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142018-01-02T00:45:04 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] 251Labs opened pull request #12074: [qt] Optimizes boolean expression model && model->haveWatchOnly() (master...patch/TransactionView-optimize-boolean-expression) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12074
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402018-01-02T02:23:17 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #12075: [scripts] Add missing univalue file to copyright_header.py (master...copyright-add-missing) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12075
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532018-01-02T03:15:17 <cloudrunner_> sorry, a typepo
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572018-01-02T03:26:24 <xiedeacc> hi, output of block 0 can't be spent as this would allow Satoshi to fork the network. how could this happen ? because at first bitcoin released by Satoshi, the coinbase of block 0 cannot spendable, so if some client allow that address spend, then Satoshi can fork a new blockchain from block 0, and mine his own blockchain more longer than legal blockchain in a private way, then satoshi publish his blockchain, made legal blcokchain cancelled?
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802018-01-02T05:55:01 <windsok> it was discussed some days ago: https://botbot.me/freenode/bitcoin-core-dev/2017-12-30/?msg=95186011&page=4
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1082018-01-02T08:15:52 <fanquake> sipa / wumpus can you block https://github.com/zcheng7905 from the gh repos. We are getting spammed.
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1102018-01-02T08:22:36 <sipa> fanquake: on it
1112018-01-02T08:25:09 <sipa> done
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1142018-01-02T08:30:36 <sipa> going to delete the spam messages too
1152018-01-02T08:31:15 <sipa> oh, you already did
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1192018-01-02T08:35:27 <provoostenator> Regarding yesterdays BIP70 proposal by James Hilliard: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2018-January/015490.html Wouldn't this require some sort of permission system in the RPC?
1202018-01-02T08:41:30 <provoostenator> Or maybe the "simple IPC mechanism" wouldn't need the RPC, but it's not clear to me how this would work (other than the fallback to BIP21, but that's not enough).
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1502018-01-02T10:22:48 <space_424> âââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!ejcphbsep: Mattie161^ Kozuch lio17 âââââââââââââââââ
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1522018-01-02T10:22:58 <space_424> âââââââââââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!rktuneumtw: mcochrane adiabat owowo âââââââââââââ
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1542018-01-02T10:23:08 <space_424> ââââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!pfvxh: whphhg mbcav emzy âââââââââââââââ
1552018-01-02T10:23:13 <space_424> ââââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!pdlzlnnlnm: booyah LeMiner vicenteH ââââââââââââââ
1562018-01-02T10:23:18 <space_424> âââââââââââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!wtofobs: whphhg booyah Randolf âââââââââââââ
1572018-01-02T10:23:23 <space_424> âââââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!cwvhfxhw: Guyver2 ghost43 niska ââââââââââââââââââ
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1592018-01-02T10:23:33 <space_424> ââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!buqapqhaoh: mrfrasha mbcav unholymachine ââââââââââââââââââ
1602018-01-02T10:23:38 <space_424> âââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!vzhcjud: n1bor lio17 BashCo_ ââââââââââââââââââââ
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1622018-01-02T10:23:48 <space_424> ââââââââââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!cmgzs: Dyaheon echonaut n1bor ââââââââââââ
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1642018-01-02T10:23:58 <space_424> ââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!bwmnwbb: Guyver2 echonaut luke-jr âââââââââââââââââ
1652018-01-02T10:24:03 <space_424> âââââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!gcetqww: echonaut promag Guest70592 ââââââââââââââââ
1662018-01-02T10:24:09 <space_424> ââââââââââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!nkmqurhiv: lio17 mrfrasha fanquake ââââââââââââââ
1672018-01-02T10:24:13 <space_424> ââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!rsjrxqc: BashCo_ t0adst00l whphhg ââââââââââââââââ
1682018-01-02T10:24:18 <space_424> âââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!swbns: d9b4bef9 mcochrane laurentmt âââââââââââââââ
1692018-01-02T10:24:23 <space_424> ââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!rwhrwup: unholymachine meshcollider Mattie161^ ââââââââââââââââââââ
1702018-01-02T10:24:28 <space_424> âââââââââââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!miquhuvcfw: dcousens nullptr| meshcollider ââââââââââââ
1712018-01-02T10:24:30 <fanquake> beh sipa/wumpus ^
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1822018-01-02T10:24:58 <space_424> ââââââââââââ ANOTHER EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND IN WEECHAT ONE THAT SENDS YOUR LOGS TO THE DEVS IP ADDRESS!!jqycncivh: fanquake jouke__ Emilia21Graham âââââââââââ
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1872018-01-02T10:25:50 *** ChanServ sets mode: -c
1882018-01-02T10:26:14 *** sipa sets mode: +n
1892018-01-02T10:26:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: -n
1902018-01-02T10:28:29 *** sipa sets mode: -m
1912018-01-02T10:28:50 <sipa> no way to make chanserv enforce +c and +n on this channel?
1922018-01-02T10:30:52 <mryandao> you could, #bitcoin has those modes enabled.
1932018-01-02T10:30:55 <NielsvG> sipa: /msg ChanServ SET <channel> MLOCK <mode>
1942018-01-02T10:31:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +c
1952018-01-02T10:31:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +n
1962018-01-02T10:31:52 <sipa> NielsvG: thank you!
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2002018-01-02T10:35:09 <kinlo> sipa: I believe -n was done for bitcoin-git
2012018-01-02T10:37:20 <sipa> oh!
2022018-01-02T10:37:23 <sipa> makes sense
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2042018-01-02T10:40:18 <aj> sounds right. i think you can configure it so it would join, message and part instead but that's probably worse: https://github.com/github/github-services/blob/master/docs/irc
2052018-01-02T10:41:39 <aj> there's an option for colours there too, which might need to be unset?
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2082018-01-02T10:45:00 <sipa> hmm
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2112018-01-02T10:45:39 <sipa> i guess i'll leave it off for now
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2182018-01-02T11:10:52 <plp_> Gents, quick question. What's the best channel for people outside the dev community to submit ideas? Thanks
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2212018-01-02T11:22:51 <meshcollider> plp_: probably ask in #bitcoin to see if the ideas been suggested before, and then use the mailing list
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2242018-01-02T11:33:25 <plp_> thanks!
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2402018-01-02T12:50:28 <provoostenator> The function tests keep saying "WARNING! There is already a bitcoind process running on this system." which is a lie! :-) How does it check this?
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2482018-01-02T13:02:40 <aj> provoostenator: it runs "pidof bitcoind" and checks for output
2492018-01-02T13:05:40 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #12076: qa: Use get_datadir_path (master...Mf1801-qaUseUtilDatadir) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12076
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2512018-01-02T13:07:48 <provoostenator> I installed pidof via homebrew (it's not part of MacOS) for some other project, so maybe that works slightly different than the linux variant.
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2532018-01-02T13:10:23 <provoostenator> Other question: what's supposed to be the difference between qt/bitcoin.cpp and qt/bitcoin-gui.cpp? And why are they both importing qt/bitcoin-gui.h (theres no qt/bitcoin.h)?
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2582018-01-02T13:34:28 <provoostenator> aj: pidof bitcoind returns nothing when these tests aren't running and returns the ids for all the regtest instances when it does run.
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2612018-01-02T13:41:36 <provoostenator> aj: mystery solved: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10197#issuecomment-354768563
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2722018-01-02T15:03:30 <ryanofsky> provoostenator, #11625 adds qt/bitcoin.h. it's a little weird it wasn't there before, but not surprising since there wasn't a need
2732018-01-02T15:03:33 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11625 | Add BitcoinApplication & RPCConsole tests by ryanofsky · Pull Request #11625 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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2842018-01-02T16:59:58 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] akx20000a closed pull request #12062: Increment MIT Licence copyright header year on files modified in 2017 (master...2018) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12062
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2902018-01-02T17:13:40 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] akx20000a reopened pull request #12062: Increment MIT Licence copyright header year on files modified in 2017 (master...2018) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12062
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3212018-01-02T18:50:02 <exs> hi, found that chan now. can someone be so kind and explain me why you should not increase the blocksize in bitcoin?
3222018-01-02T18:52:32 <belcher> wrong channel, ask in #bitcoin
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3452018-01-02T20:05:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] 251Labs opened pull request #12077: Fixes issue #12067 `sendmany` curl example is wrong. (master...patch/12067/fixes-sendmany-curl-example) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12077
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3542018-01-02T20:25:33 <spudowiar> Is 3b7cd5d89a226426df9c723d1f9ddfe08b7d1def a commit from Satoshi Nakamoto? The Git author is s_nakamoto <s_nakamoto@1a98c847-1fd6-4fd8-948a-caf3550aa51b> but I wanted to check whether these are accurate to the original authors
3552018-01-02T20:25:42 <spudowiar> Or whether that could have been sirius-m, etc.
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3602018-01-02T20:41:09 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11912: travis: Post result to irc on failure (master...Mf1712-travisIRCfail) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11912
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3892018-01-02T22:49:51 <larafale> Hello folks, can someone enlighten me on something concerning account discovery in bip 44. https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0044.mediawiki
3902018-01-02T22:50:08 <larafale> at the Address gap limit it says : "We scan just the external chains, because internal chains receive only coins that come from the associated external chains"
3912018-01-02T22:51:26 <larafale> I'm trying to reconstitute a balance deriving addresses of an xpubkey, but in order to get the account balance, i need to also look up for utxos in in the internal chain (change address)
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3932018-01-02T22:53:03 <larafale> so my question is : can you confirm that in order to get the balance of an utxo set, you must also scan for internal address ?
3942018-01-02T22:53:26 <larafale> just to be sure i'm not missing anything :) thx
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4012018-01-02T23:10:38 <phantomcircuit> larafale, "internal chains" are used only for change, so if you hit a single one that is unused, that *might* mean that there are no more
4022018-01-02T23:11:02 <phantomcircuit> however that's not really a strong guarantee
4032018-01-02T23:13:41 <larafale> yes ok i get that, but if i'm launching an account discovery on an xpub key that already have a lot of received and change adresses used, in order to get the total balance associated to that xpub i do have to look for change address
4042018-01-02T23:14:14 <larafale> it's just that the BIP 44 says that we don't need to scan for internal addresses
4052018-01-02T23:14:37 <larafale> but if i don't do that I'm unable to get total balance
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4082018-01-02T23:15:47 <larafale> can you confirm ? :)
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4132018-01-02T23:18:27 <larafale> I'm already succefully achieving what i want to do (which is get total balance of an xpub key), but bip 44 confused me, and I just want to make sure that scanning for both received & change address is the good way to achieve account discovery
4142018-01-02T23:22:16 <phantomcircuit> larafale, it depends on how expensive it is to check for previous usage
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4162018-01-02T23:22:42 <phantomcircuit> if you have a complete set of all the script pubkeys ever used
4172018-01-02T23:22:44 <phantomcircuit> then it's cheap
4182018-01-02T23:22:51 <phantomcircuit> but building/maintaining that is not cheap
4192018-01-02T23:22:52 <phantomcircuit> so
4202018-01-02T23:22:54 <phantomcircuit> :shrug:
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4252018-01-02T23:29:44 <larafale> @phantomcircuit Electrum let you query utxos by address, so i'm proxying to my electrum client to scan.
4262018-01-02T23:32:32 <larafale> phantomcircuit: ok thx for the feedback
4272018-01-02T23:36:42 * luke-jr wonders what HD wallets do for refund addresses (BIP70)
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4292018-01-02T23:44:37 <larafale> luke-jr: thx will check
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4312018-01-02T23:48:42 <sipa> luke-jr: they're treated as new addresses
4322018-01-02T23:56:21 <phantomcircuit> larafale, ye but for current utxo's or for old ones?
4332018-01-02T23:56:34 <phantomcircuit> cause you need to know about transaction outputs generallt not just unspent ones for that