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  82018-11-16T00:41:05  <phantomcircuit> sipa, sort of
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 282018-11-16T01:38:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kazcw opened pull request #14734: fix an undefined behavior in uint::SetHex (master...SetHex-bad-ptr) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14734
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 472018-11-16T02:30:10  <phantomcircuit> sipa, moving the buildpollfd logic into another method made the performance impact of socketevents disappear
 482018-11-16T02:30:13  <phantomcircuit> im confused
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 732018-11-16T04:26:32  <Dizzle> sipa or anyone that might know... does TestBlockValidity end up adding new valid blocks to the chain?
 742018-11-16T04:27:43  <Dizzle> It calls CChainState::ConnectBlock, but I couldn't figure out if that actually adds the new block to the chain
 752018-11-16T04:32:41  <Dizzle> Or morcos?
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 772018-11-16T04:36:12  <achow101> sipa: can you rebase #14565?
 782018-11-16T04:36:14  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14565 | Overhaul importmulti logic by sipa · Pull Request #14565 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
 792018-11-16T04:36:22  <achow101> so we can rebase all the things on top of it
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 842018-11-16T04:49:08  <luke-jr> Dizzle: it doesn't, and generally isn't expected to be called with mined blocks
 852018-11-16T04:49:18  <luke-jr> Dizzle: note it does not perform the PoW check
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 962018-11-16T05:28:10  <Dizzle_> luke-jr: if the mined block is proposed to Bitcoin Core via getblock template, it gets called, and I couldn't find an indication that a valid proposal gets submitted by Core.
 972018-11-16T05:28:18  <Dizzle_> *getblocktemplate
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 992018-11-16T05:31:59  <Dizzle> I'm assuming a pool implementing gbt would submit a valid proposal to their p2p and fibre peers?
1002018-11-16T05:32:08  <luke-jr> Dizzle: mined blocks aren't supposed to be proposed in that manner, they're supposed to be fed to submitblock
1012018-11-16T05:32:27  <luke-jr> a pool could, but clients shouldn't assume they will
1022018-11-16T05:32:48  <luke-jr> Dizzle: proposals are for checking that the block is valid BEFORE mining it
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1042018-11-16T05:36:38  <Dizzle> luke-jr: ahhh, thanks! That was the missing piece of the puzzle for me. I was thinking it was like getwork(data)
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1062018-11-16T05:37:00  <luke-jr> did you read the BIP? <.<
1072018-11-16T05:37:19  <luke-jr> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0022.mediawiki#Block_Submission
1082018-11-16T05:37:20  <Dizzle> I did. It didn't really define what a proposal was, just how to construct one
1092018-11-16T05:37:35  <luke-jr> hmm
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1112018-11-16T05:41:00  <Dizzle> Not your fault. I didn't jump into this knowing mining especially well. So proposal is for something like, "If I were to change the coinbase to spend coins to myself, would you accept the mined block when I submit it?"?
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1142018-11-16T05:43:06  <luke-jr> Dizzle: if the BIP is unclear, it is indeed my fault :P
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1162018-11-16T05:43:29  <luke-jr> Dizzle: in bitcoind's case, you have to make the coinbase from scratch, but otherwise yes
1172018-11-16T05:44:46  <Dizzle> Sweet. Thanks! Heading out for the night.
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1272018-11-16T07:03:17  <gmaxwell> luke-jr: I guess it wouldn't be bad for it to actually accept it, if it turned out to be valid.
1282018-11-16T07:09:18  <luke-jr> no, other than setting up a false expectation
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2462018-11-16T12:58:59  <provoostenator> Is there (or should there be) a document in the repo or elsewhere to describe best practices for replacing deprecated RPC calls?
2472018-11-16T12:59:38  <provoostenator> E.g. someone asked me what to use instead of signrawtransaction (answer: signrawtransactionwithkey or signrawtransactionwithwallet).
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2762018-11-16T15:06:29  <wumpus> for 'getinfo' we had a special message for a while, if you used the old RPC call, it'd give an error message to use the new ones, I think that would be good practice for other removed RPC calls as well at least for one major release
2772018-11-16T15:08:09  <instagibbs> Is there a great cost to just leaving around a disabled message indefinitely? No supporting code infra etc.
2782018-11-16T15:08:28  <instagibbs> Doesn't even have to be verbose, just "disabled, see release notes version blah" or something
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3082018-11-16T16:22:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/384967f311b4...35739976c1d9
3092018-11-16T16:22:22  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 07e286d Carl Dong: Improve scripted-diff developer docs...
3102018-11-16T16:22:23  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3573997 MarcoFalke: Merge #14731: doc: Improve scripted-diff developer docs...
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3142018-11-16T16:23:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #14731: doc: Improve scripted-diff developer docs (master...patch-4) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14731
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3302018-11-16T17:15:01  <phantomcircuit> anybody else had issues getting -pg to work?
3312018-11-16T17:15:09  <phantomcircuit> i get a gmon.out file but gprof analysis is empty
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3342018-11-16T17:26:55  <phantomcircuit> apparently gcc 6 doesn't work with pie and pg
3352018-11-16T17:26:56  <phantomcircuit> sad
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3492018-11-16T18:38:07  <zallarak> Is there any reviewer here that is willing to provide feedback on a PR that adds a flag to bitcoind?
3502018-11-16T18:39:57  <sipa> zallarak: what PR?
3512018-11-16T18:41:49  <zallarak> sipa: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14733
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3542018-11-16T18:43:06  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kristapsk opened pull request #14738: Fix running wallet_listtransactions.py individually through test_runner.py (master...listtransactions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14738
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3612018-11-16T18:52:51  <zallarak> Am I clear in understanding that all new code should be in snake case, even if surrounding code is camel case?
3622018-11-16T18:53:07  <sipa> zallarak: correct (for variable names)
3632018-11-16T18:53:44  <zallarak> Thank you, updating my PR for that.
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3652018-11-16T18:57:09  <sipa> sorry, i'm going to be 10-15 minutes late for the wallet meeting
3662018-11-16T19:00:32  <instagibbs> #timeforwalletmeeting
3672018-11-16T19:00:53  <instagibbs> or we can wait until pieter is here
3682018-11-16T19:00:54  <provoostenator> I can wait 15 mins...
3692018-11-16T19:00:58  <gwillen> :+1:
3702018-11-16T19:00:58  <instagibbs> ack
3712018-11-16T19:01:33  <meshcollider> I probably won't be able to be here the whole time, leaving in around half an hour
3722018-11-16T19:01:46  <achow101> wallet meeting?
3732018-11-16T19:03:58  <meshcollider> achow101: See messages above :p
3742018-11-16T19:14:59  <sipa> back.
3752018-11-16T19:15:03  <sipa> #startmeeting
3762018-11-16T19:15:03  <lightningbot> Meeting started Fri Nov 16 19:15:03 2018 UTC.  The chair is sipa. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
3772018-11-16T19:15:03  <lightningbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
3782018-11-16T19:15:42  <sipa> topics?
3792018-11-16T19:16:13  <provoostenator> Not really, I need to catch up on review and testing.
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3812018-11-16T19:16:42  <instagibbs> #14565 needs rebase/more review
3822018-11-16T19:16:44  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14565 | Overhaul importmulti logic by sipa · Pull Request #14565 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3832018-11-16T19:16:49  <meshcollider> Hi
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3852018-11-16T19:17:24  <sipa> yeah, i need to get back to that
3862018-11-16T19:17:28  <meshcollider> Yeah I need to rebase #14491 on it to
3872018-11-16T19:17:31  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14491 | Allow descriptor imports with importmulti by MeshCollider · Pull Request #14491 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3882018-11-16T19:17:41  <sipa> and i need to add more tests
3892018-11-16T19:17:48  <sipa> and address ryanofsky_'s comments
3902018-11-16T19:18:45  <instagibbs> gwillen, any update on psbt signing stuff?
3912018-11-16T19:19:10  <provoostenator> For those reading (the logs): ##hwi is a fun place for those interesting in _hardware_ wallet support, and there's some overlap with this effort.
3922018-11-16T19:19:11  <sipa> a question i had, how do we progress with things like #14481 ?
3932018-11-16T19:19:14  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14481 | Add P2SH-P2WSH support to listunspent RPC by MeshCollider · Pull Request #14481 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3942018-11-16T19:19:25  <gwillen> instagibbs: no update, other than I think https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14588 getting in happened since the last time we had this meeting
3952018-11-16T19:20:12  <sipa> because it seems to me that using descriptors instead of lists of keys/redeemscript/witnessnessscript in sign* RPCs will be a much better user experience
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3972018-11-16T19:20:22  <gwillen> I still owe another PR of PSBT related refactoring, and I have a working demo of offline signing UI if anybody wants to play with it (it's the same one I had around this time last week already)
3982018-11-16T19:20:37  <provoostenator> How would listunspent return descriptors?
3992018-11-16T19:20:56  <sipa> provoostenator: #14477
4002018-11-16T19:21:00  <sipa> already implemented
4012018-11-16T19:21:00  <meshcollider> provoostenator: accept, not return
4022018-11-16T19:21:01  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14477 | Add ability to convert solvability info to descriptor by sipa · Pull Request #14477 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4032018-11-16T19:21:09  <sipa> meshcollider: no, return
4042018-11-16T19:21:19  <instagibbs> the stuff you need to pass to other calls
4052018-11-16T19:21:23  <provoostenator> Ah ok, by converting scripts, that makes sense.
4062018-11-16T19:21:28  <meshcollider> Oh right
4072018-11-16T19:21:42  <provoostenator> And ultimately if the wallet contains descriptors, then it would just take that descriptor and an array of indexes?
4082018-11-16T19:21:59  <sipa> provoostenator: sure, but i'm talking about right now
4092018-11-16T19:22:24  <sipa> we can also add descriptor responses to addmultisig etc
4102018-11-16T19:22:33  <provoostenator> I like the idea of using descriptors for both inputs and outputs wherever feasible.
4112018-11-16T19:22:38  <instagibbs> basically we're taking advantage of descriptors pre-descriptor-record based wallets
4122018-11-16T19:22:52  <meshcollider> After I've finished reviewing the last few wallet PRs adding more descriptor support is what I really want to work on anyway
4132018-11-16T19:23:10  <sipa> that would mean adding descriptor support to signrawtransaction etc
4142018-11-16T19:23:24  <instagibbs> is there a list of places to be added?
4152018-11-16T19:23:31  <instagibbs> or is that an action item
4162018-11-16T19:23:42  <sipa> that's a good idea, we should make such a list
4172018-11-16T19:23:45  <sipa> i'll open an issue
4182018-11-16T19:23:51  <provoostenator> Yes please
4192018-11-16T19:23:51  <meshcollider> +1
4202018-11-16T19:24:26  <sipa> the question is then: do we go for that, or do we also try to keep the pre-descriptor approach functional?
4212018-11-16T19:24:49  <sipa> (which needs things like 14481, because listunspent + signrawtransactionwithkey is pretty much broken right now)
4222018-11-16T19:24:59  <meshcollider> I feel like it would have to be deprecated like accounts were
4232018-11-16T19:25:26  <sipa> i don't think there is a strong need to actually remove it
4242018-11-16T19:25:29  <meshcollider> 14481 is only broken for P2SH-P2WSH I think
4252018-11-16T19:25:34  <sipa> it's more a question of do we keep updating it with new stuff
4262018-11-16T19:26:16  <meshcollider> Ah yep, well if we're keeping the old stuff it at least needs to be maintained to a working level right
4272018-11-16T19:26:23  <meshcollider> But not new features no, IMO
4282018-11-16T19:27:02  <sipa> ok, fair
4292018-11-16T19:27:27  <ryanofsky_> 14481 also adds a test for signrawtransaction, though that could be added separately
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4312018-11-16T19:28:04  <sipa> ryanofsky_: ah, good
4322018-11-16T19:28:39  <meshcollider> See also #11708
4332018-11-16T19:28:43  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11708 | Add P2SH-P2WSH support to signrawtransaction and listunspent RPC by MeshCollider · Pull Request #11708 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4342018-11-16T19:28:52  <meshcollider> Which was the precursor to 14481
4352018-11-16T19:29:33  <meshcollider> Which it sounds like is actually a better approach to resurrect after all
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4372018-11-16T19:33:00  <sipa> another topic: #13932
4382018-11-16T19:33:02  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13932 | Additional utility RPCs for PSBT by achow101 · Pull Request #13932 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4392018-11-16T19:33:18  <sipa> achow101: when rebase?
4402018-11-16T19:33:25  <achow101> later today
4412018-11-16T19:34:09  <sipa> i was thinking about a processpsbtwithdescriptor RPC, and was wondering if it should be integrated with utxoupdatepsbt
4422018-11-16T19:34:25  <meshcollider> Ok I have to go now, I'll catch up on the rest later today
4432018-11-16T19:34:32  <sipa> as we have all the pieces in place now
4442018-11-16T19:35:09  <sipa> or should we keep them separate, where you'd first run utxoupdatepsbt, then processpsbtwithdescriptor to fill in scripts, and then sign (which could be done by any signer, or with processpsbtwithdescriptor at once)
4452018-11-16T19:35:15  <instagibbs> sipa, would that be a "stateless" call?
4462018-11-16T19:35:42  <sipa> utxoupdatepsbt is not stateless (it looks at the UTXO set), but processpsbtwithdescriptor would be
4472018-11-16T19:36:06  <instagibbs> was asking about latter
4482018-11-16T19:36:26  <instagibbs> so it would involve passing in xprv-containing descriptors when signing required
4492018-11-16T19:37:04  <sipa> i was thinking you could give it either public descriptors, private descriptors, or private keys separately
4502018-11-16T19:39:25  <achow101> i think it should stay separate
4512018-11-16T19:40:42  <sipa> i have a slight preference for that as well, but it's less convenient
4522018-11-16T19:41:25  <achow101> but do you really need a descriptor to process a psbt? what if we just made it a simple signer?
4532018-11-16T19:41:34  <achow101> the descriptor is only needed for finalizing
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4552018-11-16T19:42:14  <achow101> i guess you could also fill in keys from a descriptor
4562018-11-16T19:42:16  <sipa> achow101: to fill in witnessscript/redeemscripts/keys
4572018-11-16T19:42:19  <sipa> so yes
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4592018-11-16T19:45:36  <provoostenator> Just a key could be a handy shortcut for some descriptors, but perhaps the base case should be a descriptor.
4602018-11-16T19:46:02  <sipa> provoostenator: just a key is for the case where you have an xpub-based descriptor, and a private key separately
4612018-11-16T19:46:21  <provoostenator> For the unambiguous case if you have pwpk(blah xpub blah) then if you pass in an xpriv that's clear.
4622018-11-16T19:46:30  <provoostenator> Right
4632018-11-16T19:46:59  <provoostenator> But that would just be a shortcut for pwpk(blah xpriv blah)
4642018-11-16T19:46:59  <sipa> or when the PSBT already has all script fields, and all you have is a private key
4652018-11-16T19:47:44  <sipa> i'll add them to the issue i'm opening
4662018-11-16T19:47:49  <sipa> anything else we want to discuss?
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4692018-11-16T19:54:08  <provoostenator> Nope
4702018-11-16T19:54:53  <sipa> as decreed by provoostenator:
4712018-11-16T19:54:56  <sipa> #endmeeting
4722018-11-16T19:54:56  <lightningbot> Meeting ended Fri Nov 16 19:54:56 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
4732018-11-16T19:54:56  <lightningbot> Minutes:        http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2018/bitcoin-core-dev.2018-11-16-19.15.html
4742018-11-16T19:54:56  <lightningbot> Minutes (text): http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2018/bitcoin-core-dev.2018-11-16-19.15.txt
4752018-11-16T19:54:56  <lightningbot> Log:            http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2018/bitcoin-core-dev.2018-11-16-19.15.log.html
4762018-11-16T19:55:08  <sipa> opened https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14739
4772018-11-16T20:07:26  <zallarak> meshcollider: I updated per your feedback, and the build is passing. Any other thoughts / comments welcome. I am thinking about a new way of testing, that is why I worked on this.
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5142018-11-16T21:12:42  <zallarak> MarcoFalke: friendly ping if you have any thoughts on the revised PR I submitted (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14733)
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5382018-11-16T22:37:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sp4ke opened pull request #14740: Update `rpcbind` doc to match the manpage closes #9272 (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14740
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