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 192017-12-12T00:29:03  <pierre_rochard> Does each wallet in vpwallets have a unique identifier?
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 512017-12-12T02:48:21  <kallewoof> I had no idea nodes randomly rebroadcasted other people's transactions. Double spending is the only solution then. (Another case for RBF default on)
 522017-12-12T02:48:57  <sipa> kallewoof: some sites do
 532017-12-12T02:49:04  <sipa> though in general, nodes don't
 542017-12-12T02:49:12  <sipa> there is nothing to prevent them to, though
 552017-12-12T02:49:31  <sipa> and i think we'd be better off if there was some mempool synchronization that levelled the field
 562017-12-12T02:49:33  <kallewoof> Just see no reason for them to do it.
 572017-12-12T02:50:19  <kallewoof> Mempool synchronization? Like what?
 582017-12-12T02:51:46  <phantomcircuit> sipa, there are nodes that rebroadcast transactions seemingly on a timer
 592017-12-12T02:52:00  <gmaxwell> kallewoof: bitcoin core doesn't rebroadcast third party txn, but random bozos do, because they think they're helping in some cases, or because they want to pump up mempool stats. or god knows why
 602017-12-12T02:52:25  <phantomcircuit> either way, transactions do not expire
 612017-12-12T02:52:39  <gmaxwell> mempool sync is discussed some here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1377345.0
 622017-12-12T02:54:04  <kallewoof> gmaxwell: Ohh, okay. Thanks! (I should be on bitcointalk more often I guess)
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 642017-12-12T03:04:36  <phantomcircuit> kallewoof, i'd generally advise against that unless you filter for pre 2014
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 832017-12-12T04:11:59  <kallewoof> meshcollider: That's unfortunate.
 842017-12-12T04:38:36  <sipa> kallewoof: i think i stopped frequenting bitcointalk in 2012 maybe
 852017-12-12T04:38:56  <sipa> or 2013
 862017-12-12T04:39:06  <gmaxwell> it's no worse than the mailing list now.
 872017-12-12T04:39:45  <gmaxwell> actually, I think it's better. There are a lot of dull and repetative posts on both, but BCT more promptly gets replies directing people to the last 20 times the material was discussed.
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1462017-12-12T07:26:57  <Provoostenator> sipa: so both the minimum fee required to get in the mempool and to bump transactions are both set by minrelayfee, but because there's also an MB limit to the mempool per node, that determines the effective minimum for the former?
1472017-12-12T07:28:20  <sipa> Provoostenator: run getmempoolinfo
1482017-12-12T07:29:24  <sipa> if your mempool is full, it will report a nonzero minrelayfee
1492017-12-12T07:30:05  <sipa> any time a transaction is kicked out of the mempool, the new relay fee is raised to the fee of what was kicked out
1502017-12-12T07:30:11  <sipa> and then it decays slowly back to 0
1512017-12-12T07:30:35  <Provoostenator> Ok, so it's more than an emergent property from the fact that low fees are kicked out.
1522017-12-12T07:34:29  <sipa> the goal is to have it carefully actually track the lowest acceptable feerate for your mempool
1532017-12-12T07:34:39  <sipa> which doesn't work if the mempool is always empty ;)
1542017-12-12T07:35:32  <Provoostenator> If people change their mempool size to something not standard, doesn't that create a fingerprinting opportunity?
1552017-12-12T07:36:36  <sipa> yup
1562017-12-12T07:37:09  <sipa> nodes even communicate their approximate minimum feerate to each other
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1582017-12-12T07:55:43  <Provoostenator> sipa: I'm doing a fresh make clean and make now to see if I can reproduce the test error. I did that yesterday as well, but I wonder how reproducable it is.
1592017-12-12T07:56:06  <sipa> Provoostenator: also wipe your test cache
1602017-12-12T07:56:19  <sipa> (test/cache directory)
1612017-12-12T07:56:34  <Provoostenator> Ah, why doesn't make clean do that?
1622017-12-12T07:56:44  <sipa> because make clean removes the results of make
1632017-12-12T07:56:53  <sipa> the test cache isn't produced by make
1642017-12-12T07:57:15  <Provoostenator> make nuke?
1652017-12-12T07:57:32  <sipa> PR's welcome :p
1662017-12-12T07:58:28  <Provoostenator> I can try. Do have an objection to make clean doing this? Or should it be another command? I can't see why anyone would possibly want to keep the test cache around after running make clean.
1672017-12-12T07:59:51  <sipa> cfields: opinions? ^
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1692017-12-12T08:07:48  <sipa> Provoostenator: did removing the cache help?
1702017-12-12T08:07:57  <sipa> if that's the case, that's unexpected on its own
1712017-12-12T08:08:13  <Provoostenator> sipa: my machine is not that fast; I'll tell you in 15 minutes or so :-)
1722017-12-12T08:08:26  <Provoostenator> But I'd that's safe to assume.
1732017-12-12T08:08:59  <Provoostenator> Oh ok, so the cache is supposed to be wiped? I'll see ifI can break that.
1742017-12-12T08:09:09  <Provoostenator> I wish Github emails would should show the comment someone replied to, so it's easier to tell what "fixed" refers to. I'll stalk them.
1752017-12-12T08:09:12  <sipa> no, wiping the cache _should not_ matter for this
1762017-12-12T08:09:37  <sipa> i'm just saying that before jumping to conclusions, you should try to reproduce with an empty cache
1772017-12-12T08:09:51  <Provoostenator> That's what I meant. I'll try if wiping helps, but it shouldn't. Make is running as we speak.
1782017-12-12T08:10:07  <sipa> install ccache
1792017-12-12T08:10:12  <Provoostenator> (I've learned not to assume stuff :-)
1802017-12-12T08:10:23  <sipa> no need to recompile from scratch every time you switch branches
1812017-12-12T08:10:56  <Provoostenator> Generally I don't recompile everything. In this case I just wanted to make sure everything was clean and it wasn't some build problem.
1822017-12-12T08:11:12  <Provoostenator> I'll try ccache
1832017-12-12T08:11:52  <sipa> if ccache is installed, configure will automatically detect and use it
1842017-12-12T08:11:58  <Provoostenator> Any good tools that can leverage other machines (e.g. EC2 nodes) to speed op compilation?
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1862017-12-12T08:12:18  <sipa> distcc i guess, but i never really looked into that
1872017-12-12T08:12:46  <sipa> it's fast enough on an octacore machine :)
1882017-12-12T08:13:16  <Provoostenator> Don't make me quote CSW :-)
1892017-12-12T08:13:21  <sipa> hahaha
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1922017-12-12T08:27:09  <Provoostenator> sipa: your comment about why self.nodes[0].generate(1) was needed just solved another mystery for me: https://medium.com/provoost-on-crypto/debugging-bitcoin-core-functional-tests-cc0aa6e7fd3e
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1942017-12-12T08:29:59  <Provoostenator> I'll see if I can make sync_mempools() throw a warning if you call it during IDB.
1952017-12-12T08:32:47  <Provoostenator> And it would be nice to have a command to tell test nodes IDB is done without mining a block (cc jnewbery).
1962017-12-12T08:34:35  <aj> Provoostenator: you mean IBD (initial block download), or is IDB something i don't know about?
1972017-12-12T08:34:58  <Provoostenator> I need to stop making that typo. Yes, IBD, IDB is a record company :-)
1982017-12-12T08:35:37  <Provoostenator> (or whatever it is)
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2052017-12-12T08:57:48  <Provoostenator> sipa: address_types.py passes now. I'll make a Github ticket next time I notice when removing test cache fixes a test.
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2092017-12-12T09:11:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0e722e8879a8...c0902624b0ec
2102017-12-12T09:11:28  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2851b77 Pieter Wuille: Make all script verification flags softforks
2112017-12-12T09:11:28  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2dd6f80 Pieter Wuille: Add a test that all flags are softforks
2122017-12-12T09:11:29  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 01013f5 Pieter Wuille: Simplify tx validation tests
2132017-12-12T09:11:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10699: Make all script validation flags backward compatible (master...20170628_softflags) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10699
2142017-12-12T09:15:00  <sipa> o/
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2162017-12-12T09:18:19  <wumpus> \o
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2212017-12-12T09:28:26  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c0902624b0ec...d48ab83f0053
2222017-12-12T09:28:27  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 07c4838 Matt Corallo: Always return true if AppInitMain got to the end...
2232017-12-12T09:28:27  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d48ab83 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11831: Always return true if AppInitMain got to the end...
2242017-12-12T09:29:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11831: Always return true if AppInitMain got to the end (master...2017-12-startup-exit-return-code-race) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11831
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2272017-12-12T09:51:12  <Provoostenator> p2p_full_blocktests failing on me with AssertionError: 1513072096.035577 <= 1513072096.086564
2282017-12-12T09:51:51  <Provoostenator> Slightly differtent numbers is another run: 1513070202.4765592 <= 1513070202.517996
2292017-12-12T09:52:16  <wumpus> uhoh
2302017-12-12T09:52:17  <Provoostenator> (on the segwit branch, I'll try master as well)
2312017-12-12T09:52:44  <wumpus> was it one of the recent commits?
2322017-12-12T09:53:09  <Provoostenator> Most recent version #11403
2332017-12-12T09:53:15  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11403 | SegWit wallet support by sipa · Pull Request #11403 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2342017-12-12T09:54:14  <Provoostenator> I am running make in another process, so maybe it's a timing thing?
2352017-12-12T09:54:20  <Provoostenator> I'll play around with it.
2362017-12-12T09:54:58  <Provoostenator> (make in another process, but also a different directory, so I mean perhaps heavy CPU / disk usage messes with the tests)
2372017-12-12T09:57:49  <wumpus> tests failures due to timing are unfortunately quite common
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2402017-12-12T10:05:42  <wumpus> it passes here locally
2412017-12-12T10:05:47  <wumpus> (on current master)
2422017-12-12T10:06:16  <Provoostenator> Travis is happy too, so it's obviously not deterministic.
2432017-12-12T10:11:50  <wumpus> yes I've been running it a few times on different hosts
2442017-12-12T10:18:14  <Provoostenator> Are there any good tools to generate disk / cpu background usage? (other than running an Ethereum full node :-)
2452017-12-12T10:18:43  <sipa> cpuburn
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2472017-12-12T10:28:31  <aj> wumpus: hey, i think i found a bug in the util unit test, that's been there since 2f7f2a in 2011; https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11862/commits/56ca063fd65e05b8b71fa5421592cb9f56cd4d09 (argc < length(argv), so non-option behaviour isn't actually tested)
2482017-12-12T10:30:20  <wumpus> aj: cool, please send a fix :)
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2502017-12-12T10:34:27  <wumpus> Provoostenator: do you get it on master too?
2512017-12-12T10:34:49  <Provoostenator> wumpus: yes, just did
2522017-12-12T10:35:16  <terrence> I want to develop a wallet, how can I get the lowest level api, or interface? instead of existing wrapped apis
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2562017-12-12T10:38:29  <wumpus> terrence: the lowest level would be to implement transaction serialization, deserialization, signing, as well as keeping the balance and unspent state up to date with the current status of the block chain yourself
2572017-12-12T10:39:21  <promag> wumpus: not sure if that is what he means
2582017-12-12T10:40:00  <promag> terrence: do you know bitcoind rpc interface?
2592017-12-12T10:40:19  <wumpus> promag: lol, let's leave that to them instead of arguing about it between us
2602017-12-12T10:41:09  <promag> heh, "existing wrapped apis" I guess he is talking about some client library or web api.. dunno... *flys away*
2612017-12-12T10:43:16  <promag> wumpus: should replace in Assert with annotation in #11515?
2622017-12-12T10:43:18  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11515 | Assert cs_main is held when retrieving node state by promag · Pull Request #11515 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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2652017-12-12T10:44:05  <promag> or keep both?
2662017-12-12T10:44:07  <terrence> @promag  sorry, I dont know, I'm new to blockchain dev
2672017-12-12T10:44:27  <wumpus> promag: well BlueMatt has a point that if it can be checked compile time,there's no point doing it at run time
2682017-12-12T10:44:55  <wumpus> promag: personally I wouldn't remove the comment though
2692017-12-12T10:45:09  <wumpus> promag: 'this datastructure is protected by lock X' is useful information
2702017-12-12T10:45:21  <promag> terrence: see https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-reference#remote-procedure-calls-rpcs for instance
2712017-12-12T10:45:40  <wumpus> however a GUARDED_BY annotation does the same
2722017-12-12T10:45:48  <wumpus> and is checked by the compiler, unlike a comment
2732017-12-12T10:46:14  <Provoostenator> Deleting cache doesn't help either. Getting this error quite consistently now.
2742017-12-12T10:46:14  <promag> yes, the comment is redundant
2752017-12-12T10:46:21  <wumpus> IF you add the annotation
2762017-12-12T10:46:23  <terrence> promag: thank you, how did you
2772017-12-12T10:46:42  <wumpus> I don't agree that the AssertLockHeld in one function makes the comment redundant
2782017-12-12T10:47:05  <terrence> I have so many questions that I cannot find on the internet...
2792017-12-12T10:47:06  <wumpus> locks protect data, not code
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2812017-12-12T10:47:50  <wumpus> so the annotation or comment belongs at the data structure definition
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2832017-12-12T10:48:52  <promag> terrence: you have to dig, learn, experiment.. you are not in the matrix
2842017-12-12T10:49:28  <promag> wumpus: what I meant is to keep the assert and replace the comment with the annotation
2852017-12-12T10:49:55  <wumpus> I'm ok with that
2862017-12-12T10:50:06  <promag> it conflicts with https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11226/files#diff-eff7adeaec73a769788bb78858815c91R272
2872017-12-12T10:50:12  <terrence> promag: exactly, I'm new to blockchain, but I'm fascinated by blockchain
2882017-12-12T10:50:30  <wumpus> althoug in principle the assert is redundant when the annotation is there, but it doesn't hurt to have it so I don't find it worth a long discussion
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2902017-12-12T10:50:41  <wumpus> better to be overcomplete here
2912017-12-12T10:50:46  <promag> terrence: then join #bitcoin instead
2922017-12-12T10:51:42  <promag> wumpus: I agree, if asserts can be removed when annotations are in place
2932017-12-12T10:52:09  <wumpus> promag: it's somewhat complicated because not all compilers check the annotations
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2952017-12-12T10:52:32  <promag> so that's a +1 for assert
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2972017-12-12T10:53:45  <terrence> promag: I did, seems no one active in there
2982017-12-12T10:54:14  <promag> terrence: try #bitcoin-dev
2992017-12-12T10:54:36  <wumpus> #bitcoin is the most busy channel in the bitcoin community,  if no one is active there you're just at the wrong time
3002017-12-12T10:55:48  <terrence> wumpus: okay... maybe wrong time
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3022017-12-12T10:58:07  <promag> wumpus: if you're bored #11870
3032017-12-12T10:58:08  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11870 | wallet: Remove unnecessary mempool lock in ReacceptWalletTransactions by promag · Pull Request #11870 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3042017-12-12T10:58:54  <promag> pushed #11515
3052017-12-12T10:58:56  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11515 | Assert cs_main is held when retrieving node state by promag · Pull Request #11515 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3062017-12-12T10:59:19  <wumpus> I'm never bored
3072017-12-12T10:59:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11354: Coins DB: Improve handling of FRESH child with non-DIRTY parent in CCoinsViewCa… (master...fix/batch-write-clean-parent-fresh-child) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11354
3082017-12-12T11:00:07  <wumpus> so many things to do and so little time/energy
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3102017-12-12T11:01:38  <promag> wumpus: are you talking about 234 open PR's? :p
3112017-12-12T11:01:45  <wumpus> for ex.
3122017-12-12T11:02:13  <fanquake> The amount of stuff I see wumpus star on GH he must have about 5 side projects on the go
3132017-12-12T11:02:56  <wumpus> that's... about right :)
3142017-12-12T11:03:43  <fanquake> Plenty todo with graphics cards and their drivers/related software.
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3162017-12-12T11:21:19  <promag> ah I guess you don't have kids
3172017-12-12T11:24:04  <promag> wumpus: "I think both ways should be supported for the foreseeable future, no need to deprecate anything right now" why keep legacy? in 3 releases it should not be there IMO
3182017-12-12T11:24:39  <wumpus> because we don't want to break people's software just because
3192017-12-12T11:25:06  <wumpus> the current way apparently works for everyone well. I kind of hate RPC PRs that break the interface just because the author likes some convention better.
3202017-12-12T11:25:33  <wumpus> I personally would prefer using arrays as well there but that doesn't mean that all previously written software that uses createrawtransaction shoudl break
3212017-12-12T11:26:20  <wumpus> it's just an alternative way of specifying the same data
3222017-12-12T11:26:43  <promag> I don't think overloading is that great
3232017-12-12T11:26:59  <wumpus> fine, I'll just NACK the whole change then
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3252017-12-12T11:27:19  <promag> heh
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3272017-12-12T11:27:35  <wumpus> keep the users in mind please
3282017-12-12T11:28:51  <promag> in these cases I tend to prefer new calls instead of overloading
3292017-12-12T11:28:59  <wumpus> which would be bs in this case
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3352017-12-12T11:37:27  <meshcollider> which PR are you discussing
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3372017-12-12T11:38:07  <meshcollider> oh, #11872 ?
3382017-12-12T11:38:08  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11872 | [rpc] createrawtransaction: Accept sorted outputs by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #11872 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3392017-12-12T11:43:26  <wumpus> FWIW in principle it is already possible to specify the order of outputs, but only if the client-side JSON library can emit ordered dictionaries. Python's can do this when you use Collections.OrderedDict() instead of a dictionary. The server-side (univalue) won't reorder dictionaries. But using an array is conforming to the spec instead of 'it happens to work'.
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3492017-12-12T12:10:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 5 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d48ab83f0053...ad1820cbad15
3502017-12-12T12:10:31  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5fc6e71 John Newbery: [tests] Add network_thread_ utility functions....
3512017-12-12T12:10:32  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 74e64f2 John Newbery: [tests] Use network_thread_start() in tests.
3522017-12-12T12:10:32  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 34e08b3 John Newbery: [tests] Fix network threading in functional tests...
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3622017-12-12T12:25:54  <promag> wumpus: OrderedDict doesn't allow to test duplicate output address
3632017-12-12T12:26:28  <wumpus> promag: that's true :)
3642017-12-12T12:26:41  <promag> how would we test that atm?
3652017-12-12T12:26:52  <wumpus> promag: I think python will let you write a dictionary class that can hold duplicate keys
3662017-12-12T12:27:32  <promag> there is defaultdict
3672017-12-12T12:27:38  <wumpus> alternatively, write the query yourself, insert raw json somehow
3682017-12-12T12:27:55  <wumpus> defaultdict doesn't allow that afaik
3692017-12-12T12:28:34  <wumpus> what you'd want is a list-kind of class with a custom json serializer that serializes as object
3702017-12-12T12:28:43  <wumpus> not sure how to do that or whether it's even possible
3712017-12-12T12:29:20  <promag> raw it is
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3732017-12-12T12:38:24  <wumpus> promag: this seems to work https://gist.github.com/laanwj/822e1d8684a7ffc20cf08156654b37f7
3742017-12-12T12:38:32  <Provoostenator> I forgot that I used ./configure --enable-debug. The weird test functional errors I described above when I remove that (followed by make clean && make). They issues come back when I set --enable-debug again.
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3762017-12-12T12:39:01  <wumpus> Provoostenator: that's very strange
3772017-12-12T12:39:19  <Provoostenator> They also run a lot slower with debug enabled, so that might be related.
3782017-12-12T12:39:26  <wumpus> --enable-debug does make locking a lot slower, so if it's some kind of race condition, it could be triggered by that
3792017-12-12T12:39:29  <wumpus> right.
3802017-12-12T12:39:30  <Provoostenator> I'll run again with jnewbery's latest commits you just merged
3812017-12-12T12:41:17  <promag> wumpus: nice, are you going to add the test or mind I do?
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3912017-12-12T13:37:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 7 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ad1820cbad15...214046f69b19
3922017-12-12T13:37:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 93a34cf Matt Corallo: Make DisconnectBlock unaware of where undo data resides on disk
3932017-12-12T13:37:26  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 50701ba Matt Corallo: Move txindex/undo data disk location stuff out of ConnectBlock
3942017-12-12T13:37:26  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e104f0f Matt Corallo: Move block writing out of AcceptBlock
3952017-12-12T13:37:34  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10279: Add a CChainState class to validation.cpp to take another step towards clarifying internal interfaces (master...2016-12-cconsensus) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10279
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4012017-12-12T13:56:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/214046f69b19...5d132e8b9746
4022017-12-12T13:56:52  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a720b92 practicalswift: Remove includes in .cpp files for things the corresponding .h file already included
4032017-12-12T13:56:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5d132e8 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10574: Remove includes in .cpp files for things the corresponding .h file already included...
4042017-12-12T13:57:05  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10574: Remove includes in .cpp files for things the corresponding .h file already included (master...redundant) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10574
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4112017-12-12T14:19:23  <pierre_rochard> Does each wallet in vpwallets have a unique identifier? The class has GetName “for logging/debugging purposes” and there is the wallet’s vector index, not sure that I can rely on either of these
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4132017-12-12T14:21:30  <promag> don't use the index
4142017-12-12T14:21:42  <promag> btw, what is the purpose?
4152017-12-12T14:24:05  <pierre_rochard> accounting in multi-wallet world - which addresses belong to which wallet
4162017-12-12T14:25:16  <promag> a wallet index can change
4172017-12-12T14:25:33  <promag> and a wallet name too, if you do rename the wallet
4182017-12-12T14:26:15  <promag> there is no embedded unique id in the wallet yet and don't know if there will be one
4192017-12-12T14:26:24  <pierre_rochard> ah so is the wallet name the file name? like wallet.dat?
4202017-12-12T14:26:47  <promag> yes
4212017-12-12T14:26:58  <pierre_rochard> If there won’t be an embedded unique ID then wallet name will have to suffice
4222017-12-12T14:27:03  <pierre_rochard> Thank you!
4232017-12-12T14:27:22  <promag> don't recall if it is the filename or filepath though
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4332017-12-12T15:01:53  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #11877: Improve createrawtransaction functional tests (master...2017-12-createrawtransaction) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11877
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4362017-12-12T15:09:23  <promag> wumpus: when you said "Something that I guess needs to be tested explicitly now" I thought you meant there should be a functional test :P
4372017-12-12T15:10:02  <wumpus> promag: adding tests is alwasys good
4382017-12-12T15:13:06  <wumpus> promag: but indeed I meant adding the check, which I didn't expect to be there yet
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4402017-12-12T15:14:23  <promag> wumpus: btw, is it really necessary to be unique? in terms of specification, is it possible to have duplicate output address?
4412017-12-12T15:14:54  <promag> IIRC there is no restriction there
4422017-12-12T15:15:09  <wumpus> I don't think transaction validation prohibits it
4432017-12-12T15:15:25  <wumpus> but our software enforces it everywhere so it's good to be consistent
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4452017-12-12T15:15:44  <promag> are we disallowing just because of the key/value parameter?
4462017-12-12T15:15:59  <wumpus> no, because it's always been that way, also in the GUI
4472017-12-12T15:16:00  <promag> I should test in the UI..
4482017-12-12T15:16:08  <promag> ah ok ty
4492017-12-12T15:16:15  <wumpus> there's no reason to do it so it's generally indicative of a bug
4502017-12-12T15:17:01  <promag> wumpus: why? I could split coins to the same private, no?
4512017-12-12T15:17:10  <wumpus> just makes the transaction bigger than it should be, to pay more fees
4522017-12-12T15:17:26  <wumpus> if you want to split, definitely use different keys
4532017-12-12T15:17:53  <promag> right, best practise there
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4642017-12-12T15:39:10  <BlueMatt> promag: was asking about a quick rebase-then-merge on #11041, which I think would be a good idea
4652017-12-12T15:39:12  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11041 | Add LookupBlockIndex by promag · Pull Request #11041 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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4672017-12-12T15:39:28  <BlueMatt> mostly cause it would help me re-implement/rebase #10692 in a cleaner way
4682017-12-12T15:39:29  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10692 | Make mapBlockIndex and chainActive and all CBlockIndex*es const outside of validation/CChainState by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #10692 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4692017-12-12T15:39:57  <BlueMatt> I think it has enough concept ack to merit that....promag, care to rebase?
4702017-12-12T15:40:28  <BlueMatt> I'll commit to reviewing it quick, and yelling at people to get it merged in a day or three
4712017-12-12T15:42:03  * wumpus wonders how near #11403 is
4722017-12-12T15:42:09  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11403 | SegWit wallet support by sipa · Pull Request #11403 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4732017-12-12T15:42:38  * BlueMatt needs to re-review today :(
4742017-12-12T15:42:48  * wumpus needs to review and test it too
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4762017-12-12T15:45:24  <instagibbs> re-re-review time eh
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4832017-12-12T15:58:03  <R> Hey, is anyone active here?
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4852017-12-12T15:59:12  <Guest89357> ?
4862017-12-12T16:02:47  <Randolf> Guest89357:  There are many active folks here, but the discussions are usually focused on the development of the various facets of the Bitcoin project.
4872017-12-12T16:02:58  <Guest89357> Ok
4882017-12-12T16:03:02  <Guest89357> well
4892017-12-12T16:03:18  <Guest89357> I have a problem related to an old bitcoin core client
4902017-12-12T16:03:32  <Guest89357> I don't suppose you guys could help me out with it?
4912017-12-12T16:03:46  <Randolf> Guest89357:  For support, the #bitcoin channel is probably your best bet.
4922017-12-12T16:04:00  <wumpus> better to ask in #bitcoin, this is not a support but a development channel, read the topic please
4932017-12-12T16:04:04  <Guest89357> Ok
4942017-12-12T16:04:12  <Guest89357> sorry for bothering, will check that channel out!
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5032017-12-12T16:20:20  <promag> BlueMatt: ok then
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5052017-12-12T16:21:26  <promag> BlueMatt: later tonight (utc+0 here) I can do it
5062017-12-12T16:21:43  <BlueMatt> k, thanks
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5092017-12-12T16:29:56  <ryanofsky> pierre_rochard, wallet files do have embedded identifiers, search for "get_fileid" in the code
5102017-12-12T16:30:08  <ryanofsky> but for your case, i think you probably better off using wallet filename, so users can understand & choose the id
5112017-12-12T16:30:20  <ryanofsky> also #11687 adds CWallet::m_name and should clarify things: see comment https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11687/commits/3dba60c313ae111492dafc3eb09f2c5044fb1b4d#diff-12635a58447c65585f51d32b7e04075bR724
5122017-12-12T16:30:24  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11687 | External wallet files by ryanofsky · Pull Request #11687 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
5132017-12-12T16:31:34  <promag> ryanofsky: is get_fileid immutable?
5142017-12-12T16:32:24  <ryanofsky> not sure i understand but it's generated randomly, and we never change it but you can call an api to change it
5152017-12-12T16:35:42  <pierre_rochard> Thanks for the headsup ryanofsky - I’ll go with the wallet filename and will read through the PR
5162017-12-12T16:35:52  <promag> BlueMatt: I've updated the comment https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11866#pullrequestreview-82808956 which I think you misinterpreted
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5192017-12-12T16:40:41  <bitcoinman55> how do i encrypt a wallet on linux? ubuntu 16.04
5202017-12-12T16:40:56  <bitcoinman55> is it possible with the gui or i'll have to do it with commands
5212017-12-12T16:42:04  <BlueMatt> promag: no, I dont think I did
5222017-12-12T16:42:16  <BlueMatt> promag: I think we shouldnt be doing the duplicative check at all
5232017-12-12T16:42:31  <BlueMatt> bitcoinman55: #bitcoin will probably help you more, but, yes, there should be a button somewhere
5242017-12-12T16:43:01  <promag> but for instance, in the case there is a conflict, you say it will fire TransactionRemovedFromMempool right?
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5342017-12-12T17:38:52  <sipa> instagibbs: if addresstype is bech32, addmultisigaddress should give you a bech32 address
5352017-12-12T17:39:26  <sipa> and passing bech32 addresses for individual keys to addmultisigaddress should work fine
5362017-12-12T17:39:51  <instagibbs> oh hmmm, so it only complains if you default with a different kind?
5372017-12-12T17:40:29  <sipa> you can't pass a P2WSH address to addmultisigaddress
5382017-12-12T17:40:40  <sipa> because that is not an address that refers to a key
5392017-12-12T17:40:53  <instagibbs> oh did I get my wires crossed and try a p2wsh
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5412017-12-12T17:42:52  <instagibbs> ah yeah, thought i was testing a p2pkh
5422017-12-12T17:44:05  <instagibbs> still returning me a nested p2sh
5432017-12-12T17:44:08  <instagibbs> fwiw
5442017-12-12T17:44:25  <instagibbs> oh nevermind, typo in startup
5452017-12-12T17:48:28  <instagibbs> all comments retracted :) good work
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5472017-12-12T18:01:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #11879: [tests] remove redundant univalue_tests.cpp (master...remove_univalue_test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11879
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5492017-12-12T18:04:12  <sipa> Provoostenator: aha, snoei
5502017-12-12T18:05:09  <Provoostenator> I just got a new machine, so it's a good opportunity to see if any dependencies are missing in the docs...
5512017-12-12T18:05:26  <Provoostenator> Having some issues with make deploy not showing the icons.
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5532017-12-12T18:11:31  <Provoostenator> Fixed by reboot, nvm.
5542017-12-12T18:35:29  <BlueMatt> hmm, re: #11873 I'm curious if anyone would maintain it or if it'd just die compared to travis where we at least theoretically work to fix failures
5552017-12-12T18:35:30  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11873 | Visual studio Build setup for CI · Issue #11873 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
5562017-12-12T18:35:52  <BlueMatt> but it looks like its just a simple travis clone thinggy that runs windows vms instead of linux and is free for oss
5572017-12-12T18:37:10  <wumpus> BlueMatt: eh didn't the person more or less commit to maintaining MSVC support for forseeable future?
5582017-12-12T18:37:38  <wumpus> it was one of the first things I asked
5592017-12-12T18:38:19  <wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11526#issuecomment-338163039
5602017-12-12T18:39:34  <BlueMatt> oh heh
5612017-12-12T18:39:50  <BlueMatt> so we are gonna add this other travis-y thing to bitcoin/bitcoin?
5622017-12-12T18:40:35  <BlueMatt> #11854 could prolly get merged
5632017-12-12T18:40:38  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11854 | Split up key and script metadata for better type safety by ryanofsky · Pull Request #11854 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
5642017-12-12T18:40:51  * BlueMatt likes it pre-segwit-wallet, sorry sipa :p
5652017-12-12T18:41:05  <sipa>  ?
5662017-12-12T18:42:24  <BlueMatt> as in I'd like to see segwit wallet built on 11854, given it was partially the result of my review comments :p
5672017-12-12T18:42:40  <sipa> oh, no opinion there
5682017-12-12T18:42:49  <sipa> i'll gladly rebase if it's merged first
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5712017-12-12T18:44:34  <wumpus> BlueMatt: yes I think it's basically good to go, there was some discussion about where to put the MSVC build system that I didn't read in detail yet
5722017-12-12T18:45:26  <BlueMatt> ah cool
5732017-12-12T18:46:53  <BlueMatt> also #11870 could probably be merged
5742017-12-12T18:46:54  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11870 | wallet: Remove unnecessary mempool lock in ReacceptWalletTransactions by promag · Pull Request #11870 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
5752017-12-12T18:47:39  <wumpus> ok
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5792017-12-12T18:58:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5d132e8b9746...22149540f9e7
5802017-12-12T18:58:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9c8eca7 Russell Yanofsky: Split up key and script metadata for better type safety...
5812017-12-12T18:58:18  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2214954 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11854: Split up key and script metadata for better type safety...
5822017-12-12T18:58:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11854: Split up key and script metadata for better type safety (master...pr/scriptmet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11854
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5852017-12-12T19:04:47  <BlueMatt> sipa: segwit wallet needs rebase :p
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5872017-12-12T19:05:25  <sipa> BlueMatt: already on it
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5892017-12-12T19:09:47  <BlueMatt> jonasschnelli: do you mind rebasing #11281 before review? Its kind confusing when some code added in intermediary commits is likely to be removed during rebase
5902017-12-12T19:09:50  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11281 | Avoid permanent cs_main/cs_wallet lock during RescanFromTime by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #11281 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
5912017-12-12T19:10:01  <jonasschnelli> Oh. It needs rebase.. yes. Let me do that
5922017-12-12T19:10:40  <jonasschnelli> BlueMatt: You mean cleanup the commit history?
5932017-12-12T19:10:55  <jonasschnelli> The last two commits need squashing... can do now
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5962017-12-12T19:17:39  <BlueMatt> yes, squash
5972017-12-12T19:17:41  <BlueMatt> thanks
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5992017-12-12T19:19:25  <sipa> BlueMatt: done
6002017-12-12T19:26:26  <jonasschnelli> BlueMatt: here you go: #11281
6012017-12-12T19:26:29  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11281 | Avoid permanent cs_main/cs_wallet lock during RescanFromTime by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #11281 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
6022017-12-12T19:26:45  <BlueMatt> thanks
6032017-12-12T19:27:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/22149540f9e7...ef8ba7d73a48
6042017-12-12T19:27:18  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5b25293 João Barbosa: wallet: Remove unnecessary mempool lock in ReacceptWalletTransactions
6052017-12-12T19:27:19  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ef8ba7d Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11870: wallet: Remove unnecessary mempool lock in ReacceptWalletTransactions...
6062017-12-12T19:27:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11870: wallet: Remove unnecessary mempool lock in ReacceptWalletTransactions (master...2017-12-reaccept-wallet-transactions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11870
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6102017-12-12T19:35:07  <jonasschnelli> BlueMatt: thanks for reviewing #10387, what do you think about https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10387#issuecomment-343357330
6112017-12-12T19:35:10  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10387 | Eventually connect to NODE_NETWORK_LIMITED peers by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #10387 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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6152017-12-12T19:43:08  <BlueMatt> jonasschnelli: yes my comment was in response to gmaxwell's comment
6162017-12-12T19:44:17  <jonasschnelli> BlueMatt: overlooked that comment. Thanks
6172017-12-12T19:46:04  <cfields> BlueMatt: woohoo @ #10279!
6182017-12-12T19:46:07  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10279 | Add a CChainState class to validation.cpp to take another step towards clarifying internal interfaces by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #10279 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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6202017-12-12T19:47:27  <BlueMatt> cfields: heh, lol, yea
6212017-12-12T19:47:48  <BlueMatt> next is #10692, but want to rebase on #11041 first
6222017-12-12T19:47:49  <cfields> BlueMatt: that was much easier to review than I anticipated. Sorry for just getting to it.
6232017-12-12T19:47:50  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10692 | Make mapBlockIndex and chainActive and all CBlockIndex*es const outside of validation/CChainState by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #10692 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
6242017-12-12T19:47:52  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11041 | Add LookupBlockIndex by promag · Pull Request #11041 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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6262017-12-12T19:48:23  <cfields> BlueMatt: could i convince you to do a quick PR to rename the class members? They're really confusing atm.
6272017-12-12T19:49:35  <BlueMatt> cfields: I mean you can do it, 10692 needs a *ton* of rebase, so I dont have anything important built on top of it
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6292017-12-12T19:50:16  <cfields> ok
6302017-12-12T19:53:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #11881: [WIP] [concept] Remove Python2 support (master...remove_python2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11881
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6672017-12-12T20:43:25  <jnewbery> Provoostenator: Your p2p-fullblocktest.py failures are due to timeouts. The assert message isn't very helpful but if you look down the stack you'll see that it's a timeout
6682017-12-12T20:43:48  <jnewbery> most likely because the re-org test at the end of p2p-fullblocktest.py isn't completing within the required 60 seconds
6692017-12-12T20:44:13  <jnewbery> Take a look at https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11632 and see if the suggested change helps you
6702017-12-12T20:44:38  <jnewbery> instagibbs: achow101: did that change fix it for you?
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6732017-12-12T20:45:26  <jnewbery> I've also completely refactored that test in #11773. Any review of those PRs, starting with #11771 would be greatly appreciated
6742017-12-12T20:45:28  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11773 | [tests] Change p2p-fullblocktest to use BitcoinTestFramework by jnewbery · Pull Request #11773 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
6752017-12-12T20:45:29  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11771 | [tests] Change invalidtxrequest to use BitcoinTestFramework by jnewbery · Pull Request #11771 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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6772017-12-12T20:46:49  <instagibbs> the refactor of the test fixed it yes
6782017-12-12T20:49:39  <achow101> jnewbery: 11773 fixed it for me
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6882017-12-12T21:00:27  <jnewbery> great. Thanks!
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7232017-12-12T22:41:01  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #11882: Improve fallback fee situations (master...2017/12/feeest_readyness) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11882
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7412017-12-12T23:11:32  <meshcollider> jnewbery: is there anything wrong with modifying bitcoin.conf in run_test() or should that only be done in setup_chain() ?
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7432017-12-12T23:20:55  <jnewbery> meshcollider: by default, the test_framework will start your nodes in self.setup_nodes(), which is called *before* run_test() begins. That means if you don't restart your bitcoin nodes, then they won't see any changes in bitcoin.conf that you make in run_test()
7442017-12-12T23:21:44  <jnewbery> If you're stop-starting nodes and expect them to pick up changes in bitcoin.conf, then I see no problem with changing it in run_test().
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7462017-12-12T23:22:22  <jnewbery> You can get the datadir with the datadir variable in TestNode
7472017-12-12T23:22:45  <jonasschnelli> Travis lacks a couple of PRs behind... I wonder if we once have that situation continues, all it requires is a new PR / PR push every 2hs.
7482017-12-12T23:25:39  <meshcollider> jnewbery: ok sweet, thanks
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7592017-12-12T23:59:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MeshCollider opened pull request #11883: Add configuration file/argument testing (master...201712_datadir_tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11883