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152 2019-06-20T09:44:32  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] NicolasDorier opened pull request #16248: [WIP] Make whitebind/whitelist permissions more flexible (master...feature/permissions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16248
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155 2019-06-20T09:46:03  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] NicolasDorier closed pull request #16176: Allow NODE_BLOOM services for whitelisted peers (master...feature/node-bloom-whitelisted) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16176
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204 2019-06-20T11:45:21  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ajtowns opened pull request #16250: signrawtransactionwithkey: report error when missing redeemScript/witnessScript (master...201906-signrawerror-regression) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16250
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222 2019-06-20T12:45:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ajtowns opened pull request #16251: Improve signrawtransaction error reporting (master...201906-signrawerror) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16251
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234 2019-06-20T13:14:41  <fanquake> I’m quite unwell, so won’t be up at the meeting. +1 for 2FA. Ideally not text message based.
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238 2019-06-20T13:20:00  <fanquake> #proposedmeetingtopic ASN blob discussion that was missed at the end of last meeting. Assuming sipa and bluematt are available.
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242 2019-06-20T13:41:27  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #16252: test: Log to debug.log in all unit tests (master...1905-bufferLog) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16252
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287 2019-06-20T15:46:00  <MarcoFalke> Anyone knows how to report scams to duckduckgo? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bitcoin+core+release+notes
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289 2019-06-20T15:46:15  <MarcoFalke> returns "bitcoincorewallet org" as third result
290 2019-06-20T15:46:33  <MarcoFalke> obviously malware
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333 2019-06-20T16:33:34  <moneyball> MarcoFalke not sure but perhaps https://twitter.com/duckduckgo? although I think you said you quit Twitter.  I can report it. Do we have evidence of malware? Or should I just say it looks suspicious?
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340 2019-06-20T16:49:43  <MarcoFalke> Download any of the .exe or .zip and compare the hash
341 2019-06-20T16:50:18  <MarcoFalke> Even if the hash matched, it is not our website and not the official download location
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345 2019-06-20T16:55:06  <moneyball> https://twitter.com/moneyball/status/1141751255070416897
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356 2019-06-20T17:04:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #16192: Wallet: Catches situations where capping on maxtxfee drops the fee too low (master...issue-10122) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16192
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359 2019-06-20T17:05:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke reopened pull request #16192: Wallet: Catches situations where capping on maxtxfee drops the fee too low (master...issue-10122) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16192
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365 2019-06-20T17:17:31  <MarcoFalke> moneyball: thx
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376 2019-06-20T17:41:24  <BlueMatt> lol 3 dnsseeds have broken ipv6 resolvers.......
377 2019-06-20T17:43:24  <moneyball> fyi i also emailed abuse@ and cc'd MarcoFalke
378 2019-06-20T17:43:33  <BlueMatt> thanks moneyball!
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381 2019-06-20T17:51:34  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #16254: qt: Set AA_EnableHighDpiScaling attribute early (master...20190620-EnableHighDpiScaling-warning) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16254
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383 2019-06-20T17:53:25  <BlueMatt> sipa: maybe your seeder is broken for resolving over v6?
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385 2019-06-20T17:56:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #16255: util: Remove code to cache datadir (master...1906-utilNoPath) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16255
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387 2019-06-20T17:58:36  <sipa> BlueMatt: it seems the vps it's running on doesn't have a v6 ip address :s
388 2019-06-20T17:59:04  <BlueMatt> sipa: no, I mean the software
389 2019-06-20T17:59:15  <BlueMatt> sipa: cause it seems several others have v6 issues and theirs does
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391 2019-06-20T18:00:04  <sipa> BlueMatt: my seeder has v6 addresses, but they're all marked "bad"
392 2019-06-20T18:00:24  <sipa> so i suspect that's why it's not reporting any over dns
393 2019-06-20T18:00:26  <BlueMatt> sipa: nonono, I mean the seeder software responding to dns queries over v6
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395 2019-06-20T18:01:17  <sipa> it's responding for me, just with an empty result
396 2019-06-20T18:01:36  <sipa> $ dig -t AAAA @bitcoin.sipa.be seed.bitcoin.sipa.be
397 2019-06-20T18:01:59  <BlueMatt> sipa: noooo
398 2019-06-20T18:02:11  <BlueMatt> I mean $ dig @(bitcoin.sipa.be's ipv6 address) seed.bitcoin.sipa.be
399 2019-06-20T18:02:43  <luke-jr> in my case, I don't want to run the seeder as root, so I have a NAT from port 53 to 1053, but my server doesn't support NAT for IPV6
400 2019-06-20T18:03:00  <luke-jr> removed the AAAA record for the NS for now
401 2019-06-20T18:03:03  <sipa> BlueMatt: ... my server has no IPv6 address
402 2019-06-20T18:03:09  <BlueMatt> yea, you're different, mostly I see that (at least) emzy's and jonasschnelli's servers dont respond
403 2019-06-20T18:03:18  <BlueMatt> sipa: yes...I'm asking about the software (which other seeders run)
404 2019-06-20T18:03:36  <sipa> ah ok, it seems there are two distinct problems
405 2019-06-20T18:04:30  <luke-jr> BlueMatt: the software is listening to IPv6 1053 for me
406 2019-06-20T18:04:56  <BlueMatt> luke-jr: can you try to resolve via that?
407 2019-06-20T18:07:24  <phantomcircuit> BlueMatt, hi
408 2019-06-20T18:07:46  <BlueMatt> you rang?
409 2019-06-20T18:07:56  <luke-jr> dig -p 1053 @2001:470:88ff:2e::1 AAAA dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org
410 2019-06-20T18:07:57  <luke-jr> seems to work
411 2019-06-20T18:08:22  <BlueMatt> ah weird, maybe something specific about the version/setup on emzy and jonasschnelli's ends :/
412 2019-06-20T18:08:51  <hebasto> MarcoFalke: in #16254 should we follow qt docs: "Supported platforms are X11, Windows and Android."? I mean no mention of macOS.
413 2019-06-20T18:08:52  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16254 | qt: Set AA_EnableHighDpiScaling attribute early by hebasto · Pull Request #16254 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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415 2019-06-20T18:09:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #16255: util: Remove code to cache datadir (master...1906-utilNoPath) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16255
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417 2019-06-20T18:10:01  <jonasschnelli> Yeah. It's the NAT
418 2019-06-20T18:10:03  <jonasschnelli> dig -p 5353 @2604:a880:2:d0::469c:c001 AAAA seed.bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch
419 2019-06-20T18:10:05  <jonasschnelli> works as well
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421 2019-06-20T18:10:45  <jonasschnelli> I do iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp --dport 53 -j REDIRECT --to-port 5353
422 2019-06-20T18:10:59  <BlueMatt> ah, should be able to do that for v6 too
423 2019-06-20T18:11:31  <BlueMatt> "IPv6 support available starting Linux kernels >= 3.7." (for REDIRECT)
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425 2019-06-20T18:12:31  <jonasschnelli> I guess I need ip6tables
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430 2019-06-20T18:15:02  <BlueMatt> indeed
431 2019-06-20T18:15:46  <jonasschnelli> instead of the stupid NAT, why don't allow the dnsseed user to use UDP 53 directly?
432 2019-06-20T18:15:56  <jonasschnelli> (should also work without root)
433 2019-06-20T18:16:17  <luke-jr> ?
434 2019-06-20T18:16:39  <luke-jr> Linux doesn't allow non-root to listen below 1024
435 2019-06-20T18:16:43  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: we do the NAT to avoid running the seeder as root
436 2019-06-20T18:16:51  <jonasschnelli> setcap?
437 2019-06-20T18:17:26  <BlueMatt> bind + drop
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439 2019-06-20T18:18:21  <luke-jr> dunno why Linux doesn't add a way to assign ports to specific users :/
440 2019-06-20T18:18:39  <luke-jr> that would also be nice to block other users from binding the Bitcoin JSON-RPC port
441 2019-06-20T18:19:33  <BlueMatt> you could use inetd, no?
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444 2019-06-20T18:21:18  <jonasschnelli> solved....
445 2019-06-20T18:21:23  <jonasschnelli> dig -p 53 @2604:a880:2:d0::469c:c001 AAAA seed.bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch <--- works now
446 2019-06-20T18:21:47  <jonasschnelli> (testnet seed as well)
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449 2019-06-20T18:24:39  <phantomcircuit> luke-jr, you can with the power of selinux
450 2019-06-20T18:24:41  * phantomcircuit runs
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452 2019-06-20T18:26:45  <gertjaap> are there any docs on how to run the linters and checks that travis does locally before committing? i hate to bother reviewers with stuff that i should've caught before committing.
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454 2019-06-20T18:28:56  <gertjaap> if i run test/lint/lint-all.sh it does catch the whitespace errors from my PR, but also a whole bunch of other stuff like unused functions and spelling errors.
455 2019-06-20T18:31:57  <gertjaap> https://gist.github.com/gertjaap/6abe29c49a84b64e179fd093a6e7579a
456 2019-06-20T18:32:05  <luke-jr> check the exit code
457 2019-06-20T18:32:35  <sipa> BlueMatt: ok, i have an IPv6 address!
458 2019-06-20T18:33:05  <sipa> (i had it all along, but apparantly i had to configure it as a static ip on the system)
459 2019-06-20T18:33:27  <luke-jr> ISPs are supposed to give you a /48 subnet :P
460 2019-06-20T18:34:46  <BlueMatt> sipa: lol nice
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462 2019-06-20T18:38:32  <sipa> BlueMatt: does it work now?
463 2019-06-20T18:39:39  <sipa> i expect not
464 2019-06-20T18:41:09  <BlueMatt> sipa: I'm on a plane....things r slow....
465 2019-06-20T18:41:15  <sipa> ha
466 2019-06-20T18:42:41  <BlueMatt> sipa: I dont get a response from 2607:5300:201:3100::3b74
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468 2019-06-20T18:48:08  <sipa> bleh
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470 2019-06-20T18:56:23  <sipa> ok, now my seeder is actually returning ipv6 addresses when requested
471 2019-06-20T18:56:30  <sipa> still not available over ipv6 itself
472 2019-06-20T18:59:15  <jonasschnelli> sipa: do you do port forwarding to avoid running it as root?
473 2019-06-20T18:59:30  <sipa> yes
474 2019-06-20T18:59:52  <jonasschnelli> so you either need ip6tables forwarding or switch back to port 53
475 2019-06-20T19:00:17  <sipa> yes
476 2019-06-20T19:00:17  <jonasschnelli> sudo setcap 'cap_net_bind_service=+ep' /path/to/dnsseeder
477 2019-06-20T19:00:31  <jonasschnelli> would allow to occupy port 53 without root
478 2019-06-20T19:00:33  <sipa> i use ip6tables, but apparently not correctly :)
479 2019-06-20T19:01:09  <wumpus> #startmeeting
480 2019-06-20T19:01:09  <lightningbot> Meeting started Thu Jun 20 19:01:09 2019 UTC.  The chair is wumpus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
481 2019-06-20T19:01:09  <lightningbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
482 2019-06-20T19:01:13  <sipa> hello
483 2019-06-20T19:01:17  <jeremyrubin> hi
484 2019-06-20T19:01:31  <jonasschnelli> hi
485 2019-06-20T19:01:45  <wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101 meshcollider jnewbery maaku fanquake promag provoostenator aj Chris_Stewart_5 dongcarl gwillen jamesob ken281221 ryanofsky gleb moneyball kvaciral
486 2019-06-20T19:01:53  <achow101> hi
487 2019-06-20T19:01:57  <meshcollider> hi
488 2019-06-20T19:02:20  <wumpus> two topics proposed in https://gist.github.com/moneyball/071d608fdae217c2a6d7c35955881d8a : Bitcoin core PR review club, ASN blob discussion
489 2019-06-20T19:02:44  <kanzure> hi
490 2019-06-20T19:02:46  <wumpus> also maybe we want to discuss the travis issue again
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492 2019-06-20T19:04:03  <meshcollider> Also 2FA discussion from fanquake
493 2019-06-20T19:04:08  <moneyball> hi
494 2019-06-20T19:04:09  <wumpus> #topic High priority for review
495 2019-06-20T19:04:51  <wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8   5 blockers, 2 bugfixes and 6(!) things chasing concept ack
496 2019-06-20T19:05:13  <wumpus> anything to add/remove this week ?
497 2019-06-20T19:05:34  <jnewbery> hi
498 2019-06-20T19:07:21  <wumpus> ok, apparently nothing to discuss in regard to that
499 2019-06-20T19:07:50  <wumpus> #topic Bitcoin Core PR review club (jnewbery)
500 2019-06-20T19:08:03  <jnewbery> Thanks wumpus
501 2019-06-20T19:08:07  <wumpus> https://bitcoin-core-review-club.github.io/
502 2019-06-20T19:08:09  <jnewbery> I just wanted to give an update on the Bitcoin Core Review Club (https://bitcoin-core-review-club.github.io/) that we've been doing for the last couple of months.
503 2019-06-20T19:08:18  <jnewbery> We've got a solid group of attendees every week, and some of them are commenting on and reviewing PRs in github, so I think it's been reasonably successful so far.
504 2019-06-20T19:08:39  <jnewbery> If anyone wants to get involved, we have IRC meetings at 17:00 UTC on Wednesdays. Appearances from established contributors are always appreciated.
505 2019-06-20T19:08:45  <jonasschnelli> thanks for doing this jnewbery!
506 2019-06-20T19:09:01  <jnewbery> If you have any friends who are less experienced and want to get into Bitcoin Core development, you should send them along
507 2019-06-20T19:09:15  <wumpus> yes, great!
508 2019-06-20T19:09:31  <jnewbery> I'm away for the next couple of weeks and I'm looking for one or two volunteer hosts, so please message me if you're interested
509 2019-06-20T19:09:38  <meshcollider> Very cool, I would definitely come if it wasn't at 5am haha
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511 2019-06-20T19:10:21  <jnewbery> oh, and finally, if you have any suggested PRs for us to cover, please message me also. We're looking for stuff that doesn't require too much esoteric knowledge and is a reasonable size (perhaps ~100 LOC)
512 2019-06-20T19:10:26  <jnewbery> that's all. Thanks!
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514 2019-06-20T19:10:36  <BlueMatt> can we do asns? I want to take a nap
515 2019-06-20T19:10:37  <wumpus> thanks jnewbery
516 2019-06-20T19:10:43  <BlueMatt> also, +1 thanks jnewbery
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518 2019-06-20T19:10:53  <wumpus> #topic ASN blobs (BlueMatt)
519 2019-06-20T19:11:00  <BlueMatt> well maybe sipa can introduce
520 2019-06-20T19:11:09  <BlueMatt> but the idea is, basically, why are we bucketing by /16s
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522 2019-06-20T19:11:25  <BlueMatt> its an easy hack, but there's lots of isps with way more than /16s and lots with way less
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524 2019-06-20T19:11:33  <sipa> to give some context
525 2019-06-20T19:11:35  <BlueMatt> our goal, really, is to capture diversity of isps/hosting providers
526 2019-06-20T19:12:09  <BlueMatt> we also have seen several groups of spy nodes/large-connection-farms from several different places, but, all together, they originate from < 10 isps
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528 2019-06-20T19:12:15  <BlueMatt> despite being a *ton* of ips
529 2019-06-20T19:12:33  <sipa> we're currently "grouping" certain IP ranges into groups, to make decisions such as whether to make multiple connections to the same range or not, prioritize incoming connections from distinct groups, and control which addrman buckets IPs go into (under the theory that an attacker has a hard time controlling many groups, sybil resistance is improved)
530 2019-06-20T19:12:41  <sipa> right now, those are just /16 groups
531 2019-06-20T19:12:45  <sipa> for most things
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533 2019-06-20T19:13:13  <sipa> but /16 is a really naive choice; some ISPs control very large ranges, some very small ones
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535 2019-06-20T19:13:54  <sipa> an obvious improvement is to have a map built-in to bitcoin core that tells what the actual independent network ranges are
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539 2019-06-20T19:14:33  <wumpus> so the practical problem would be how to include enough of this data to be useful, but without adding too much data to the executable size
540 2019-06-20T19:14:37  <luke-jr> BlueMatt: don't ASNs change?
541 2019-06-20T19:14:41  <sipa> so i've been working on seeing how large such a map for real internet data would be, and it turns out we can pack it in around 1 MB, and still efficiently look things up in it
542 2019-06-20T19:14:49  <BlueMatt> luke-jr: sure, but not a *lot*
543 2019-06-20T19:14:50  <wumpus> yes, they change, it'd be at most an approximation at the time of release
544 2019-06-20T19:14:56  <luke-jr> and even if the same ISP owns a big range, that range may be very diverse?
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546 2019-06-20T19:15:09  <wumpus> but that's good enough
547 2019-06-20T19:15:27  <BlueMatt> diverse how? against any practical attacks that grouping helps prevent, not diverse at all (mitms, sybils, etc)
548 2019-06-20T19:15:37  <wumpus> we don't really want to include all the data in our github repo though
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550 2019-06-20T19:16:04  <luke-jr> BlueMatt: depends on the attack I guess
551 2019-06-20T19:16:06  <wumpus> so I guess this is some kind of challenge for the deterministic builds
552 2019-06-20T19:16:12  <BlueMatt> well we could incoporate a text file dump of a routing table into the build process
553 2019-06-20T19:16:13  <BlueMatt> thats not too hard
554 2019-06-20T19:16:24  <sipa> so i've used a dump from BGP (which is... a gigabyte or so) to extract a mapping from prefixes to ASNs, and then developed a custom packed format to store just the mapping
555 2019-06-20T19:16:33  <wumpus> yes, but it should be determinstic per version, without including it into the repo itself
556 2019-06-20T19:16:54  <luke-jr> we don't actually need the ASNs though, right? just some logic to decide whether to group by /16, /24, /8, etc
557 2019-06-20T19:17:10  <BlueMatt> indeed, we'd have to agree on a source (we could use my dumps, or get them from one of several others who provide dumps, or get output from anyone's bird router)
558 2019-06-20T19:17:12  <sipa> luke-jr: correct; though consistency matters for things like addrman
559 2019-06-20T19:17:13  <wumpus> that does add some requirements, maybe it's not hard, but it's also not something we've done before
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561 2019-06-20T19:17:24  <sipa> as we don't want to change what number each range maps to too frequently
562 2019-06-20T19:17:27  <luke-jr> although maybe some ISPs have multiple subnets
563 2019-06-20T19:17:32  <sipa> and ASN numbers are small
564 2019-06-20T19:17:44  <sipa> (most are below 2^16, all are below 350000 or so)
565 2019-06-20T19:17:50  <wumpus> luke-jr:yes, quite a few ISPs have non-consecutive subnets
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567 2019-06-20T19:18:02  <sipa> luke-jr: indeed, and that's actually by design
568 2019-06-20T19:18:08  <sipa> this would give most of AWS one number
569 2019-06-20T19:18:21  <BlueMatt> hmm, is there some attack whereby someone just flips their asn every 6 months per release and gets into several buckets? I mean at most you'd get one per six months
570 2019-06-20T19:18:32  <sipa> yeah, it's not terrible
571 2019-06-20T19:18:37  <sipa> just better to be consistent when possible
572 2019-06-20T19:18:41  <BlueMatt> which i guess is also plenty of time to register a new asn, buy some ips, and sell the old ones
573 2019-06-20T19:19:05  <sipa> so i think a question for here is, what binary size increase is acceptable and/or is it a separate file with the map that can be replaced?
574 2019-06-20T19:19:26  <BlueMatt> separate file seems ideal to me, but that has deployment concerns
575 2019-06-20T19:19:43  <BlueMatt> I dont think we could realistically say "take this file that shipped with bitcoin core and copy it to your datadir on first run"
576 2019-06-20T19:19:46  <sipa> and what kind of auditing is necessary for it... not everyone is able to extract a BGP dump and compare the result (and it wouldn't be consistent across dumps anyway)
577 2019-06-20T19:20:09  <BlueMatt> we could get my dump, and a few other dumps and have a tool to compare them?
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579 2019-06-20T19:20:18  <BlueMatt> there's several providers, so it should be doable
580 2019-06-20T19:20:20  <sipa> just a text list of prefix -> ASN mappings is just a few MB
581 2019-06-20T19:20:27  <sipa> when gzipped
582 2019-06-20T19:20:31  <BlueMatt> eg you could get a bunch of dumps from https://rt-bgp.he.net/
583 2019-06-20T19:20:45  <BlueMatt> (including mine, indirectly)
584 2019-06-20T19:21:18  <sipa> so opinions?
585 2019-06-20T19:21:36  <luke-jr> maybe we should only do it for 4 of the 8 peers?
586 2019-06-20T19:21:36  <BlueMatt> well I guess two hard proposals, pick one:
587 2019-06-20T19:21:40  <BlueMatt> a) build it into the binary
588 2019-06-20T19:21:41  <luke-jr> in case ther'es a way to game it
589 2019-06-20T19:21:59  <BlueMatt> b) ship a file and (1) look in datadir, (2) if not there, look in the folder where bitcoind is being run from.
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591 2019-06-20T19:22:10  <BlueMatt> b) (3) if not, print warning and fall back to /16s
592 2019-06-20T19:22:15  <achow101> is it possible to do both? i.e. build it in and have a separate file in datador
593 2019-06-20T19:22:22  <sipa> yeah
594 2019-06-20T19:22:26  <jnewbery> I'd say not (a). We don't want to add a MB of data to the repo
595 2019-06-20T19:22:26  <achow101> so datadir file overrides built in
596 2019-06-20T19:22:41  <jnewbery> do we want people to be able to override?
597 2019-06-20T19:22:42  <BlueMatt> right, but its mostly a binary size question
598 2019-06-20T19:22:44  <sipa> jnewbery: but the distribution should still include it
599 2019-06-20T19:22:49  <wumpus> well the build could fetch it somewhere else, it doesn't need to be in the repo
600 2019-06-20T19:22:56  <jb55> why does it have to be in-tree? couldn't it be a dependency?
601 2019-06-20T19:22:58  <jnewbery> yes, i think the distribution should include it
602 2019-06-20T19:22:58  <jb55> yeah
603 2019-06-20T19:22:59  <wumpus> it definitely shouldn't be *
604 2019-06-20T19:23:01  <BlueMatt> jnewbery: doesnt *technically* have to be in the repo
605 2019-06-20T19:23:13  <luke-jr> BlueMatt: data files shouldn't be in bin/
606 2019-06-20T19:23:14  <BlueMatt> it could be in the binary without that, as a separate input to gitian
607 2019-06-20T19:23:43  <BlueMatt> luke-jr: if you're using a distribution, it should install it appropriately, if you're downloading the targz, then it can be wherever
608 2019-06-20T19:24:00  <luke-jr> BlueMatt: datadir is per-user, so can't install there
609 2019-06-20T19:24:44  <BlueMatt> further opinions?
610 2019-06-20T19:25:11  <jnewbery> Do we want people to be able to supply their own. I think no
611 2019-06-20T19:25:21  <BlueMatt> luke-jr: sure, that doesnt mean its not allowed to be there? there's also a copy of the chain there, which is not per-user :p
612 2019-06-20T19:25:21  <sipa> jnewbery: i see no reason not to allow that
613 2019-06-20T19:25:41  <luke-jr> BlueMatt: it means the distro can't install it there
614 2019-06-20T19:25:54  <sipa> we'd have the scripts to build the blob from a list of mappings in contrib/ i guess
615 2019-06-20T19:26:06  <wumpus> could have an argument to point to where it is
616 2019-06-20T19:26:19  <BlueMatt> yes, definitely have to make it possible to generate your own, given the input is otherwise hard to audit
617 2019-06-20T19:26:32  <BlueMatt> luke-jr: yes, hence an option like -look-in-var
618 2019-06-20T19:26:51  <wumpus> datadir would only be the default, like it is for other things too unless overridden
619 2019-06-20T19:27:55  <luke-jr> so force distros to patch it?
620 2019-06-20T19:27:59  <wumpus> but I think we're very much getting into specific implementation details now
621 2019-06-20T19:28:00  <jnewbery> because then bad people might supply a bogus network.dat (or whatever) file and tell people to use it
622 2019-06-20T19:28:28  <wumpus> well that's true for any file, like peers.dat too
623 2019-06-20T19:28:39  <gwillen> I think you could limit the damage a bad network.dat could do by putting sanity checks on it
624 2019-06-20T19:28:40  <wumpus> or like a malicious wallet
625 2019-06-20T19:28:52  <gwillen> e.g. no aggregating the entire internet into a single "ASN", that sort of thing
626 2019-06-20T19:28:53  <sipa> wumpus: are you talking about having it always as a separate file (which may be sourced from several locations), or having it built into the binary (with the option to source it from elsewhere)
627 2019-06-20T19:28:55  <wumpus> if you get people to install bogus files into their datadir it's kind of bad
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629 2019-06-20T19:29:24  <BlueMatt> (hopefully, many of these classes of attacks can be further limited by better peer eviction logic, so hopefully thats not *that* easy)
630 2019-06-20T19:29:33  <wumpus> sipa: the latter, I think
631 2019-06-20T19:29:43  <harding> Perhaps it should start as a separate file and then, later, if it's working well it can be considered for direct inclusion in the binary.
632 2019-06-20T19:29:55  <wumpus> sipa: I'm ok with including the data in the distributed binary, I just don't want it in the repository
633 2019-06-20T19:30:00  <sipa> ok fair
634 2019-06-20T19:30:02  <wumpus> harding: good point too
635 2019-06-20T19:30:13  <wumpus> first add support for this
636 2019-06-20T19:30:16  <wumpus> then the rest later
637 2019-06-20T19:31:53  <sipa> yeah
638 2019-06-20T19:33:02  <wumpus> #topic Requiring 2FA for bitcoin orgs on GH (fanquake)
639 2019-06-20T19:33:35  <jonasschnelli> I guess I we should disable sms 2fa recovery...
640 2019-06-20T19:33:49  <luke-jr> eh, maybe for people with push? it doesn't really matter for most of us
641 2019-06-20T19:34:13  <luke-jr> GH doesn't even check 2FA all that often either
642 2019-06-20T19:34:15  <BlueMatt> i mean push is pgp-signed (at least in theory)
643 2019-06-20T19:34:19  <BlueMatt> matters most for acks
644 2019-06-20T19:34:22  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: so is that possible on an organization?
645 2019-06-20T19:34:37  <BlueMatt> but, yea, I think I've not had to re-login to github in...years?
646 2019-06-20T19:34:42  <jonasschnelli> no... I think need to be done on an individual level
647 2019-06-20T19:34:45  <luke-jr> BlueMatt: GitHub being trusted with ACKs is a problem in itself :x
648 2019-06-20T19:34:57  <BlueMatt> indeed
649 2019-06-20T19:36:02  * jeremyrubin acks on the blockchain
650 2019-06-20T19:36:13  <luke-jr> (why nobody sees it)
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653 2019-06-20T19:37:00  <wumpus> I don't think there's actually much to discuss here: in any case, if you read this and haven't enabled 2FA please do so if possible
654 2019-06-20T19:37:21  <jonasschnelli> Yes. And disable phone 2fa recovery
655 2019-06-20T19:37:45  <jonasschnelli> (probably use FIDO key and recovery code for backup)
656 2019-06-20T19:38:32  <wumpus> ok, any other topics? I think we're through
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658 2019-06-20T19:39:30  <phantomcircuit> jonasschnelli, at an organization level you can only enforce that some form of 2fa is enabled, not which type
659 2019-06-20T19:41:15  <sipa> oh also short reminder we're going to meet with github tomorrow, if there are any things we should bring up, see https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15847
660 2019-06-20T19:44:08  <wumpus> good to know sipa
661 2019-06-20T19:44:20  <wumpus> thanks everyone
662 2019-06-20T19:44:21  <wumpus> #endmeeting
663 2019-06-20T19:44:21  <lightningbot> Meeting ended Thu Jun 20 19:44:21 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
664 2019-06-20T19:44:21  <lightningbot> Minutes:        http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2019/bitcoin-core-dev.2019-06-20-19.01.html
665 2019-06-20T19:44:21  <lightningbot> Minutes (text): http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2019/bitcoin-core-dev.2019-06-20-19.01.txt
666 2019-06-20T19:44:21  <lightningbot> Log:            http://www.erisian.com.au/meetbot/bitcoin-core-dev/2019/bitcoin-core-dev.2019-06-20-19.01.log.html
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668 2019-06-20T19:47:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/413e438ea976...9c95515ba034
669 2019-06-20T19:47:59  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa00326 MarcoFalke: ci: Run extended tests
670 2019-06-20T19:47:59  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9c95515 MarcoFalke: Merge #15520: cirrus: Run extended test feature_pruning
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673 2019-06-20T19:48:37  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #15520: cirrus: Run extended test feature_pruning (master...1903-ciExt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15520
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675 2019-06-20T19:53:11  <achow101> meshcollider: sipa: I've been working on implementing the scriptpubkeymanager  and I noticed a bunch of things related to key generation rely on the wallet version and wallet flags. Thoughts on how to handle those without introducing a circular dependency?
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678 2019-06-20T19:58:02  <sipa> achow101: expose some options in the LegacySPKMAnager (or whatever you call the instance of it that encapsulated the current ismine/keypool/...), as constructor arguments, and at wallet creation pass the flags down as options to it?
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680 2019-06-20T20:01:05  <achow101> there happen to be some things that can happen after a wallet is loaded that can change the flags though. also the flags aren't necessarily loaded when legacyspkmanager is created
681 2019-06-20T20:01:14  <achow101> I supposed a pointer would work?
682 2019-06-20T20:03:52  <sipa> maybe, but be careful about locking
683 2019-06-20T20:04:09  <sipa> spkmamagers won't have access to a wallet's locks probably
684 2019-06-20T20:04:36  <achow101> right
685 2019-06-20T20:05:19  <achow101> also a minor problem with wallet.h defining the flags but including it in any of the spkmanager files results in a circular dependency
686 2019-06-20T20:05:21  <sipa> if the only way to change a wallet's property is through a setter method, that method can just delegate to calling the legacyspkmanager's corresponding setter
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708 2019-06-20T21:00:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9c95515ba034...ea45967e856d
709 2019-06-20T21:00:19  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa7dd88 MarcoFalke: test: Add test for unknown args
710 2019-06-20T21:00:19  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ea45967 MarcoFalke: Merge #16234: test: Add test for unknown args
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713 2019-06-20T21:01:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #16234: test: Add test for unknown args (master...1906-unknownArgs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16234
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724 2019-06-20T21:40:07  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ea45967e856d...b4ad4c0de30f
725 2019-06-20T21:40:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9218ce8 Aseem Sood: Failing functional tests stop lcov
726 2019-06-20T21:40:07  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b4ad4c0 MarcoFalke: Merge #16207: test: stop generating lcov coverage when functional tests fa...
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729 2019-06-20T21:41:02  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #16207: test: stop generating lcov coverage when functional tests fail (master...patch-15648) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16207
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733 2019-06-20T21:41:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b4ad4c0de30f...23815ee74dfd
734 2019-06-20T21:41:52  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master eb832cd nicolas.dorier: MSVC: Fix error in debug mode (Fix #16245)
735 2019-06-20T21:41:53  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 23815ee MarcoFalke: Merge #16246: MSVC: Fix error in debug mode (Fix #16245)
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739 2019-06-20T21:42:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #16246: MSVC: Fix error in debug mode (Fix #16245) (master...fix/bigobj) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16246
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