12018-09-24T00:00:14 <luke-jr> gmaxwell: I did raise it as a concern here over a day earlier..
22018-09-24T00:01:02 <luke-jr> not sure why he's calling you incompetent; as you say, you had nothing to do with it O.o
32018-09-24T00:01:11 <gmaxwell> 18:58 < achow101> luke-jr: there was an announcement for it
42018-09-24T00:02:41 <gmaxwell> I dunno I get called incompetent because of things random people I've never heard of before on twitter says too. People can't grok decenteralization, so apparently every participant is the bitcoin project is jointly and severally responsible for everything every supporter says. or something. :P
52018-09-24T00:03:07 <luke-jr> XD
62018-09-24T00:03:54 <gmaxwell> though it sucks more when its the guy controlling bitcoin.org doing it.
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92018-09-24T00:20:25 <harding> luke-jr: I've tried several times and even screwed around with the form parameters and HTTP headers, and I can't get it to send me a sign-up email or emit any debugging information, so I'm pretty sure the software is some kind of broke or another. I'll email btcdrak to see if there's something simple he can kick if he's around.
102018-09-24T00:20:43 <luke-jr> :/
112018-09-24T00:23:01 <harding> kanzure: is the bitcoin-dev mailing list being migrrated to another host? If so, do you think it'd also be able to support an -announce list that only supported sending from the mailman moderator interface?
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152018-09-24T00:30:28 <Emcy> all devs who were as ever incredibly responsive with handling the recent bug and getting a patch out quickly, thank you guys. Your effort is apprecieted by me and lots of others very much, keep on trucking
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182018-09-24T00:42:33 <promag> Emcy: +1
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222018-09-24T00:50:14 <kanzure> mailing list drtails are still in flux, testing some new options soon
232018-09-24T00:52:26 <kanzure> someone was unabale to subscribe to -dev the other day for the same reason nobody was able to approve emails in the mod queue, has since been resolved by unspecified warren action
242018-09-24T00:53:00 <kanzure> i dunno details about existing -announce
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262018-09-24T00:57:58 <harding> kanzure: I don't know anything myself except what I can observe from the public site, but if it's not being maintained by btcdrak, it may need to be migrated. I sent him an email; I'll let you know if it's in need of a new host in case that would dovetail with the -dev list stuff. Alternatively, it could probably be set up with whatever service delivers the weekly optech newsletters.
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282018-09-24T01:26:47 <jarthur> We don't support Python 2 for the functional tests, right?
292018-09-24T01:29:46 <sipa> not anymore
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472018-09-24T03:01:16 <jarthur> gmaxwell: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14305 for better or worse, the only other mis-named attribute I could find was in the same functional test module. Included that in the fix, but avoided the one already covered in #14300.
482018-09-24T03:01:17 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14300 | test: Fix broken segwit test by practicalswift · Pull Request #14300 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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512018-09-24T03:18:00 <achow101> jarthur: nice!
522018-09-24T03:18:34 <jarthur> Travis will be broken until the other one is merged, but if needed, I can merge theirs into mine.
532018-09-24T03:22:05 <gmaxwell> jarthur: Freeking awesome.
542018-09-24T03:22:19 <gmaxwell> especially that it found another mistake.
552018-09-24T03:22:37 <achow101> jarthur: you can do the "built on top of pr" thing. so your change is based on that pr and can then be rebased once it is merged
562018-09-24T03:22:58 <achow101> it makes it easier to review if you do that so that the tests actually pass when people check it out for review
572018-09-24T03:23:41 <jarthur> achow101: as in re-base my branch on his, or is there a fancier way of doing that in the PR?
582018-09-24T03:24:00 <achow101> jarthur: just rebase your branch on his
592018-09-24T03:24:21 <jarthur> Cool, will do when I get back, gotta pick up some food.
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742018-09-24T04:14:41 <jarthur> achow101: done
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1152018-09-24T08:12:32 <kanzure> harding: optech newsletter is going to be something like tinyletter or mailchimp..
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1902018-09-24T13:56:22 <luke-jr> 0.14.3 and 0.15.2 have more than enough builds.. ETA for codesigns? (is this waiting on the conference, or something else?)
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1972018-09-24T14:14:00 <hebasto> How can I build bitcoin-qt with another qt version (not current 5.9.6)? configure --with-qt... switch?
1982018-09-24T14:14:39 <Chris_Stewart_5> Does anyone have this env setup? If so could you take a look at this: https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/jobs/426192401#L7321
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2012018-09-24T14:14:56 <Chris_Stewart_5> it's related to #14171
2022018-09-24T14:14:57 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14171 | travis: Run property based testing by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #14171 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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2182018-09-24T15:16:21 <jnewbery> optech newsletter uses mailchimp. Seems fine for a weekly newsletter, but I don't know if it's appropriate for a security announcements list.
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2202018-09-24T15:28:42 <harding> I'd personally prefer to just use mailman, especially if it's being used for the project's other mailing lists. Also the list does all release announcements, not just security announcements. I think maybe it'd be worth considering making the list slightly higher traffic (e.g. monthly emails) and with some unique content (e.g. not exactly the same announcements that get sent to -dev) to increase the chance of readers mentioning
2212018-09-24T15:28:42 <harding> delivery problems before we actually really need to send an announcement.
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2532018-09-24T17:58:25 <luke-jr> harding: higher traffic might result in fewer subscribers
2542018-09-24T17:58:38 <luke-jr> if it's using the same tech as another list, however, that should be enough
2552018-09-24T17:59:22 <luke-jr> side note: I also should set up a list for Knots announcements, but haven't found a good place to host it
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2712018-09-24T19:01:03 <instagibbs> only asking here since there's no final release yet: what's the expected behavior of chain-specific conf sections with pre-0.17 nodes?
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2732018-09-24T19:25:34 <earlz> I've repeatedly sent emails to a core dev about this, but the CVE should have the name David Jaenson on it, not mine. He discovered it, I merely reported it. I indicated that credit should go to him when initially reporting this to core devs. https://bitcoincore.org/en/2018/09/20/notice/
2742018-09-24T19:27:18 <sipa> luke-jr: ping ^
2752018-09-24T19:31:07 <sipa> earlz: oh, you mean the disclosure post on bitcoincore.org, not the CVE itself?
2762018-09-24T19:31:22 <sipa> i'll PR a fix if someone doesn't beat me to it (you can do it yourself too)
2772018-09-24T19:31:43 <earlz> yes
2782018-09-24T19:32:06 <earlz> I just want to make sure the proper person gets credit wherever it's published
2792018-09-24T19:32:23 <earlz> I assume the timeline isn't mentioned in the actual CVE
2802018-09-24T19:32:32 <sipa> of course; sorry for misreporting at the time - things were just a bit chaotic at the time
2812018-09-24T19:34:41 <earlz> understandable
2822018-09-24T19:36:32 <luke-jr> the actual CVE doesn't really have much in the way of info, it's just an id and links to other stuff
2832018-09-24T19:36:56 <luke-jr> sipa: while editing, it might make sense to give awemany credit for the initial discovery too
2842018-09-24T19:37:07 <sipa> oh yes, absolutely
2852018-09-24T19:37:26 <sipa> i can't do so right now, but here you can PR a change: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org
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2882018-09-24T19:41:40 <luke-jr> having trouble thinking of a good way to phrase this, since David didn't make the actual report XD
2892018-09-24T19:42:00 <luke-jr> maybe - 19:50 David Jaenson independently discovered the vulnerability, and his colleague earlz reported it to the Bitcoin Core security contact email.
2902018-09-24T19:42:01 <luke-jr> ?
2912018-09-24T19:42:30 <gmaxwell> you can also just use the passive voice
2922018-09-24T19:42:34 <earlz> I don't need a mention
2932018-09-24T19:42:39 <gmaxwell> 'discovered, and it was reported'
2942018-09-24T19:43:21 <earlz> David Jaenson independently discovered the vulnerability and it was reported to the Bitcoin Core security contact email
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2982018-09-24T19:48:10 <michagogo> 23:47:12 <sipa> create a 0.13.0 node, sync it to tip, and then upgrade to 0.17+
2992018-09-24T19:48:10 <michagogo> S×××× ×¨×§×ק×ש××? A××ת רק×ק×ש×× ×× W××××'×?
3002018-09-24T19:48:13 <michagogo> er
3012018-09-24T19:48:23 <michagogo> Still relevant? And, relevant on Windows
3022018-09-24T19:48:24 <michagogo> ?
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3042018-09-24T19:48:48 <sipa> michagogo: i believe provoostenator is on it
3052018-09-24T19:48:53 <michagogo> Okay, cool
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3092018-09-24T19:52:34 <luke-jr> https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org/pull/608
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3112018-09-24T19:59:21 <provoostenator> sipa michagogo: indeed I'm on it. Unfortunately I forgot that 0.13 needs a bigger dbcache, so it's a bit slower. At height 481850 now after 7.5 hours.
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3142018-09-24T20:03:22 <provoostenator> On the bright side, without segwit support, there's (slightly) fewer signatures to verify.
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3162018-09-24T20:15:40 <phantomcircuit> provoostenator, lol
3172018-09-24T20:21:16 <michagogo> haha
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3322018-09-24T21:24:15 <phantomcircuit> there's a cli tool that uses curses to search source for stuff
3332018-09-24T21:24:21 <phantomcircuit> i cant remember what it's called
3342018-09-24T21:24:38 <phantomcircuit> i seem to remember someone here pointing me towards it as better than grepping for things
3352018-09-24T21:25:31 <jamesob> https://github.com/jonathanklee/ngp ?
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3482018-09-24T22:08:36 <cfields> phantomcircuit: do you mean just 'git grep' ?
3492018-09-24T22:09:05 <cfields> it pipes to less if too large
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3512018-09-24T22:11:24 <aj> instagibbs: entries in configuration sections should be entirely ignored by pre-0.17 nodes (unless maybe #13112 has been backported to make unknown conf options an error)
3522018-09-24T22:11:29 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13112 | Throw an error for unknown args by achow101 · Pull Request #13112 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3532018-09-24T22:26:46 <phantomcircuit> cfields, no it's some ncurses code browser
3542018-09-24T22:27:12 <phantomcircuit> git grep is nice though
3552018-09-24T22:27:36 <phantomcircuit> parses the files so you can easily find declarations and stuff like that
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