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  2 2018-05-04T00:06:41  <cfields> jamesob: heh, no worries
  3 2018-05-04T00:07:14  <cfields> sipa: it just occured to me that Span is begging to be used for scatter/gather
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  5 2018-05-04T00:07:43  <sipa> ha, yes
  6 2018-05-04T00:08:58  <cfields> Span& even casts perfectly to iovec*
  7 2018-05-04T00:09:38  <cfields> trying to decide if we should encourage that with a helper, or encourage iovec vec(span.data(), span.size()) instead.
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  9 2018-05-04T00:11:21  <cfields> https://0bin.net/paste/gRcNPbxui+WjB-jK#rXShNTSfMZHh6hZXiUbjxHBzcUwb4dXmy2J3aUYkBzR
 10 2018-05-04T00:12:36  <sipa> that sounds awefully platform specific
 11 2018-05-04T00:12:41  <sipa> *awfully?
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 13 2018-05-04T00:13:48  <cfields> i think it's pretty universal, the struct padding is the only thing i can see practically changing...
 14 2018-05-04T00:14:08  <cfields> but I guess you're right, it doesn't save much
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 24 2018-05-04T01:10:02  <fanquake> pierre_rochard nice rupdates to bitcoinacks so far.
 25 2018-05-04T01:18:15  <pierre_rochard> Thanks fanquake! ICYMI: https://bitcoinacks.com/ I have a few ideas for the next big iteration ( https://github.com/PierreRochard/bitcoin-acks/blob/acks/README.md ), happy to add more if you have anything that is dragging you down as a contributor/reviewer/maintainer. Something I was thinking about during today’s meeting was surfacing High Priority for review PRs in the UI.
 26 2018-05-04T01:26:02  <fanquake> pierre_rochard Cool, I'll take a look. Even something as simple as a different background colour on the High Priority PRs might work.
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 29 2018-05-04T02:15:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #13165: doc: Mention good first issue list in CONTRIBUTING.md (master...good-first-issue) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13165
 30 2018-05-04T02:16:21  <luke-jr> pierre_rochard: not forcing the horizontal scrollbar off would be nice
 31 2018-05-04T02:16:55  <luke-jr> and some way to hide closed PRs
 32 2018-05-04T02:17:16  <luke-jr> not sure why adding a filter for Closed insists on the value being a date O.o
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 36 2018-05-04T03:27:30  <fanquake> Not the most useful error message for Core to spit out heh: https://0bin.net/paste/fIINOwfRR9GIR-SZ#c7Sx1+EM3HJjYaTx0C6c5Exa6MYt7AIO-RweISgWZcG
 37 2018-05-04T03:27:57  <fanquake> Looking at #13161, there seems to be a case where even after a database error Core just continues on, and then segfaults at shutdown.
 38 2018-05-04T03:27:59  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13161 | wallet: Reset BerkeleyDB handle after connection fails by real-or-random · Pull Request #13161 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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 42 2018-05-04T05:11:30  <ken2812221> fanquake: That happened while I was testing #12985 if Bitcoin Core cannot write wallet file
 43 2018-05-04T05:11:32  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12985 | Windows: Avoid launching as admin when NSIS installer ends. by JeremyRand · Pull Request #12985 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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 87 2018-05-04T07:22:10  <glaksmono> hi all
 88 2018-05-04T07:22:12  <glaksmono> anyone is around?
 89 2018-05-04T07:29:02  <luke-jr> if you have a question, just ask; don't ask to ask or if anyone is around (your client can show you there are 241 people here)
 90 2018-05-04T07:29:55  <glaksmono> Is there a tutorial somewhere on how to fork a coin?
 91 2018-05-04T07:30:09  <glaksmono> I want to learn how is Bitcoin born from the technical perspective
 92 2018-05-04T07:30:15  <glaksmono> @luke-jr
 93 2018-05-04T07:32:55  <luke-jr> it wasn't born by a fork, and such things are not on topic here
 94 2018-05-04T07:34:35  <sipa> try ##altcoin-dev
 95 2018-05-04T07:36:23  <glaksmono> thanks @sipa @luke-jr
 96 2018-05-04T07:36:27  <glaksmono> in any case, how it was born?
 97 2018-05-04T07:36:39  <glaksmono> so let's assume Satoshi on the early days finish his coding.. and then compiled
 98 2018-05-04T07:36:47  <glaksmono> then he deployed the first bitcoind in a server i presume?
 99 2018-05-04T07:37:07  <glaksmono> i also posted my question here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3526903.0
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106 2018-05-04T07:57:10  <sipa> glaksmono: this is a place for development, not bitcoin mythology
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122 2018-05-04T09:09:50  <jonasschnelli> external tx index via p2p with leveldb and ~1'000'000 record mem cache: full index via p2p localhost up to block 500'000: 87m41.629s
123 2018-05-04T09:09:52  <jonasschnelli> (SSD)
124 2018-05-04T09:10:09  <jonasschnelli> PoC: https://github.com/jonasschnelli/bitcoincore-indexd
125 2018-05-04T09:20:48  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: awesome!
126 2018-05-04T09:21:03  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: is that with or without my patch at the bitcoind side?
127 2018-05-04T09:21:18  <jonasschnelli> without... will compare performance soon
128 2018-05-04T09:22:00  <jonasschnelli> I'm working on a test setup where block 450'000 to 500'000 will be requested probably 100-1000 times... then print the median result
129 2018-05-04T09:22:11  <jonasschnelli> the client just loads the block but does not deserialize it
130 2018-05-04T09:22:48  <wumpus> right, you have block request logic in bitcoincore-indexd, so might be an idea to start from that and make a benchmarker that just pulls blocks and drops them
131 2018-05-04T09:23:14  <wumpus> I thought about making something based on the P2P functional test framework, but python is likely going to be a bottleneck then
132 2018-05-04T09:27:06  <jonasschnelli> yes. the current poc uses libbtc which is a straight forward p2p client using libevent2
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147 2018-05-04T10:11:03  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: going to try to build it
148 2018-05-04T10:11:56  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: great. with python?
149 2018-05-04T10:12:09  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: I mean your indexd project
150 2018-05-04T10:12:34  <wumpus> and try to do some benchmarking with it
151 2018-05-04T10:13:08  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: it's very immature and sketchy
152 2018-05-04T10:13:32  <wumpus> yes but I only need a very basic node framework for this, the less overhead the better
153 2018-05-04T10:13:39  <jonasschnelli> also... you probably need a manual -lpthread for linking... :)
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157 2018-05-04T10:17:30  <jonasschnelli> yes... give it a try
158 2018-05-04T10:17:32  <wumpus> I first have to make it find my customized libevent
159 2018-05-04T10:18:10  <wumpus> hopefully PKG_CONFIG_PATH does just work :)
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162 2018-05-04T10:23:56  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: a shame, looks like the libbtc libevent2 check doesn't use pkgconfig to check where the library is
163 2018-05-04T10:24:33  <wumpus> I'll see if I can add that or maybe I'll just whack in CPPFLAGS=... for now
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172 2018-05-04T10:49:23  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: Good point. happy if you open a PR at github.com/libbtc/libbtc ;)
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175 2018-05-04T10:56:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mocacinno opened pull request #13166: Master (0.14...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13166
176 2018-05-04T10:57:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #13166: Master (0.14...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13166
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180 2018-05-04T11:10:33  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: also need to pass in -fPIC I suposse /usr/bin/ld: bitcoincore_indexd-btcnode.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `.rodata.str1.1' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
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213 2018-05-04T11:58:05  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: where does it get the node configuration (where to connect to) from?
214 2018-05-04T11:58:32  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: btcnode.cpp
215 2018-05-04T11:58:42  <jonasschnelli> search after 127.0.0,1
216 2018-05-04T11:58:59  <wumpus> ok I see,t hanks
217 2018-05-04T12:00:17  <wumpus> so simply 127.0.0.1:8333, but it wasn't connecting because my node was not listening
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220 2018-05-04T12:05:19  <wumpus> it doesn't start requesting blocks :/
221 2018-05-04T12:06:51  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: is there anything I need to do to make it start pulling blocks? https://0bin.net/paste/TJj0okkQanP2H++H#VgX0GogDES9a0RXqsvgyKYJC5Ed0Y-4RFQwgO2aKQYe is my output, seems to be idling
222 2018-05-04T12:08:34  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: What do you do in handshake_done()?
223 2018-05-04T12:08:42  <jonasschnelli> This is where you should ask for blocks
224 2018-05-04T12:08:55  <jonasschnelli> the current bitcoincore-indexd does sync headers first
225 2018-05-04T12:09:10  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: haven't changed the function
226 2018-05-04T12:10:15  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: it looks like it doesn request headers then
227 2018-05-04T12:10:29  <jonasschnelli> maybe set a breakpoint in void handshake_done(struct btc_node_ *node)
228 2018-05-04T12:10:44  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: wait..
229 2018-05-04T12:10:53  <jonasschnelli> your client-peer is sending a getheaders()
230 2018-05-04T12:11:02  <jonasschnelli> -()
231 2018-05-04T12:11:15  <jonasschnelli> but seems like your remote node does not answer
232 2018-05-04T12:11:19  <wumpus> will do - the node syncing from is not up to date with the chain, could that be a problem?
233 2018-05-04T12:11:25  <jonasschnelli> Are they on the same network? Mainnet/etc.?
234 2018-05-04T12:11:31  <wumpus> yes both on mainnet
235 2018-05-04T12:11:50  <wumpus> I'll look into it
236 2018-05-04T12:12:01  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: eventually... the client node will ask for headers from genesis... could be that your remote node is refusing that during IBD
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240 2018-05-04T12:16:16  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: indeed - seems like the old "Ignoring getheaders from peer=%d because node is in initial block download" plague again, adding whitelist=127.0.0.1 solved it
241 2018-05-04T12:16:47  <wumpus> it's rolling
242 2018-05-04T12:17:09  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: why did you use a custom built libevent? Did you modify the sources for performance measuring?
243 2018-05-04T12:18:18  <wumpus> I want to have a newer one that is installed on this version of ubuntu by default, I've also made some http changes to make it work with UNIX domain sockets, though that part isn't necessary here it's the only version of libevent I have installed
244 2018-05-04T12:18:54  <wumpus> (and I always install manuall-compiled things into /opt/<libname>, not in /usr)
245 2018-05-04T12:19:09  <jonasschnelli> I see
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254 2018-05-04T12:31:31  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: looks like it doesn't hit the fast path, I suppose your indexer doesn't request MSG_WITNESS_BLOCK?
255 2018-05-04T12:32:34  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: the indexer does send a inv with blockhashes... shouldn't this result in a MSG_WITNESS_BLOCK?
256 2018-05-04T12:34:44  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: ser_u32(inv_msg_cstr, 2);   <- that's MSG_BLOCK, not MSG_WITNESS_BLOCK
257 2018-05-04T12:35:13  <wumpus> needs 1 << 30 ORed in
258 2018-05-04T12:37:58  <jonasschnelli> Right. Yes. I guess just changing to MSG_BLOCK | MSG_WITNESS_FLAG should do the job.
259 2018-05-04T12:38:29  <wumpus> yes
260 2018-05-04T12:38:58  <wumpus> eh no, those constants are not defined anywhere
261 2018-05-04T12:39:58  <wumpus> would be a good idea though
262 2018-05-04T12:42:57  <jonasschnelli> yes
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265 2018-05-04T12:50:27  <wumpus> ok, hitting the fast path now on the server side, I commented out the transaction processing code on the client side - and make it quit when current block height is 473600 (arbitrary)... just a matter of waiting now
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270 2018-05-04T12:55:18  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: I would probably start from 450000 up to 500000 for performance tests.
271 2018-05-04T12:56:19  <wumpus> yes maybe - I don't have any more recennt blocks on this node, so this will have to do for now
272 2018-05-04T12:58:15  <wumpus> including the small blocks in the beginning is not very useful, probably, but should not take a lot of time
273 2018-05-04T12:59:17  <jonasschnelli> Indeed.
274 2018-05-04T13:00:02  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: for performance benchmarks, what do you think in requesting 450k-500k, measure time, loop this for 1000 and calculate avg/med?
275 2018-05-04T13:00:16  <jonasschnelli> 450-500k should take seconds
276 2018-05-04T13:01:41  <wumpus> requesting the same blocks over again will make them end up in the disk cache, though it's easy to average out especially when you disregard the first run
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309 2018-05-04T14:23:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/7eb7076f7007...627c3762ce5d
310 2018-05-04T14:23:50  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a508091 fanquake: doc: Mention good first issue list in CONTRIBUTING.md
311 2018-05-04T14:23:50  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 627c376 MarcoFalke: Merge #13165: doc: Mention good first issue list in CONTRIBUTING.md...
312 2018-05-04T14:24:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #13165: doc: Mention good first issue list in CONTRIBUTING.md (master...good-first-issue) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13165
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323 2018-05-04T15:37:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] martinus opened pull request #13167: Refactoring: optimize SelectCoinsBnB (master...optimize-SelectCoinsBnB) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13167
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334 2018-05-04T16:28:12  <sdaftuar> BlueMatt: i think there might be another edge case bug in ABC that we didn't talk about yet
335 2018-05-04T16:28:31  <BlueMatt> oh? ugh
336 2018-05-04T16:28:40  <sdaftuar> it seems like it might be possible for pruning to run in between cs_main lock acquisitions?
337 2018-05-04T16:28:58  <sdaftuar> and it's FindMostWorkChain's job to deal with that
338 2018-05-04T16:29:23  <sdaftuar> probably it couldn't really happen in any "normal" scenario
339 2018-05-04T16:31:24  <sdaftuar> anyway i think this may not be so different than other modes where pruning might fail, so i don't know that we should worry about it, except maybe add some comments to remind ourselves
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346 2018-05-04T16:47:28  <ramzo> hello
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358 2018-05-04T17:07:59  <ken2812221> Is there a way to update-alternatives in gitian builder? I'm trying to bump my gitian build to 18.04, but stuck at Windows update-alternatives to posix version.
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360 2018-05-04T17:09:42  <wumpus> ken2812221: yes, you can sudo afaik
361 2018-05-04T17:10:01  <ken2812221> no, sudo or su does not work.
362 2018-05-04T17:13:21  <wumpus> I think it's possible to enable that in the descriptor
363 2018-05-04T17:14:17  <ken2812221> Ok, I would find it, thanks.
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365 2018-05-04T17:17:34  <wumpus> gbuild has to be run with --alow-sudo in that case, too
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368 2018-05-04T17:19:50  <ken2812221> Ok. I'm trying.
369 2018-05-04T17:21:38  <ken2812221> Thanks, it does work!!
370 2018-05-04T17:33:23  <wumpus> good!
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382 2018-05-04T18:13:25  <ken2812221> Gitian-build fails due to no 'rename' program. it's a pain after it has been compiled for a long time.
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384 2018-05-04T18:18:19  <MarcoFalke> How hard would it be to transcribe the gitian-descriptors into a docker file?
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386 2018-05-04T18:20:26  <ken2812221> I'm not using docker, I'm using lxc.
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390 2018-05-04T18:27:45  <ken2812221> I've created a PR to gitian-builder, so we can use lxc 3.0.0 to do gitian-build
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404 2018-05-04T19:04:32  <wumpus> ken2812221: great!
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412 2018-05-04T20:03:35  <TheCharlatan> Are there existing benchmarking results for the bench tests available between armv7 and armv8 ?
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417 2018-05-04T20:18:45  <skeees> sdaftuar: i'm unable to reproduce that genesis block failure - what are you doing to achieve?
418 2018-05-04T20:19:24  <sdaftuar> while src/test/test_bitcoin -t validation_block_tests; do :; done
419 2018-05-04T20:19:42  <sdaftuar> that was with a patch to try to get rid of that other error (i got rid of the BOOST_CHECK() call at line 160)
420 2018-05-04T20:20:10  <skeees> hah - yeah i've been doing that a bunch too - no dice. maybe platform specific
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424 2018-05-04T20:24:43  <sdaftuar> oh i see what you're saying about the genesis block -- yes that does seem like a test bug
425 2018-05-04T20:25:30  <sdaftuar> and i guess the callbacks are all happening in a single thread anyway, so the BOOST_CHECK calls there should be safe
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428 2018-05-04T20:28:21  <skeees> even though unable to reproduce - i've updated pr with something that i *think* will fix the error you're seeing related to that
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436 2018-05-04T20:42:24  <sdaftuar> skeees: i don't know how the threading works in the boost testing framework, but i did notice that you don't acquire cs_main before accessing chainActive.Tip() when you construct the TestSubscriber()
437 2018-05-04T20:42:41  <sdaftuar> is it possible that there's a race where you're able to pull the value of the tip before the callback fires (very rarely?)
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441 2018-05-04T20:44:57  <skeees> hmmm you still seeing this issue even after 04176fc?
442 2018-05-04T20:45:21  <skeees> didn't acquire because I assumed I'd be the only thread running in the test framework at that point
443 2018-05-04T20:45:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/627c3762ce5d...f82e1c948212
444 2018-05-04T20:45:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c3f34d0 practicalswift: Make it clear which functions that are intended to be translation unit local...
445 2018-05-04T20:45:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f82e1c9 MarcoFalke: Merge #13163: Make it clear which functions that are intended to be translation unit local...
446 2018-05-04T20:45:51  <sdaftuar> i was still trying to reproduce, haven't taken your fix yet
447 2018-05-04T20:46:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #13163: Make it clear which functions that are intended to be translation unit local (master...internal-linkage) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13163
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450 2018-05-04T20:50:23  <sdaftuar> hmm that hypothesis doesn't seem to be panning out (i tried adding a sleep before the BlockConnected callbacks after we connect the genesis block, to see if that would trigger it -- no dice)
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453 2018-05-04T20:59:27  <sdaftuar> skeees: oh, could it just be an issue of the scheduler getting to run the genesis block BlockConnected callbacks after the TestSubscriber is created?  i don't know what the callback semantics are--
454 2018-05-04T20:59:58  <sdaftuar> do we callback only the callbacks that were subscribed at the time the event was generated, or do we callback everyone who is subscribed at the time the callback is actually fired off by the scheduler?
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456 2018-05-04T21:00:31  <skeees> i think it could be that
457 2018-05-04T21:00:44  <sdaftuar> i can't figure out where to stick a sleep to verify that this is the issue...
458 2018-05-04T21:00:50  <skeees> its not well defined right now because we push a callback to the scheduler that invokes the signal
459 2018-05-04T21:01:05  <skeees> so you could subscribe after you push that callback but before signal is invoked i think
460 2018-05-04T21:01:15  <sdaftuar> that's pretty weird behavior imo
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462 2018-05-04T21:01:34  <sdaftuar> but sort of exactly why we need these tests!
463 2018-05-04T21:01:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jamesob opened pull request #13168: Thread names in logs and deadlock debug tools (take 2) (master...2018-05-threadnames-take-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13168
464 2018-05-04T21:02:24  <skeees> yeah - its strange - that behavior in particular starts to become a problem if you ever get into a state where you have a lot of dynamic subscription / unsubscription (e.g. may actually pose some challenges getting rid of mempool signals)
465 2018-05-04T21:02:43  <skeees> but in current use case where you just subscribe on startup and those remain fixed - its not a huge deal
466 2018-05-04T21:02:59  <sdaftuar> right
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470 2018-05-04T21:08:09  <sdaftuar> aha! i think that's it
471 2018-05-04T21:08:16  <sdaftuar> i managed to reproduce it with a sleep added to the scheduler
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474 2018-05-04T21:11:03  <sdaftuar> so we should decide if we want to stick with that behavior or not...  seems kind of shitty to me.  perhaps registering with the validationinterface should require the queue to be drained first?
475 2018-05-04T21:11:08  <sdaftuar> not sure if that idea works
476 2018-05-04T21:11:41  <sdaftuar> BlueMatt: ^^^
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478 2018-05-04T21:14:35  <skeees> i think that's a separate pr - i'll put something together
479 2018-05-04T21:14:50  <skeees> for this one - i think it'll suffice to change some of the subscription ordering
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