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  4 2017-09-25T00:39:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/10a20bf7700e...12ed800ab870
  5 2017-09-25T00:39:27  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 90ab62c John Newbery: [docs] document scripted-diff
  6 2017-09-25T00:39:28  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 12ed800 Pieter Wuille: Merge #11390: [docs] document scripted-diff...
  7 2017-09-25T00:40:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa closed pull request #11390: [docs] document scripted-diff (master...document_scripted_diff) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11390
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 14 2017-09-25T01:29:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #10884: Added fix for wrong PATH to build-windows.md (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10884
 15 2017-09-25T01:32:55  <sdfgsdfg> andytoshi mryandao come on do the same thing here
 16 2017-09-25T01:35:03  <sdfgsdfg> remove everyone from channels
 17 2017-09-25T01:35:12  <sdfgsdfg> every time you hear the same thing
 18 2017-09-25T01:35:54  <sdfgsdfg> greg maxwell and you two are a disgrace
 19 2017-09-25T01:41:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #11369: doc: Document locks - increase LOCK(...) comment coverage from 2 % to 77 % (master...lock-comments) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11369
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 21 2017-09-25T01:46:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #11394: Perform a weaker subtree check in Travis (master...201709_travis_subtree) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11394
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 28 2017-09-25T01:57:01  <gmaxwell> sipa: I walked back through history and don't see any other fixes made against libsecp256k1 in the repo except the one you caught.
 29 2017-09-25T01:57:50  <sipa> gmaxwell: git-subtree-check will give you diff between the expected subtree contents and the actual one
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 31 2017-09-25T01:58:17  <sipa> (that's how i found and constructed https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/478)
 32 2017-09-25T02:00:04  <sipa> so there are indeed no other changes
 33 2017-09-25T02:00:53  <gmaxwell> sipa: yes, but I was concerned that there had been past changes we blew away with a subtree merge, they wouldn't have shown up with that check.
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 35 2017-09-25T02:03:30  <sipa> also see https://github.com/bitcoin-core/univalue/pull/6
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 50 2017-09-25T04:20:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #11395: Qt: Enable searching by transaction id (master...gui_search_txid) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11395
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 91 2017-09-25T09:48:54  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/12ed800ab870...a3b4c5943b31
 92 2017-09-25T09:48:55  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 204cc98 Shooter: fix  link error...
 93 2017-09-25T09:48:55  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a3b4c59 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11392: Fix stale link in gitian-building.md...
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100 2017-09-25T10:06:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jl2012 opened pull request #11398: Hardcode CSV deployment (master...csvburied) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11398
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103 2017-09-25T10:17:00  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jl2012 opened pull request #11399: Fix bip68-sequence rpc test (master...bip68test-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11399
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109 2017-09-25T11:16:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a3b4c5943b31...2d858993035f
110 2017-09-25T11:16:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fd8f45f João Barbosa: [test] Add restart_node to BitcoinTestFramework
111 2017-09-25T11:16:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f6ffb14 João Barbosa: [test] Add getblockchaininfo functional test
112 2017-09-25T11:16:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2d85899 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11370: [test] Add getblockchaininfo functional test...
113 2017-09-25T11:17:19  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11370: [test] Add getblockchaininfo functional test (master...2017-09-add-getblockchaininfo-functional-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11370
114 2017-09-25T11:18:01  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11335: Replace save|restoreWindowGeometry with Qt functions (master...201709_fix_offscreen_2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11335
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155 2017-09-25T14:20:34  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jl2012 opened pull request #11400: [wallet] Remove segwit status check (master...postsegwitwallet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11400
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171 2017-09-25T14:43:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #11401: doc: move gitian building to external repo (master...Mf1708-docGitianFedora) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11401
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258 2017-09-25T18:59:35  <analiser> hi ppl any use bitcoinlib with core version 0.15 ?
259 2017-09-25T19:01:41  <analiser> python modules bitcoin & bitcoin.rpc going weird in new core versions
260 2017-09-25T19:02:58  <sipa> what's weird about it
261 2017-09-25T19:03:06  <analiser> any advise to handle bitcoin node in python will be appreciate
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263 2017-09-25T19:07:53  <analiser> bitcoin module no object has no attribute 'SelectParams'
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265 2017-09-25T19:08:42  <analiser> and bitcoin.rpc no att Proxy() anymore
266 2017-09-25T19:09:07  <sipa> i think you're confused... those are things implemented in the python side
267 2017-09-25T19:09:14  <analiser> yes
268 2017-09-25T19:09:20  <sipa> it has nothing to do with bitcoin core
269 2017-09-25T19:09:25  <analiser> just looking someone who use it
270 2017-09-25T19:09:33  <sipa> sorry, this is the wrong place
271 2017-09-25T19:09:44  <analiser> ok tk
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288 2017-09-25T20:00:09  <jcorgan> are there recommended alternatives to openssl for the libcrypto portion? mostly interested in AES, SHA2, HMAC, PBKDF2, no need for actual TLS
289 2017-09-25T20:00:19  <jcorgan> C++
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291 2017-09-25T20:20:52  <luke-jr> thoughts on moving the historical release notes to a separate repo, and not including them in the tarballs?
292 2017-09-25T20:21:14  <luke-jr> kinda just keeps making the tarballs bigger and bigger, for no real benefit
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299 2017-09-25T20:35:17  <maaku> Am I reading things correctly that SCRIPT_VERIFY_MINIMALDATA is not consensus enforced for CSV and CLTV?
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301 2017-09-25T20:53:34  <sipa> maaku: minimaldata is never a consensus rule
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309 2017-09-25T21:21:53  <maaku> hrm. then i apologize for that. there's no reason those should have used fRequireMinimal for decoding the locktime/sequence
310 2017-09-25T21:28:40  <sipa> i agree... just always assuming true there would have been better - though i don't think it matters very much
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339 2017-09-25T22:41:00  <maaku> What's the largest and smallest CScriptNums that can be created by existing opcodes?
340 2017-09-25T22:41:26  <maaku> sorry wrong channel
341 2017-09-25T22:45:31  <gmaxwell> ::sigh:: yet another person on reddit spreading the idea that btc1 need only get more hashrate and we'll move over to developing it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/72esf4/supporting_segwit2x_btc1_equals_abandoning_btc/dnhzawn/  Bluematt and I have responded saying nope.  If a few more people did it would become something good to link to.
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347 2017-09-25T23:05:54  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #11402: [wallet] Use shared pointer for wallet instances (master...2017-09-wallet-shared-pointer) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11402
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349 2017-09-25T23:08:34  <esotericnonsense> chucked in my 2c. tempted to go further, but i'll restrain myself.
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351 2017-09-25T23:11:45  <esotericnonsense> the whole 'developers will be forced to do x' attitude demonstrates a (wilful? strange, anyway) lack of understanding about how OSS development works
352 2017-09-25T23:13:21  <gmaxwell> I think for the vast majority of bitcoin users -- bitcoin is the only open source thing they've ever looked at in any detail.
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355 2017-09-25T23:22:38  <esotericnonsense> heh, i have a comment on that but i've rewritten it a few times and eventually conclude with 'individuals freedom is higher than you might think'.
356 2017-09-25T23:23:24  <esotericnonsense> on a basic level i'd probably go further and substitute 'open source thing' for 'software project'. similar arguments could be made for commercial stuff. there are things that an employer or client could ask me to do that would have me looking to move on as well, i don't think that's unusual and it seems obvious that it applies to most situations in which someone isn't in poverty.
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358 2017-09-25T23:25:15  <gmaxwell> esotericnonsense: one thing that I think might contribute to that is that software engineering is a pretty in demand skill, ... a lot of people are not so fortunate as to have skills that basically result in guarenteed employability.
359 2017-09-25T23:25:40  <esotericnonsense> yes, that's why i ended up rewriting a few times and couldn't come up with an adequate message that conveyed the edge cases
360 2017-09-25T23:28:02  <gmaxwell> I've seen that kind of thinking in some of the less trolly omg blockstream posts-- a kind of "sure it's all good now, but what if they tell you to do something evil later!"; as if employment is slavery or something, but to people who aren't fortunate, I suppose it can be.
361 2017-09-25T23:28:54  <goatpig> one thing i that dumbfounds me in the blockstream conspiracy theories is how oblivious these people are of the ecosystem
362 2017-09-25T23:29:07  <goatpig> there's a few layers between the chain and the end user
363 2017-09-25T23:29:12  <goatpig> that's not happening out of thin air
364 2017-09-25T23:29:13  <esotericnonsense> it's just a problem in society in general. the same attitudes are expressed when you see e.g. a 'high' salary for a skilled or difficult role.
365 2017-09-25T23:29:21  <goatpig> there are people invested in developing those layers
366 2017-09-25T23:30:30  <esotericnonsense> e.g. 'the police commissioner is paid too much, let's get someone else' and lose all of that knowledge. (just an arbitrary example, i don't know much about policing).
367 2017-09-25T23:30:51  <esotericnonsense> (or alternately lower the pay, as if they can't just go off and do something else, or retire, or any number of options)
368 2017-09-25T23:32:34  <esotericnonsense> basically yes, adversarial employment is a thing that warps views.
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370 2017-09-25T23:33:40  <goatpig> you can't talk of employement in half this ecosystem, most poeple in here just donate code outright to the project of their choice
371 2017-09-25T23:34:11  <goatpig> one would assume their motivations transcends the "follow the leader" mentality
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373 2017-09-25T23:50:53  <promag> luke-jr: sorry for the nits
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