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 18 2018-07-16T01:54:26  <gmaxwell> morcos: Is #13652 something we might want to backport for 0.16.2 once its in master?
 19 2018-07-16T01:54:28  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13652 | rpc: Fix that CWallet::AbandonTransaction would leave the grandchildren, etc. active by Empact · Pull Request #13652 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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 32 2018-07-16T03:22:37  <grafcaps> ]/5
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 34 2018-07-16T03:28:01  <sipa> agree
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 53 2018-07-16T06:23:37  <wumpus> harding: no, I don't think it's a good idea to add RISC-V tarballs for 0.17, maybe 0.18, there's the compiler issue with ubuntu 18.04's risc-v cross gcc that makes me scared
 54 2018-07-16T06:24:08  <wumpus> it appears to be only one test in test_bitcoin failing but if inlining is unreliable who knows what other things could go wrong
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 56 2018-07-16T06:24:33  <wumpus> as this is solved with newer gcc, we need a newer gcc, but that's not feasible with the current gitian toolchain setup
 57 2018-07-16T06:24:52  <wumpus> (unless ubuntu upgrades their compiler but my feeling is that is unlikely)
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 59 2018-07-16T06:38:08  <wumpus> also maybe by then I have my own hifive unleashed board to test with instead of qemu
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 64 2018-07-16T07:28:53  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] LeandroRocha84 opened pull request #13674: Qt: Fix for bitcoin-qt becoming unresponsive during shutdown (issue #13217) (master...qt-shutdown-13217) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13674
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 81 2018-07-16T08:51:58  <harding> wumpus: ah, ok.  Thanks for the answer, and for working on it.  :-)
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105 2018-07-16T10:45:24  <fanquake> wumpus / sipa Would either of you be able to merge #13171 when you're around next?
106 2018-07-16T10:45:25  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13171 | Change gitian-descriptors to use bionic instead by ken2812221 · Pull Request #13171 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
107 2018-07-16T10:49:31  <wumpus> sure
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109 2018-07-16T10:50:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c0f1569557ec...19d8ca5cc1d1
110 2018-07-16T10:50:52  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c1afe32 Chun Kuan Lee: Change gitian-descriptors to use bionic instead
111 2018-07-16T10:50:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 19d8ca5 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #13171: Change gitian-descriptors to use bionic instead...
112 2018-07-16T10:51:03  <fanquake> wumpus thanks
113 2018-07-16T10:51:37  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #13171: Change gitian-descriptors to use bionic instead (master...gitian) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13171
114 2018-07-16T10:53:06  <fanquake> wumpus #13644 Also close to ready, if you want to take a look. After that there should only be 13652 left for 0.16.2
115 2018-07-16T10:53:08  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13644 | 0.16: Remaining backports for 0.16.2 by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #13644 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
116 2018-07-16T10:54:25  <fanquake> I might add the to the high priority list, as I think we want to get 0.16.2 out before 0.17 rc, or is that not a concern?
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119 2018-07-16T11:01:05  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #13643: Switch to NSIS 3.03 to avoid DLL hijacking (master...nsis-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13643
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121 2018-07-16T11:08:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/19d8ca5cc1d1...171b03de065d
122 2018-07-16T11:08:29  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c64cc1b Mason Simon: scripted-diff: Fix references to share/rpcuser (now share/rpcauth)...
123 2018-07-16T11:08:30  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 171b03d MarcoFalke: Merge #13664: Trivial: fix references to share/rpcuser (now share/rpcauth)...
124 2018-07-16T11:09:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #13664: Trivial: fix references to share/rpcuser (now share/rpcauth) (master...update-rpcuser-references) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13664
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131 2018-07-16T11:42:37  <wumpus> fanquake: I agree, though there's still some time after the feature freeze until rc1
132 2018-07-16T11:46:23  <fanquake> wumpus np
133 2018-07-16T11:46:33  <fanquake> #13298 also looks ready.
134 2018-07-16T11:46:36  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13298 | Net: Bucketing INV delays (1 bucket) for incoming connections to hide tx time by naumenkogs · Pull Request #13298 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
135 2018-07-16T11:46:45  <MarcoFalke> I think we can get #13644 in and do an rc1
136 2018-07-16T11:46:48  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13644 | 0.16: Remaining backports for 0.16.2 by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #13644 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
137 2018-07-16T11:47:08  <MarcoFalke> release notes and the potential missing wallet backport can be done later
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142 2018-07-16T11:56:33  <fanquake> MarcoFalke Sounds good. You managed to pull quite a few more backports out of master!
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145 2018-07-16T12:01:49  <MarcoFalke> heh, yeah. Most of them are just test fixups, and some people complained that the tests were broken on .16
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165 2018-07-16T12:50:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #13644: 0.16: Remaining backports for 0.16.2 (0.16...Mf1804-16Backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13644
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168 2018-07-16T12:53:56  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/171b03de065d...17943f77bda2
169 2018-07-16T12:53:56  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 89e70f9 Ben Woosley: Fix that CWallet::AbandonTransaction would only traverse one level...
170 2018-07-16T12:53:57  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 17943f7 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #13652: rpc: Fix that CWallet::AbandonTransaction would leave the grandchildren, etc. active...
171 2018-07-16T12:54:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #13652: rpc: Fix that CWallet::AbandonTransaction would leave the grandchildren, etc. active (master...fix-abandon-transaction) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13652
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183 2018-07-16T13:18:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #13676: Explain that mempool memory is added to -dbcache during IBD (master...2018/07/dbcache-ibd-mempool) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13676
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190 2018-07-16T13:38:54  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.16: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/20461fc272516253ea077c5a80e4f600ce5c3542
191 2018-07-16T13:38:54  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.16 20461fc Ben Woosley: Fix that CWallet::AbandonTransaction would only traverse one level...
192 2018-07-16T13:42:49  <wumpus> going to tag 0.16.2rc1 in a bit
193 2018-07-16T13:51:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.16: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/63daa10015e3afad7d6560ec6bea689af4f8b471
194 2018-07-16T13:51:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.16 63daa10 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Clean out release notes for 0.16.2
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197 2018-07-16T13:57:19  <wumpus>  * [new tag]                                                                           v0.16.2rc1 -> v0.16.2rc1
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215 2018-07-16T14:56:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #13677: Remind developers that disablewallet=1 should always work (master...2018/07/disable-wallet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13677
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252 2018-07-16T16:48:19  <cfields> wumpus: looks like we missed the version bump :(
253 2018-07-16T16:49:36  <sipa> for?
254 2018-07-16T16:49:50  <cfields> 0.16.2
255 2018-07-16T16:54:25  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theuni opened pull request #13678: build: Bump version to 0.16.2 (0.16...0.16bump) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13678
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266 2018-07-16T17:34:42  <gmaxwell> kallewoof: 12257 looks close to me, but you have some nits outstanding.
267 2018-07-16T17:39:14  <sipa> github down :(
268 2018-07-16T17:39:49  <cfields> yep
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270 2018-07-16T17:41:23  <instagibbs> RIP
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273 2018-07-16T17:53:34  <SopaXorzTaker> This is a question about core dev, feel free to kick me if offtopic: when is bitcoin moving away from GitHub?
274 2018-07-16T17:54:46  <sipa> that's a pretty loaded question
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276 2018-07-16T17:58:16  <provoostenator> SopaXorzTaker: there's some discussion here #13411
277 2018-07-16T17:58:19  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13411 | Moving to self-hosted issue and patch management · Issue #13411 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHubAsset 1Asset 1
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279 2018-07-16T18:01:42  <TD-Linux> it's back up but "frozen"
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282 2018-07-16T18:19:55  <sipa> TD-Linux: how so?
283 2018-07-16T18:20:06  <TD-Linux> read only, can't comment or merge prs
284 2018-07-16T18:20:11  <sipa> oh.
285 2018-07-16T18:20:16  <sipa> that explains :(
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314 2018-07-16T20:26:53  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa closed pull request #13298: Net: Bucketing INV delays (1 bucket) for incoming connections to hide tx time (master...delay_per_net_group) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13298
315 2018-07-16T20:27:02  <gmaxwell> \O/
316 2018-07-16T20:27:28  <sipa> We probably want a short release note about that
317 2018-07-16T20:28:14  <gmaxwell> It would be good if it were drafted in a way so as to not encourage hypochondriacs.
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323 2018-07-16T20:52:30  <gmaxwell> achow101: 13666 tests fail now
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325 2018-07-16T20:52:37  <gmaxwell> (says travis)
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330 2018-07-16T21:04:53  <achow101> gmaxwell: I know. windows build is failing but I have no idea why
331 2018-07-16T21:05:35  <gmaxwell> Must be a diabolical plan on the part of github's new owners to promote Linux.
332 2018-07-16T21:09:38  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #13679: Initialize m_next_send_inv_to_incoming (master...201807_init_atomic) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13679
333 2018-07-16T21:15:47  <promag> git remote update hangs?
334 2018-07-16T21:16:48  <promag> nm..
335 2018-07-16T21:22:32  <promag> Why travis didn't run for #13667?
336 2018-07-16T21:22:34  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13667 | wallet: Fix backupwallet for multiwallets by domob1812 · Pull Request #13667 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
337 2018-07-16T21:27:10  <achow101> promag: github had some problems earlier today so some travis builds may not have been triggered due to that
338 2018-07-16T21:28:12  <promag> ty
339 2018-07-16T21:33:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f8d470e24606...0568dcd67d34
340 2018-07-16T21:33:19  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 347b4ff Pieter Wuille: Initialize m_next_send_inv_to_incoming
341 2018-07-16T21:33:19  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0568dcd MarcoFalke: Merge #13679: Initialize m_next_send_inv_to_incoming...
342 2018-07-16T21:34:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #13679: Initialize m_next_send_inv_to_incoming (master...201807_init_atomic) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13679
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356 2018-07-16T22:39:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jamesob opened pull request #13680: [doc] Remove outdated comment about miner ignoring CPFP (master...2018-07-cpfp-doc-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13680
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360 2018-07-16T22:55:28  <gmaxwell> achow101: Murch: In coinselection / effective rate discussion, has there been any talk about handing the effective value of unconfirmed coins?  In particular, I think we should lower the effective value of unconfirmed coins whos package feerate is below our target feerate by the amount needed to bump that package to our target feerate. (and add that additional fee to our txn)
361 2018-07-16T22:55:57  <gmaxwell> though this is probably complicated by sibling outputs and other things I'm not thinking of.
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363 2018-07-16T22:58:10  <achow101> gmaxwell: no, we haven't considered unconfirmed coins at all
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370 2018-07-16T23:37:35  <Murch> gmaxwell: I've been thinking a bit about that, but especially when you have multiple transaction outputs from a single transaction or from interdependent transactions the effective value suddenly becomes conditional on the inclusion of other transactions.
371 2018-07-16T23:39:18  <Murch> It can get pretty icky.
372 2018-07-16T23:40:40  <Murch> *transaction outputs
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374 2018-07-16T23:41:58  <Murch> But yeah, just auto-cpfp it to the current level should be fine. Don't add extra fee if the original fee was higher anyway.
375 2018-07-16T23:48:00  <phantomcircuit> there's sort of an inherent privacy issue with actually doing optimal coin selection
376 2018-07-16T23:48:23  <phantomcircuit> the best information for how large we want the outputs available to spend to be is how large the outputs we've made in the past are
377 2018-07-16T23:48:41  <phantomcircuit> but doing that is almost certain to be a privacy leak
378 2018-07-16T23:49:57  <Murch> Yeah, actually you'd want them to be larger than that by the amount of fees you have to pay to create such outputs whereas the fees are unpredictable and the outputs you're creating change with the exchange rate.
379 2018-07-16T23:50:09  <Murch> Always creating change in the s
380 2018-07-16T23:50:23  <Murch> same size as the recipient amount was something I simulated and it performed rather poorly.
381 2018-07-16T23:50:29  <sipa> phantomcircuit: some of the coin selection strategies take that into account by aiming for change in the same order of magnitude as the payment
382 2018-07-16T23:51:22  <Murch> Avoiding change altogether is the best, and then having some sort of spread of useful sizes would actually be best.
383 2018-07-16T23:51:31  <Murch> *second
384 2018-07-16T23:52:18  <Murch> The thing is that we just don't know what size we'll need, because we neither know the future fee rate, nor the future exchange rate, nor the future payments we'll be making (generally)
385 2018-07-16T23:54:46  <Murch> I mean, it may work when you have a large amount of traffic and the price doesn't move too much over the window of time in which you cycle through your unspent pool. But then you're generally already privacy challenged ;)