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 47 2017-12-16T02:23:13  <meshcollider> in wallet/db.cpp in VerifyEnvironment(), if opening the environment fails the first time then the database env is moved to a backup and opening is retried... can someone explain what situation moving it would help in?
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 49 2017-12-16T02:23:57  <meshcollider> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/wallet/db.cpp#L272-L290
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 54 2017-12-16T02:38:22  <meshcollider> sipa: looks like you introduced it in #2558, could you give me a bit of info :)
 55 2017-12-16T02:38:23  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/2558 | Some database/-related recovery improvements by sipa · Pull Request #2558 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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 83 2017-12-16T04:25:11  <freeark1> Hi friends, I am new to blockchain, I am learning its internal.
 84 2017-12-16T04:25:59  * Randolf congratulates freeark1
 85 2017-12-16T04:26:44  <wumpus> we've all been there
 86 2017-12-16T04:27:18  <freeark1> Wecome Randolf
 87 2017-12-16T04:27:36  <freeark1> welcome
 88 2017-12-16T04:28:16  <Randolf> freeark1:  Thanks.  Which area(s) of Bitcoin interests you the most?
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 90 2017-12-16T04:28:25  <Randolf> ...from a core-development standpoint.
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 92 2017-12-16T04:30:14  <freeark1> I propose to create a system in which hard core developers get their earning directly rather outsourcing entities eat up major chunk.
 93 2017-12-16T04:33:28  * luke-jr doesn't comphrehend this proposal
 94 2017-12-16T04:33:39  <freeark1> If some people co-operate me I will bring blockchain theme everywhere. Hard-working people are exploited by smart people. And hard-working people are understood to be stupid.
 95 2017-12-16T04:34:55  <luke-jr> that's a societal problem, not a Bitcoin problem
 96 2017-12-16T04:35:08  <wumpus> this is very off topic here, this is a channel for development of the code of the bitcoin core software; I'd suggest to take it to #bitcoin.
 97 2017-12-16T04:35:47  <freeark1> ok
 98 2017-12-16T04:36:43  <freeark1> just one sentence.
 99 2017-12-16T04:36:59  <luke-jr> one sentence in #bitcoin, please ;)
100 2017-12-16T04:37:42  <wumpus> feel free to listen in here to learn about the development, but this is not the place for wild project ideas but very specific ones
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104 2017-12-16T05:14:16  <ryanofsky> meshcollider, it's only renaming the database log directory, not the actual database file. this might help if something is wrong with the transaction logs
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128 2017-12-16T06:48:53  <jonasschnelli> Oh,... there is a significant mem leak in rescan-chainstate!
129 2017-12-16T06:49:22  <jonasschnelli> *reindex
130 2017-12-16T06:49:38  <jonasschnelli> -bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
131 2017-12-16T06:49:47  <jonasschnelli> (can't even kill bitcoind)
132 2017-12-16T06:50:55  <sipa> jonasschnelli: #11824?
133 2017-12-16T06:50:56  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11824 | Block ActivateBestChain to empty validationinterface queue by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #11824 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
134 2017-12-16T06:51:00  <jonasschnelli> happend on my with headless debian only running bitcoind (only installed bitcoind after debian 9 minimal), machine has 32 GB DDR4 RAM / AMD Ryzen 7 1700X
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136 2017-12-16T06:51:23  <jonasschnelli> sipa: Yes, let me test that...
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152 2017-12-16T07:50:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] valentinewallace opened pull request #11915: Qt: Reflect correct dbcache value in options panel. (master...dbcache_gui_fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11915
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165 2017-12-16T08:36:03  <eck> jonasschnelli: do you still maintain testnet-seed.bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch
166 2017-12-16T08:37:41  <eck> it's in chainparams.cpp but i haven't been getting any dns responses from that seed (the testnet seeds work), which is why i as,
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169 2017-12-16T08:43:33  <wumpus> indeed, it gives no results at the moment
170 2017-12-16T08:43:38  <towertorony> hello. why is the maj function used by bitcoin in src code with a simple | (or) not with an xor?
171 2017-12-16T08:43:55  <sipa> what do you mean with "the testnet seeds work"; the seeder by jonasschnelli you're referring to is a testnet seed
172 2017-12-16T08:43:59  <sipa> eck: ^
173 2017-12-16T08:44:06  <towertorony> that is in sha256...
174 2017-12-16T08:44:08  <sipa> towertorony: they're identical
175 2017-12-16T08:44:31  <eck> sorry, typo, the seeds from petertodd.org and bluematt.me respond, but not the seed from jonasschnelli.me
176 2017-12-16T08:45:32  <towertorony> how? xor is 1 if both inputs have same bits. or is 1 if at least one input is 1?
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178 2017-12-16T08:46:23  <sipa> Maj(x,y,z) is either "(x & y) ^ (y & z) ^ (z & x)" or "z ^ (x & (y ^ z))"
179 2017-12-16T08:46:30  <sipa> eh
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181 2017-12-16T08:46:37  <sipa> Maj(x,y,z) is either "(x & y) ^ (y & z) ^ (z & x)" or "(x & y) | (z & (x | y))"
182 2017-12-16T08:46:44  <towertorony> xor 1 if inputs different bits...sorry, 0 otherwise. or is zero only if both are 0?
183 2017-12-16T08:46:56  <wumpus> seed.bitcoin.sipa.be gives me no results either at the moment, btw
184 2017-12-16T08:46:57  <sipa> find me an input for which the two give a different results
185 2017-12-16T08:47:23  <towertorony> ok i will look into your explanation, sepa. thanks
186 2017-12-16T08:47:24  <sipa> towertorony: it's not just swapping out a xor for an or; it's a totally different expression that just happens to be equivalent
187 2017-12-16T08:47:49  <sipa> and the one used is only 4 bitwise operations, instead of 5
188 2017-12-16T08:47:54  <sipa> so it's faster
189 2017-12-16T08:48:20  <towertorony> i realized that the orig eqn uses a compliment of x...
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191 2017-12-16T08:48:50  <sipa> wumpus: heh, indeed i'm not seeing any dns requests come in
192 2017-12-16T08:49:56  <sipa> fixed
193 2017-12-16T08:49:59  <wumpus> would be if there was a notification system that monitors the dns seeds, and sends out a mail or IRC message or such if they're unreachable for a while
194 2017-12-16T08:50:11  <sipa> my port forwarding firewall rule got erased somehow
195 2017-12-16T08:50:31  <wumpus> yep yours works again
196 2017-12-16T08:51:42  <eck> since jonas' seed is down, there are only two seeds for testnet
197 2017-12-16T08:52:01  <eck> not a huge deal if it's temporary, but something to be aware fo
198 2017-12-16T08:52:08  <sipa> towertorony: it helps to realize what the Maj function is doing: if a bit is set in 2 or 3 out of the inputs, the result is 1; if it's only set in 0 or 1 of the inputs, the result is 0
199 2017-12-16T08:52:33  <wumpus> eck: I'm sure it's just a matter of restarting it
200 2017-12-16T08:52:47  <eck> that's what i suspect/hope as well
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212 2017-12-16T09:47:47  <freeark1> An easy to learn resource for blockchain
213 2017-12-16T09:49:50  <freeark1> bitcoin-dev development process, am I need to fork bitcoin github repo?
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215 2017-12-16T09:54:40  <brats> hi     where could download bitcoin core logo and other material?
216 2017-12-16T09:54:59  <brats> from which site?
217 2017-12-16T10:05:57  <freeark1> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/src/qt/res/icons
218 2017-12-16T10:06:33  <freeark1> @brats, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/src/qt/res/icons
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222 2017-12-16T10:24:03  <breds> could someone tell me where to download bitcoin node logo and other material ??
223 2017-12-16T10:25:33  <meshcollider> breds: he freeark1 literally just posted above... https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/src/qt/res/icons
224 2017-12-16T10:25:49  <meshcollider> breds: please use #bitcoin for questions like that, not this channel
225 2017-12-16T10:26:16  <breds> thnx  ok
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237 2017-12-16T12:30:41  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] flack opened pull request #11916: Typo fix (master...patch-3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11916
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249 2017-12-16T13:27:19  <Provoostenator> What's involved with setting up a testnet DNS seed and what's the worst that can happen if I do that? Happy to try.
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252 2017-12-16T13:34:30  <Provoostenator> Found this: https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder
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267 2017-12-16T14:31:48  <Provoostenator> Here we go: seed.testnet.bitcoin.sprovoost.nl   - runs on EC2, I don't know if that's good enough for testnet (if you're seeing A 66.111... you need to wait a bit)
268 2017-12-16T14:37:00  <Provoostenator> Privacy wise, I wonder how much Amazon can see, vs. e.g. running it on a physical machine in a data center in some country with proper privacy laws, not owned by a US company, etc.
269 2017-12-16T14:38:12  <wumpus> Provoostenator: nice!
270 2017-12-16T14:41:11  <wumpus> ah yes still gives 66.111 here
271 2017-12-16T14:41:59  <Provoostenator> And it's mainnet :-) let me fix that...
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279 2017-12-16T14:53:50  <Sentineo> wumpus: domI understand it well that to run a seed node you need no registering of it? E.g. I saw built in dnse seeds in sources, but this sounds different. A dynamic seed dns network perhaps?
280 2017-12-16T14:54:22  <Sentineo> by registering I mean to write to a developer to list it somewhere
281 2017-12-16T14:54:44  <wumpus> Sentineo: I don't see what advantage another level of indirection would have
282 2017-12-16T14:56:18  <Sentineo> not suggesting anything ... asking ;) I do run some full nodes ooen to the public. To be a seed node is it enough to just run the tool in sipa's repo linked above?
283 2017-12-16T14:56:21  <wumpus> Sentineo: privacy is also of important so people adding a DNS seed have to agree to some terms (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/dnsseed-policy.md), which is a manual step before merging them
284 2017-12-16T14:57:01  <wumpus> and a commitment to running it for fairly long term
285 2017-12-16T14:58:20  <wumpus> these are entry points to the network so they have to be hardcoded. It's not great, but it's the fastest bootstrapping mechanism. THere is also an automatic one, that is used when falling back (e.g. DNS seeds unreachable). This is a hardcoded list of reliable nodes that is updated every version.
286 2017-12-16T14:59:25  <wumpus> these are generally unreliable, as they're just nodes and no one committed to kepeing them up, so it takes longer to get connected to the network in that way, and once it found working nodes it asks them for more addresses and goes from there
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288 2017-12-16T15:00:21  <wumpus> and it skips the DNS seeds if at startup it already has reliable peers in peers.dat
289 2017-12-16T15:00:53  <Sentineo> yep, I saw that.
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293 2017-12-16T15:09:34  <Sentineo> wumpus: so what is the process to become one? First run the bitcoin-seeder tool?
294 2017-12-16T15:10:43  <wumpus> yes, basically wahat Provoostenator did, just create one, then make a PR
295 2017-12-16T15:12:15  <Sentineo> cool, ty
296 2017-12-16T15:13:32  <Provoostenator> I'll make a PR as well. What's the "servicebits filtering" about?
297 2017-12-16T15:15:25  <wumpus> nodes can request to know only about nodes that provide certain service bits
298 2017-12-16T15:15:47  <Sentineo> like network, bloom, witness etc
299 2017-12-16T15:15:50  <wumpus> this is useful for getting segwit peers, basically
300 2017-12-16T15:15:51  <wumpus> yes
301 2017-12-16T15:16:58  <Provoostenator> What would be the rationale for setting that false, e.g. BlueMatt: vSeeds.emplace_back("testnet-seed.bluematt.me", false);
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303 2017-12-16T15:18:59  <wumpus> if your dns seed runs software that doesn't support it
304 2017-12-16T15:19:11  <wumpus> not acceptable for new ones I'd say
305 2017-12-16T15:19:39  <wumpus> that's just the way that old dnsseeds were grandfathered in when the filtering was introduced
306 2017-12-16T15:20:23  <Provoostenator> I'm just running bitcoin-seeder with the default settings, not sure if I need to pass anything using the -w flag: https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder/blob/master/main.cpp#L51
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330 2017-12-16T15:54:30  <Sentineo> Provoostenator: could you please ping me the PR # once you have it? So I can use it as a reference?
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354 2017-12-16T16:20:03  <Provoostenator> Sentineo: #11917
355 2017-12-16T16:20:05  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11917 | Add testnet DNS seed: seed.testnet.bitcoin.sprovoost.nl by Sjors · Pull Request #11917 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
356 2017-12-16T16:20:06  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #11917: Add testnet DNS seed:  seed.testnet.bitcoin.sprovoost.nl (master...testnet-dns-seed-sjors) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11917
357 2017-12-16T16:20:26  <Provoostenator> (oh, the PR bot works again...)
358 2017-12-16T16:21:24  <Sentineo> ty!
359 2017-12-16T16:22:46  <Provoostenator> You may want to wait to see the feedback I get before making your own PR.
360 2017-12-16T16:24:47  <Sentineo> yep, that is my plan Provoostenator basically to not waste core people's time.
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363 2017-12-16T16:39:17  <Provoostenator> From: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_Client_Node_Discovery#DNS_Addresses "The client uses public web services which return the information to determine its own external, routable IP address". Isn't that outdated info?
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378 2017-12-16T17:22:40  <BlueMatt> Provoostenator: note that the boolean goes away in #11512 (which fixes 0.16 bugs, so will land for it)
379 2017-12-16T17:22:42  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11512 | Use GetDesireableServiceFlags in seeds, dnsseeds, fixing static seed adding by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #11512 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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386 2017-12-16T17:53:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #11918: fees: Remove fallbackfee default (master...Mf1712-NoFallBackFee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11918
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401 2017-12-16T18:40:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/df7181952436...62fdf9b07087
402 2017-12-16T18:40:35  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 58c909d flack: Typo fix
403 2017-12-16T18:40:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 62fdf9b MarcoFalke: Merge #11916: Typo fix...
404 2017-12-16T18:41:09  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11916: Typo fix (master...patch-3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11916
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