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  2 2017-06-13T00:22:29  <bitfriend> hi if i want to buy ethereum do i need to buy bitcoin first
  3 2017-06-13T00:22:47  <bitfriend> oh is this the wrong channel
  4 2017-06-13T00:27:17  <sipa> try #bitcoin
  5 2017-06-13T00:29:51  <bitfriend> thank you friend i went to #ethereum and they helped me
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 32 2017-06-13T05:55:52  <kb4yer__> Be a part of the NEW V-Tec-Telegram Lognterm Trading BOT Start here:  https://goo.gl/yYT5qJ
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 35 2017-06-13T06:40:18  <luke-jr> correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems compact blocks breaks the "DoS banning for invalid blocks" stuff..
 36 2017-06-13T06:40:38  <luke-jr> the assumption of it, relied on to ensure peers are on the same chain
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 39 2017-06-13T07:09:13  <gmaxwell> luke-jr: it didn't break it, it intentionally changed the behavior in order to facilitate relay before validation.
 40 2017-06-13T07:09:55  <luke-jr> gmaxwell: then there's no problem with removing DoS banning from non-compactblock cases? O.o
 41 2017-06-13T07:12:04  <gmaxwell> they'll still get disconnected if diverged (e.g. once the parent of their tip is not your tip)
 42 2017-06-13T07:13:10  <luke-jr> oh, because that scenario falls back to non-cb?
 43 2017-06-13T07:17:07  <gmaxwell> yes.
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 46 2017-06-13T07:22:43  <luke-jr> gmaxwell: lacking a clean way to ensure the tips match, can you think of any problem with simply turning all existing DoS banning for invalid blocks into a disconnect-only-if-a-primary-peer?
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 75 2017-06-13T09:55:41  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8d9f45ea6a5e...303c171b949b
 76 2017-06-13T09:55:42  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 30c2d9d practicalswift: [tests] Remove unused function InsecureRandBytes(size_t len)
 77 2017-06-13T09:55:42  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9f841a6 practicalswift: [tests] Remove accidental trailing semicolon
 78 2017-06-13T09:55:43  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 67ca816 practicalswift: Simplify "bool x = y ? true : false" to "bool x = y"
 79 2017-06-13T09:56:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10553: Simplify "bool x = y ? true : false". Remove unused function and trailing semicolon. (master...minor-cleanups) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10553
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 85 2017-06-13T10:36:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] drizzt opened pull request #10580: Prefer gpg2 to gpg (master...prefer_gpg2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10580
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107 2017-06-13T12:56:21  <rupy> hi, so I know accounts are deprecated but I have no choice but to use them anyways. My concern is that come segwit accounts won't be able to make the new transactions, any1 have any clue about that?
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137 2017-06-13T16:33:12  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/303c171b949b...a514ac3dcb60
138 2017-06-13T16:33:12  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e241a63 Pieter Wuille: Clarify prevector::erase and avoid swap-to-clear
139 2017-06-13T16:33:13  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a514ac3 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10534: Clarify prevector::erase and avoid swap-to-clear...
140 2017-06-13T16:33:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10534: Clarify prevector::erase and avoid swap-to-clear (master...clarify_erase) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10534
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151 2017-06-13T17:34:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a514ac3dcb60...22ec76883886
152 2017-06-13T17:34:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a090d1c Pieter Wuille: Header include guideline
153 2017-06-13T17:34:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 22ec768 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10575: Header include guideline...
154 2017-06-13T17:34:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10575: Header include guideline (master...includeguide) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10575
155 2017-06-13T17:48:34  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 5 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/22ec76883886...a4fe07714da1
156 2017-06-13T17:48:35  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cf44e4c Pieter Wuille: Squashed 'src/leveldb/' changes from a31c8aa40..196962ff0...
157 2017-06-13T17:48:35  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e4030ab Pieter Wuille: Update to LevelDB 1.20
158 2017-06-13T17:48:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2424989 Cory Fields: leveldb: enable runtime-detected crc32 instructions
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160 2017-06-13T17:49:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10544: Update to LevelDB 1.20 (master...leveldb120) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10544
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169 2017-06-13T19:13:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a4fe07714da1...fbf5d3ba1516
170 2017-06-13T19:13:43  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5432fc3 Pieter Wuille: Fail on commit with VERIFY SCRIPT but no scripted-diff
171 2017-06-13T19:13:44  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fbf5d3b Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10480: Improve commit-check-script.sh...
172 2017-06-13T19:14:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10480: Improve commit-check-script.sh (master...update_script_check) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10480
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174 2017-06-13T19:21:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #10581: Simplify return values of GetCoin/HaveCoin(InCache) (master...simplehavecoin) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10581
175 2017-06-13T19:25:21  <morcos> wumpus: where are we with 0.14.2?  i'm still tracking down where this bug appeared, and not sure it's urgent to fix, but the coin control approxmiate fee is no longer updated by the smart fee slider.  it looks like the bug exists in 0.14.1 but not in 0.13.2
176 2017-06-13T19:28:14  <gmaxwell> unrelated to anything, should we be considering changing the fallback fee?
177 2017-06-13T19:28:26  <gmaxwell> I believe it's at a level which will never get confirmed.
178 2017-06-13T19:30:16  <morcos> gmaxwell: i'd be in favor of increasing it, but its unclear to what
179 2017-06-13T19:31:07  <gmaxwell> some minimum amount that is actually getting confirmed? https://anduck.net/bitcoin/fees/
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181 2017-06-13T19:33:44  <morcos> Well it depends, a couple of weeks ago txs paying up to 70 sat/B were evicted from the mempool
182 2017-06-13T19:34:07  <gmaxwell> 70s/b would be a big improvement over where it is now.
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184 2017-06-13T19:36:26  <morcos> I think this past weekend, txs were being confirmed possibly as low as 20 sat/B
185 2017-06-13T19:36:37  <morcos> but maybe its ok if the fallback is occasionally an over estimate
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187 2017-06-13T19:36:57  <morcos> its not like 70 sat/B is so high that it would have been considered ridiculous any time in the last year
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189 2017-06-13T19:37:22  <gmaxwell> well, so long as we don't have replacability by default I think it's better to overpay a little.
190 2017-06-13T19:37:30  <morcos> and its not a floor its just a fall back, so yeah that seems reasonable, maybe even higher...
191 2017-06-13T19:37:53  <morcos> btw, it looks like #8989 is what broke the approximate fee in the coin control section
192 2017-06-13T19:37:55  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/8989 | [Qt] overhaul smart-fee slider, adjust default confirmation target by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #8989 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
193 2017-06-13T19:38:07  <morcos> i don't know about anyone else, but it seems to me this is fairly important to fix
194 2017-06-13T19:38:32  <morcos> if people are trying to manually select coins and there is a wide range of fee rates, it'll be super annoying if its not actually telling them how much its going to pay
195 2017-06-13T19:38:45  <morcos> the final dialog box at the end after you click send has the correct fee of course
196 2017-06-13T19:39:51  <gmaxwell> that PR is confusing.
197 2017-06-13T19:58:41  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] morcos opened pull request #10582: Pass in smart fee slider value to coin control dialog (master...fixcoincontrolfee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10582
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209 2017-06-13T21:37:10  <kvnn> @gmaxwell are you indeed the Gmaxwell at https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Segwit_support&action=history ? Sorry, I'm not sure how else to verify
210 2017-06-13T21:40:16  <midnightmagic> Sure hope so, or else someone's been impersonating him all these years
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220 2017-06-13T22:10:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] benma closed pull request #10497: remove the PAIRTYPE macro (master...pairtype) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10497
221 2017-06-13T22:11:58  <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, possibly there shouldn't be a fallback fee at all
222 2017-06-13T22:12:05  <phantomcircuit> if we fail to estimate the fee
223 2017-06-13T22:12:17  <phantomcircuit> we should probably just do an rbf transaction with no fee
224 2017-06-13T22:12:20  <phantomcircuit> and correct later
225 2017-06-13T22:12:23  <phantomcircuit> (but work)
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228 2017-06-13T22:15:23  <gmaxwell> kvnn: yes.
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230 2017-06-13T22:17:38  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #10583: [RPC] Split part of validateaddress into getaddressinfo (master...getaddressinfo) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10583
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237 2017-06-13T22:40:21  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky opened pull request #10584: Remove unused ResendWalletTransactions notification (master...pr/noresend) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10584
238 2017-06-13T22:41:44  <TD-Linux> phantomcircuit, is there fee bumping support in bitcoin core now?
239 2017-06-13T22:59:19  <sipa> there is a bumpfee RPC
240 2017-06-13T22:59:28  <sipa> only works for bip125 transactions
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248 2017-06-13T23:19:53  <TD-Linux> seems like exposing that in the GUI would be required before relying on it
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250 2017-06-13T23:21:34  <gmaxwell> ACK
251 2017-06-13T23:21:57  * sipa volunteers TD-Linux to implement that
252 2017-06-13T23:22:11  <TD-Linux> :)
253 2017-06-13T23:23:01  <TD-Linux> though immediately, I'm mostly suggesting that you just crank the fallback fee to 70 sat/b for now
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256 2017-06-13T23:25:26  <TD-Linux> by the way, the top Google results for "bitcoin transaction stuck" involve multi-step processes using web wallets that are much worse than overpaying
257 2017-06-13T23:30:37  <TD-Linux> oh, bumpfee is already in the gui. right click transaction -> increase transaction fee
258 2017-06-13T23:30:57  <sipa> orly?
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261 2017-06-13T23:34:13  <TD-Linux> seems to work. automatically picks fee bump
262 2017-06-13T23:38:49  <TD-Linux> I do think if there's still opposition to enabling replaceability by default, enabling it when smartfee isn't available is reasonable
263 2017-06-13T23:42:18  <gmaxwell> TD-Linux: the GUI support isn't in a release yet.
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