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  22017-03-01T00:12:37  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] CryptoManiac opened pull request #9893: [RPC] Just an attemt to save some bandwidth (master...rpc_gzip) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9893
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  52017-03-01T00:20:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] instagibbs opened pull request #9894: remove 'label' filter for rpc command help (master...filterrpc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9894
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 322017-03-01T01:39:40  <phantomcircuit> wumpus, is there anything blocking 8704 ?
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 342017-03-01T01:42:00  <BlueMatt> phantomcircuit: yes, lack of review
 352017-03-01T01:43:34  <phantomcircuit> i can fix that
 362017-03-01T01:43:40  <BlueMatt> not by yourself
 372017-03-01T01:44:02  <phantomcircuit> BlueMatt, plz review 8704
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 472017-03-01T02:04:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] benma opened pull request #9895: Turn TryCreateDirectory() into TryCreateDirectories() (master...appinitmain) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9895
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 512017-03-01T02:17:15  <phantomcircuit> BlueMatt, you think 8704 needs an rpc test?
 522017-03-01T02:17:30  <BlueMatt> probs
 532017-03-01T02:17:46  <phantomcircuit> im thinking it doesn't beyond something that tests for true/false and 0/1/2 all not returning an error
 542017-03-01T02:18:02  <phantomcircuit> like not something that checks the output more than it's being checked already
 552017-03-01T02:18:27  <BlueMatt> i dunno i havent looked at it
 562017-03-01T02:19:26  <phantomcircuit> the only thing crazy about it is that it's allowing the second parameter to be any of
 572017-03-01T02:19:29  <phantomcircuit> true/false/0/1/2
 582017-03-01T02:19:54  <phantomcircuit> iono
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 652017-03-01T02:27:38  <luke-jr> phantomcircuit: 3+ are valid too IIRC? :P
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 672017-03-01T02:30:15  <phantomcircuit> luke-jr, true
 682017-03-01T02:30:20  <phantomcircuit> but maybe it shouldnt be?
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 702017-03-01T02:32:26  * luke-jr shrugs
 712017-03-01T02:32:54  <luke-jr> some day we'll wish we did what I originally suggested with {"block": "description level", "txn": "description level"} ;)
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 732017-03-01T02:33:09  <luke-jr> (back in 2012 or something, dead and buried topic now)
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 762017-03-01T02:38:50  <phantomcircuit> luke-jr, description level?
 772017-03-01T02:39:05  <phantomcircuit> oh you mean so you can specify how verbose you want an individual transaction to be?
 782017-03-01T02:40:38  <luke-jr> phantomcircuit: iirc it was either "hex" or "object". maybe one other option I forget
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1022017-03-01T05:28:20  <cfields> wumpus: for backlog, i re-ran my gitian build until my results matched yours and jonasschnelli's. I've submitted a PR to (I belive) fix the determinism issue. See #9891.
1032017-03-01T05:28:21  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9891 | depends: make osx output deterministic by theuni · Pull Request #9891 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1042017-03-01T05:29:25  <cfields> Since everyone is getting one of those two results, I'm going to go ahead and push sigs for one of them. fanquake/achow101, You guys should be able to build a few times and eventually get the same result. Sorry :(. Got to choose one of 'em.
1052017-03-01T05:32:14  <sipa> cfields: so you suggest we don't do an rc4 but instead iterate building until everyone matches?
1062017-03-01T05:32:54  <achow101> cfields: which hash are you using?
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1082017-03-01T05:33:27  <cfields> sipa: since everyone's getting one of two results, and that's been the case ever since rc1, I have no problem with calling it deterministic-ish
1092017-03-01T05:33:48  <cfields> sipa: granted, I'd feel much better with confirmation that 9891 actually fixes the issue.
1102017-03-01T05:34:56  <cfields> achow101: !Hash(achow101)
1112017-03-01T05:35:09  <achow101> cfields: I can probably have my machine just run the build 50 times with 9891 applied and see what the results are
1122017-03-01T05:35:22  <achow101> which hash? I got both of them.
1132017-03-01T05:35:27  <cfields> oh, heh
1142017-03-01T05:35:28  <achow101> both are "mine"
1152017-03-01T05:35:56  <cfields> achow101: 05edd35d4b119ec92ecedde3b2da6a69078161741421da8ed039908a8e223405
1162017-03-01T05:36:09  <cfields> achow101: yea, that would be fantastic if you could
1172017-03-01T05:37:30  <sipa> cfields: demideterminstic :)
1182017-03-01T05:37:50  <cfields> achow101: see the commit message. I managed to produce differing results while manually hammering ld over and over. The change fixed it for me. If I found the right issue, it's basically tied to the amount of cpu's in your machine
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1202017-03-01T05:38:29  <cfields> achow101: it was a social engineering trick to find out what hardware everyone's running. The fact that I always got the same result is sad for me, i guess :)
1212017-03-01T05:38:41  <cfields> sipa: hah
1222017-03-01T05:39:08  <achow101> cfields: so you have hardware with less cpu :)
1232017-03-01T05:40:35  <cfields> achow101: it's not the size of the cpu, it's the tdp...
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1272017-03-01T05:42:45  <cfields> achow101: obviously if you build a branch with that commit you won't match either result, but as long as it's self-consistent, that's enough
1282017-03-01T05:44:31  <achow101> ok. I'll pull it into another branch and just run it overnight and see what the results are
1292017-03-01T05:44:59  <cfields> achow101: that would be really helpful. Thanks!
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1322017-03-01T05:57:27  <cfields> gitian builders: detached sigs for 0.14.0rc3 have been pushed. Note that there are 2 possible build results for osx. A PR has been submitted to (hopefully) fix that.
1332017-03-01T05:57:46  <cfields> just repeating in case anyone missed the above. Headed to bed, nnite.
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1382017-03-01T06:02:18  <fanquake> cfields nice job figuring that out!
1392017-03-01T06:03:55  <luke-jr> ^ +1
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1582017-03-01T07:03:09  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] benma opened pull request #9897: AppInitMain: split initialization of Connman into a new function (master...connman) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9897
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1772017-03-01T08:26:21  * luke-jr wonders which signed OSX actually verifies
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1842017-03-01T09:04:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/11049f4fe626...be8ba2cfa44a
1852017-03-01T09:04:11  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa89670 Pieter Wuille: Add SHA512 tree hash to merge commits
1862017-03-01T09:04:11  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master be8ba2c Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #9871: Add a tree sha512 hash to merge commits...
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1882017-03-01T09:04:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #9871: Add a tree sha512 hash to merge commits (master...merge_sha512) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9871
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1902017-03-01T09:10:35  <wumpus> cfields: thanks!
1912017-03-01T09:10:57  <wumpus> rc3 executables up: https://bitcoin.org/bin/bitcoin-core-0.14.0/test.rc3/
1922017-03-01T09:12:52  <wumpus> should probably send a notification to the mailing list this time
1932017-03-01T09:16:12  <wumpus> for rc2 I didn't bother as there was a critical issue so soon after tagging it
1942017-03-01T09:25:54  <luke-jr> I assume we'll have a rc4 with the determinism fixed (and ideally manpages too)?
1952017-03-01T09:26:43  <wumpus> just fixing the determinism doesn't require a rc4 imo, as it just normalizes what some gitian builders were already doing
1962017-03-01T09:27:19  <wumpus> not sure what you mean about manpages, is there an issue open about that?
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1992017-03-01T09:30:37  <wumpus> anyhow if no new critical issues come up with rc3 I'd be strongly for marking it 0.14.0 final
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2012017-03-01T09:34:59  <wumpus> we've spend too much work crunching to fix issues last minute for this release, and we can almost make the projected March 1 release date, it'd be a waste to let it slip on small issues
2022017-03-01T09:38:20  <wumpus> I mean the network issues were looking quite hopeless at some point and we managed to squash them all in time, that's neat
2032017-03-01T09:39:45  <luke-jr> wumpus: I mean #9892, not a huge thing
2042017-03-01T09:39:46  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9892 | Bugfix: Only install manpages for built programs by luke-jr · Pull Request #9892 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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2062017-03-01T09:42:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/be8ba2cfa44a...3fabae742567
2072017-03-01T09:42:22  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9e4d842 Cory Fields: depends: make osx output deterministic...
2082017-03-01T09:42:23  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3fabae7 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #9891: depends: make osx output deterministic...
2092017-03-01T09:42:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #9891: depends: make osx output deterministic (master...fix-osx-link-determinism) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9891
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2112017-03-01T09:42:57  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.14: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/eff783a0fe7b9eaaba9eef6539bdf0f62ce9f07e
2122017-03-01T09:42:57  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.14 eff783a Cory Fields: depends: make osx output deterministic...
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2152017-03-01T09:47:39  <wumpus> luke-jr: indeed it's not, just a makefile change and only affecting the selection of files to be installed at that - it will have zero influence on the packages as there we install everything. seems like something we can slip in without a new rc
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2322017-03-01T11:22:39  <wumpus> things are never simple are they... https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9898
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2342017-03-01T11:25:50  <luke-jr> :<
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2382017-03-01T11:34:37  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.14: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/a80dc94554e7ec9ea810ce341ac7b5ad3fd66a88
2392017-03-01T11:34:38  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.14 a80dc94 Luke Dashjr: Bugfix: Only install manpages for built programs...
2402017-03-01T11:38:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1ce7ec2a4f28...cbdb4732f10c
2412017-03-01T11:38:23  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 48faf0b Pieter Wuille: Abstract out BlockAssembler options
2422017-03-01T11:38:23  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 277b472 Pieter Wuille: Run miner_tests with fixed options
2432017-03-01T11:38:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cbdb473 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #9868: Abstract out the command line options for block assembly...
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2452017-03-01T11:38:47  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #9868: Abstract out the command line options for block assembly (master...assembleroptions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9868
2462017-03-01T11:42:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 5 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cbdb4732f10c...d19d45a1e6a4
2472017-03-01T11:42:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 224e6eb Wladimir J. van der Laan: util: Specific GetOSRandom for Linux/FreeBSD/OpenBSD...
2482017-03-01T11:42:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master aa09ccb Wladimir J. van der Laan: squashme: comment that NUM_OS_RANDOM_BYTES should not be changed lightly
2492017-03-01T11:42:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7cad849 Wladimir J. van der Laan: sanity: Move OS random to sanity check function...
2502017-03-01T11:42:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #9821: util: Specific GetOSRandom for Linux/FreeBSD/OpenBSD (master...2017_02_osrandom) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9821
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2552017-03-01T12:18:32  <cfields> wumpus: heh.. i wonder if that's somehow related to travis and the aws outage
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2572017-03-01T12:19:01  <cfields> considering that travis was happy with it in the PR, and gitian builds are fine
2582017-03-01T12:19:22  <wumpus> yes exactly, the PR was fine
2592017-03-01T12:19:45  <wumpus> is the qt compilation somehow dependent on the architecture it's compiled on? (would be unlikely, but ok)
2602017-03-01T12:20:16  <wumpus> I don't understand where the avr mess suddenly comes from. Could also be that trusty updated their compiler/toolchains
2612017-03-01T12:20:25  <wumpus> avx*
2622017-03-01T12:20:34  <cfields> wumpus: yea, it does cpu detection, and there were bugs up until 5.8 about using the wrong toolchain for that
2632017-03-01T12:21:06  <wumpus> I hope we override the cpu detection for gitian, at least?
2642017-03-01T12:21:13  <cfields> wumpus: not saying that's the cause for sure, only that it's possible
2652017-03-01T12:21:58  <wumpus> ...I'm sure we do already, otherwise we'd have different gitian results based on the CPU it's compiled on
2662017-03-01T12:22:32  <cfields> wumpus: the tests are just for what extensions (intrinsics) the compiler understands, they're still tested at runtime regardless
2672017-03-01T12:22:56  <wumpus> ohh it checks what the compiler understands, not what the cpu understands
2682017-03-01T12:23:03  <wumpus> yes, thanks, that makes it seem sane again :)
2692017-03-01T12:23:08  <cfields> right
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2712017-03-01T12:24:20  <wumpus> I imagining something like -march=native, that would be a good way to mess up gitian determinism
2722017-03-01T12:24:30  <cfields> (i can't see the travis log now, it won't load. that's why i'm just speculating instead of trying to fix it :)
2732017-03-01T12:24:47  <cfields> ah, heh
2742017-03-01T12:28:46  <cfields> grr... is 1/2 of the net still down due to aws? Or travis just backlogged and wonky?
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2802017-03-01T13:03:08  <cfields> wumpus: ooh, i see. Those are just configure checks. They're supposed to fail. The error there was just that the build took too long.
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2822017-03-01T13:04:31  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #9899: Add jonasschnellis new NIST-P 256 signing key (master...2017/03/key) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9899
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3032017-03-01T13:42:47  <achow101> cfields: it looks deterministic. All 50 builds resulted in the same hash
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3072017-03-01T13:44:05  <cfields> achow101: great news, thanks for testing!
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3672017-03-01T18:53:28  <cfields> BlueMatt: have you been able to reproduce your qt crash at all?
3682017-03-01T18:53:39  <BlueMatt> not since that night
3692017-03-01T18:54:37  <cfields> BlueMatt: and you didn't have any tx's that had confirmed within ~a day?
3702017-03-01T18:55:08  <gmaxwell> what a bizarre question.
3712017-03-01T18:55:10  <BlueMatt> no, no relevant txn at all
3722017-03-01T18:55:33  <cfields> gmaxwell: eh?
3732017-03-01T18:56:23  <sipa> what does 'having a transaction' mean?
3742017-03-01T18:56:31  <sipa> in the mempool?
3752017-03-01T18:59:11  <cfields> sipa: yea
3762017-03-01T19:00:21  <cfields> just trying to decide if i should keep poking the mempool reload theory, i don't have much else to go on
3772017-03-01T19:02:56  <MarcoFalke> BlueMatt: I need to add my new subkey to trusted-keys, it seems?
3782017-03-01T19:03:02  <BlueMatt> MarcoFalke: no
3792017-03-01T19:03:09  <BlueMatt> shouldnt need to
3802017-03-01T19:03:22  <MarcoFalke> hmm, it fails locally.
3812017-03-01T19:03:45  <MarcoFalke> Any pull that is ready for merge right now. :P
3822017-03-01T19:04:12  <BlueMatt> verify-commits.sh fails locally?
3832017-03-01T19:04:20  <BlueMatt> are you sure you're signing with the right subkey?
3842017-03-01T19:04:27  <MarcoFalke> Ahg, my mistake. I delkey the old one.
3852017-03-01T19:17:08  <jonasschnelli> BlueMatt, MarcoFalke: so I think is then remove my NIST-P key and make a RSA4096... to bad.
3862017-03-01T19:17:22  <sipa> jonasschnelli: i did the same
3872017-03-01T19:17:48  <jonasschnelli> I though NIST-P would be the more-broad-usable method then Ed25519... but seems we still need to stick with RSA
3882017-03-01T19:17:49  <sipa> seems support for EC keys in GPG isn't sufficiently rolled out yet
3892017-03-01T19:18:22  <jonasschnelli> I though to have one of many keys that is new/different shouldn't matter... but if the verification fails,.. this is probably not ideal
3902017-03-01T19:18:36  <sipa> it's just a question of EC or not, I think P256 and Ed25519 were introduced at the same time in GPG
3912017-03-01T19:18:41  <sipa> in 2.1.0
3922017-03-01T19:18:48  <jonasschnelli> No current available bitcoin HWW supports RSA,... NISP-2 and Ed25519 is supported though,...
3932017-03-01T19:19:01  <jonasschnelli> And I don't want to use one of these crappy CCID smart cards
3942017-03-01T19:19:32  <jonasschnelli> sipa: I have chosen P256 over Ed25519 because of the github support.. but meh
3952017-03-01T19:19:53  <sipa> jonasschnelli: well i assume github doesn't support P256 either
3962017-03-01T19:19:57  <sipa> i didn't mean to be specific
3972017-03-01T19:19:59  <jonasschnelli> sipa: it does
3982017-03-01T19:20:02  <sipa> oh
3992017-03-01T19:20:15  <jonasschnelli> But not secp256k1 (while GPG does) and not Curve25519
4002017-03-01T19:21:08  <jonasschnelli> Or at leat github accepted my P256 key while my Seck256k1 and Ed25519 key was rejected during upload
4012017-03-01T19:21:30  <jonasschnelli> (and they state to have ECDSA an EdDSA support)
4022017-03-01T19:23:44  <sipa> good to know
4032017-03-01T19:25:38  <MarcoFalke> jonasschnelli: Maybe not revoke the old key, if you planned to do that.
4042017-03-01T19:26:26  <jonasschnelli> MarcoFalke: I have no plans to revoke them,... just not to have them in the main Bitcoin Core repository anymore... because it seems that they are no longer relevant for newer releases.
4052017-03-01T19:27:12  <MarcoFalke> I think as long as your root key is in the repo, there won't be any added security/trust by updating in the repo.
4062017-03-01T19:27:48  <MarcoFalke> Sure, we need to add all keys at least once, but after that there is no harm in fetching from keyservers.
4072017-03-01T19:28:04  <MarcoFalke> Only maybe when you prefer not to connect to the net
4082017-03-01T19:28:51  <jonasschnelli> MarcoFalke: Yes. My stupid thinking was that we can verify new binaries within the old binaries without GPG.. but this would require everyone at least provide a secp256k1 key and sig for gitian... which we are far away from,.
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4102017-03-01T19:56:01  <sipa> https://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e20170301-tg.htm#e20170301-tg_wlog-10
4112017-03-01T20:08:42  <gmaxwell> man, github could have avoided this snafu by adding some simple language "to the maximum extent that the uploader is legally able", rather than leaving the document in a state where the TOS appears to require users to do things they can't do.
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4162017-03-01T20:49:17  <Micheal_PVR> Hello everyone, is there anyone that can help me with the core secp256k1 lib? I'm trying to generate the key pair, but can't seem to find the API for private key generation.
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4182017-03-01T20:53:00  <sipa> secp256k1_ec_pubkey_create
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4222017-03-01T20:53:35  <sipa> or secp256_ec_seckey_verify
4232017-03-01T20:53:40  <sipa> pass it a random 32 bytes
4242017-03-01T20:53:48  <sipa> if it succeeds, it's a valid private key
4252017-03-01T20:53:57  <sipa> otherwise, generate another and try again
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4282017-03-01T20:55:18  <Micheal_PVR> Awesome, thanks.
4292017-03-01T20:58:50  <Micheal_PVR> Sorry for my lack of understanding, but in order for it to then go on to be imported as a mainnet bitcoin wallet, I would have to add a 5 infront?
4302017-03-01T20:59:28  <Micheal_PVR> basically concatenate the string so that it is in the proper format for import?
4312017-03-01T20:59:35  <waxwing> Micheal_PVR: this is for core development, use #bitcoin or maybe #bitcoin-dev
4322017-03-01T20:59:53  <Micheal_PVR> Will do.
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4402017-03-01T21:25:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #9899: Add jonasschnellis new NIST-P 256 signing key (master...2017/03/key) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9899
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4452017-03-01T21:33:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Rav3nPL opened pull request #9900: Ban "invalid messagestart" nodes (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9900
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