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 34 2018-11-17T02:03:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #14741: Indicate -rpcauth option password hashing alg (master...2018-11-improve-rpcauth-help) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14741
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 41 2018-11-17T02:18:55  <meshcollider> Ooh GitHub now has force-push notifications
 42 2018-11-17T02:18:58  <meshcollider> That's useful
 43 2018-11-17T02:19:35  <meshcollider> See e.g. #14733
 44 2018-11-17T02:19:37  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14733 | p2p: allow p2ptimeout to be configurable, speed up slow test by zallarak · Pull Request #14733 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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103 2018-11-17T06:42:29  <dongcarl> Any reason why `bitcoin/share/rpcauth/rpcauth.py` generates a 16 byte salt instead of a 32 byte salt? I believe RFC 2104 recommends the key length to be larger than or equal to the hash output length: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2104#section-3
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106 2018-11-17T06:46:30  <dongcarl> It also seems that the format string will only output one character if the randomly generated byte is below 0x10, which I don't think is the expected behavior...
107 2018-11-17T06:47:54  <sipa> dongcarl: you don't need an HMAC here
108 2018-11-17T06:48:04  <sipa> or ratherx you don't actually need a MAC here
109 2018-11-17T06:48:22  <sipa> just a hash with some protection against dictionaries
110 2018-11-17T06:48:44  <sipa> so making the salt large enough to make a dictionary attack infeasible is enough
111 2018-11-17T06:48:49  <sipa> 64 bits probably suffices
112 2018-11-17T06:50:25  <dongcarl> sipa: right, but it wouldn't hurt to have a few more bits of entropy and conform to the spec?
113 2018-11-17T06:50:42  <dongcarl> Also with the format string bug we have less than 64 bits at times
114 2018-11-17T06:50:58  <sipa> dongcarl: link to code?
115 2018-11-17T06:51:17  <dongcarl> sipa: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/share/rpcauth/rpcauth.py#L18
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117 2018-11-17T06:52:02  <dongcarl> That format string will only output 1 character if the r in salt_sequence is less than 0x10
118 2018-11-17T06:52:11  <sipa> nice catch
119 2018-11-17T06:52:48  <sipa> but it's not a problem; the set of encoded salts still has 128 bits of entropy
120 2018-11-17T06:53:01  <sipa> oh, no!
121 2018-11-17T06:53:03  <sipa> slightly less
122 2018-11-17T06:53:09  <dongcarl> Right
123 2018-11-17T06:53:10  <sipa> there are collisions
124 2018-11-17T06:53:42  <dongcarl> I'll PR to fix it to make it according to normal expectations
125 2018-11-17T06:54:10  <sipa> dongcarl: i don't think "comforming to the spec" matters here; the spec is to satsify the requirements of a secure MAaC; we don't need a secure MAC
126 2018-11-17T06:54:24  <sipa> but yes, please fix the formatting issue
127 2018-11-17T06:54:59  <dongcarl> Okay gotcha
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131 2018-11-17T07:13:40  <jarthur> Wait, why slightly less than 128? If r is more than 0x10, don't we get more than 1 character?
132 2018-11-17T07:17:41  <sipa> the number of characters doesn't matter
133 2018-11-17T07:17:47  <sipa> the number of combinations matters
134 2018-11-17T07:19:23  <sipa> but given that there are distinct inputs that map to the same salt string (e.g. (0x1, 0x23, 0x45) and (0x12, 0x34, 0x5) both map to 12345)
135 2018-11-17T07:19:56  <jarthur> Makes sense now. Thanks :)
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138 2018-11-17T07:32:00  <jarthur> The format line could just be replaced by using binascii.hexlify, that way we'll get two-digit hexes as ASCII bytes and won't need the later UTF-8 encodes. Would just need to use salt.decode('ascii') in the printed string.
139 2018-11-17T07:32:19  <dongcarl> jarthur: I just did os.random(16).hex()
140 2018-11-17T07:32:21  <dongcarl> works fine
141 2018-11-17T07:32:38  <jarthur> I like that even better
142 2018-11-17T07:32:40  <jarthur> nice
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144 2018-11-17T07:34:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #14742: Properly generate salt in rpcauth.py (master...2018-11-fix-rpcauth-salt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14742
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146 2018-11-17T07:41:03  <sipa> dongcarl: do we require python 3.6?
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148 2018-11-17T07:42:53  <dongcarl> sipa: I think we require python at least
149 2018-11-17T07:42:56  <dongcarl> python3
150 2018-11-17T07:43:44  <jarthur> bytes.hex was introduced in Python 3.5
151 2018-11-17T07:43:44  <dongcarl> we require python 3.4 for tests according to https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/dependencies.md
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153 2018-11-17T07:44:31  <dongcarl> jarthur: link?
154 2018-11-17T07:44:39  <jarthur> https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#bytes.hex
155 2018-11-17T07:45:14  <dongcarl> Ooof
156 2018-11-17T07:45:54  <sipa> because python 3.6 has the "secret" module
157 2018-11-17T07:46:09  <sipa> for generating cryptographic strength randomness
158 2018-11-17T07:47:20  <luke-jr> RHEL seems to be at Python 3.4 (w/ EPEL)
159 2018-11-17T07:50:06  <dongcarl> Okay guess I'll conform to python 3.4...
160 2018-11-17T07:50:15  <dongcarl> :-(
161 2018-11-17T07:51:19  * luke-jr guesses he should probably reinstall Py3.4 for this purpose
162 2018-11-17T07:51:31  <jarthur> Too bad. Python 3.6 was one of the best Python releases to date, features-wise.
163 2018-11-17T07:52:02  <dongcarl> Yeah I think 3.6 was optional types as well?
164 2018-11-17T07:52:13  <luke-jr> jarthur: we'll get there eventually
165 2018-11-17T07:52:44  <luke-jr> it tends to be RHEL holding things back, and RHEL 8 is supposedly due this year
166 2018-11-17T07:53:44  <luke-jr> with 3.6 apparently: https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2018/11/14/python-in-rhel-8/
167 2018-11-17T07:54:14  <Dizzle> Cool, I'm not worried, just wishful
168 2018-11-17T07:54:19  <luke-jr> although Debian stable is only 3.5
169 2018-11-17T07:54:44  <luke-jr> and next not due until 2019
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174 2018-11-17T08:01:12  <jarthur> dongcarl: yea, though I'm kind of lumping 3.5 and 3.6 together since the latter polished a lot of the 3.5 stuff. f-strings, async iteration and generation, optional typing, efficient dicts, path-like objects
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176 2018-11-17T08:02:13  <meshcollider> sipa: if it's secret, how do you know about it
177 2018-11-17T08:05:02  <dongcarl> meshcollider: the sipa knows all, don't you know? https://cryptopop.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/pieter_wuille_v2.png?w=768
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180 2018-11-17T08:12:32  <luke-jr> XD
181 2018-11-17T08:13:07  <luke-jr> dongcarl: is he a gardener?
182 2018-11-17T08:14:54  <dongcarl> Gunna stop this digression from development discussion here, but luke-jr here's the source: https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/947699170353340416
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245 2018-11-17T13:00:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] LucianaMarques opened pull request #14744: [Docs] Added NSIS install steps to build-windows.md (master...windows-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14744
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254 2018-11-17T14:13:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] IPGlider opened pull request #14746: Check for invalid prefixes in config file (master...check_invalid_prefixes_in_config_file) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14746
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257 2018-11-17T14:15:47  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] IPGlider closed pull request #14746: Check for invalid prefixes in config file (master...check_invalid_prefixes_in_config_file) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14746
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285 2018-11-17T16:16:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Empact opened pull request #14747: build: Drop AC_CHECK_DECLS for unused __builtin_clz (master...builtin-clz) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14747
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304 2018-11-17T18:12:47  <dongcarl> Would it be possible to block a user from bitcoin/bitcoin? This guy's been spamming: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14742#issuecomment-439635586
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328 2018-11-17T20:20:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vim88 opened pull request #14749: Refactor: Changes postincrement to preincrement in for loop in src/consensus files (master...postincrement_to_preincrement_src_consensus) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14749
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337 2018-11-17T20:51:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vim88 closed pull request #14749: Refactor: Changes postincrement to preincrement in for loop in src/consensus files (master...postincrement_to_preincrement_src_consensus) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14749
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339 2018-11-17T20:52:44  <zallarak> Thank you to those that left feedback on my PR. Does anyone else have thoughts? (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14733)
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