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 16 2018-01-10T00:40:06  <cfields> oh, i guess the port doesn't go over the wire for A/AAA queries anyway
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 21 2018-01-10T00:58:24  <BlueMatt> cfields: yea, was gonna say, since when is there a *port* in dns queries?
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 23 2018-01-10T00:59:33  <BlueMatt> I mean there's the stupid bullshit query stuff, but no one uses that garbage
 24 2018-01-10T00:59:36  <echeveria> BlueMatt: when I do a AAAA lookup there's lots of ports.
 25 2018-01-10T00:59:42  <BlueMatt> .........
 26 2018-01-10T01:00:24  <cfields> BlueMatt: yea, I was going by getaddrinfo and a bad reading of its man page. A look at the spec says otherwise, ofc.
 27 2018-01-10T01:00:56  <echeveria> not like we use non-standard ports
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 31 2018-01-10T01:28:01  <luke-jr> A/AAAA doesn't support ports
 32 2018-01-10T01:28:16  <luke-jr> you need to use SRV (which does get used for other things) for that
 33 2018-01-10T01:28:57  <cfields> luke-jr: right
 34 2018-01-10T01:32:05  <BlueMatt> i mean not really...who the fuck uses SRV? Aside from SIP, apparently
 35 2018-01-10T01:32:22  <luke-jr> XMPP at least
 36 2018-01-10T01:32:29  <BlueMatt> lol who uses XMPP
 37 2018-01-10T01:32:41  <luke-jr> anyone who likes IM and open standards?
 38 2018-01-10T01:32:48  <BlueMatt> soooo...no one?
 39 2018-01-10T01:32:57  <luke-jr> lots of people
 40 2018-01-10T01:33:22  * luke-jr looks at his contact list since Google broke standards compatibility
 41 2018-01-10T01:33:26  <luke-jr> ok, just my family
 42 2018-01-10T01:33:32  <luke-jr> :|
 43 2018-01-10T01:37:52  <BlueMatt> see? no one who cares enough about open standards to buck their social media trends uses IM cause they're all already using irc :p
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 78 2018-01-10T04:08:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #12136: Implement BIP 174 Partially Signed Bitcoin Transactions (master...psbt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12136
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 80 2018-01-10T04:34:38  <meshcollider> Wow lots of cool PRs opening today \o/
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113 2018-01-10T07:01:37  <battulga> Hello there! I'm a newbee here to seek you guys's counsel :)
114 2018-01-10T07:02:15  <battulga> where i should look at first
115 2018-01-10T07:03:03  <battulga> is there anyone?
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118 2018-01-10T07:13:18  <sipa> cfields: port?
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120 2018-01-10T07:14:18  <cfields> sipa: see follow-up. I misread what actually goes over the wire.
121 2018-01-10T07:17:31  <sipa> ok
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264 2018-01-10T15:41:52  <JayBerg> hey guys - do you need help with qt for segwit?
265 2018-01-10T15:42:27  <JayBerg> my latest QT/bitcoin project: https://github.com/SatoshiFantasy/--skillSale
266 2018-01-10T15:42:51  <JayBerg> /test
267 2018-01-10T15:43:15  <provoostenator> JayBerg: always... See e.g. https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AWallet and https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3AGUI
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270 2018-01-10T15:44:45  <provoostenator> More specific to SegWit are #11403, #11937 and #11991.
271 2018-01-10T15:44:50  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11403 | SegWit wallet support by sipa · Pull Request #11403 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
272 2018-01-10T15:44:53  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11937 | Qt: Setting for deciding address type (legacy, p2sh or bech32) by hsjoberg · Pull Request #11937 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
273 2018-01-10T15:44:55  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11991 | [qt] Receive: checkbox for bech32 address by Sjors · Pull Request #11991 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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275 2018-01-10T15:45:12  <JayBerg> any talk on moving to QML instead of widgets?
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277 2018-01-10T15:48:04  <JayBerg> i appeciate the issues tracker, and will take a look… its just that i spend all day coding QT for bitcoin/blockchain and have lots of code an insight that can help if there are big blocking issues etc. jay at protoblock dot com
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279 2018-01-10T15:50:44  <sipa> JayBerg: review and testing are always the bottlenecks ;)
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281 2018-01-10T15:53:09  <promag> JayBerg: problem with QML is JS engine
282 2018-01-10T15:53:35  <JayBerg> Sipa: so your saying there is an implimentation already? maybe best bet would be to fork and create a new wallet outside of core… segwit has been ready for years.. cant see major issues with qt front end..
283 2018-01-10T15:53:37  <promag> something that most don't want to see
284 2018-01-10T15:54:05  <JayBerg> promag: no need  to use JS in qml
285 2018-01-10T15:54:14  <JayBerg> promag: ok for security reasons?
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287 2018-01-10T15:55:08  <promag> JayBerg: probably there is more interest in something like #10973
288 2018-01-10T15:55:11  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10973 | Refactor: separate wallet from node by ryanofsky · Pull Request #10973 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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290 2018-01-10T15:55:35  <promag> JayBerg: reasons :)
291 2018-01-10T15:57:10  <JayBerg> its not like QML will run client side JS from internet … we see all the source… unless im missing something… c++ can do everyhting js can do ?
292 2018-01-10T15:57:45  <promag> JayBerg: can you list pros of a qml wallet? I like qml, but I don't see why would it change
293 2018-01-10T15:58:07  <JayBerg> qml will solve those display issues with differnt dpis
294 2018-01-10T15:58:52  <promag> little issue to justify a big refactor
295 2018-01-10T15:59:04  <sipa> JayBerg: segwit support for the bitcoin core *wallet* is the issue; UI will work automatically
296 2018-01-10T15:59:12  <JayBerg> widgets is old buggy and no longer used
297 2018-01-10T15:59:22  <sipa> there's nothing special that needs to be done in the UI
298 2018-01-10T15:59:32  <JayBerg> ok sipa what is the issue? so what is a “wallet” if not thegui
299 2018-01-10T15:59:41  <promag> JayBerg: that's not true, even QtCreator is widget based
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301 2018-01-10T16:00:35  <sipa> JayBerg: the logic that determines which transactions are yours, construct paymemts, keep track of your balance, can import keys, ...
302 2018-01-10T16:01:19  <JayBerg> sipa - is there a cli for sending segwit in core?
303 2018-01-10T16:01:32  <JayBerg> or creating segwit tx ?
304 2018-01-10T16:01:45  <sipa> JayBerg: all part of #11403
305 2018-01-10T16:01:52  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11403 | SegWit wallet support by sipa · Pull Request #11403 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
306 2018-01-10T16:02:30  <sipa> there was rudimentary support before, but it is not user friendly (it needed manual rpc calls to construct addresses etc; enough for testing, but not for users)
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308 2018-01-10T16:03:41  <JayBerg> ok - im assuming bech32 - is not included with “segwit support” - to much at once
309 2018-01-10T16:03:56  <JayBerg> ok will take a look.. and brb
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311 2018-01-10T16:03:59  <sipa> bech32 is already merged in master
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315 2018-01-10T16:10:00  <promag> sipa: regarding #11991
316 2018-01-10T16:10:03  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11991 | [qt] Receive: checkbox for bech32 address by Sjors · Pull Request #11991 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
317 2018-01-10T16:10:23  <promag> ping provoostenator
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319 2018-01-10T16:11:59  <promag> assuming bech32 is the default address type, it would be annoying always having the checkbox disabled there don't you think?
320 2018-01-10T16:12:49  <promag> again, assuming bech32 is the default address type, does it make sense to create a payment to other address type?
321 2018-01-10T16:13:18  <instagibbs> promag, "make a payment"?
322 2018-01-10T16:13:22  <sipa> i think it will be years before p2sh witness won't be needed anymore
323 2018-01-10T16:13:29  <instagibbs> err "create a payment"
324 2018-01-10T16:13:31  <promag> for instance, receive a payment from an older wallet?
325 2018-01-10T16:13:39  <sipa> promag: yes, exavtly that
326 2018-01-10T16:13:44  <instagibbs> it will accept those, yes
327 2018-01-10T16:13:52  <sipa> not every wallet software is going to support bech32 immediately
328 2018-01-10T16:14:29  <promag> so, the wallet must allow a p2sh address in the UI
329 2018-01-10T16:14:54  <promag> instagibbs: ya sorry, bad writing
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331 2018-01-10T16:15:24  <promag> so the checkbox is not an option
332 2018-01-10T16:15:33  <sipa> hmmm
333 2018-01-10T16:15:36  <sipa> ?
334 2018-01-10T16:15:42  <sipa> what is wrong with that
335 2018-01-10T16:16:24  <promag> with -addresstype=bech32 how can I request a payment for p2sh?
336 2018-01-10T16:17:04  <sipa> by specifying it explicitly
337 2018-01-10T16:17:25  <sipa> i'm confused :)
338 2018-01-10T16:17:43  <sipa> -addresstype only sets the default, it doesn't force anything
339 2018-01-10T16:18:56  <sipa> for the GUI i would expect that -addresstype maybe controls what the checkbox is set to by default
340 2018-01-10T16:19:54  <promag> but with -addresstype=bech32 the checkbox is disabled
341 2018-01-10T16:20:43  <promag> See https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11991#pullrequestreview-86170976
342 2018-01-10T16:20:56  <sipa> oh, i haven't looked at any GUI prs
343 2018-01-10T16:21:33  <promag> So with -addresstype=bech32 there is no way to request payment to p2sh
344 2018-01-10T16:21:47  <sipa> that is bad :)
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356 2018-01-10T16:47:15  <owowo> very bad.
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384 2018-01-10T17:24:49  <JayBerg> b
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387 2018-01-10T17:28:39  <JayBerg> i have 20+ years of c++ for fintech.. and would love to contribute to bitcoin-core.. I just cant seem to find the time. however, half my time is for outside consulting gigs to pay bills, so if there are any bounties or paid consulting gigs that will allow me to contribute. im all ears.. otherwise, i should be able to contribute starting mid-Feburary (after Super Bowl)
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407 2018-01-10T18:25:45  <cfields> jonasschnelli: ping. mind going ahead and grabbing a temp codesigning key just in case?
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433 2018-01-10T19:38:35  <jonasschnelli> cfields: okay. Will do
434 2018-01-10T19:38:51  <jonasschnelli> cfields: do you want to provide the CSR (aka hold the key)
435 2018-01-10T19:39:01  <jonasschnelli> I guess you already do that for the current signing cert?
436 2018-01-10T19:40:15  <cfields> jonasschnelli: I was going to suggest that you just do it, but I guess it doesn't make sense for us to additively hold up releases :(
437 2018-01-10T19:40:32  <cfields> (though hopefully it will only be used ~once anyway)
438 2018-01-10T19:40:58  <cfields> so.. I guess so
439 2018-01-10T19:42:16  <cfields> jonasschnelli: will you be available for ~an hour? I'm going to try to create the CSR by hand as if for the threshold key
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441 2018-01-10T19:47:29  <jonasschnelli> cfields: Yes. I'm around for 1h. Okay... let me create one then
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443 2018-01-10T19:51:51  <jimpo> If anyone feels like reading some code, I'm looking for reviews on #11857
444 2018-01-10T19:51:54  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11857 | Build tx index in parallel with validation by jimpo · Pull Request #11857 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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446 2018-01-10T19:58:24  <cfields> jonasschnelli: heh, not sure what the plan is. Are you creating the CSR or me?
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461 2018-01-10T20:23:12  <jonasschnelli> cfields: sorry.. was off for some minutes... I dunno. What is preferable, I do it are you?
462 2018-01-10T20:23:28  <jonasschnelli> I can hold the key in a relatively secure env... though not cold
463 2018-01-10T20:29:49  <cfields> jonasschnelli: ok, sounds good to me
464 2018-01-10T20:30:56  <jonasschnelli> cfields: okay. will do in the evening... (in 10h)
465 2018-01-10T20:31:33  <cfields> jonasschnelli: if you happen to have it handy, could you go ahead and gen the key so that I can sign a message with the pubkey?
466 2018-01-10T20:31:48  <cfields> If it's not convenient, no problem
467 2018-01-10T20:32:54  <jonasschnelli> cfields: Okay. I have the key and the csr
468 2018-01-10T20:33:41  <cfields> jonasschnelli: oh, perfect. If you send me the csr I can just grab the pubkey out of it
469 2018-01-10T20:34:03  <jonasschnelli> Okay... comes per email
470 2018-01-10T20:34:31  <cfields> thanks!
471 2018-01-10T20:35:20  <jonasschnelli> The CRS or the CRT?
472 2018-01-10T20:35:23  <jonasschnelli> *CSR
473 2018-01-10T20:35:48  <jonasschnelli> I guess the cert hold the pkey... so the CSR
474 2018-01-10T20:36:59  <cfields> oh heh, you already got a crt?
475 2018-01-10T20:37:38  <cfields> yes, the csr. The crt should just be a cert containing the pubkey, signed by apple
476 2018-01-10T20:37:54  <jonasschnelli> cfields: okay. Sent you the crt.
477 2018-01-10T20:38:06  <jonasschnelli> Yes. I have also done the whole process (it's pretty easy nowadays).-
478 2018-01-10T20:38:49  <cfields> got it. Thanks again!
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481 2018-01-10T20:40:26  <cfields> sorry for the rush, I'm hoping I can figure out how to get apple's timestamp server to sign something arbitrary before our cert expires
482 2018-01-10T20:48:32  <jonasschnelli> cfields: no need to be sorry. :)
483 2018-01-10T20:48:38  <jonasschnelli> Tell me also if you need more.
484 2018-01-10T20:48:45  <jonasschnelli> I'm on/off today... so expect a delay
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486 2018-01-10T20:49:57  <cfields> no worries
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528 2018-01-10T22:48:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] TheBlueMatt opened pull request #12138: Track best-possible-headers (master...2017-10-best-header-tracking) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12138
529 2018-01-10T22:48:51  <BlueMatt> jonasschnelli: if you ever want to revive your spv mode patch, you'll probably want that ^
530 2018-01-10T22:49:56  <jonasschnelli> BlueMatt: thanks... will have a look.
531 2018-01-10T22:50:00  <promag_> BlueMatt: #11041 is calling for you
532 2018-01-10T22:50:03  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11041 | Add LookupBlockIndex by promag · Pull Request #11041 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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534 2018-01-10T22:50:08  <jonasschnelli> I think the whole light client (SPV) mode needs discussion firsat
535 2018-01-10T22:50:10  <jonasschnelli> *first
536 2018-01-10T22:50:31  <BlueMatt> promag: I know, I know
537 2018-01-10T22:50:42  <instagibbs> it's not that "light" :)
538 2018-01-10T22:52:08  <jonasschnelli> instagibbs: you mean in regards of the code diff size? :)
539 2018-01-10T22:52:40  <jonasschnelli> BlueMatt: 12138 pr description looks wrong formated
540 2018-01-10T22:53:43  <BlueMatt> jonasschnelli: cause I copied from a comment in the code....picky picky ya'll
541 2018-01-10T22:54:13  <jonasschnelli> BlueMatt: PR description is advertisement! You need to win some reviewers with it. :)
542 2018-01-10T22:54:38  <BlueMatt> if that's our model of review I think we're screwed....
543 2018-01-10T22:54:52  <jonasschnelli> heh,... that's indeed true.
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545 2018-01-10T22:55:34  * BlueMatt glares at #10984
546 2018-01-10T22:55:36  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10984 | Allow 2 simultaneous (compact-)block downloads by TheBlueMatt · Pull Request #10984 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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554 2018-01-10T23:19:31  <promag> forever alone #12083
555 2018-01-10T23:19:33  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12083 | Improve getchaintxstats test coverage by promag · Pull Request #12083 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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