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 12 2017-08-01T01:10:12  <jnewbery> sipa: I've updated the pre-0.8 to 0.15 upgrade advice here: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/0.15.0-Release-notes/6b2669777228f8b0f4059ca3ba1010041e34c4b3
 13 2017-08-01T01:10:26  <sipa> jnewbery: i saw
 14 2017-08-01T01:10:30  <jnewbery> Block file upgrade code removed here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9822
 15 2017-08-01T01:12:06  <jnewbery> It's a bit pedantic - probably no-one is running pre-0.8 anymore. I have a slight preference to include the upgrade advice, but won't be too upset if other people vote to remove it.
 16 2017-08-01T01:15:14  <sipa> oh, it was actually removed!
 17 2017-08-01T01:15:15  <sipa> ok
 18 2017-08-01T01:15:28  <sipa> jnewbery: i've also changed all v0.15 notation into 'version' or 'Bitcoin Core'
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 20 2017-08-01T01:24:00  <jnewbery> I saw. Looks good to me.
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 26 2017-08-01T01:50:58  <Emcy_> 'On Windows, do not forget to uninstall all earlier versions of the Bitcoin client first.' Is this really *necessary*. No one ever does this
 27 2017-08-01T01:51:05  <Emcy_> over the top installs happen
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 32 2017-08-01T02:10:43  <luke-jr> Emcy_: I have no idea, but we said that in older versions
 33 2017-08-01T02:10:51  <luke-jr> Emcy_: if you can confirm it isn't needed, maybe it can be removed
 34 2017-08-01T02:12:22  <Emcy_> it seems to be one of those fluff recommendations that windows software makes, like 'reboot your machine after install' as if anyone really does that.
 35 2017-08-01T02:12:50  <Emcy_> If its just copying new files over the top i dont see why its necessary. Ill try it when 0.15 comes out
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 39 2017-08-01T02:23:55  <theymos> I've never given the advice to uninstall first. In fact, that could conceivably cause problems because uninstalling sometimes creates a one-time run-at-boot task which removes some files that the uninstaller couldn't immediately remove.
 40 2017-08-01T02:24:19  <theymos> (Speaking generally here -- I've never looked at the Bitcoin Core installer.)
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 42 2017-08-01T02:31:45  <Emcy_> thats true
 43 2017-08-01T02:32:26  <Emcy_> tahts what it says in those draft rls notes though, twice in fact and the second time makes it sound like not-boilerplate
 44 2017-08-01T02:32:33  <Emcy_> thats why i asked
 45 2017-08-01T02:35:18  <theymos> Old versions recommended installing over the old one: https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.12.0
 46 2017-08-01T02:35:39  <theymos> The uninstall note must've been added recently. Maybe there's some reason for it, or maybe it was added in error.
 47 2017-08-01T02:39:49  <gmaxwell> I've always told people to overinstall.
 48 2017-08-01T02:40:09  <gmaxwell> I would be kinda worried about someone managing to delete their chain or wallet if I instructed them to remove!
 49 2017-08-01T02:41:15  <gmaxwell> might be useful to investigate the history to see if there was a reason or if it was a copyediting error.
 50 2017-08-01T02:41:46  <gmaxwell> generally I'm super scared about telling users to remove or delete anything;  lest the next thing I see from them was "okay, I used the system recovery DVD"
 51 2017-08-01T02:43:40  <Emcy_> lol
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 58 2017-08-01T03:07:38  <luke-jr> Emcy_: when 0.15 comes out, it will be too late to change..
 59 2017-08-01T03:08:12  <luke-jr> theymos: I copied the uninstall bit from 0.8 or 0.9 IIRC
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 90 2017-08-01T06:31:45  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] coblee opened pull request #10968: Add instructions for parallel gitian builds. (master...coblee_multi_core) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10968
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 93 2017-08-01T06:39:35  <BitMEX_Wally> There is a chainsplit in testnet and my 14.1 node is refusing to follow the longest chain after I ran invalidateblock on the short chain
 94 2017-08-01T06:39:54  <BitMEX_Wally> getchaintips shows the longest chain as 'headers-only'
 95 2017-08-01T06:42:13  <arubi> which block is that BitMEX_Wally ?
 96 2017-08-01T06:42:31  <BitMEX_Wally>   {
 97 2017-08-01T06:42:31  <BitMEX_Wally>     "height": 1155846,
 98 2017-08-01T06:42:31  <BitMEX_Wally>     "hash": "00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e",
 99 2017-08-01T06:42:33  <BitMEX_Wally>     "branchlen": 41,
100 2017-08-01T06:42:35  <BitMEX_Wally>     "status": "headers-only"
101 2017-08-01T06:42:37  <BitMEX_Wally>   },
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104 2017-08-01T06:44:15  <arubi> I have it too
105 2017-08-01T06:45:17  <arubi> well, if the node doesn't have the blocks then it can't change to the other chain.  maybe someone testing lite wallets?
106 2017-08-01T06:46:19  <BitMEX_Wally> My other node is following that chain
107 2017-08-01T06:46:22  <BitMEX_Wally> So are block explorers: https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/
108 2017-08-01T06:46:46  <gmaxwell> it's really common for the testnet chain with the most work to have fewer blocks FWIW.
109 2017-08-01T06:46:51  <BitMEX_Wally> So how do I get my node to download those blocks? It is currently stuck on 1155805 / 00000000000005757375cdb666a319cf6758d54af7a19da42a96a0551f342d6b and not updating
110 2017-08-01T06:47:09  <BitMEX_Wally> This chain has the most work as far as I can tell
111 2017-08-01T06:47:20  <BitMEX_Wally> height=1155846  log2_work=69.338015
112 2017-08-01T06:47:37  <gmaxwell> BitMEX_Wally: run getblockchainfo to see how much work you have in useful units
113 2017-08-01T06:47:43  <gmaxwell>   "chainwork": "000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000028707f523ddd5abd07",
114 2017-08-01T06:48:17  <BitMEX_Wally>   "chain": "test",
115 2017-08-01T06:48:17  <BitMEX_Wally>   "blocks": 1155805,
116 2017-08-01T06:48:17  <BitMEX_Wally>   "headers": 1155846,
117 2017-08-01T06:48:19  <BitMEX_Wally>   "bestblockhash": "00000000000005757375cdb666a319cf6758d54af7a19da42a96a0551f342d6b",
118 2017-08-01T06:48:21  <BitMEX_Wally>   "difficulty": 2597896.746553252,
119 2017-08-01T06:48:23  <BitMEX_Wally>   "mediantime": 1501547517,
120 2017-08-01T06:48:25  <BitMEX_Wally>   "verificationprogress": 0.9997853208317297,
121 2017-08-01T06:48:27  <BitMEX_Wally>   "chainwork": "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000286d17360b5491b2c3",
122 2017-08-01T06:48:29  <BitMEX_Wally>   "pruned": false,
123 2017-08-01T06:48:31  <BitMEX_Wally>   "softforks": [
124 2017-08-01T06:48:55  <gmaxwell> okay thats less work than I have. Do you see any invalid in getchaintips or your debug log?
125 2017-08-01T06:50:40  <BitMEX_Wally> [
126 2017-08-01T06:50:40  <BitMEX_Wally>   {
127 2017-08-01T06:50:40  <BitMEX_Wally>     "height": 1155846,
128 2017-08-01T06:50:41  <BitMEX_Wally>     "hash": "00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e",
129 2017-08-01T06:50:43  <BitMEX_Wally>     "branchlen": 41,
130 2017-08-01T06:50:45  <BitMEX_Wally>     "status": "headers-only"
131 2017-08-01T06:50:47  <BitMEX_Wally>   },
132 2017-08-01T06:50:49  <BitMEX_Wally>   {
133 2017-08-01T06:50:51  <BitMEX_Wally>     "height": 1155831,
134 2017-08-01T06:50:53  <BitMEX_Wally>     "hash": "000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640",
135 2017-08-01T06:50:55  <BitMEX_Wally>     "branchlen": 26,
136 2017-08-01T06:50:57  <BitMEX_Wally>     "status": "invalid"
137 2017-08-01T06:50:59  <BitMEX_Wally>   },
138 2017-08-01T06:51:01  <BitMEX_Wally>   {
139 2017-08-01T06:51:03  <BitMEX_Wally>     "height": 1155807,
140 2017-08-01T06:51:05  <BitMEX_Wally>     "hash": "0000000000014b01c3ae388401c8c2d0945ec953f695ea50d357c7bf8bef2279",
141 2017-08-01T06:51:07  <BitMEX_Wally>     "branchlen": 2,
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143 2017-08-01T06:51:09  <BitMEX_Wally>     "status": "invalid"
144 2017-08-01T06:51:11  <BitMEX_Wally>   },
145 2017-08-01T06:51:13  <BitMEX_Wally>   {
146 2017-08-01T06:51:15  <BitMEX_Wally>     "height": 1155805,
147 2017-08-01T06:51:16  <sipa> please don't copy-paste more than 3 lines
148 2017-08-01T06:51:17  <BitMEX_Wally>     "hash": "00000000000005757375cdb666a319cf6758d54af7a19da42a96a0551f342d6b",
149 2017-08-01T06:51:19  <BitMEX_Wally>     "branchlen": 0,
150 2017-08-01T06:51:21  <BitMEX_Wally>     "status": "active"
151 2017-08-01T06:51:23  <BitMEX_Wally>   },
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153 2017-08-01T06:51:30  <gmaxwell> 000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640  is in my best chain here...
154 2017-08-01T06:51:57  <gmaxwell> BitMEX_Wally: so now you need to look in your debug.log to see why 000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640 was rejected as invalid.
155 2017-08-01T06:52:11  <BitMEX_Wally> 1155846 / 00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e has "chainwork": "00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002872d1f10daeee43fa",
156 2017-08-01T06:52:13  <gmaxwell> look at debug.log and search for 000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640
157 2017-08-01T06:52:27  <BitMEX_Wally> I marked 000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640 as invalid because the other chain had more work
158 2017-08-01T06:53:09  <sipa> you can undo invalidateblock using reconsiderblock
159 2017-08-01T06:53:29  <BitMEX_Wally> Yeah, but then I would be on chain 1155831 again, which is not most work?
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161 2017-08-01T06:55:14  <gmaxwell> my nodes have never seen 00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e
162 2017-08-01T06:55:47  <BitMEX_Wally> 2017-08-01 06:34:13 UpdateTip: new best=00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e height=1155846                    log2_work=69.338015 tx=14687012 date=2017-08-01 06:34:10   progress=1.000000 cache=0.7MiB(1148tx)
163 2017-08-01T06:55:48  <BitMEX_Wally> 2017-08-01 05:47:57 UpdateTip: new best=000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640 height=1155831 version=0x20000000 log2_work=69.337605 tx=14686762 date='2017-08-01 05:47:46' progress=1.000000 cache=0.9MiB(2990tx)
164 2017-08-01T06:55:52  <BitMEX_Wally> These are my 2 nodes
165 2017-08-01T06:56:06  <BitMEX_Wally> The longest one definitely has more work
166 2017-08-01T06:56:46  <sipa> are they running the same software?
167 2017-08-01T06:56:49  <BitMEX_Wally> No
168 2017-08-01T06:57:15  <sipa> what are they running?
169 2017-08-01T06:57:19  <BitMEX_Wally> First one (longest) is running v0.12.1
170 2017-08-01T06:57:23  <gmaxwell> gonna guess the more work one is probably segwit invalid.
171 2017-08-01T06:57:29  <BitMEX_Wally> Ahh
172 2017-08-01T06:57:33  <sipa> seems likely, yes
173 2017-08-01T06:57:43  <gmaxwell> oh I just see in your chaintips that you have two invalid blocks there.
174 2017-08-01T06:57:44  <BitMEX_Wally> Why are people still mining it *sigh*
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177 2017-08-01T07:00:11  <gmaxwell> I see smartbits explorer is consistent with my nodes.
178 2017-08-01T07:00:34  <gmaxwell> and I know their explorer is backed by a node that actually verifies things.
179 2017-08-01T07:02:39  <BitMEX_Wally> Ok so I will tell my other node to invalidate those blocks
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181 2017-08-01T07:03:38  <BitMEX_Wally> Then I will put it behind another SegWit ndoe
182 2017-08-01T07:04:01  <gmaxwell> sounds like a good idea.
183 2017-08-01T07:05:38  <BitMEX_Wally> Ok that worked. Sorry to bother you Greg
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185 2017-08-01T07:07:16  <gmaxwell> Don't be. Always feel free to bring concerns like this here!
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228 2017-08-01T10:08:50  <wumpus> MarcoFalke: sipa: certs should be renewed, thanks for the reminder
229 2017-08-01T10:15:05  <wumpus> I feel kind of uncomfortable runinng certbot as root automatically in a crontab, though for availablility it'd probably be a good idea
230 2017-08-01T10:15:25  <wumpus> manually babysitting servers in timely manner is not something I'm good at
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233 2017-08-01T10:26:33  <sam_c> i don't like the idea either
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239 2017-08-01T10:59:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 6 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/42307c4bf363...bd924241e7dc
240 2017-08-01T10:59:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master eda888e Matt Corallo: Fix some LoadChainTip-related init-order bugs....
241 2017-08-01T10:59:18  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b0f3249 Matt Corallo: More user-friendly error message if UTXO DB runs ahead of block DB...
242 2017-08-01T10:59:18  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ff3a219 Matt Corallo: Call RewindBlockIndex even if we're about to run -reindex-chainstate...
243 2017-08-01T10:59:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10758: Fix some chainstate-init-order bugs. (master...2014-07-nonatomic-flush-fixes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10758
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250 2017-08-01T11:08:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bd924241e7dc...754aa02b8a72
251 2017-08-01T11:08:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master efeb273 Pieter Wuille: Force on-the-fly compaction during pertxout upgrade
252 2017-08-01T11:08:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 754aa02 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10526: Force on-the-fly compaction during pertxout upgrade...
253 2017-08-01T11:08:37  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10526: Force on-the-fly compaction during pertxout upgrade (master...compactrange) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10526
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268 2017-08-01T12:04:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #10969: Declare single-argument (non-converting) constructors "explicit" (master...explicit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10969
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275 2017-08-01T12:27:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/754aa02b8a72...f66c59650527
276 2017-08-01T12:27:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e222dc2 Andrew Chow: Replace ismine with producesignature check in witnessifier...
277 2017-08-01T12:27:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f66c596 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10788: [RPC] Fix addwitnessaddress by replacing ismine with producesignature...
278 2017-08-01T12:28:05  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10788: [RPC] Fix addwitnessaddress by replacing ismine with producesignature (master...fix-addwitnessaddress) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10788
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387 2017-08-01T18:54:37  <gmaxwell> https://people.xiph.org/~greg/banlist.cli.txt
388 2017-08-01T18:54:41  <gmaxwell> https://people.xiph.org/~greg/banlist.gui.txt
389 2017-08-01T18:56:55  <gmaxwell> Updated my banned node list.
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441 2017-08-01T21:27:38  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theuni opened pull request #10971: build: fix missing warnings and sse42 in depends builds (master...fix-config-override) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10971
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443 2017-08-01T21:37:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #10972: Check return value of addr.GetKeyID(keyid) on custom change address change (master...GetKeyID-assertion) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10972
444 2017-08-01T21:40:37  <earlz> Has anyone successfully cross-compiled Bitcoin Core for a raspberry pi? If so, is that process documented somewhere?
445 2017-08-01T21:40:57  <earlz> I saw one tutorial on how to compile it on-device, but I'd rather spend less than 1 day compiling
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448 2017-08-01T21:48:11  <sipa> earlz: more, there are release binaries for ARM
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453 2017-08-01T22:17:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky opened pull request #10973: WIP: Add IPC layer between node and wallet (master...pr/wipc-sep) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10973
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457 2017-08-01T22:31:49  <earlz> sipa: how are those made though? Gitian?
458 2017-08-01T22:32:34  <cfields> yes
459 2017-08-01T22:35:03  <earlz> ah
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