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72017-10-19T00:51:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] JeremyRubin opened pull request #11523: [Refactor] CValidation State (master...dos-cleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11523
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692017-10-19T08:03:50 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] tjps opened pull request #11524: [net] De-duplicate connection eviction logic (master...tjps_eviction) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11524
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912017-10-19T09:29:41 <darthJarjar> hi to all
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952017-10-19T09:48:17 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] pierreN opened pull request #11525: Utils and libraries: fix warning -Wsign-compare in ConsumeDecimalNumber (master...fix_sign_compare_lvldb_logging) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11525
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972017-10-19T09:51:32 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #11525: Utils and libraries: fix warning -Wsign-compare in ConsumeDecimalNumber (master...fix_sign_compare_lvldb_logging) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11525
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1022017-10-19T10:13:06 <wallet42> Would it be a lot of change to have an -option so that when spending coins in the chainstate db instead of deleting the key, it will be renamed from c[txid][nout] to s[txid][nout] ? basically have it ever growing coins db?
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1042017-10-19T10:13:38 <wallet42> it would ease some of my analysis tools
1052017-10-19T10:21:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipsorcery opened pull request #11526: Visual Studio build configuration for Bitcoin Core. (master...build_msvc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11526
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1152017-10-19T10:49:34 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] schildbach opened pull request #11527: Remove my testnet DNS seed as I currently don't have the capacity to ⦠(master...remove-seed) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11527
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1422017-10-19T12:55:07 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/02ac8c892b1f...b9e1299f048d
1432017-10-19T12:55:08 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a86e81b Cory Fields: travis: move back to the minimal image...
1442017-10-19T12:55:08 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3d1c311 Cory Fields: Revert "travis: filter out pyenv"...
1452017-10-19T12:55:09 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b9e1299 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11521: travis: move back to the minimal image...
1462017-10-19T12:55:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11521: travis: move back to the minimal image (master...travis-minimal) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11521
1472017-10-19T12:56:09 <wumpus> cfields: ok, applied
1482017-10-19T12:56:12 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to 0.15: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1646f9c76036...ca0f3f734c46
1492017-10-19T12:56:12 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.15 b28415b Cory Fields: travis: move back to the minimal image...
1502017-10-19T12:56:13 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.15 ca0f3f7 Cory Fields: Revert "travis: filter out pyenv"...
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1522017-10-19T13:00:32 <wumpus> there are so many unmerged PRs tagged for 0.15.0.2, anything ready to merge?
1532017-10-19T13:02:09 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b9e1299f048d...13f53b750dc0
1542017-10-19T13:02:09 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 132d322 Andreas Schildbach: Remove my testnet DNS seed as I currently don't have the capacity to keep it up to date.
1552017-10-19T13:02:09 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 13f53b7 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11527: Remove my testnet DNS seed as I currently don't have the capacity to â¦...
1562017-10-19T13:02:38 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.15: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/a2bd86a5ff1d75d85089e4ba6c908ece83451c5c
1572017-10-19T13:02:39 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.15 a2bd86a Andreas Schildbach: Remove my testnet DNS seed as I currently don't have the capacity to keep it up to date....
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1592017-10-19T13:04:04 <wumpus> #11476 seems to be ready
1602017-10-19T13:04:06 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11476 | Avoid opening copied wallet databases simultaneously by ryanofsky · Pull Request #11476 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1612017-10-19T13:04:40 <sipa> ack
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1692017-10-19T14:06:32 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipsorcery opened pull request #11528: Minimal code changes to allow msvc compilation (master...code_msvc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11528
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1742017-10-19T14:31:04 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #11529: Avoid slow transaction search with txindex enabled (master...2017-10-txindex-get-transaction) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11529
1752017-10-19T14:32:27 <wumpus> huh didn't we already have that one
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1772017-10-19T14:39:40 <promag> I can make it one line too, just one "return false;" if txindex
1782017-10-19T14:40:13 <promag> the thing is, there is no point in doing the slow search if txindex is enabled and doesn't have the given txid
1792017-10-19T14:40:52 <sipa> i prefer promag's approach slightly more
1802017-10-19T14:41:20 <promag> also, I would like to discuss what locks are required in each case
1812017-10-19T14:41:35 <promag> for instance, cs_main is not required to mempool.get right?
1822017-10-19T14:42:40 <promag> dunno about pblocktree
1832017-10-19T14:44:32 <sipa> pblocktree requires cs_main
1842017-10-19T14:44:39 <sipa> mempool has its own lock
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1862017-10-19T14:47:58 <promag> and pcoinsTip?
1872017-10-19T14:48:01 <wumpus> I prefer the smaller change, especially as it already had so many utACKS, the rationale for re-doing it in another way now is unclear to me
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1892017-10-19T14:48:44 <sipa> promag: cs_main
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1912017-10-19T14:49:00 <wumpus> feel free to explain it though if there's cases that it covers and the other one doesn't, but the PR isn't very clear
1922017-10-19T14:49:27 <sipa> wumpus: there's no difference afaik - but it's cleaner that the dependency on txindex in localized in one place
1932017-10-19T14:49:36 <sipa> but really no strong opinion
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1952017-10-19T14:49:39 <wumpus> I mean the change is more complex and more ways to mess it up
1962017-10-19T14:50:14 <wumpus> it adds so much code!
1972017-10-19T14:50:24 <sipa> oh, the change is much bigger than i expected - i just knew the concept
1982017-10-19T14:50:27 <promag> wumpus: do you prefer this:
1992017-10-19T14:50:28 <promag> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/master...promag:2017-10-txindex-get-transaction-2?expand=1
2002017-10-19T14:50:35 <sipa> promag showed a much smaller change earlier
2012017-10-19T14:51:01 <wumpus> ow diffing with w=1 makes it better
2022017-10-19T14:51:26 <wumpus> still I don't see why so much logic needs to be changed for this
2032017-10-19T14:51:31 <sipa> still, what i saw earlier was 1 line
2042017-10-19T14:51:43 <sipa> but inside GetTransaction rather than in the caller
2052017-10-19T14:51:48 <promag> see last link
2062017-10-19T14:51:58 <wumpus> sounds good to me
2072017-10-19T14:52:06 <sipa> ^ that
2082017-10-19T14:53:24 <promag> done
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2102017-10-19T14:53:52 <promag> although I think we can only lock cs_main after mempool lookup
2112017-10-19T14:54:11 <sipa> you can hold both
2122017-10-19T14:54:23 <sipa> but you need to grab main first, if you need both
2132017-10-19T14:54:43 <promag> really?
2142017-10-19T14:54:48 <sipa> yes
2152017-10-19T14:54:55 <sipa> there exists a lock order
2162017-10-19T14:55:10 <promag> ah got it, so the other commit was wrong
2172017-10-19T14:55:25 <sipa> which means that if there is one place in the code where A is being held while B is being taken, you can't have another place where A is being taken while B is held
2182017-10-19T14:55:37 <promag> ok
2192017-10-19T14:55:44 <sipa> the opposite is called lock order inversion, and is a risk for deadlocking
2202017-10-19T14:56:17 <sipa> -DDEBUG_LOCKORDER automatically detects lock order inversions
2212017-10-19T14:57:06 <promag> thanks for the explanation
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2252017-10-19T15:03:36 <wumpus> is there something wrong with travis again or is everyone just submitting PRs that break it? :)
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2292017-10-19T15:22:07 <Chris_Stewart_5> Is there numbers any where of how long it takes to validate/verify a block w/ 0.15.0
2302017-10-19T15:22:48 <wumpus> -debug=bench
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2432017-10-19T16:10:26 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11507: [RPC] Don't do slow transaction lookup when txindex is enabled (master...getrawtx-txindex) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11507
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2492017-10-19T16:17:22 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/13f53b750dc0...99e93de6f8ab
2502017-10-19T16:17:22 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 478a89c Russell Yanofsky: Avoid opening copied wallet databases simultaneously...
2512017-10-19T16:17:23 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 99e93de Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11476: Avoid opening copied wallet databases simultaneously...
2522017-10-19T16:17:57 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11476: Avoid opening copied wallet databases simultaneously (master...pr/wid) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11476
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2552017-10-19T16:24:44 <promag> in travis, what's the point in running functional tests if make check fails?
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2622017-10-19T17:03:49 <cfields> heh, all 0.15.0.2 issues are pretty closely intertwined.
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2642017-10-19T17:04:11 <cfields> #topicsuggestion ^^ :)
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2672017-10-19T17:09:10 <wumpus> promag: the functional tests also don't work like that, if one test fails it continues with the rest. I guess it's useful to see exactly what tests fail.
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2692017-10-19T17:09:35 <wumpus> if it stops at the first failed test you need to re-run time after time after fixing a single test
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2932017-10-19T17:46:26 <ossifrage> That copy paste problem I reported earlier is an actual QT bug: "GUI: QXcbClipboard::setMimeData: Cannot set X11 selection owner"
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2972017-10-19T17:48:36 <ossifrage> It seems to have been triggered by running a second instance of firefox as another user.
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3002017-10-19T17:50:51 <ossifrage> It is possible that using the QClipboard wrapper instead of the QXcb* stuff will address some of these edge cases...
3012017-10-19T17:50:57 <wumpus> yea X has some interesting clipboard issues sometimes, especially combined with 'remote' windows, or with some software that tries to keep up to date with the clipboard and querying it all the time
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3032017-10-19T17:51:45 <ossifrage> This one was a bit of a usability issue and I ended up having to use bitcoin-cli to copy and paste addresses without screwing up
3042017-10-19T17:51:50 <wumpus> I'm sure we don't use QXcb clipboard stuff directly in our code
3052017-10-19T17:52:33 <wumpus> it's possible to build bitcoin-qt w/ wayland, for example, and the clipboard works
3062017-10-19T17:52:44 <ossifrage> firefox, chrome, xfce-terminal where all un-effected, but gnome-terminal and bitcoin-qt where
3072017-10-19T17:53:45 <wumpus> xclip is a useful tool to probe around with X clipboards, did you know it actually has three of them?
3082017-10-19T17:53:51 <ossifrage> wumpus, the clipboard worked fine, I use it extensively with bitcoin-qt, until I launched a 'lazy sandboxed' firefox as another user
3092017-10-19T17:54:24 <ossifrage> wumpus, yeah I tried to use xclip to clear all 3 hoping that would magically reset whatever permissions it was confused about, with no love
3102017-10-19T17:54:40 <wumpus> lol it's such a mess
3112017-10-19T17:55:03 <ossifrage> Restarting gnome-terminal fixed the problem for it, but I didn't want to restart bitcoin-qt
3122017-10-19T17:55:14 <wumpus> but hey windows has to be better at something :)
3132017-10-19T17:55:19 <ossifrage> (I have some sort of uptime/connection count fetish)
3142017-10-19T17:56:00 <ossifrage> I used to run X stuff over ssh tunnels for years and never remember having a problem like this...
3152017-10-19T17:56:24 <wumpus> I've had more clipboard issues with X than I can even remember
3162017-10-19T17:56:53 <ossifrage> Weirdness yes, but complete failure to work, not so much...
3172017-10-19T17:57:12 <wumpus> it's most fun VNC or xpra and remote windows get involved, sometimes they get into a loop updating
3182017-10-19T17:57:39 <cfields> ossifrage: huh, very interesting. my Konsole copy/paste quit working yesterday.
3192017-10-19T17:57:42 <wumpus> or sometimes you suddenly get old clipboard contents back
3202017-10-19T17:58:15 <ossifrage> wumpus, yeah I've seen that before and I think clipboard managers make the problem even worse
3212017-10-19T17:58:20 <wumpus> and copy some password into something that aboslutely shouldn't have it
3222017-10-19T17:58:30 <wumpus> ossifrage: yup like the one that KDE comes with
3232017-10-19T17:59:01 <ossifrage> wumpus, I have a shell alias for clearing the clipboard after pasting a password :p
3242017-10-19T18:00:09 <wumpus> cfields: interesting, maybe it's some recent update that made it worse
3252017-10-19T18:00:39 <cfields> sounds reasonable
3262017-10-19T18:01:25 <cfields> I didn't investigate much because i use vim's yank for the most part. I just chalked it up to a Konsole bug.
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3282017-10-19T18:05:23 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/99e93de6f8ab...ff92fbf24739
3292017-10-19T18:05:23 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7a5f930 João Barbosa: Avoid slow transaction search with txindex enabled
3302017-10-19T18:05:24 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ff92fbf Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11529: Avoid slow transaction search with txindex enabled...
3312017-10-19T18:05:31 <wumpus> heh if you use one of the -x11 variants of vim, yank will also copy to the X clipboard
3322017-10-19T18:05:53 <cfields> ah, neat
3332017-10-19T18:05:57 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11529: Avoid slow transaction search with txindex enabled (master...2017-10-txindex-get-transaction) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11529
3342017-10-19T18:07:05 <wumpus> well at least the clipboard becomes one of the yank registers, not the default one
3352017-10-19T18:07:23 <cfields> dammit, I've squashed/force-pushed this pr like 5 times now, I keep missing little things I forgot to address. I hope that's not blowing up anybody's mailbox?
3362017-10-19T18:07:53 <wumpus> oh wait, even two of them, + and *, for two differnt clipboards, of course
3372017-10-19T18:08:26 <wumpus> cfields: well not mine at least
3382017-10-19T18:09:02 <cfields> k. wasn't sure if you could subscribe to new commits, even if they're just a rebase
3392017-10-19T18:09:35 <wumpus> thinking of it, I don't get mails for pushes at all, just for comments
3402017-10-19T18:09:48 <wumpus> not that I know of
3412017-10-19T18:10:23 <cfields> I got them for pushes at some point. Can't remember if i turned it off for being to spammy, or if Github disabled that
3422017-10-19T18:10:31 <cfields> *too spammy
3432017-10-19T18:12:31 <achow101> I definitely get emails for new commits
3442017-10-19T18:12:33 <wumpus> you can enable mails for pushes to your repository https://help.github.com/articles/choosing-the-types-of-notifications-you-receive/
3452017-10-19T18:12:53 <wumpus> achow101: but also for PRs you're subscribed to?
3462017-10-19T18:13:01 <MarcoFalke> I get for pushes, but not for force pushes
3472017-10-19T18:13:14 <achow101> but there's a delay between pushing a commit or making a comment and then getting the email. I think github is smart enough to not send out too many mails if you make multiple pushes within a minute or two of each other
3482017-10-19T18:13:43 <achow101> wumpus: this is for PRs
3492017-10-19T18:14:01 <wumpus> ok, strange, well I don't really mind not getting them, I already get way too much mail
3502017-10-19T18:15:01 <cfields> achow101: ok. for future reference, did you just get about 5 from me for 11512? Or it skipped them all because they were force-pushes?
3512017-10-19T18:15:29 <cfields> er, 11457
3522017-10-19T18:15:54 <achow101> cfields: I did not get any emails about those force pushes
3532017-10-19T18:16:02 <cfields> great, thanks
3542017-10-19T18:18:26 <ryanofsky> i think github doesn't send "pushed commits" messages for prs when the new commits have the same subject lines as the old commits
3552017-10-19T18:21:14 <cfields> ryanofsky: well about 3 of my force-pushes right now were squashing "temp" and "fixup" commits that I accidentally left in. So it apparently doesn't notify on new ones, at least
3562017-10-19T18:21:38 <cfields> or, maybe only after some delay like achow101 said
3572017-10-19T18:22:58 <wumpus> it probably only mails when a new commit (or more) was added on top of the last known one
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3592017-10-19T18:23:18 <cfields> ah, that would make sense
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3702017-10-19T18:59:49 <wumpus> meeting time?
3712017-10-19T19:00:06 <jonasschnelli> jup
3722017-10-19T19:00:09 <meshcollider> Hi
3732017-10-19T19:00:32 <wumpus> #startmeeting
3742017-10-19T19:00:32 <lightningbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 19 19:00:32 2017 UTC. The chair is wumpus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
3752017-10-19T19:00:32 <lightningbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
3762017-10-19T19:00:34 <achow101> hi
3772017-10-19T19:00:53 <wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr btcdrak sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101
3782017-10-19T19:01:06 <cfields> hi
3792017-10-19T19:01:12 <sipa> mildly present
3802017-10-19T19:01:17 <kanzure> hi.
3812017-10-19T19:01:20 <wumpus> primary topic I suppose is 0.15.0.2
3822017-10-19T19:01:34 <wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+milestone%3A0.15.0.2
3832017-10-19T19:02:23 <wumpus> anything that is close to merging, or that needs further discussion?
3842017-10-19T19:03:25 <cfields> BlueMatt: are you around to fill in some of the cb interactions with those PRs? They're hard to review because of subtleties I assume I'm not fully accounting for.
3852017-10-19T19:03:27 <achow101> I wasn't able to do as much as I wanted to this week because of exams. I'll fix up #11446 later today hopefully
3862017-10-19T19:03:29 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11446 | Disconnect Peers for Duplicate Invalid blocks. by achow101 · Pull Request #11446 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3872017-10-19T19:04:04 <BlueMatt> sdaftuar: (and somewhat I) worked out a replacement for #11487, that I need to rewrite and close the original
3882017-10-19T19:04:05 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11487 | Check that new headers are not a descendant of an invalid block by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #11487 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3902017-10-19T19:04:37 <BlueMatt> so I'll do that a bit later
3912017-10-19T19:05:02 <wumpus> ok
3922017-10-19T19:05:03 <sdaftuar> i updated #11490 with some bug fixes and addressed feedback. i also added a unit test that passes locally but fails in travis :( workin gon it...
3932017-10-19T19:05:05 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11490 | Disconnect from outbound peers with bad headers chains by sdaftuar · Pull Request #11490 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3952017-10-19T19:05:43 <wumpus> great!
3962017-10-19T19:06:27 <wumpus> travis has been having some issues the last few days, be sure it's related to your pull and not some intermittent problem
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3982017-10-19T19:08:28 <wumpus> any other topics?
3992017-10-19T19:08:53 <achow101> any updates on segwit wallet stuff?
4002017-10-19T19:09:24 <wumpus> I doubt anyone has been working on that w/ the .2 release rushed before
4012017-10-19T19:09:40 <sipa> i've been distracted the past week
4022017-10-19T19:09:48 <achow101> ok
4032017-10-19T19:09:52 <wumpus> will get back to that when sanity has returned
4042017-10-19T19:09:58 <jnewbery> topic suggestion: Chaincode Residency (sorry for the shameless plug)
4052017-10-19T19:10:08 <sipa> next week i'll have more time (i'm in europe until the end of the month)
4062017-10-19T19:10:30 <wumpus> #topic Chaincode Residency
4072017-10-19T19:10:40 <jnewbery> Thanks!
4082017-10-19T19:10:55 <jnewbery> We're hosting another residency program in Jan/Feb 2018: http://hackerresidency.com/ https://medium.com/@ChaincodeLabs/chaincode-residency-2018-26cd8a65d5f7
4092017-10-19T19:11:22 <jnewbery> If you know anyone who might be suitable, please refer them to the website
4102017-10-19T19:11:26 <jnewbery> end topic
4112017-10-19T19:11:40 <wumpus> ok!
4122017-10-19T19:12:00 <cfields> woohoo! We'll be expecting at least 1 new jnewbery and 1 new ryanofsky.
4132017-10-19T19:12:11 <jnewbery> 1 jnewbery is quite enough
4142017-10-19T19:12:22 <wumpus> hehe
4152017-10-19T19:12:34 <jonasschnelli> ;-.)
4162017-10-19T19:12:48 <sipa> jnewbery: how do you know? have you ever met one?
4172017-10-19T19:12:48 <cfields> heh
4182017-10-19T19:13:01 <wumpus> doppelganger
4192017-10-19T19:13:09 <wumpus> okay, anyone else have anything to discuss?
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4212017-10-19T19:14:07 <jnewbery> sipa: I've been informed that 1 is at the upper range of most people's tolerance
4222017-10-19T19:15:27 <meshcollider> Hmm might be good to briefly discuss what the plan is for #7729 and #11497
4232017-10-19T19:15:30 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/7729 | rpc: introduce label API for wallet by laanwj · Pull Request #7729 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4242017-10-19T19:15:31 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11497 | Hide accounts system behind deprecation switch by achow101 · Pull Request #11497 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4252017-10-19T19:15:31 <wumpus> well as long as they keep the great patches coming :)
4262017-10-19T19:16:07 <wumpus> needs to be rebased and merged :p
4272017-10-19T19:16:21 <achow101> meshcollider: I'm thinking they should probably be done simultaneously. 11947 should probably be part of 7729
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4292017-10-19T19:16:27 <jonasschnelli> Plans to rebase 7729 or waiting until someone picks it up?
4302017-10-19T19:16:41 <wumpus> sorry, yes, I really need to push it the last bit
4312017-10-19T19:16:47 <jnewbery> I'm not convinced on the approach for 11497 (using -deprecatedprc)
4322017-10-19T19:17:02 <jonasschnelli> wumpus: thanks!
4332017-10-19T19:17:24 <wumpus> jnewbery: what is your concern with it?
4342017-10-19T19:17:39 <jnewbery> Seems to me that the account/label switch is conceptually on the level of the wallet, not on the level of the node
4352017-10-19T19:17:56 <sipa> today again a user on SE who was confused about accounts
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4372017-10-19T19:18:18 <jnewbery> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11497#issuecomment-336991350
4382017-10-19T19:18:31 <jonasschnelli> lables / account are completely on the wallet level... yes.
4392017-10-19T19:19:15 <wumpus> yes, they're at the wallet level, I agree
4402017-10-19T19:19:26 <jnewbery> I don't think 11497 addresses the problem of migrating from an account system to a label system, although I may not have fully understood what the plan is
4412017-10-19T19:19:38 <achow101> yeah, I agree with that. 11497 was really just done in a fit of anger after I got too fed up with handling account things
4422017-10-19T19:19:39 <wumpus> though from the perspective of the database there's no difference, accounts and labels use the same underlying strucures
4432017-10-19T19:19:50 <meshcollider> Agreed but there were concerns bumping the wallet version because of HD wallets right
4442017-10-19T19:20:04 <sipa> meshcollider: has nothing to do with accounts
4452017-10-19T19:20:22 <wumpus> it doesn't need a new wallet version
4462017-10-19T19:20:23 <jnewbery> meshcollider: yes. Is now a good time to raise the topic of feature flags on wallets?
4472017-10-19T19:20:41 <meshcollider> Oh I thought that was discussed in 7729
4482017-10-19T19:20:43 <wumpus> accounts do not introduce any new wallet features , at least this first incarnation simply does what the GUI does
4492017-10-19T19:20:43 <achow101> meshcollider: it's the same database structures, so that shouldn't matter
4502017-10-19T19:21:24 <meshcollider> Yeah I thought 7729 comments were discussing using the version number as a flag for the label/account switch
4512017-10-19T19:21:25 <wumpus> people are requesting things like allowing multiple labels for one address, which would need extensions to functionality, but the current one is simply what is already done by the GUI
4522017-10-19T19:21:33 <jonasschnelli> (another topic, but): we can bump the wallet version because all new wallets now must be HD, right?
4532017-10-19T19:21:34 <wumpus> seems unnecessary
4542017-10-19T19:21:37 <sipa> i think using -deprecatedrpc is fine for accounts - it's literally just removing some functionality
4552017-10-19T19:21:49 <wumpus> sipa: yeah, it removes functionaltiy from the RPC interface
4562017-10-19T19:21:52 <sipa> but we may first need to add label-based RPCs
4572017-10-19T19:21:53 <wumpus> it's an RPC interface thing
4582017-10-19T19:22:06 <wumpus> sipa: yes, 7729 needs to go in first
4592017-10-19T19:22:09 <sipa> okay
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4622017-10-19T19:22:29 <wumpus> then the flag can select between the old account based interface and the new label based one
4632017-10-19T19:22:47 <wumpus> at least for 0.16, in 0.17 I suppose the old interface will simply go away
4642017-10-19T19:22:48 <achow101> maybe we should use a different flag than -deprecatedrpc
4652017-10-19T19:23:05 <meshcollider> So yeah jnewbery topic suggestion of wallet feature flags?
4662017-10-19T19:23:22 <wumpus> this won't lose compatiblity with old wallets
4672017-10-19T19:23:30 <wumpus> it just will lose access to any account info in them
4682017-10-19T19:23:45 <sipa> right, it's not a wallet feature
4692017-10-19T19:23:48 <wumpus> so it's not really a wallet versioning thing
4702017-10-19T19:23:49 <jonasschnelli> meshcollider: no flags required for the label/account switch (only changes on functional level)
4712017-10-19T19:23:55 <sipa> it's a sofrware feature that can be turned on or off
4722017-10-19T19:24:17 <jnewbery> ok, so it sounds like it's not necessary for accounts/labels. I'll go back and look at 7729 again.
4732017-10-19T19:24:50 * achow101 is confused now
4742017-10-19T19:25:23 <wumpus> #action implement and merge the label api finally
4752017-10-19T19:25:26 <wumpus> ok, next topic?
4762017-10-19T19:25:28 <sipa> achow101: the big idea is that all accounts functionality remains under the name "label", except the concept of an acount balance
4772017-10-19T19:25:47 <achow101> sipa: so it is a node thing and not wallet based?
4782017-10-19T19:25:53 <sipa> achow101: wut?
4792017-10-19T19:25:59 <sipa> achow101: no, it's an RPC thing
4802017-10-19T19:26:07 <sipa> the wallet or node are unaffected
4812017-10-19T19:26:12 <wumpus> right
4822017-10-19T19:26:24 <achow101> s/node thing/rpc thing/
4832017-10-19T19:26:30 <sipa> right
4842017-10-19T19:26:33 <jonasschnelli> the wallet structure is unaffected although the wallet code is
4852017-10-19T19:26:48 <sipa> is it?
4862017-10-19T19:27:04 <sipa> i wouldn't expect it to (until it is deleted entirely)
4872017-10-19T19:27:04 <jonasschnelli> if we consider rpcwallet as wallet code
4882017-10-19T19:27:04 <wumpus> some small changes are necessary
4892017-10-19T19:27:07 <sipa> ok
4902017-10-19T19:27:16 <sipa> anyway, details
4912017-10-19T19:27:26 <sipa> i'm going off soo
4922017-10-19T19:27:31 <jonasschnelli> meshcollider: in case you want to work on wallet flags (there is already a closed PR) #8369
4932017-10-19T19:27:31 <wumpus> there's some functionaltiy that would be in the label API but the GUI doesn't use at the moment, from what I remember, but anyhow yeah it's minimal
4942017-10-19T19:27:33 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/8369 | [FOR LATER USE][WIP][Wallet] add support for a flexible "set of features" by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #8369 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4952017-10-19T19:28:00 <jnewbery> Last comment from wumpus in 7729 included "Either label or account RPCs could be usable based on the wallet version." I think we probably need to look at that PR again to refresh our memories (I certainly do)
4962017-10-19T19:28:11 <meshcollider> jonasschnelli: Oh right, I'll have a look
4972017-10-19T19:28:14 <sipa> okay
4982017-10-19T19:28:16 <wumpus> jnewbery: what a dumb comment!
4992017-10-19T19:28:34 <wumpus> going to remove it immediately :-)
5002017-10-19T19:28:34 <jnewbery> I think it was in response to me, more as a 'this is how it could possibly work'
5012017-10-19T19:28:41 <sipa> pffft, fact based analysis, how boring
5022017-10-19T19:28:48 <meshcollider> Yeah that comments probably what I was thinking of
5032017-10-19T19:29:36 <wumpus> back then I probably thought using the wallet version was a useful way of doing that flagging, but I reconsider
5042017-10-19T19:29:49 <achow101> well now we have -deprecatedrpc
5052017-10-19T19:30:03 <sipa> right
5062017-10-19T19:30:07 <wumpus> yes
5072017-10-19T19:30:58 <sipa> no more topics?
5082017-10-19T19:31:06 <wumpus> nope
5092017-10-19T19:31:18 <sipa> #halfameeting
5102017-10-19T19:31:27 <wumpus> #endmeeting
5112017-10-19T19:31:27 <lightningbot> Meeting ended Thu Oct 19 19:31:27 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
5122017-10-19T19:31:27 <lightningbot> Minutes: http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2017/bitcoin-core-dev.2017-10-19-19.00.html
5132017-10-19T19:31:27 <lightningbot> Minutes (text): http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2017/bitcoin-core-dev.2017-10-19-19.00.txt
5142017-10-19T19:31:27 <lightningbot> Log: http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2017/bitcoin-core-dev.2017-10-19-19.00.log.html
5152017-10-19T19:32:06 <achow101> review/merge beg on #11415 #10583 #10579 (rpc split things for removing #ifdef enable wallet)
5162017-10-19T19:32:08 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11415 | [RPC] Disallow using addresses in createmultisig by achow101 · Pull Request #11415 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
5172017-10-19T19:32:10 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10583 | [RPC] Split part of validateaddress into getaddressinfo by achow101 · Pull Request #10583 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
5182017-10-19T19:32:13 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10579 | [RPC] Split signrawtransaction into wallet and non-wallet RPC command by achow101 · Pull Request #10579 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
5192017-10-19T19:32:26 <wumpus> or alternatively, everyone should be reviewing 0.15.0.2 PRs
5202017-10-19T19:32:46 <achow101> that too
5212017-10-19T19:33:09 <wumpus> we have kind of a strict deadline there
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5412017-10-19T20:21:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #11530: Add share/rpcuser to dist. source code archive (master...Mf1710-distShare) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11530
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5552017-10-19T21:02:19 <earlz> In GetTime(), it uses time(NULL)'s result directly. The returned value doesn't appear to be standard guaranteed to be UTC/unix time though. Shouldn't GetTime use gmtime or something similar to correct ofr this?
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5622017-10-19T21:15:52 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] TheBlueMatt opened pull request #11531: Check that new headers are not a descendant of an invalid block (more effeciently) (master...2017-10-cache-invalid-indexes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11531
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5922017-10-19T22:38:09 <meshcollider> That should be added to 0.15.0.2 milestone ^
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6122017-10-19T23:20:18 <Alkhara> Anyone local to the Boston area?
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