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 26 2018-10-01T03:25:56  <wumpus> agree
 27 2018-10-01T03:26:32  <wumpus> and would be good to document why it's in the extended test, to prevent people from moving it back and forth all the time
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 80 2018-10-01T10:05:33  <wumpus> release notes merged, going to tag v0.17.0 final in a bit
 81 2018-10-01T10:06:36  <queip> what is the outlook for Bitcoin Core for iOs? Grim? I'm looking forkward to building on top of it, glad to help in testing (though no iOs coding skill myself)
 82 2018-10-01T10:07:03  <queip> abcore for android, wrapping bitcoin core, works fine
 83 2018-10-01T10:09:50  <wumpus> if it's even possible to compile stock C++ projects on iOS, someone could do it, but no one is working on it as far as I know
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 89 2018-10-01T10:49:56  <wumpus>  * [new tag]                                                                           v0.17.0 -> v0.17.0
 90 2018-10-01T10:50:22  <sdaftuar> \o/
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109 2018-10-01T12:35:32  <jonasschnelli> Core on iOS should not be overcomplicated... the toolchain we use for OSX is IMO also capable to compile for iOS armv7, etc.
110 2018-10-01T12:36:15  <jonasschnelli> AFAIK sjors is working on it: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11720
111 2018-10-01T12:36:19  <queip> jonasschnelli: I've seen you worked on that, what is the status now actually? to get basic cli
112 2018-10-01T12:36:23  <jonasschnelli> #12557
113 2018-10-01T12:36:25  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12557 | [WIP] 64 bit iOs device support by Sjors · Pull Request #12557 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
114 2018-10-01T12:36:34  <jonasschnelli> queip: no. I haven't really worked on it.
115 2018-10-01T12:36:56  <jonasschnelli> I once did some work for cURL to compile it on iOS... and some other iOS cross compile stuff.
116 2018-10-01T12:37:24  <queip> I've worked on gitian builds for mac, if that helps
117 2018-10-01T12:37:53  <queip> I wonder between helping bitcoin core to work on iOs [mostly testing], or giving up and libbitcoin or some spv
118 2018-10-01T12:37:56  <jonasschnelli> I think getting depends/ ready for iOS is the best thing you could go: #12557
119 2018-10-01T12:38:00  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12557 | [WIP] 64 bit iOs device support by Sjors · Pull Request #12557 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
120 2018-10-01T12:38:25  <jonasschnelli> I though fail to see concrete use cases why one would run Bitcoin Core on iOS.
121 2018-10-01T12:38:50  <queip> jonasschnelli: validate own money
122 2018-10-01T12:39:07  <jonasschnelli> yeah... but the battery!
123 2018-10-01T12:39:15  <queip> auto pause
124 2018-10-01T12:39:24  <queip> (anyway indeed system will enforce it a lot)
125 2018-10-01T12:39:25  <jonasschnelli> Yeah... maybe.
126 2018-10-01T12:40:04  <jonasschnelli> If you want to see that happen (I'd like to see that happen as well), maybe help 12557 by commenting, testing, etc.
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133 2018-10-01T13:39:22  <achow101> \o/ 0.17.0
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157 2018-10-01T16:13:35  <provoostenator> jonasschnelli queip: any help is welcome with that PR. Battery use depends on the application developer, e.g. if you only sync on wifi it shouldn't be too bad.
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164 2018-10-01T16:17:14  <provoostenator> Once we have BIP-158 filter support (no plans that I know of), an app could use that while on a mobile network / on battery, only doing full sync on wifi or when receiving a large amount of coins.
165 2018-10-01T16:18:22  <provoostenator> (I mean client side BIP-158 filter support, we do have a server side PR)
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168 2018-10-01T16:33:15  <luke-jr> provoostenator: could already do it with bloom stuff, albeit not privacy-safe
169 2018-10-01T16:34:56  <gmaxwell> it's important to keep in mind that BIP-158 is not private either, it basically has the level of non-privacy bip37 was claimed/intended to have but bip37 turned out a lot worse than intended for several reasons.
170 2018-10-01T16:43:44  <luke-jr> gmaxwell: even if you fetch blocks from different peers?
171 2018-10-01T16:45:38  <gmaxwell> luke-jr: even if.
172 2018-10-01T16:46:00  <luke-jr> how so?
173 2018-10-01T16:46:57  <gmaxwell> by listening for a while and correlating what you do send, and/or running multiple sybil peers, so you see most of them anyways.
174 2018-10-01T16:47:12  <gmaxwell> Generally any information leak becomes significant if you just wait a while
175 2018-10-01T16:47:30  <gmaxwell> also, by paying you dust the attacker can stimulate you to keep fetching blocks
176 2018-10-01T16:48:46  <gmaxwell> attacker doesn't even have to pay _you_ dust they can construct an address of their own that collides with yours in the filter, and just pay themselves.
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178 2018-10-01T16:51:54  <gmaxwell> er, scratch the doesn't have to dust you part, I forgot that the filter fiat-shamirs with the block hash.
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185 2018-10-01T17:35:58  <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, well and you can pull the bip 158 filters over tor links which are not correlated to each other
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187 2018-10-01T17:36:12  <phantomcircuit> but you'd have to do one filter per connection per peer which seems nasty
188 2018-10-01T17:36:25  <phantomcircuit> an have some random time delay
189 2018-10-01T17:36:33  <phantomcircuit> which vaguely defeats the purpose
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193 2018-10-01T17:40:49  <gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: pulling the filters themselves aren't the problem: clients always pull all of them.
194 2018-10-01T17:41:13  <gmaxwell> Plugging the blocks is.  and indeed, pulling one block per tor connction would go a long way towards improving things.
195 2018-10-01T17:41:27  <gmaxwell> but great care would be needed so that querying clients were actually indistinguishable.
196 2018-10-01T17:42:19  <luke-jr> too bad nodes probably can't just connect+getblock only, need at least a version msg?
197 2018-10-01T17:44:13  <phantomcircuit> should probably have a "standard" version message for that reason
198 2018-10-01T17:45:28  <gmaxwell> luke-jr: they do, and we'd want to keep that just because version msg may indicate things that change how stuff gets serialized.
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201 2018-10-01T17:48:23  <luke-jr> would be nice if it could be simplified so the client end is just send+recv
202 2018-10-01T17:48:49  <luke-jr> (and if the remote node can't handle it, just disconnects)
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205 2018-10-01T17:57:22  <phantomcircuit> luke-jr, then each message would need to encode that format it expected in response
206 2018-10-01T17:57:51  <luke-jr> well, the send could use a preformatted version message
207 2018-10-01T17:59:43  <phantomcircuit> im happy with #14335
208 2018-10-01T17:59:45  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14335 | net: refactor: cleanup ThreadSocketHandler by pstratem · Pull Request #14335 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
209 2018-10-01T17:59:53  <phantomcircuit> it's much simplified over the previous cleanup pr
210 2018-10-01T18:00:09  <phantomcircuit> everything is just a move into private methods, none of the logic should be changed at all
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215 2018-10-01T18:31:18  <rex4539> I'm currently running the extended tests for fun and I'm seeing multiple failures. I have never run the tests before. Is it known that multiple tests fail? Should I file a bug? And if so, one per failure or one that includes all of them?
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217 2018-10-01T18:39:54  <phantomcircuit> rex4539, which extended tests?
218 2018-10-01T18:40:16  <rex4539> The functional ones.
219 2018-10-01T18:40:29  <phantomcircuit> rex4539, what commit?
220 2018-10-01T18:40:50  <rex4539> Latest master.
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222 2018-10-01T18:42:17  <phantomcircuit> rex4539, those same tests are run by travis which is doing continuous integration
223 2018-10-01T18:42:39  <phantomcircuit> current master is https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/builds/435543663?utm_source=github_status&utm_medium=notification
224 2018-10-01T18:42:57  <phantomcircuit> did you build with weird configuration flags or on a weird system?
225 2018-10-01T18:43:54  <rex4539> I configured --with-gui=qt5 and I'm on macOS 10.13.6
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228 2018-10-01T18:46:31  <promag> rex4539: mind sharing those errors?
229 2018-10-01T18:50:21  <rex4539> The test suite just finished. The ones that failed are: wallet_backup.py, feature_dbcrash.py, feature_block.py, feature_segwit.py, mining_prioritisetransaction.py, feature_assumevalid.py, rpc_createmultisig.py, feature_versionbits_warning.py, feature_nulldummy.py, wallet_import_rescan.py, wallet_bumpfee.py, mempool_packages.py, feature_dersig.py, feature_cltv.py, feature_pruning.py
230 2018-10-01T18:55:01  <rex4539> Here's one example -> https://pastebin.com/7VUxBTue
231 2018-10-01T18:59:12  <promag> running just, for instance, test/functional/feature_nulldummy.py also fails?
232 2018-10-01T19:00:56  <rex4539> It passes. Also tried another one and passes too.
233 2018-10-01T19:03:21  <promag> I guess it's some issue in your system
234 2018-10-01T19:04:59  <promag> try test_runner with --jobs=1
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