-01T05:44:31  <achow101> ok. I'll pull it into another branch and just run it overnight and see what the results are
129 2017-03-01T05:44:59  <cfields> achow101: that would be really helpful. Thanks!
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132 2017-03-01T05:57:27  <cfields> gitian builders: detached sigs for 0.14.0rc3 have been pushed. Note that there are 2 possible build results for osx. A PR has been submitted to (hopefully) fix that.
133 2017-03-01T05:57:46  <cfields> just repeating in case anyone missed the above. Headed to bed, nnite.
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138 2017-03-01T06:02:18  <fanquake> cfields nice job figuring that out!
139 2017-03-01T06:03:55  <luke-jr> ^ +1
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158 2017-03-01T07:03:09  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] benma opened pull request #9897: AppInitMain: split initialization of Connman into a new function (master...connman) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9897
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177 2017-03-01T08:26:21  * luke-jr wonders which signed OSX actually verifies
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184 2017-03-01T09:04:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/11049f4fe626...be8ba2cfa44a
185 2017-03-01T09:04:11  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa89670 Pieter Wuille: Add SHA512 tree hash to merge commits
186 2017-03-01T09:04:11  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master be8ba2c Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #9871: Add a tree sha512 hash to merge commits...
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188 2017-03-01T09:04:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #9871: Add a tree sha512 hash to merge commits (master...merge_sha512) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9871
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190 2017-03-01T09:10:35  <wumpus> cfields: thanks!
191 2017-03-01T09:10:57  <wumpus> rc3 executables up: https://bitcoin.org/bin/bitcoin-core-0.14.0/test.rc3/
192 2017-03-01T09:12:52  <wumpus> should probably send a notification to the mailing list this time
193 2017-03-01T09:16:12  <wumpus> for rc2 I didn't bother as there was a critical issue so soon after tagging it
194 2017-03-01T09:25:54  <luke-jr> I assume we'll have a rc4 with the determinism fixed (and ideally manpages too)?
195 2017-03-01T09:26:43  <wumpus> just fixing the determinism doesn't require a rc4 imo, as it just normalizes what some gitian builders were already doing
196 2017-03-01T09:27:19  <wumpus> not sure what you mean about manpages, is there an issue open about that?
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199 2017-03-01T09:30:37  <wumpus> anyhow if no new critical issues come up with rc3 I'd be strongly for marking it 0.14.0 final
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201 2017-03-01T09:34:59  <wumpus> we've spend too much work crunching to fix issues last minute for this release, and we can almost make the projected March 1 release date, it'd be a waste to let it slip on small issues
202 2017-03-01T09:38:20  <wumpus> I mean the network issues were looking quite hopeless at some point and we managed to squash them all in time, that's neat
203 2017-03-01T09:39:45  <luke-jr> wumpus: I mean #9892, not a huge thing
204 2017-03-01T09:39:46  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9892 | Bugfix: Only install manpages for built programs by luke-jr · Pull Request #9892 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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206 2017-03-01T09:42:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/be8ba2cfa44a...3fabae742567
207 2017-03-01T09:42:22  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9e4d842 Cory Fields: depends: make osx output deterministic...
208 2017-03-01T09:42:23  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3fabae7 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #9891: depends: make osx output deterministic...
209 2017-03-01T09:42:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #9891: depends: make osx output deterministic (master...fix-osx-link-determinism) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9891
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211 2017-03-01T09:42:57  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.14: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/eff783a0fe7b9eaaba9eef6539bdf0f62ce9f07e
212 2017-03-01T09:42:57  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.14 eff783a Cory Fields: depends: make osx output deterministic...
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215 2017-03-01T09:47:39  <wumpus> luke-jr: indeed it's not, just a makefile change and only affecting the selection of files to be installed at that - it will have zero influence on the packages as there we install everything. seems like something we can slip in without a new rc
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232 2017-03-01T11:22:39  <wumpus> things are never simple are they... https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9898
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234 2017-03-01T11:25:50  <luke-jr> :<
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238 2017-03-01T11:34:37  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.14: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/a80dc94554e7ec9ea810ce341ac7b5ad3fd66a88
239 2017-03-01T11:34:38  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.14 a80dc94 Luke Dashjr: Bugfix: Only install manpages for built programs...
240 2017-03-01T11:38:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1ce7ec2a4f28...cbdb4732f10c
241 2017-03-01T11:38:23  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 48faf0b Pieter Wuille: Abstract out BlockAssembler options
242 2017-03-01T11:38:23  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 277b472 Pieter Wuille: Run miner_tests with fixed options
243 2017-03-01T11:38:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cbdb473 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #9868: Abstract out the command line options for block assembly...
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245 2017-03-01T11:38:47  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #9868: Abstract out the command line options for block assembly (master...assembleroptions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9868
246 2017-03-01T11:42:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 5 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cbdb4732f10c...d19d45a1e6a4
247 2017-03-01T11:42:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 224e6eb Wladimir J. van der Laan: util: Specific GetOSRandom for Linux/FreeBSD/OpenBSD...
248 2017-03-01T11:42:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master aa09ccb Wladimir J. van der Laan: squashme: comment that NUM_OS_RANDOM_BYTES should not be changed lightly
249 2017-03-01T11:42:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7cad849 Wladimir J. van der Laan: sanity: Move OS random to sanity check function...
250 2017-03-01T11:42:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #9821: util: Specific GetOSRandom for Linux/FreeBSD/OpenBSD (master...2017_02_osrandom) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9821
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255 2017-03-01T12:18:32  <cfields> wumpus: heh.. i wonder if that's somehow related to travis and the aws outage
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257 2017-03-01T12:19:01  <cfields> considering that travis was happy with it in the PR, and gitian builds are fine
258 2017-03-01T12:19:22  <wumpus> yes exactly, the PR was fine
259 2017-03-01T12:19:45  <wumpus> is the qt compilation somehow dependent on the architecture it's compiled on? (would be unlikely, but ok)
260 2017-03-01T12:20:16  <wumpus> I don't understand where the avr mess suddenly comes from. Could also be that trusty updated their compiler/toolchains
261 2017-03-01T12:20:25  <wumpus> avx*
262 2017-03-01T12:20:34  <cfields> wumpus: yea, it does cpu detection, and there were bugs up until 5.8 about using the wrong toolchain for that
263 2017-03-01T12:21:06  <wumpus> I hope we override the cpu detection for gitian, at least?
264 2017-03-01T12:21:13  <cfields> wumpus: not saying that's the cause for sure, only that it's possible
265 2017-03-01T12:21:58  <wumpus> ...I'm sure we do already, otherwise we'd have different gitian results based on the CPU it's compiled on
266 2017-03-01T12:22:32  <cfields> wumpus: the tests are just for what extensions (intrinsics) the compiler understands, they're still tested at runtime regardless
267 2017-03-01T12:22:56  <wumpus> ohh it checks what the compiler understands, not what the cpu understands
268 2017-03-01T12:23:03  <wumpus> yes, thanks, that makes it seem sane again :)
269 2017-03-01T12:23:08  <cfields> right
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271 2017-03-01T12:24:20  <wumpus> I imagining something like -march=native, that would be a good way to mess up gitian determinism
272 2017-03-01T12:24:30  <cfields> (i can't see the travis log now, it won't load. that's why i'm just speculating instead of trying to fix it :)
273 2017-03-01T12:24:47  <cfields> ah, heh
274 2017-03-01T12:28:46  <cfields> grr... is 1/2 of the net still down due to aws? Or travis just backlogged and wonky?
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280 2017-03-01T13:03:08  <cfields> wumpus: ooh, i see. Those are just configure checks. They're supposed to fail. The error there was just that the build took too long.
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282 2017-03-01T13:04:31  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #9899: Add jonasschnellis new NIST-P 256 signing key (master...2017/03/key) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9899
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303 2017-03-01T13:42:47  <achow101> cfields: it looks deterministic. All 50 builds resulted in the same hash
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307 2017-03-01T13:44:05  <cfields> achow101: great news, thanks for testing!
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367 2017-03-01T18:53:28  <cfields> BlueMatt: have you been able to reproduce your qt crash at all?
368 2017-03-01T18:53:39  <BlueMatt> not since that night
369 2017-03-01T18:54:37  <cfields> BlueMatt: and you didn't have any tx's that had confirmed within ~a day?
370 2017-03-01T18:55:08  <gmaxwell> what a bizarre question.
371 2017-03-01T18:55:10  <BlueMatt> no, no relevant txn at all
372 2017-03-01T18:55:33  <cfields> gmaxwell: eh?
373 2017-03-01T18:56:23  <sipa> what does 'having a transaction' mean?
374 2017-03-01T18:56:31  <sipa> in the mempool?
375 2017-03-01T18:59:11  <cfields> sipa: yea
376 2017-03-01T19:00:21  <cfields> just trying to decide if i should keep poking the mempool reload theory, i don't have much else to go on
377 2017-03-01T19:02:56  <MarcoFalke> BlueMatt: I need to add my new subkey to trusted-keys, it seems?
378 2017-03-01T19:03:02  <BlueMatt> MarcoFalke: no
379 2017-03-01T19:03:09  <BlueMatt> shouldnt need to
380 2017-03-01T19:03:22  <MarcoFalke> hmm, it fails locally.
381 2017-03-01T19:03:45  <MarcoFalke> Any pull that is ready for merge right now. :P
382 2017-03-01T19:04:12  <BlueMatt> verify-commits.sh fails locally?
383 2017-03-01T19:04:20  <BlueMatt> are you sure you're signing with the right subkey?
384 2017-03-01T19:04:27  <MarcoFalke> Ahg, my mistake. I delkey the old one.
385 2017-03-01T19:17:08  <jonasschnelli> BlueMatt, MarcoFalke: so I think is then remove my NIST-P key and make a RSA4096... to bad.
386 2017-03-01T19:17:22  <sipa> jonasschnelli: i did the same
387 2017-03-01T19:17:48  <jonasschnelli> I though NIST-P would be the more-broad-usable method then Ed25519... but seems we still need to stick with RSA
388 2017-03-01T19:17:49  <sipa> seems support for EC keys in GPG isn't sufficiently rolled out yet
389 2017-03-01T19:18:22  <jonasschnelli> I though to have one of many keys that is new/different shouldn't matter... but if the verification fails,.. this is probably not ideal
390 2017-03-01T19:18:36  <sipa> it's just a question of EC or not, I think P256 and Ed25519 were introduced at the same time in GPG
391 2017-03-01T19:18:41  <sipa> in 2.1.0
392 2017-03-01T19:18:48  <jonasschnelli> No current available bitcoin HWW supports RSA,... NISP-2 and Ed25519 is supported though,...
393 2017-03-01T19:19:01  <jonasschnelli> And I don't want to use one of these crappy CCID smart cards
394 2017-03-01T19:19:32  <jonasschnelli> sipa: I have chosen P256 over Ed25519 because of the github support.. but meh
395 2017-03-01T19:19:53  <sipa> jonasschnelli: well i assume github doesn't support P256 either
396 2017-03-01T19:19:57  <sipa> i didn't mean to be specific
397 2017-03-01T19:19:59  <jonasschnelli> sipa: it does
398 2017-03-01T19:20:02  <sipa> oh
399 2017-03-01T19:20:15  <jonasschnelli> But not secp256k1 (while GPG does) and not Curve25519
400 2017-03-01T19:21:08  <jonasschnelli> Or at leat github accepted my P256 key while my Seck256k1 and Ed25519 key was rejected during upload
401 2017-03-01T19:21:30  <jonasschnelli> (and they state to have ECDSA an EdDSA support)
402 2017-03-01T19:23:44  <sipa> good to know
403 2017-03-01T19:25:38  <MarcoFalke> jonasschnelli: Maybe not revoke the old key, if you planned to do that.
404 2017-03-01T19:26:26  <jonasschnelli> MarcoFalke: I have no plans to revoke them,... just not to have them in the main Bitcoin Core repository anymore... because it seems that they are no longer relevant for newer releases.
405 2017-03-01T19:27:12  <MarcoFalke> I think as long as your root key is in the repo, there won't be any added security/trust by updating in the repo.
406 2017-03-01T19:27:48  <MarcoFalke> Sure, we need to add all keys at least once, but after that there is no harm in fetching from keyservers.
407 2017-03-01T19:28:04  <MarcoFalke> Only maybe when you prefer not to connect to the net
408 2017-03-01T19:28:51  <jonasschnelli> MarcoFalke: Yes. My stupid thinking was that we can verify new binaries within the old binaries without GPG.. but this would require everyone at least provide a secp256k1 key and sig for gitian... which we are far away from,.
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410 2017-03-01T19:56:01  <sipa> https://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e20170301-tg.htm#e20170301-tg_wlog-10
411 2017-03-01T20:08:42  <gmaxwell> man, github could have avoided this snafu by adding some simple language "to the maximum extent that the uploader is legally able", rather than leaving the document in a state where the TOS appears to require users to do things they can't do.
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416 2017-03-01T20:49:17  <Micheal_PVR> Hello everyone, is there anyone that can help me with the core secp256k1 lib? I'm trying to generate the key pair, but can't seem to find the API for private key generation.
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418 2017-03-01T20:53:00  <sipa> secp256k1_ec_pubkey_create
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422 2017-03-01T20:53:35  <sipa> or secp256_ec_seckey_verify
423 2017-03-01T20:53:40  <sipa> pass it a random 32 bytes
424 2017-03-01T20:53:48  <sipa> if it succeeds, it's a valid private key
425 2017-03-01T20:53:57  <sipa> otherwise, generate another and try again
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428 2017-03-01T20:55:18  <Micheal_PVR> Awesome, thanks.
429 2017-03-01T20:58:50  <Micheal_PVR> Sorry for my lack of understanding, but in order for it to then go on to be imported as a mainnet bitcoin wallet, I would have to add a 5 infront?
430 2017-03-01T20:59:28  <Micheal_PVR> basically concatenate the string so that it is in the proper format for import?
431 2017-03-01T20:59:35  <waxwing> Micheal_PVR: this is for core development, use #bitcoin or maybe #bitcoin-dev
432 2017-03-01T20:59:53  <Micheal_PVR> Will do.
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440 2017-03-01T21:25:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #9899: Add jonasschnellis new NIST-P 256 signing key (master...2017/03/key) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9899
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445 2017-03-01T21:33:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Rav3nPL opened pull request #9900: Ban "invalid messagestart" nodes (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9900
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