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182 2018-09-23T20:26:01  <aj> achow101: the latest reports mention cpplint; and yeah. could be nice to have them when new PRs are filed, but spacing issues in ones that have been around for months and already have acks...
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206 2018-09-23T22:30:39  <gmaxwell> While constructing a test case for the inflation bug, my first attempt did nothing because of making exactly this kind of mistake: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14300/commits/ba923e32a0c03fcbb6ffe317580fd1d04669ce71
207 2018-09-23T22:31:00  <gmaxwell> Is there any way to make it so that this sort of error can't happen?
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210 2018-09-23T22:33:55  <gmaxwell> Who are our resident python experts, in any case?
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213 2018-09-23T22:48:02  <luke-jr> gmaxwell: there is a way, but it might be a pain
214 2018-09-23T22:48:37  <luke-jr> I'm not sure this is the best way, but we could have a __setattr__ that refuses to add after some initialisation point
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217 2018-09-23T23:01:14  <harding> I'm not a python expert and I don't have any general suggestions, but it does seem to be that a method named "rehash" could probably be extended to fail if the new hash is the same as the old hash.
218 2018-09-23T23:01:57  <gmaxwell> I'm not sure if anyone else has had the same problem, but since I just encoutnered it and there appears to be a standing one there, it might be worth fixing.
219 2018-09-23T23:02:20  <gmaxwell> maybe we need to get forrestv back into bitcoin, guy was a wizard with overly complex python things. :P
220 2018-09-23T23:03:10  <gmaxwell> We should also do more work to make sure the tests work correctly... but I think that is high effort enough that it shouldn't be the only mechenism to avoid that kind of screwup.
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222 2018-09-23T23:06:13  <promag> https://docs.python.org/3/reference/datamodel.html#slots
223 2018-09-23T23:08:14  <luke-jr> I've confirmed the most recent email I received from the announcement email list, was the announcement for 0.16.1
224 2018-09-23T23:08:29  <luke-jr> so either nobody sent one since then, or it's broken, or it's forgetting subscribers :/
225 2018-09-23T23:08:48  <gmaxwell> something is broken then, because I had wladimir confirm the 0.16.3 announcement went there.
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227 2018-09-23T23:09:04  <luke-jr> someone on Twitter did mention they were unable to subscribe :/
228 2018-09-23T23:09:17  <gmaxwell> I have no idea how that lists works or who set it up.
229 2018-09-23T23:09:23  <luke-jr> btcdrak IIRC
230 2018-09-23T23:09:29  <luke-jr> something called "sendy"
231 2018-09-23T23:09:34  <gmaxwell> (well I would have guessed...)
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235 2018-09-23T23:20:06  <harding> Investigating Sendy, it's apparently proprietary list management software that you run on your own server and connect to Amazon's MTA.  It seems like the list management service is operational but the MTA is not.
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244 2018-09-23T23:49:42  <achow101> gmaxwell: something like https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3603502/prevent-creating-new-attributes-outside-init
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247 2018-09-23T23:55:38  <luke-jr> harding: hmm, someone else on Twitter just said they did get the announce
248 2018-09-23T23:55:59  <luke-jr> so whatever it is, seems to be partly working
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250 2018-09-23T23:59:12  <gmaxwell> luke-jr: perhaps next time you see a problem you raise it as a concern instead of being vaguely insulting about it on twitter.  I'd prefer to not get called incompetent by cobra again, especially over something where there isn't anything I could improve. :)