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 152019-02-21T00:37:08  <promag_> achow101: do you have a newer Qt version available
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 172019-02-21T00:37:50  <achow101> promag_: I can do a depends build
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 212019-02-21T00:39:06  <promag> achow101: when I was doing #15153 usually I tested with -nowallet
 222019-02-21T00:39:08  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15153 | gui: Add Open Wallet menu by promag · Pull Request #15153 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
 232019-02-21T00:39:35  <promag> it is kind of a surprise to see your behavior
 242019-02-21T00:40:10  <promag> I don't see any reason to be different with Qt 5.7 to be honest
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 262019-02-21T00:42:48  <promag> is 5.7 what comes with debian
 272019-02-21T00:43:00  <promag> ?
 282019-02-21T00:43:13  <achow101> I think so
 292019-02-21T00:43:50  <promag> I'm downloading debian now to check it out
 302019-02-21T00:44:05  <promag> btw I'm working on top of your branch
 312019-02-21T00:44:19  <promag> gui-create-wallet
 322019-02-21T00:47:45  <achow101> originally I thought it was a problem with my branch, but i checked with my build of the master branch and it had the same problem
 332019-02-21T00:48:54  <promag> and there is nothing in .conf that could interfere?
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 352019-02-21T00:50:49  <achow101> hmm. there's a wallet specified in there
 362019-02-21T00:51:40  <achow101> well commenting that out didn't change anything
 372019-02-21T00:54:18  <promag> I'll let you know how my debian test went
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 392019-02-21T00:55:48  <booyah> promag: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/qtbase5-dev
 402019-02-21T00:55:59  <booyah> 5.7.1 (plus custom patches)
 412019-02-21T01:00:20  <promag> booyah: ty
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 472019-02-21T01:10:18  <achow101> promag: the depends build works. it doesn't have that issue
 482019-02-21T01:10:28  <achow101> so it must be some problem with 5.7.1
 492019-02-21T01:11:16  <promag> mother of god
 502019-02-21T01:13:58  <achow101> promag: when I was testing gui-create-wallet, if i used the create wallet option when -nowallet was set, it would create the wallet and load it
 512019-02-21T01:14:41  <achow101> the only difference between that and the open wallet option when it comes to loading the wallet is that open wallet uses a signal to call setCurrentWallet while create wallet called it directly
 522019-02-21T01:16:08  <achow101> and then open wallet works fine if used after create wallet
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 542019-02-21T01:20:51  <promag> achow101: there is currently a problem
 552019-02-21T01:21:01  <promag> this was already identified
 562019-02-21T01:21:04  <promag> https://github.com/achow101/bitcoin/blob/668aa51d2bbb1911ebc83b84fb8209c54e108a69/src/qt/walletframe.cpp#L81
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 582019-02-21T01:21:42  <promag> if that is called before WalletFrame::addWallet then it wouldn't show the wallet
 592019-02-21T01:22:18  <achow101> promag: but then why does different qt versions matter?
 602019-02-21T01:23:06  <promag> I'm guessing signal/slot ordering and because OpenWalletActivity is on a different thread
 612019-02-21T01:23:44  <promag> if that's the reason behind that problem I'm currently fixing it
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 662019-02-21T01:27:43  <achow101> ah, so the problem is likely that addwallet isn't being called before setcurrentwallet
 672019-02-21T01:27:58  <promag> yap
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 692019-02-21T01:30:27  <achow101> promag: that fixed that problem but introduced a whole new one
 702019-02-21T01:30:51  <achow101> none of the tabs work and the dropdown for the wallet selector isn't there (i tried to load multiple wallets)
 712019-02-21T01:31:23  <promag> I said "to see if that's the problem"
 722019-02-21T01:32:50  <achow101> yes that is the problem
 732019-02-21T01:33:25  <promag> I think that new issue is because "BitcoinGUI::addWallet" wasn't called or something
 742019-02-21T01:33:47  <promag> don't worry about this
 752019-02-21T01:33:51  <achow101> ok
 762019-02-21T01:34:10  <promag> I'll try to give instructions on how to reproduce and submit a fix
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 992019-02-21T04:19:09  <fanquake> I can confirm achow101's problem with qt 5.7.1
1002019-02-21T04:19:18  <fanquake> spun up a debian vm and get the same behaviour
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1032019-02-21T04:46:55  <benthecarman> Hey what would be people's thought on adding rpc/cli commands to change config options
1042019-02-21T04:48:01  <benthecarman> My thoughts were for specifically rpcalllowip because it'd be nice to give an ip permission without needing to restart the node everytime
1052019-02-21T04:49:53  <sipa> that's a common suggestion
1062019-02-21T04:50:17  <sipa> and it certainly makes sense for a few things (rpcallowip is a good example)
1072019-02-21T04:50:51  <sipa> though it's very hard to do generically (because values of config options often affect how various derived variables are initialized stc)
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1102019-02-21T05:02:57  <benthecarman> Yeah I imagine, need to write to file and change the permissions while running. If a PR was made, would it likely be approved however?
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1122019-02-21T05:04:45  <gmaxwell> I'm unsure, the change would likely be highly disruptive and might not be justified for the benefit. :(
1132019-02-21T05:05:13  <gmaxwell> Sometimes we can't really tell if a change would be accepted until its done.
1142019-02-21T05:05:47  <gmaxwell> I think if you go read past discussions (which you absolutely should do before attempting or it probably won't be accepted!), you'll see that it's not really a simple question.
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1172019-02-21T05:09:23  <sipa> benthecarman: oh, there is a PR to introduce a sepaeate writable config file for this purpose
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1202019-02-21T05:11:33  <tryphe> what about accepting a dns/alias in addition to a netmask/CIDR? then you would just depend on the system to resolve the alias, and avoid remote changes
1212019-02-21T05:12:54  <gmaxwell> from a programming perspective sticking a DNS query in is pretty awful... as you now have network interaction in an otherwise trivial code path.  DNS is also almost universally deployed in an insecure manner, so making your auth triggered by DNS usually immediately exposes it to attacks.
1222019-02-21T05:13:14  <gmaxwell> elsewhere where we've had dns resolution it's resulted in stupid bugs.
1232019-02-21T05:13:23  <tryphe> yeah, it would suck to switchover like 12 hours later because of dns caching, lol
1242019-02-21T05:13:27  <gmaxwell> (e.g. addnode)
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1262019-02-21T05:14:07  <gmaxwell> sooo I'd really prefer not to.  the rpc is really not intended to be used outside of a single host/vms/physically isolated lan/ etc.
1272019-02-21T05:15:29  <sipa> tryphe: if the expected behavior is that it is resolved once at startup time it is very easy to implement... but perhaps undesirable or at least unintuitive
1282019-02-21T05:15:33  <tryphe> yeah, or if you needed to, more practical to run a tunnel
1292019-02-21T05:15:52  <gmaxwell> yup which is also what we recommend.
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1432019-02-21T07:31:41  <wumpus> yes tunneling is definitely the way to go for remote RPC, this is also what is suggested in `doc/JSON-RPC-interface.md`
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1452019-02-21T07:39:42  <wumpus> it's cool that we're pretty much on schedule for 0.18 branch-off, two pulls to go for now https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+milestone%3A0.18.0
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1472019-02-21T07:46:24  <IZooo> Hello :)
1482019-02-21T07:46:29  <wumpus> hi !
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1522019-02-21T08:09:25  <droark> Hi. In testnet, it appears that dust limits for outputs (dustrealyfee) are ignored. Can somebody point out where in the code this exception occurs? I'm getting lost trying to find it.
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1542019-02-21T08:18:38  <wumpus> droark: the dust check is done in policy.cpp, IsStandardTx, this isn't checked for regtest and testnet by default, but can be overridden using `-acceptnonstdtxn`
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1562019-02-21T08:23:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f9775a865597...3e1ca1348cbd
1572019-02-21T08:23:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 745a2ac Hennadii Stepanov: Improve PID file removing errors logging
1582019-02-21T08:23:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 561e375 Hennadii Stepanov: Make PID file creating errors fatal
1592019-02-21T08:23:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3782075 Hennadii Stepanov: Move all PID file stuff to init.cpp
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1622019-02-21T08:24:32  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15278: Improve PID file error handling (master...20190128-pidfile-logging) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15278
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1642019-02-21T08:25:41  <droark> @wumpus - Thanks! Much appreciated. Missed the greater context.
1652019-02-21T08:25:48  <wumpus> yw
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1702019-02-21T08:44:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3e1ca1348cbd...4d126f289c7d
1712019-02-21T08:45:00  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 901baf2 fanquake: doc: update FreeBSD build guide for 12.0
1722019-02-21T08:45:00  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4d126f2 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15416: doc: update FreeBSD build guide for 12.0
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1752019-02-21T08:45:39  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15416: doc: update FreeBSD build guide for 12.0 (master...docs-freebsd-120) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15416
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1782019-02-21T08:51:41  <wumpus> #15267 adds some documentation comments, would be nice if someone with a good grasp of the mempool/caching logic (sipa, sdaftuar ?) could review them for correctness
1792019-02-21T08:51:43  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15267 | doc: explain AcceptToMemoryPoolWorkers coins_to_uncache by jamesob · Pull Request #15267 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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1822019-02-21T08:59:38  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 55e05a8 Martin Erlandsson: Added some factors that affect the dependency list
1832019-02-21T08:59:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b853746 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #15222: docs: Add info about factors that affect dependency list
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1862019-02-21T09:00:09  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #15222: docs: Add info about factors that affect dependency list (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15222
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1982019-02-21T10:18:12  <wumpus> luke-jr: I've sent the addrv2 message draft BIP to the mailing list, can you assign me a BIP number please?
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2202019-02-21T11:47:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] riordant opened pull request #15456: Enable PID file creation on WIN (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15456
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2262019-02-21T12:21:31  <gmaxwell> If anyone is getting bored waiting for 0.18 to ship to get moving on other work...  libsecp256k1  has a couple PRs that could just use some C code review:
2272019-02-21T12:21:34  <gmaxwell> in particular: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/578
2282019-02-21T12:22:14  <gmaxwell> also https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/584 (cross compiling build system review)
2292019-02-21T12:22:24  <wumpus> I'll take a look
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2312019-02-21T12:23:50  <gmaxwell> and one final one https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/568  (which mostly I want plain C code review-- as it previously had a silly pointer vs int bug, though this one touches more complicated code that might leave people unfamilar with the library feeling lost)
2322019-02-21T12:24:06  <gmaxwell> wumpus: that would be great, thank you!
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2482019-02-21T13:15:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #15457: Check std::system for -[alert|block|wallet]notify (master...2019/02/std__system) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15457
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2772019-02-21T15:29:01  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #15458: refactor: Drop redundant wallet reference (master...2019-02-interfaces-wallet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15458
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2862019-02-21T16:02:14  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] marcoagner opened pull request #15459: [doc] release process: how to calculate m_assumed_blockchain_size and m_assumed_chain_state_size (master...doc_blockchain_and_chainstate_size_calculation) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15459
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2932019-02-21T16:52:01  <jnewbery> Hi all. dongcarl is doing great work picking up the p2p refactor project (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/4). I think it makes sense for him to have write access so he can update that board. Due to github permissions, that would also allow give him write access to do things like tag and close issues. It would *not* give him commit permissions.
2942019-02-21T16:52:12  <jnewbery> any objections?
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2962019-02-21T16:53:20  <wumpus> no, sgtm
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3092019-02-21T17:18:08  <gkrizek> I updated #15255 with MarcoFalke 's suggestions if anyone cares to take another look.
3102019-02-21T17:18:09  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15255 | [tests] Remove travis_wait from lint script by gkrizek · Pull Request #15255 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3152019-02-21T17:33:16  <provoostenator> Would be nice to get this one line documentation change in: #13676
3162019-02-21T17:33:18  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13676 | Explain that mempool memory is added to -dbcache by Sjors · Pull Request #13676 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3172019-02-21T17:52:43  <luke-jr> wumpus: I don't see a PR? (nor ML discussion, but maybe the subject is just non-obvious?)
3182019-02-21T17:54:22  <wumpus> luke-jr: sure, I can make a PR, but though that'd only make sense if there is a bip number
3192019-02-21T17:55:49  <luke-jr> BIP 2 put PR before number assignment
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3222019-02-21T17:57:56  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b853746d4a8a...a83aedca1889
3232019-02-21T17:57:57  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7cb1a14 Sjors Provoost: Explain that unused mempool memory is added to -dbcache
3242019-02-21T17:57:57  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a83aedc Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #13676: Explain that mempool memory is added to -dbcache
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3272019-02-21T17:58:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #13676: Explain that mempool memory is added to -dbcache (master...2018/07/dbcache-ibd-mempool) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13676
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3312019-02-21T18:04:43  <wumpus> luke-jr: ok, thanks
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3482019-02-21T19:01:24  <promag_> no meeting?
3492019-02-21T19:01:49  * luke-jr meets with promag_
3502019-02-21T19:01:53  <jnewbery> hi
3512019-02-21T19:01:53  <jamesob> I think it was done earlier due to a conf-related timezone shift?
3522019-02-21T19:02:02  <kanzure> hi
3532019-02-21T19:02:09  <promag_> luke-jr: o/
3542019-02-21T19:02:12  <achow101> jamesob: no?
3552019-02-21T19:02:16  <moneyball> oh?
3562019-02-21T19:02:36  <achow101> \me performs the wumpus summoning ritual
3572019-02-21T19:03:02  <jamesob> nvm I'm full of it probably
3582019-02-21T19:03:07  <luke-jr> XD
3592019-02-21T19:03:15  <jnewbery> #action hunt the wumpus
3602019-02-21T19:03:43  <kanzure> wumpus is an endangered species and we probably shouldn't hunt to extinction
3612019-02-21T19:03:51  <promag_> anyway bbl
3622019-02-21T19:04:00  <luke-jr> promag_: ⁈
3632019-02-21T19:04:21  <luke-jr> ok, let's all discuss promag_'s PRs behind his back
3642019-02-21T19:05:25  <MarcoFalke> Let's start by proposing topics
3652019-02-21T19:05:34  <MarcoFalke> s/start/wait/
3662019-02-21T19:06:21  * sipa half online from FC19
3672019-02-21T19:06:25  <wumpus> #startmeeting
3682019-02-21T19:06:25  <lightningbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 21 19:06:25 2019 UTC.  The chair is wumpus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
3692019-02-21T19:06:25  <lightningbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
3702019-02-21T19:06:42  <wumpus> sorry
3712019-02-21T19:06:59  <wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101 meshcollider jnewbery maaku fanquake promag provoostenator aj Chris_Stewart_5 dongcarl gwillen jamesob ken281221 ryanofsky gleb
3722019-02-21T19:07:03  <MarcoFalke> heh, I don't think there is much to discuss anyway?
3732019-02-21T19:07:24  <moneyball> no proposed topics during the week
3742019-02-21T19:07:24  <gmaxwell> HI
3752019-02-21T19:07:30  <MarcoFalke> Has anyone seen issues after the feature freeze that are not related to emojis?
3762019-02-21T19:07:48  <promag_> I'll submit a couple of fixes for 0.18, then help achow101 on create wallet, cheers
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3782019-02-21T19:07:50  <moneyball> and congrats to everyone for completing feature freeze!
3792019-02-21T19:07:51  <promag_> emojis ^
3802019-02-21T19:07:52  <wumpus> the good news is, we're very well on schedule; there's two PRs left to be merged for 0.18 #15402 #15401
3812019-02-21T19:07:56  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15402 | Granular invalidateblock and RewindBlockIndex by sipa · Pull Request #15402 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3822019-02-21T19:07:58  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15401 | rpc: Actually throw help when passed invalid number of params by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #15401 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3832019-02-21T19:08:27  <achow101> MarcoFalke: #15453. promag_ and I figured out it's a signalling order problem with qt 5.7.1
3842019-02-21T19:08:29  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15453 | Starting bitcoin-qt with -nowallet and then opening a wallet does not show the wallet · Issue #15453 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3852019-02-21T19:08:43  <MarcoFalke> oh, so not related to the filename?
3862019-02-21T19:08:49  <achow101> no
3872019-02-21T19:09:02  <achow101> well there's that too I think
3882019-02-21T19:09:17  <achow101> (different issue)
3892019-02-21T19:09:30  <wumpus> please let me know if anything needs tagging for 0.18
3902019-02-21T19:09:30  <kanzure> hi
3912019-02-21T19:12:27  <luke-jr> <.<
3922019-02-21T19:13:00  <wumpus> that's a short meeting I guess
3932019-02-21T19:13:19  <wumpus> no topics, nothing to discuss for 0.18 ?
3942019-02-21T19:13:29  <jnewbery> I imagine the same will be true for a wallet meeting tomorrow. Do we want to postpone that until next week?
3952019-02-21T19:13:32  <wumpus> please help reviewing the last PRs then
3962019-02-21T19:14:12  <moneyball> it gives developers time to do some extra reviews such as the PRs gmaxwell referred to earlier today
3972019-02-21T19:14:45  <wumpus> so the aim for the 0.18 branch split-off is 2019-03-01, I guess we're going to make it this time :)
3982019-02-21T19:15:10  <wumpus> yes, gmaxwell mentioned some secp256k1 PRs that need reviewing
3992019-02-21T19:15:37  <luke-jr> [12:21:31] <gmaxwell> If anyone is getting bored waiting for 0.18 to ship to get moving on other work…  libsecp256k1  has a couple PRs that could just use some C code review:
4002019-02-21T19:15:38  <luke-jr> [12:21:34] <gmaxwell> in particular: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/578
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4022019-02-21T19:16:34  <wumpus> #endmeeting
4032019-02-21T19:16:34  <lightningbot> Meeting ended Thu Feb 21 19:16:34 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
4042019-02-21T19:16:34  <lightningbot> Minutes:        http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2019/bitcoin-core-dev.2019-02-21-19.06.html
4052019-02-21T19:16:34  <lightningbot> Minutes (text): http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2019/bitcoin-core-dev.2019-02-21-19.06.txt
4062019-02-21T19:16:34  <lightningbot> Log:            http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2019/bitcoin-core-dev.2019-02-21-19.06.log.html
4072019-02-21T19:16:57  <jnewbery> meshcollider: any thoughts about postponing wallet meeting to next week?
4082019-02-21T19:16:57  <gmaxwell> It isn't critical, but I've been trying to catch up the enormous backlog of PRs on libsecp256k1. (I merged ~11 PRs yesturday).  What I asked about in here were ones probably anyone in here could give a useful review to...
4092019-02-21T19:17:50  <gmaxwell> I'm trying to get all the small improvements that were sitting around merged so as only to cause ~1 rebase cycle for the other inflight more significant pieces of code. (e.g. schnorr signatures)
4102019-02-21T19:17:55  <luke-jr> ah, not crypto-heavy
4112019-02-21T19:18:32  <wumpus> no, some build system and refactoring
4122019-02-21T19:18:59  <wumpus> some of it is very scary though
4132019-02-21T19:19:13  <jnewbery> I have one other announcement: we're closing applications to the residency on Sunday. We've found that some of our best applicants have been referrals, so if you know anyone who you think would be a good Bitcoin contributor, please send them our way! https://residency.chaincode.com
4142019-02-21T19:19:17  <gmaxwell> mostly because I already merged all the stuff that was trivial. :P
4152019-02-21T19:21:51  <luke-jr> gmaxwell: unrelated to the PR itself, shouldn't there be checks that pos isn't beyond the end of input here? https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/578/files#diff-894075824bb67186a1d4e4cc3961644eR57
4162019-02-21T19:22:31  <luke-jr> or is this assuming some degree of well-formed input?
4172019-02-21T19:25:42  <gmaxwell> it certantly should not be assuming well-formed input.
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4202019-02-21T19:27:00  <gmaxwell> well to be clear, earlier code in the function probably checks a minimum size.
4212019-02-21T19:27:08  <luke-jr> am I missing where it gets checked? hopefully I'm not leaving incorrect review comments :x
4222019-02-21T19:27:17  <gmaxwell> so if thats what you meant by assuming some degree of well formed, that could be the case.
4232019-02-21T19:28:24  <gmaxwell> luke-jr: your thought that its missing a check looks correct to me.
4242019-02-21T19:28:56  <gmaxwell> there is a check before each prior one, but I don't see a check after that last postincrement.
4252019-02-21T19:29:43  <gmaxwell> thought IIRC there is a pretty good fuzzing based tester for that function, so I'm surprised that if its got a bug there it hasn't been noticed.
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4342019-02-21T20:13:54  <meshcollider> jnewbery: postponing tomorrows wallet meeting sounds sensible yep
4352019-02-21T20:14:38  <wumpus> what caused the lack of interest in the meting ? is there anything special this week?
4362019-02-21T20:15:12  <sipa> wumpus: number of people at financial crypto
4372019-02-21T20:15:32  <sipa> (BlueMatt, sdaftuar, cfields_, me, ...)
4382019-02-21T20:15:51  <sipa> after this week i have no travel plans for a few months
4392019-02-21T20:16:38  <wumpus> right! thanks
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4422019-02-21T20:30:52  <jamesob> "i have no travel plans for a few months" bet you're excited sipa
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4472019-02-21T20:59:38  <dongcarl> jonasschnelli: Any thoughts on this: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8888#issuecomment-457003118, I might remove #8888 from the board since it's really old (but has a very lucky issue number!)
4482019-02-21T20:59:40  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/8888 | CConnman: Remove some global usage in the gui by theuni · Pull Request #8888 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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4542019-02-21T21:15:44  <jonasschnelli> sry. missed the meeting
4552019-02-21T21:16:14  <wumpus> heh it wasn't much anyway
4562019-02-21T21:16:26  <jonasschnelli> just saw that it was pretty short...
4572019-02-21T21:16:51  <jonasschnelli> dongcarl: no real thoughts on that. But I think it would be nice if you pick it up
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4632019-02-21T21:41:15  <dongcarl> Cool
4642019-02-21T21:41:43  <dongcarl> I'm seeking context on libevent in bitcoin
4652019-02-21T21:42:17  <dongcarl> it seems that for the node, we had select only, then pstrateman implemented poll
4662019-02-21T21:43:02  <dongcarl> I see that libevent is being pulled in as a dependency for the RPC server as well
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4682019-02-21T21:44:15  <dongcarl> But  #11227 for node socket handling wasn't completed.
4692019-02-21T21:44:17  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11227 | WIP: switch to libevent for node socket handling by theuni · Pull Request #11227 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4702019-02-21T21:44:49  <dongcarl> Do people still think this is valuable/worth doing?
4712019-02-21T21:45:01  <jamesob> dongcarl: my impression is that (i) long-term we'd like to use libevent in lieu of poll() but (ii) it will require more substantial net refactoring and (iii) there are probably additional considerations around the use of another external library for something so critical - e.g. might be prudent to maintain our own fork a la leveldb
4722019-02-21T21:45:51  <jamesob> AFAIK poll() was a sort of mid-state along the way to libevent that didn't require as much code churn
4732019-02-21T21:46:50  <dongcarl> jamesob: Right, that makes a lot of sense.
4742019-02-21T21:47:10  <dongcarl> Poor BSD folks, no kqueue for so long
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4762019-02-21T21:47:35  <jamesob> better than a broken kqueue implementation *cough*Darwin*cough* :)
4772019-02-21T21:47:50  <dongcarl> lol
4782019-02-21T21:48:04  <dongcarl> I remember hearing about libev used somewhere in bitcoin
4792019-02-21T21:48:08  <dongcarl> But I might be imagining things
4802019-02-21T21:48:52  <dongcarl> Nothing in issues or PR, must be from my dreams
4812019-02-21T21:50:05  <jarthur> There are some non-Core softwares out there that use it. cbitcoin and libbitc
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4832019-02-21T21:52:35  <dongcarl> jarthur: libev you mean?
4842019-02-21T21:52:40  <jarthur> yes
4852019-02-21T21:55:10  <dongcarl> Right, from skimming the two libraries I think libev is probably more minimal and (supposedly) better designed, but it'd be another depedency :-/
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4882019-02-21T22:07:28  <jamesob> dongcarl: confusingly there's also "libuv" (which looks way too bloated for us)
4892019-02-21T22:08:34  <dongcarl> jamesob: Yeah. I want to try out libev. It actually has a "libevent emulation layer" which might be a good step to switching.
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4912019-02-21T22:08:53  <dongcarl> According to http://libev.schmorp.de/bench.html you just switch out the header file
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