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 272018-08-20T01:33:49  <luke-jr> :|
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 542018-08-20T05:08:52  <luke-jr> hmm, so I got it to build finally, but the windows yml produces mismatches of the .tar.gz and .exe installers (the zips match)
 552018-08-20T05:09:05  <luke-jr> has anyone published these files for comparison?
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 702018-08-20T05:59:39  <wumpus> luke-jr: if you made a base image by hand, though, can you make sure you have the correct version of NSIS installed? that's the primary cause of mismatches in the installer, I'd say
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 772018-08-20T06:49:26  <luke-jr> wumpus: nsis packages seem to match
 782018-08-20T07:15:34  <wumpus> luke-jr: https://github.com/laanwj/bitcoin/releases/tag/v0.17.0rc1
 792018-08-20T07:15:47  <wumpus> I've uploaded only the windows ones you mentioned, if you need any others let me know
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1182018-08-20T09:22:20  <mess110> hi, can I get a few reviews for https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13248 please?
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1282018-08-20T11:09:12  <wumpus> #13248
1292018-08-20T11:09:14  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13248 | [gui] Make proxy icon from statusbar clickable by mess110 · Pull Request #13248 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1302018-08-20T11:14:15  <wumpus> looks like it has enough utACKs for a change like this, I'll give it a quick try
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1422018-08-20T12:53:45  <Zenton> if I store a wallet with a strong passphrase and save that wallet dat file in an usb memory, is that security enough or do you recommend me to also encrypt all the usb memory?
1432018-08-20T13:04:10  <wumpus> Zenton: better ask in #bitcoin, this is a developer channel, you'd probably want to mention your perceived threat model for 'secure enough' as well
1442018-08-20T13:07:00  <Zenton> thanks wumpus
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1882018-08-20T17:00:57  <provoostenator> Is it a new "feature" that you can't interrupt (ctrl + c, or even ctrl + z) gitian-build.py? I forgot to run it inside a screen :-)
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1902018-08-20T17:05:34  <arubi> oh man and I on tmux, and I hit ctrl+c on the gitian pane instead of on the `tail -f build.log` one and thought some divine intervention happened that didn't kill the build
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1952018-08-20T17:23:45  <cfields> wumpus: I didn't sign rc1 because I wasn't sure if the determinism issue was relevant. Now that we've tracked it down and it's Linux-only, would you like me to sign for rc1, or just skip and do an rc2?
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2212018-08-20T19:31:46  <kevink> If this is true it looks like someone found a way to increase the blocksize via a soft-fork. It sounds very dangerous, I thought the Core developers might want to know https://twitter.com/StopAndDecrypt/status/1031619644627582976
2222018-08-20T19:34:38  <sipa> kevink: of course softforks to increase capacity are possible
2232018-08-20T19:34:56  <sipa> a softfork requires consensus to deploy, though
2242018-08-20T19:35:55  <sipa> and potential resource increases don't affect those who do not choose to follow them
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2262018-08-20T19:42:20  <kevink> I asked Luke before and he said further blocksize increases would require a hard-fork. Thats why I thought it was a big deal. I guess not. 😂
2272018-08-20T19:43:01  <sipa> this is just research
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2292018-08-20T19:43:22  <sipa> research about upgrade mechanisms is obviously a good thing
2302018-08-20T19:44:57  <kevink> Are they? You don't think this is a potential attack vector?
2312018-08-20T19:45:08  <sipa> no
2322018-08-20T19:45:27  <sipa> if it is an attack vector, it should be fixed
2332018-08-20T19:45:34  <sipa> so far i haven't seen anything to suggest that it is
2342018-08-20T19:46:08  <gmaxwell> It's a waste of everyones time to bother speculating about things that the people suggesting them won't disclose.
2352018-08-20T19:46:34  <kevink> Fair enough, we can talk about it after the presentation. ;)
2362018-08-20T19:46:35  <gmaxwell> as usual, everyone in that discussion is probably misunderstanding each other.
2372018-08-20T19:46:50  <gmaxwell> (as usual in the sense that it's twitter)
2382018-08-20T19:50:28  <StopAndDecrypt> i hold my conclusions until its presented
2392018-08-20T19:51:44  <sipa> thanks
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