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  6 2018-03-11T00:33:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] eklitzke closed pull request #12664: Rename LevelDB background compaction thread (master...bgcompact) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12664
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 33 2018-03-11T02:51:46  <ProfMac_2> A rumor says that a core developer made a block-chain scanner to replace the znort scanner.  I would like to learn where this is.
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 35 2018-03-11T02:55:12  <Randolf> ProfMac_2:  If it's a rumour, then shouldn't the first step be to summarily dismiss it?
 36 2018-03-11T02:55:47  <luke-jr> #bitcoin-core-dev is not "ask Core devs questions so you can build your scamcoin"
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 38 2018-03-11T03:00:12  <ProfMac_2> Randolf, verify.  As this is a direct place to do.
 39 2018-03-11T03:00:54  <sipa> sounds totally plausible - many developers work on various projects
 40 2018-03-11T03:01:02  <sipa> but i haven't heard about something like that
 41 2018-03-11T03:01:28  <ProfMac_2> Thanks, sipa.
 42 2018-03-11T03:01:48  <sipa> it's also the first time i hear znort mentioned in years - i sort of assume there have been various other related things
 43 2018-03-11T03:04:08  <ProfMac_2> I searched the best I could, and ended up there.  I'm starting to think that small utilities put into the best design place in the core-client is the best way to simultaneously get a working appliance, and learn the core code.
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 45 2018-03-11T03:06:46  <Randolf> ProfMac_2:  Okay, fair enough.
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 48 2018-03-11T03:24:43  <windsok> ProfMac_2: not sure if it's what you are looking for, but https://github.com/citp/BlockSci has a parser
 49 2018-03-11T03:25:39  <ProfMac_2> Thank you.  I'll look now.
 50 2018-03-11T03:26:04  <ProfMac_2> Um, 2 days since an update is scary.
 51 2018-03-11T03:27:08  <sipa> scary long or scary short?
 52 2018-03-11T03:28:00  <ProfMac_2> I think 19 year old are proud when they did an update minutes before an important meeting.  Older supervisors think the design is good when it is working fine 5 years later.
 53 2018-03-11T03:28:48  <ProfMac_2> 'though I formed those attitudes before git was around.
 54 2018-03-11T03:34:01  <sipa> "design still working 5 years later" is not the same as "no development at all"
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 57 2018-03-11T03:40:02  <Randolf> sipa++
 58 2018-03-11T03:43:23  <ProfMac_2> true.
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205 2018-03-11T12:20:14  <esotericnonsense> i mean, last commit to bitcoin/bitcoin is yesterday. :P
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222 2018-03-11T14:16:26  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] nvercamm opened pull request #12668: Doc: Ubuntu xenial first dependencies (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12668
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232 2018-03-11T14:47:57  <fanquake> wumpus/sipa could you ban Dungchuot7979 from GH
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273 2018-03-11T18:07:27  <sipa> sdaftuar: seems my benchmark was off, and the jacobi symbol implementation in GMP takes 2us rather than 0.2us; this means it's hardly worth it to use for hashing onto a curve for ECMH (it'd be 8.6us per update rather than 9.3us per update)
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284 2018-03-11T18:45:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] aaassad opened pull request #12670: Link (0.9...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12670
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286 2018-03-11T18:47:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa closed pull request #12670: Link (0.9...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12670
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288 2018-03-11T18:56:08  <JHDHHHH> Hello guys
289 2018-03-11T18:57:05  <JHDHHHH> I'm looking for an UTXO indexer with an (rest) api preferable
290 2018-03-11T18:57:18  <JHDHHHH> I want to get all utxo by address
291 2018-03-11T18:57:28  <JHDHHHH> any suggestions?
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333 2018-03-11T21:32:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bb98aec6743e...d8d9162f5bad
334 2018-03-11T21:32:16  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0fbed98 Akio Nakamura: [script] lint-whitespace: improve print linenumber...
335 2018-03-11T21:32:17  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d8d9162 MarcoFalke: Merge #12572: [script] lint-whitespace: find errors more easily...
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338 2018-03-11T21:33:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #12572: [script] lint-whitespace: find errors more easily (master...morelinenumber) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12572
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344 2018-03-11T21:49:03  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #12671: mempool: Avoid locking mutex that is already held by the same thread (master...avoid-locking-mutex-already-held) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12671
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350 2018-03-11T22:28:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift closed pull request #12671: mempool: Avoid locking mutex that is already held by the same thread (master...avoid-locking-mutex-already-held) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12671
351 2018-03-11T22:33:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] shmulim opened pull request #12672: Consensus: Remove unused dependencies (master...removed-unused-deps) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12672
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358 2018-03-11T22:51:38  <shmulim> First time pull-request here.. What is intended by this request "for steps to reproduce" in the given context? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12672
359 2018-03-11T22:52:30  * Randolf welcomes shmulim to Bitcoin development
360 2018-03-11T22:52:36  <sipa> shmulim: how did you find the unused dependencies?
361 2018-03-11T22:54:53  <shmulim> peer-reviewed, removed and ran all tests without. did not use IWYU.
362 2018-03-11T22:55:42  <sipa> right, but how do you know those are the only unused dependencies?
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366 2018-03-11T23:01:17  <shmulim> there may be other unused dependencies, this commit does not represent a comprehensive check..
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368 2018-03-11T23:02:42  <luke-jr> shmulim: just because it runs without them, doesn't mean they're unused (although in this case they are)
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371 2018-03-11T23:06:08  <sipa> shmulim: well if we're going to go through an effort to clean up unused dependencies, it would be nice to know it's xomprehensive
372 2018-03-11T23:06:13  <sipa> *comprehensive
373 2018-03-11T23:09:17  <luke-jr> would be nice if GCC/LLVM had a way to hide the stuff inherited from includes, such that it can at least detect missing dependencies
374 2018-03-11T23:10:32  <shmulim> it is not comprehensive.. i'll leave a note on the PR.. thank you both for the pointers.. i'll look into iwyu.
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379 2018-03-11T23:17:30  <eklitzke> I am kind of confused about how CheckInputs works. since the script execution cache can return false positives, there must be a path where the scripts are checked without checking the cache. can someone explain how that works?
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381 2018-03-11T23:23:40  <sipa> eklitzke: how can it return false positives?
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383 2018-03-11T23:24:10  <sipa> all the context, data, and flags for validation are hashed cryptographically into the cache's key
384 2018-03-11T23:24:28  <sipa> so at worst there is a discrepancy, and the entry just won't be found
385 2018-03-11T23:26:11  <eklitzke> is it not a probabilistic data structure?
386 2018-03-11T23:28:14  <sipa> it's probabilistic in the other direction
387 2018-03-11T23:28:28  <eklitzke> i see
388 2018-03-11T23:29:09  <sipa> and if you accept the chance of hash collisions on sha256, it also has a chance for false positives
389 2018-03-11T23:29:20  <sipa> but if those are a concern, we have bigger proble.s
390 2018-03-11T23:31:09  <eklitzke> i'm assuming that the problem of finding a sha256 collision is more difficult than finding a collision in the cache
391 2018-03-11T23:31:36  <sipa> hmm?
392 2018-03-11T23:31:42  <sipa> the cache stores the full hash
393 2018-03-11T23:32:00  <eklitzke> ah
394 2018-03-11T23:32:01  <sipa> its location can have collisions, in whicb case an entry will be evicted
395 2018-03-11T23:32:16  <sipa> but that still only results in a false negative
396 2018-03-11T23:32:42  <eklitzke> i had difficulty finding the original PR, it looks like the one that was merged on github is not the first PR put up (which probably has more of these details)
397 2018-03-11T23:33:19  <eklitzke> actually i might be wrong, maybe this description is using "original PR" to refer to the unsquashed version
398 2018-03-11T23:33:24  <eklitzke> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8895
399 2018-03-11T23:34:13  <sipa> that PR is about the sigcache
400 2018-03-11T23:34:22  <sipa> which is distinct from the scriptcache
401 2018-03-11T23:34:27  <sipa> i think
402 2018-03-11T23:34:33  <sipa> i'm not sure anymore
403 2018-03-11T23:38:16  <eklitzke> ok i think i understand it now
404 2018-03-11T23:39:10  <eklitzke> it's not really like a bloom filter because the original element is retained, and contains() does an == check if it finds an item in the cache, which is your point about it being probabilistic in the other direction
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406 2018-03-11T23:39:52  <eklitzke> so it just relies on sha256 of the item in the cache being unique
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410 2018-03-11T23:41:13  <sipa> it does a few interesting things
411 2018-03-11T23:41:29  <sipa> every element can be in 8 different valid locations
412 2018-03-11T23:41:48  <sipa> and it gets moved around to make space for new ones, unless a cycle forms
413 2018-03-11T23:42:21  <sipa> and when an item is marked as expired, it it retained in the cache (and findable) but just available for overwriting
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