1 2018-12-02T00:01:34  <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, so the poll() implementation takes about 2us with 8 peers and select takes 1us with 8 peers
  2 2018-12-02T00:01:44  <phantomcircuit> im guessing it's basically linear 1:1 badness
  3 2018-12-02T00:02:04  <phantomcircuit> but that seems fine to me
  4 2018-12-02T00:05:01  <gmaxwell> yes, I think thats basically irrelevant.
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 94 2018-12-02T08:20:40  <NicolasDorier> harding: I think those UTXO set are way less dangerous than relying on SPV. https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver-docker/blob/master/contrib/FastSync/README.md#why-you-dont-just-make-btcpayserver-rely-on-spv
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 97 2018-12-02T08:24:58  <NicolasDorier> sipa: Nothing prevent me of signing a snapshot every day. But what would be the danger of me doing so? They would trust my repository, but they still have a way to check the utxoset is correct once it is fully sync.
 98 2018-12-02T08:24:58  <NicolasDorier> If people do not have a full node, and  do not trusting the repository, they could take a look at the signatures in https://github.com/btcpayserver/btcpayserver-docker/tree/master/contrib/FastSync/sigs  of somebody else they trust
 99 2018-12-02T08:26:30  <NicolasDorier> @harding not mentioning SPV put all the bruden of handling P2P from untrusted source.
100 2018-12-02T08:26:37  <NicolasDorier> on my own code
101 2018-12-02T08:27:01  <NicolasDorier> Strictly better to use Bitcoin Core to filter the traffic for me
102 2018-12-02T08:27:38  <sipa> NicolasDorier: i see
103 2018-12-02T08:29:16  <sipa> that's a fair point
104 2018-12-02T08:30:28  <NicolasDorier> harding: Also, I don't like the fact that then the availability of your service would depends on the remote node
105 2018-12-02T08:31:17  <NicolasDorier> Verifying consensus rules are not that heavy for the CPU once the sync is done.
106 2018-12-02T08:32:01  <NicolasDorier> Using SPV instead of full validation seems harder and put again risks of miners having leverage on individuals
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109 2018-12-02T08:36:16  <NicolasDorier> Sorry, this conversation might be better on bitcoin-dev than on bitcoin-core-dev.
110 2018-12-02T08:36:16  <NicolasDorier> I initially just wanted to propose the idea of including such utxo set snapshot hash in a text file in Bitcoin Core releases as part of the release process.  So people trusting the gitian sigs, can also trust the snapshot hash. It would be one UTXO set snapshot at every core release, which is more than enough.
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112 2018-12-02T08:36:38  <NicolasDorier> quite easy to verify for contributors
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114 2018-12-02T08:39:38  <NicolasDorier> No need of any additional tool, or any rpc or nothing, just a pure text file with the utxo set hash in every release that gitian signers would check as part of the release process.
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124 2018-12-02T09:14:22  <gmaxwell>  But what would be the danger of me doing so? -- because it makes your actions effectively unreviewable
125 2018-12-02T09:16:37  <gmaxwell> " but they still have a way to check the utxoset is correct once it is fully sync." -- and as you've admitted, essentially no one will.
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148 2018-12-02T10:19:19  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Empact opened pull request #14855: test: Correct ineffectual WithOrVersion from transactions_tests (master...with-or-version-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14855
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155 2018-12-02T10:43:48  <dongcarl> Can someone remove #8708 from p2p refactor project?
156 2018-12-02T10:43:54  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/8708 | net: have CConnman handle message sending by theuni · Pull Request #8708 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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160 2018-12-02T10:49:33  <meshcollider> dongcarl: done
161 2018-12-02T10:50:05  <meshcollider> Or rather, I moved it from "in progress" to "done"
162 2018-12-02T10:50:12  <dongcarl> Yeah thanks dude
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164 2018-12-02T10:56:23  <NicolasDorier> gmaxwell: The people who would not check the utxo set, would also never check the bitcoin core binaries via gitian and just download them from the website.
165 2018-12-02T10:56:23  <NicolasDorier> At least, if the utxo set hash is part of the release, they don't have to trust an additional party for the utxo set snapshot.
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193 2018-12-02T12:09:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift closed pull request #11551: Fix unsigned integer wrap-around in GetBlockProofEquivalentTime (master...proof-equivalent-time) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11551
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205 2018-12-02T12:41:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #14856: [rebase] net: remove more CConnman globals (master...2018-12-more-connman-params) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14856
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211 2018-12-02T13:23:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] instagibbs opened pull request #14857: wallet_keypool_topup.py: Test for all keypool address types (master...keypool_topup_addresstype) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14857
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272 2018-12-02T15:41:23  <amaclin> may I propose Bitcoin client feature here?
273 2018-12-02T15:51:04  <molz> amaclin, you can do it in channel #bitcoin or #bitcoin-dev
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287 2018-12-02T16:20:58  <instagibbs> amaclin, if it's a feature for bitcoin core, opening an issue as feature request is definitely appropriate
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289 2018-12-02T16:22:59  <harding> NicolasDorier: I didn't suggest using SPV with a changing set of random peers the way some wallets do.  That indeed requires miner trust.  I suggested connecting over SPV to a single node that the user trusted.  If the user operated the node themselves, then their security is the same as bootstrapping their own node specifically for BTCPay.  If the user uses your node, then this is probably no worse than them trusting your UTXO
290 2018-12-02T16:22:59  <harding> snapshot.  The advantage is that they can switch from trusting you during initial setup to trusting themselves after their node has synced, allowing you to have the advantage of minimum setup delay for a nice UX but also, after a time, strong security without trust in you.
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335 2018-12-02T18:17:19  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ch4ot1c closed pull request #14459: More RPC help description fixes (master...fix/rpc-descriptions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14459
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370 2018-12-02T19:21:50  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] salisbury-espinosa opened pull request #14858: RPC getblock accepts height or hash (master...rpc_getblock_accepts_height_or_hash) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14858
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412 2018-12-02T20:36:19  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] salisbury-espinosa closed pull request #14858: RPC getblock accepts height or hash (master...rpc_getblock_accepts_height_or_hash) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14858
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