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 132018-01-17T00:28:22  <promag> is #12194 something to go in the next version?
 142018-01-17T00:28:24  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12194 | Add change type option to fundrawtransaction by promag · Pull Request #12194 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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 242018-01-17T00:53:06  <meshcollider> do we want #11708 in 0.16 as well for better P2SH-P2WSH support or no
 252018-01-17T00:53:08  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11708 | Add P2SH-P2WSH support to signrawtransaction and listunspent RPC by MeshCollider · Pull Request #11708 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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 342018-01-17T01:18:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #12206: qa: Have wallet wait for TransactionAddedToMempool (master...Mf1801-qaWalletMempoolAsync) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12206
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 992018-01-17T06:20:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] CryptAxe opened pull request #12207: Start renaming functional tests & update test runner (master...updateTests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12207
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1062018-01-17T06:33:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] CryptAxe closed pull request #12207: Start renaming functional tests & update test runner (master...updateTests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12207
1072018-01-17T06:49:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cad504bf4c30...062c8b69f4cc
1082018-01-17T06:49:04  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 63ac890 Sjors Provoost: [qt] receive tab: bech32 address opt-in checkbox...
1092018-01-17T06:49:05  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 062c8b6 Jonas Schnelli: Merge #11991: [qt] Receive: checkbox for bech32 address...
1102018-01-17T06:49:47  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #11991: [qt] Receive: checkbox for bech32 address (master...segwit-qt-bech32-receive) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11991
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1142018-01-17T07:03:54  <luke-jr> … that tooltip kinda sucks. people don't spend from addresses :/
1152018-01-17T07:10:57  <sipa> luke-jr: improve it!
1162018-01-17T07:11:11  <luke-jr> working on it ;)
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1182018-01-17T07:12:07  <luke-jr> I wonder if there's a nicer name than "Bech32" to use here
1192018-01-17T07:13:32  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: 11937 uses "Native SegWit (Bech32)"
1202018-01-17T07:13:45  <jonasschnelli> s/B/b
1212018-01-17T07:14:53  <luke-jr> sgtm
1222018-01-17T07:15:05  <jonasschnelli> sipa: since you have commented on #11281 (0.16 milestone), I'd like to see your ack there...
1232018-01-17T07:15:09  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11281 | Avoid permanent cs_main/cs_wallet lock during RescanFromTime by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #11281 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1242018-01-17T07:18:02  <sipa> jonasschnelli: about to pack and fly, but i'm fine with the split of the cs if it's documented
1252018-01-17T07:18:19  <jonasschnelli> sipa: Okay. No hurry... thanks
1262018-01-17T07:26:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #12208: GUI: Rephrase Bech32 checkbox texts, and enable it with legacy address default (master...gui_legacy_bech32) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12208
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1292018-01-17T07:32:51  <meshcollider> sipa: may want to delete the weird comment here  https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/d4aa54c5af925bd0ed81c7a9ffab457149e5d682#commitcomment-26900790
1302018-01-17T07:32:52  <jonasschnelli> luke-jrl: whats the reason to do that: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12208/files#diff-dd8e54f9b8311348e3abf1ecb65eda10R151?
1312018-01-17T07:33:14  <jonasschnelli> If someone wants Bech32, why override to OUTPUT_TYPE_P2SH_SEGWIT?
1322018-01-17T07:34:43  <sipa> meshcollider: can't do that right now (on phone)
1332018-01-17T07:34:54  <luke-jr> jonasschnelli: that's if the checkbox is unchecked
1342018-01-17T07:35:04  <luke-jr> if they have it set to Bech32, the checkbox is checked by default
1352018-01-17T07:35:04  <meshcollider> sipa: all good, sorry I posted that before I read your message about packing :)
1362018-01-17T07:35:12  <meshcollider> maybe jonasschnelli can then
1372018-01-17T07:35:37  <jonasschnelli> meshcollider: done
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1402018-01-17T07:48:21  <luke-jr> should we bump libsecp256k1 for 0.16? not sure how big a deal the optimisations are
1412018-01-17T07:53:13  <sipa> i don't think there is anything very important
1422018-01-17T07:54:42  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: I was just confuse that you called OUTPUT_TYPE_P2SH_SEGWIT legacy
1432018-01-17T07:55:42  <luke-jr> jonasschnelli: I did?
1442018-01-17T07:56:02  <jonasschnelli> <bitcoin-git>	[bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #12208: GUI: Rephrase Bech32 checkbox texts, and enable it with legacy address default
1452018-01-17T07:56:04  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12208 | GUI: Rephrase Bech32 checkbox texts, and enable it with legacy address default by luke-jr · Pull Request #12208 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1462018-01-17T07:56:19  <luke-jr> jonasschnelli: that's referring to the ability to use Bech32, if your addresstype=legacy
1472018-01-17T07:57:04  <jonasschnelli> Ah.. now I see.
1482018-01-17T07:59:02  <luke-jr> jonasschnelli: squashed
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1542018-01-17T08:22:57  <gmaxwell> sipa: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11991#issuecomment-357039103  < this QR encoded Bech32 address is apparently truncated in the QR code itself and it doesn't appear to be in allcaps.
1552018-01-17T08:24:56  <gmaxwell> oh, I see, it's regtest, that threw me.
1562018-01-17T08:25:36  <gmaxwell> but it still isn't allcaps and should be.
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1592018-01-17T08:33:58  <gmaxwell> nevermind, I see there is a PR for that
1602018-01-17T08:36:09  <wumpus> only an issue
1612018-01-17T08:36:40  <gmaxwell> oh I see, issue. (ah, thats why I didn't previously see it on the PR list-- I was wondering how I missed it!)
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1632018-01-17T08:43:15  <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: The QRCode truncation should be fixed in master
1642018-01-17T08:43:27  <jonasschnelli> #12173
1652018-01-17T08:43:29  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12173 | [Qt] Use flexible font size for QRCode image address by jonasschnelli · Pull Request #12173 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1662018-01-17T08:43:55  <jonasschnelli> allcaps is a different thing
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1692018-01-17T08:45:24  <gmaxwell> jonasschnelli: I was confused by the regtest prefix and thought the prefix was getting truncated.
1702018-01-17T08:47:12  <wumpus> probably want only the URL encoding to capitalize it, and not in other places like below the image
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1722018-01-17T08:48:54  <gmaxwell> Personally I think allcaps monospace addresses usually look nicer, at least when presented in isolation. might want to look at it both ways before deciding.
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1742018-01-17T08:49:19  <wumpus> but I think caps are wider so it'd have to use an even smaller font
1752018-01-17T08:49:54  <gmaxwell> they're the same size in monospace font.
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1772018-01-17T08:50:06  <wumpus> yes
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2312018-01-17T11:09:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/062c8b69f4cc...adce1de9a6ce
2322018-01-17T11:09:23  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 49e5f3f Wladimir J. van der Laan: rpc: Add deprecation error for `getinfo`...
2332018-01-17T11:09:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master adce1de Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #12198: rpc: Add deprecation error for `getinfo`...
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2362018-01-17T11:10:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #12198: rpc: Add deprecation error for `getinfo` (master...2018_01_getinfo_deprecation_message) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12198
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2412018-01-17T11:16:25  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/adce1de9a6ce...c7978be89964
2422018-01-17T11:16:26  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0b63e3c Andrew Chow: Clamp walletpassphrase timeout to 2^(30) seconds and check its bounds...
2432018-01-17T11:16:26  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 134cdc7 Andrew Chow: Test walletpassphrase timeout bounds and clamping
2442018-01-17T11:16:27  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c7978be Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #12101: Clamp walletpassphrase timeout to 2^30 seconds and check its bounds...
2452018-01-17T11:17:05  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #12101: Clamp walletpassphrase timeout to 2^30 seconds and check its bounds (master...wallet-unlock-time-int32) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12101
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2572018-01-17T11:52:16  <meshcollider> What actually needs to be done for #11048, since its in the 0.16 milestone
2582018-01-17T11:52:17  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11048 | Weird gettransaction details on testnet with segwit · Issue #11048 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2592018-01-17T11:52:34  <meshcollider> do the current PRs resolve that or does it still need work
2602018-01-17T11:56:20  <gmaxwell> I think thats a non-issue.
2612018-01-17T11:56:31  <gmaxwell> non-change send to selfs are not hidden.
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2632018-01-17T11:57:03  <gmaxwell> otherwise a service with multiple users which sends funds on user commands would lose payments when one user sends to another user by address.
2642018-01-17T11:59:55  <luke-jr> I agree that looks as expected in RPC
2652018-01-17T12:00:20  <gmaxwell> (and 'custom change' to a non-change address is not treated as change)
2662018-01-17T12:01:09  <meshcollider> ok, wumpus or someone can remove it from the milestone then :)
2672018-01-17T12:01:19  <luke-jr> I really don't see the use case for 'custom change'.
2682018-01-17T12:02:16  <gmaxwell> I whined a bit about it when implemented. I could contrive up some for you, e.g. you're slowly migrating from one old wallet to a new one, and want all your change to go to the new one.
2692018-01-17T12:02:53  <gmaxwell> it's certantly an advanced feature.
2702018-01-17T12:03:15  <luke-jr> hmm, that's an interesting idea
2712018-01-17T12:03:45  <gmaxwell> I can't think of any other usecase.
2722018-01-17T12:04:04  <gmaxwell> oh sorry, I know another one but its bad.
2732018-01-17T12:04:17  <gmaxwell> E.g. user really insistant on keeping all their funds on a single address.
2742018-01-17T12:04:26  <gmaxwell> Which there can be justifications for, but they're still bad. :)
2752018-01-17T12:05:07  <wumpus> meshcollider: ok
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2772018-01-17T12:10:41  <sipa> i can't ooen an issue now, but we should mark addwitnessaddress as deprecated
2782018-01-17T12:14:18  <gmaxwell> Does it do anything anymore?
2792018-01-17T12:14:59  <gmaxwell> meshcollider: I went and added some explination to that issue with the sends to self.
2802018-01-17T12:15:13  <meshcollider> gmaxwell: sounds good, thanks
2812018-01-17T12:15:44  <gmaxwell> meshcollider: thanks for bringing attention to it.
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2832018-01-17T12:20:01  <sipa> gmaxwell: it probably at least resets the address label
2842018-01-17T12:22:19  <wumpus> something like  #12210?
2852018-01-17T12:22:20  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12210 | wallet: Deprecate addwitnessaddress by laanwj · Pull Request #12210 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2862018-01-17T12:22:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #12210: wallet: Deprecate addwitnessaddress (master...2018_01_deprecate_addwitnessaddress) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12210
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2882018-01-17T12:29:45  <meshcollider> ping kallewoof: are you going to reopen #11489 for 0.16?
2892018-01-17T12:29:47  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11489 | [wallet] sendtoaddress style argument by kallewoof · Pull Request #11489 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2902018-01-17T12:29:57  <meshcollider> to close #11134
2912018-01-17T12:29:58  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11134 | Sendtoaddress flag for sending change to a segwit address? · Issue #11134 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2922018-01-17T12:33:31  <meshcollider> wumpus: is that !IsDeprecatedRPCEnabled() stuff overkill for this case
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2942018-01-17T12:34:09  <gmaxwell> probably, but uniformity is cheap.
2952018-01-17T12:34:37  <meshcollider> gmaxwell: I mean he hasn't currently used it, was wondering if that was a deliberate choice :)
2962018-01-17T12:34:48  <gmaxwell> ah!
2972018-01-17T12:35:48  <wumpus> meshcollider: how does that work?
2982018-01-17T12:36:12  <wumpus> FWIW I've added it to the release notes as well now
2992018-01-17T12:36:20  <meshcollider> wumpus: its the stuff which forces you to use -deprecatedrpc=addwitnessaddress argument to use it
3002018-01-17T12:36:45  <meshcollider> like estimatefee uses
3012018-01-17T12:36:53  <wumpus> oh I see, sure
3022018-01-17T12:36:56  <gmaxwell> might be premature to do that?
3032018-01-17T12:37:05  <gmaxwell> do we want it to immediately stop working without settings?
3042018-01-17T12:37:15  <gmaxwell> (I'm asking, no strong opinions)
3052018-01-17T12:37:19  <meshcollider> are we planning on removing it in 0.17?
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3072018-01-17T12:37:40  <wumpus> I was assuming it would be removed in next major release, if not, should update the release notes :)
3082018-01-17T12:37:57  <meshcollider> It should be a trivial transition for most use cases I'd imagine, and it was always advertised as experimental so I'd say its fine how it is
3092018-01-17T12:38:02  <wumpus> waiting another release and going for 0.18 is fine with me too
3102018-01-17T12:38:09  <gmaxwell> yea, I suppose! if we're going to remove it in 0.17 then the disruptive choice is probably the right one.
3112018-01-17T12:38:24  <meshcollider> nah it shouldn't have gained enough use in this short timeframe to be necessary waiting another whole release
3122018-01-17T12:38:30  <meshcollider> i vote remove in 17
3132018-01-17T12:38:54  <gmaxwell> strangly I don't feel any cosmic force hurrying the removal of no-op RPCs.  Perhaps one GOOD argument for going faster is this: people are going to keep following old "how to segwit" guides.
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3152018-01-17T12:39:34  <wumpus> gmaxwell: which is another good reason to use the IsDeprecatedRPCEnabled()  stuff, I guess, as otherwise it will seem to just keep working a s intended
3162018-01-17T12:39:49  <gmaxwell> yes, exactly, sorry "going faster" wasn't clear.
3172018-01-17T12:39:59  <meshcollider> yeah users tend to ignore help text even if it is in caps ;)
3182018-01-17T12:40:12  <gmaxwell> banner blindness.
3192018-01-17T12:40:30  <wumpus> well, more that they'll not look at the help if they 'help' is some online or wiki guide
3202018-01-17T12:41:53  <gmaxwell> right, which is why its important to fail.  I would sort of like if in general we start breaking interfaces a little faster, at least until we cause complaints. we've gone to far in the never breaking things direction for too long. :) and IsDeprecatedRPCEnabled is a pretty nice middle ground.
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3252018-01-17T12:56:04  <UnderDog_> good morning
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3272018-01-17T12:57:09  <meshcollider> UnderDog_: maybe for some ;)
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3292018-01-17T12:57:31  <UnderDog_> work got cancled today
3302018-01-17T12:57:34  <UnderDog_> bad freeze
3312018-01-17T12:58:08  <UnderDog_> i still woke up at 4am and so i decided to make a whiskey and do laundry
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3332018-01-17T12:59:45  <UnderDog_> i haven't used IRC in almost 20 years
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3362018-01-17T13:00:30  <meshcollider> UnderDog_: I think you might be in the wrong channel, maybe try #bitcoin for general discussion on it, this channel is just for bitcoin core development
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3392018-01-17T13:02:22  <UnderDog_> well i'm not part of the development team but I did not see another IRC available and thought I might be likely to find similar persons of interest here.
3402018-01-17T13:03:31  <sipa> #bitcoin may be a better place
3412018-01-17T13:04:19  <UnderDog_> ok
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3432018-01-17T13:05:11  <UnderDog_> only think I might be able to help with is thermodynamic's and heat extraction designs for your servers
3442018-01-17T13:05:27  <UnderDog_> no need ofr  's
3452018-01-17T13:05:29  <UnderDog_> for*
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4172018-01-17T15:27:55  <Pritty_Kitty> Hello and thank you to all good Core developers for what you do.
4182018-01-17T15:28:03  <Pritty_Kitty> I'm trying to learn the system and use it but hope to get answer for a question:
4192018-01-17T15:28:12  <Pritty_Kitty> I have a 0.15.1 node with a "testnet=true" setting. getblocktemplate gives me a template where "txid" and "hash" field are identical for transaction.
4202018-01-17T15:28:19  <Pritty_Kitty> Should they not be different for SegWit is running on testnet?
4212018-01-17T15:28:29  <Pritty_Kitty> Will i use the "hash" field to create my witness hash tree and put a commit in my coinbase value? Do i put this commit value AFTER the BIP34 blockheight value?
4222018-01-17T15:29:32  <Pritty_Kitty> I am trying to make blocks.
4232018-01-17T15:29:48  <Pritty_Kitty> I want them SegWit compatible
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4512018-01-17T16:25:58  <Randolf> Pritty_Kitty:  You seem to be asking a "how to use Bitcoin" type of question.  You'll likely find that such questions are better suited for the #bitcoin channel as this one you're asking in now is specifically focused on Bitcoin core software development.
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4812018-01-17T17:15:17  <Pritty_Kitty> No no i am a developer asking technical questions about bitcoin. I have built php code to deserialize transactions and build a merkle tree. Now i am working on the witness tree.
4822018-01-17T17:17:00  <Pritty_Kitty> But i could just mine regular blocks without SegWit. But I know you want SegWit so i hope for answers to my questions
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4882018-01-17T17:23:06  <instagibbs> Pritty_Kitty, this isn't a question for Bitcoin Core development though. maybe #bitcoin-dev
4892018-01-17T17:23:27  <Pritty_Kitty> ok ty i will try there
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5392018-01-17T18:30:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky opened pull request #12211: Avoid potential null dereference in ReceiveCoinsDialog constructor (master...pr/nullrecv) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12211
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5942018-01-17T20:00:55  <jojeyh> Can anyboyd give me a brief explanation for "struct zero_after_free_allocator" ?
5952018-01-17T20:01:19  <jojeyh> What is the point of this object instead of a traditional std::allocator ?
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5982018-01-17T20:01:50  <jojeyh> in file "bitcoin/src/support/allocators/zeroafterfree.h"
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6042018-01-17T20:06:38  <luke-jr> jojeyh: std::allocator probably doesn't zero when freeing
6052018-01-17T20:06:50  <jojeyh> can you explain what this means?
6062018-01-17T20:06:53  <luke-jr> jojeyh: in other words, it leaves the data in memory
6072018-01-17T20:07:20  <luke-jr> which means when something else is allocated (hypothetically even in another program), it might have the data in its new memory
6082018-01-17T20:07:28  <jojeyh> luke-jr: ok, so basically if a std::allocator were used then even after the memory is freed the bits will still be nonzero ?
6092018-01-17T20:07:34  <luke-jr> right
6102018-01-17T20:07:42  <jojeyh> k thanks
6112018-01-17T20:08:01  <luke-jr> this is particularly bad if the memory might contain private key or passphrase info
6122018-01-17T20:08:36  <jojeyh> ah that makes sense
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6582018-01-17T22:38:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] bitspill opened pull request #12212: fix spelling (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12212
6592018-01-17T22:40:16  <mrannanay> #11227 seems to have both milestones covered. Needs rebase.
6602018-01-17T22:40:19  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11227 | WIP: switch to libevent for node socket handling by theuni · Pull Request #11227 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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6682018-01-17T22:50:11  <promag> sipa: addmultisigaddress should have address_type option?
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6882018-01-17T23:40:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #12213: 2018 01 addmultisigaddress address type (master...2018-01-addmultisigaddress-address-type) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12213
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