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 472017-12-16T02:23:13  <meshcollider> in wallet/db.cpp in VerifyEnvironment(), if opening the environment fails the first time then the database env is moved to a backup and opening is retried... can someone explain what situation moving it would help in?
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 492017-12-16T02:23:57  <meshcollider> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/wallet/db.cpp#L272-L290
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 542017-12-16T02:38:22  <meshcollider> sipa: looks like you introduced it in #2558, could you give me a bit of info :)
 552017-12-16T02:38:23  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/2558 | Some database/-related recovery improvements by sipa · Pull Request #2558 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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 832017-12-16T04:25:11  <freeark1> Hi friends, I am new to blockchain, I am learning its internal.
 842017-12-16T04:25:59  * Randolf congratulates freeark1
 852017-12-16T04:26:44  <wumpus> we've all been there
 862017-12-16T04:27:18  <freeark1> Wecome Randolf
 872017-12-16T04:27:36  <freeark1> welcome
 882017-12-16T04:28:16  <Randolf> freeark1:  Thanks.  Which area(s) of Bitcoin interests you the most?
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 902017-12-16T04:28:25  <Randolf> ...from a core-development standpoint.
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 922017-12-16T04:30:14  <freeark1> I propose to create a system in which hard core developers get their earning directly rather outsourcing entities eat up major chunk.
 932017-12-16T04:33:28  * luke-jr doesn't comphrehend this proposal
 942017-12-16T04:33:39  <freeark1> If some people co-operate me I will bring blockchain theme everywhere. Hard-working people are exploited by smart people. And hard-working people are understood to be stupid.
 952017-12-16T04:34:55  <luke-jr> that's a societal problem, not a Bitcoin problem
 962017-12-16T04:35:08  <wumpus> this is very off topic here, this is a channel for development of the code of the bitcoin core software; I'd suggest to take it to #bitcoin.
 972017-12-16T04:35:47  <freeark1> ok
 982017-12-16T04:36:43  <freeark1> just one sentence.
 992017-12-16T04:36:59  <luke-jr> one sentence in #bitcoin, please ;)
1002017-12-16T04:37:42  <wumpus> feel free to listen in here to learn about the development, but this is not the place for wild project ideas but very specific ones
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1042017-12-16T05:14:16  <ryanofsky> meshcollider, it's only renaming the database log directory, not the actual database file. this might help if something is wrong with the transaction logs
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1282017-12-16T06:48:53  <jonasschnelli> Oh,... there is a significant mem leak in rescan-chainstate!
1292017-12-16T06:49:22  <jonasschnelli> *reindex
1302017-12-16T06:49:38  <jonasschnelli> -bash: fork: Cannot allocate memory
1312017-12-16T06:49:47  <jonasschnelli> (can't even kill bitcoind)
1322017-12-16T06:50:55  <sipa> jonasschnelli: #11824?
1332017-12-16T06:50:56  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11824 | Block ActivateBestChain to empty validationinterface queue by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #11824 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1342017-12-16T06:51:00  <jonasschnelli> happend on my with headless debian only running bitcoind (only installed bitcoind after debian 9 minimal), machine has 32 GB DDR4 RAM / AMD Ryzen 7 1700X
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1362017-12-16T06:51:23  <jonasschnelli> sipa: Yes, let me test that...
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1522017-12-16T07:50:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] valentinewallace opened pull request #11915: Qt: Reflect correct dbcache value in options panel. (master...dbcache_gui_fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11915
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1652017-12-16T08:36:03  <eck> jonasschnelli: do you still maintain testnet-seed.bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch
1662017-12-16T08:37:41  <eck> it's in chainparams.cpp but i haven't been getting any dns responses from that seed (the testnet seeds work), which is why i as,
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1692017-12-16T08:43:33  <wumpus> indeed, it gives no results at the moment
1702017-12-16T08:43:38  <towertorony> hello. why is the maj function used by bitcoin in src code with a simple | (or) not with an xor?
1712017-12-16T08:43:55  <sipa> what do you mean with "the testnet seeds work"; the seeder by jonasschnelli you're referring to is a testnet seed
1722017-12-16T08:43:59  <sipa> eck: ^
1732017-12-16T08:44:06  <towertorony> that is in sha256...
1742017-12-16T08:44:08  <sipa> towertorony: they're identical
1752017-12-16T08:44:31  <eck> sorry, typo, the seeds from petertodd.org and bluematt.me respond, but not the seed from jonasschnelli.me
1762017-12-16T08:45:32  <towertorony> how? xor is 1 if both inputs have same bits. or is 1 if at least one input is 1?
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1782017-12-16T08:46:23  <sipa> Maj(x,y,z) is either "(x & y) ^ (y & z) ^ (z & x)" or "z ^ (x & (y ^ z))"
1792017-12-16T08:46:30  <sipa> eh
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1812017-12-16T08:46:37  <sipa> Maj(x,y,z) is either "(x & y) ^ (y & z) ^ (z & x)" or "(x & y) | (z & (x | y))"
1822017-12-16T08:46:44  <towertorony> xor 1 if inputs different bits...sorry, 0 otherwise. or is zero only if both are 0?
1832017-12-16T08:46:56  <wumpus> seed.bitcoin.sipa.be gives me no results either at the moment, btw
1842017-12-16T08:46:57  <sipa> find me an input for which the two give a different results
1852017-12-16T08:47:23  <towertorony> ok i will look into your explanation, sepa. thanks
1862017-12-16T08:47:24  <sipa> towertorony: it's not just swapping out a xor for an or; it's a totally different expression that just happens to be equivalent
1872017-12-16T08:47:49  <sipa> and the one used is only 4 bitwise operations, instead of 5
1882017-12-16T08:47:54  <sipa> so it's faster
1892017-12-16T08:48:20  <towertorony> i realized that the orig eqn uses a compliment of x...
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1912017-12-16T08:48:50  <sipa> wumpus: heh, indeed i'm not seeing any dns requests come in
1922017-12-16T08:49:56  <sipa> fixed
1932017-12-16T08:49:59  <wumpus> would be if there was a notification system that monitors the dns seeds, and sends out a mail or IRC message or such if they're unreachable for a while
1942017-12-16T08:50:11  <sipa> my port forwarding firewall rule got erased somehow
1952017-12-16T08:50:31  <wumpus> yep yours works again
1962017-12-16T08:51:42  <eck> since jonas' seed is down, there are only two seeds for testnet
1972017-12-16T08:52:01  <eck> not a huge deal if it's temporary, but something to be aware fo
1982017-12-16T08:52:08  <sipa> towertorony: it helps to realize what the Maj function is doing: if a bit is set in 2 or 3 out of the inputs, the result is 1; if it's only set in 0 or 1 of the inputs, the result is 0
1992017-12-16T08:52:33  <wumpus> eck: I'm sure it's just a matter of restarting it
2002017-12-16T08:52:47  <eck> that's what i suspect/hope as well
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2122017-12-16T09:47:47  <freeark1> An easy to learn resource for blockchain
2132017-12-16T09:49:50  <freeark1> bitcoin-dev development process, am I need to fork bitcoin github repo?
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2152017-12-16T09:54:40  <brats> hi     where could download bitcoin core logo and other material?
2162017-12-16T09:54:59  <brats> from which site?
2172017-12-16T10:05:57  <freeark1> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/src/qt/res/icons
2182017-12-16T10:06:33  <freeark1> @brats, https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/src/qt/res/icons
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2222017-12-16T10:24:03  <breds> could someone tell me where to download bitcoin node logo and other material ??
2232017-12-16T10:25:33  <meshcollider> breds: he freeark1 literally just posted above... https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/src/qt/res/icons
2242017-12-16T10:25:49  <meshcollider> breds: please use #bitcoin for questions like that, not this channel
2252017-12-16T10:26:16  <breds> thnx  ok
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2372017-12-16T12:30:41  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] flack opened pull request #11916: Typo fix (master...patch-3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11916
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2492017-12-16T13:27:19  <Provoostenator> What's involved with setting up a testnet DNS seed and what's the worst that can happen if I do that? Happy to try.
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2522017-12-16T13:34:30  <Provoostenator> Found this: https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder
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2672017-12-16T14:31:48  <Provoostenator> Here we go: seed.testnet.bitcoin.sprovoost.nl   - runs on EC2, I don't know if that's good enough for testnet (if you're seeing A 66.111... you need to wait a bit)
2682017-12-16T14:37:00  <Provoostenator> Privacy wise, I wonder how much Amazon can see, vs. e.g. running it on a physical machine in a data center in some country with proper privacy laws, not owned by a US company, etc.
2692017-12-16T14:38:12  <wumpus> Provoostenator: nice!
2702017-12-16T14:41:11  <wumpus> ah yes still gives 66.111 here
2712017-12-16T14:41:59  <Provoostenator> And it's mainnet :-) let me fix that...
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2792017-12-16T14:53:50  <Sentineo> wumpus: domI understand it well that to run a seed node you need no registering of it? E.g. I saw built in dnse seeds in sources, but this sounds different. A dynamic seed dns network perhaps?
2802017-12-16T14:54:22  <Sentineo> by registering I mean to write to a developer to list it somewhere
2812017-12-16T14:54:44  <wumpus> Sentineo: I don't see what advantage another level of indirection would have
2822017-12-16T14:56:18  <Sentineo> not suggesting anything ... asking ;) I do run some full nodes ooen to the public. To be a seed node is it enough to just run the tool in sipa's repo linked above?
2832017-12-16T14:56:21  <wumpus> Sentineo: privacy is also of important so people adding a DNS seed have to agree to some terms (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/dnsseed-policy.md), which is a manual step before merging them
2842017-12-16T14:57:01  <wumpus> and a commitment to running it for fairly long term
2852017-12-16T14:58:20  <wumpus> these are entry points to the network so they have to be hardcoded. It's not great, but it's the fastest bootstrapping mechanism. THere is also an automatic one, that is used when falling back (e.g. DNS seeds unreachable). This is a hardcoded list of reliable nodes that is updated every version.
2862017-12-16T14:59:25  <wumpus> these are generally unreliable, as they're just nodes and no one committed to kepeing them up, so it takes longer to get connected to the network in that way, and once it found working nodes it asks them for more addresses and goes from there
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2882017-12-16T15:00:21  <wumpus> and it skips the DNS seeds if at startup it already has reliable peers in peers.dat
2892017-12-16T15:00:53  <Sentineo> yep, I saw that.
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2932017-12-16T15:09:34  <Sentineo> wumpus: so what is the process to become one? First run the bitcoin-seeder tool?
2942017-12-16T15:10:43  <wumpus> yes, basically wahat Provoostenator did, just create one, then make a PR
2952017-12-16T15:12:15  <Sentineo> cool, ty
2962017-12-16T15:13:32  <Provoostenator> I'll make a PR as well. What's the "servicebits filtering" about?
2972017-12-16T15:15:25  <wumpus> nodes can request to know only about nodes that provide certain service bits
2982017-12-16T15:15:47  <Sentineo> like network, bloom, witness etc
2992017-12-16T15:15:50  <wumpus> this is useful for getting segwit peers, basically
3002017-12-16T15:15:51  <wumpus> yes
3012017-12-16T15:16:58  <Provoostenator> What would be the rationale for setting that false, e.g. BlueMatt: vSeeds.emplace_back("testnet-seed.bluematt.me", false);
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3032017-12-16T15:18:59  <wumpus> if your dns seed runs software that doesn't support it
3042017-12-16T15:19:11  <wumpus> not acceptable for new ones I'd say
3052017-12-16T15:19:39  <wumpus> that's just the way that old dnsseeds were grandfathered in when the filtering was introduced
3062017-12-16T15:20:23  <Provoostenator> I'm just running bitcoin-seeder with the default settings, not sure if I need to pass anything using the -w flag: https://github.com/sipa/bitcoin-seeder/blob/master/main.cpp#L51
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3302017-12-16T15:54:30  <Sentineo> Provoostenator: could you please ping me the PR # once you have it? So I can use it as a reference?
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3542017-12-16T16:20:03  <Provoostenator> Sentineo: #11917
3552017-12-16T16:20:05  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11917 | Add testnet DNS seed: seed.testnet.bitcoin.sprovoost.nl by Sjors · Pull Request #11917 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3562017-12-16T16:20:06  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #11917: Add testnet DNS seed:  seed.testnet.bitcoin.sprovoost.nl (master...testnet-dns-seed-sjors) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11917
3572017-12-16T16:20:26  <Provoostenator> (oh, the PR bot works again...)
3582017-12-16T16:21:24  <Sentineo> ty!
3592017-12-16T16:22:46  <Provoostenator> You may want to wait to see the feedback I get before making your own PR.
3602017-12-16T16:24:47  <Sentineo> yep, that is my plan Provoostenator basically to not waste core people's time.
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3632017-12-16T16:39:17  <Provoostenator> From: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_Client_Node_Discovery#DNS_Addresses "The client uses public web services which return the information to determine its own external, routable IP address". Isn't that outdated info?
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3782017-12-16T17:22:40  <BlueMatt> Provoostenator: note that the boolean goes away in #11512 (which fixes 0.16 bugs, so will land for it)
3792017-12-16T17:22:42  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11512 | Use GetDesireableServiceFlags in seeds, dnsseeds, fixing static seed adding by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #11512 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3862017-12-16T17:53:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #11918: fees: Remove fallbackfee default (master...Mf1712-NoFallBackFee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11918
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4012017-12-16T18:40:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/df7181952436...62fdf9b07087
4022017-12-16T18:40:35  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 58c909d flack: Typo fix
4032017-12-16T18:40:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 62fdf9b MarcoFalke: Merge #11916: Typo fix...
4042017-12-16T18:41:09  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11916: Typo fix (master...patch-3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11916
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