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  6 2019-11-13T00:06:32  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #17458: Refactor OutputGroup effective value calculations and filtering to occur within the struct (master...cleanup-outputgroups) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17458
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 55 2019-11-13T03:31:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #17461: test: check custom descedant limit in mempool_packages.py (master...20191112-test-check_custom_descendant_limit_in_mempool-packages) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17461
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123 2019-11-13T09:21:34  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8237889e8d0f...cd6cb9745e13
124 2019-11-13T09:21:35  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fab9850 MarcoFalke: scripted-diff: Avoid hardcoded libfaketime dir in gitian
125 2019-11-13T09:21:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3333629 MarcoFalke: doc: Explain $LIB in LD_PRELOAD in gitian descriptors
126 2019-11-13T09:21:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cd6cb97 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #17409: build: Avoid hardcoded libfaketime dir in gitian
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129 2019-11-13T09:21:53  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #17409: build: Avoid hardcoded libfaketime dir in gitian (master...1911-gitianArm64) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17409
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144 2019-11-13T10:23:14  <JeremyCrookshank> What does everyone use to develop on Bitcoin with? Visual studio code?
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182 2019-11-13T13:04:00  <jonatack> JeremyCrookshank: why not, fwiw i know several who use vim and also have seen emacs and atom used
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225 2019-11-13T16:46:06  <MarcoFalke> <JeremyCrookshank> What does everyone use to develop on Bitcoin with? Visual studio code?
226 2019-11-13T16:46:21  <MarcoFalke> I use vanilla vim, sipa uses mcedit: https://twitter.com/pwuille/status/1192141975358541825, not sure about others
227 2019-11-13T16:48:34  <sipa> real programmers use emacs: https://xkcd.com/378/
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232 2019-11-13T17:05:57  <jonatack> afaik achow101 uses atom, jnewbery, ariard, MarcoFalke, and (iirc) ryanofsky use vim (atm i use emacs)
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234 2019-11-13T17:06:33  <jonatack> clearly they can all do the job :)
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251 2019-11-13T17:51:01  <instagibbs> i see im too late for the minecraft joke
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257 2019-11-13T18:07:15  <luke-jr> JeremyCrookshank: I use Kate
258 2019-11-13T18:07:35  <JeremyCrookshank> Not heard of that one
259 2019-11-13T18:08:18  <elichai2> I use CLion and i'm not ashamed :P
260 2019-11-13T18:08:30  <luke-jr> JeremyCrookshank: KDE's Advanced Text Editor
261 2019-11-13T18:09:08  <luke-jr> https://kate-editor.org/
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264 2019-11-13T18:13:06  <JeremyCrookshank> Also not heard of clion
265 2019-11-13T18:13:55  <JeremyCrookshank> I suppose nowadays most of these editors are the same :P
266 2019-11-13T18:14:28  <sipa> nah, they're all very different in appearance ans features
267 2019-11-13T18:14:52  <sipa> but it depends way more on your own way of working
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269 2019-11-13T18:15:19  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #17466: depends: qt: Fix C{,XX} pickup (master...2019-11-qt-CC-CXX-pickup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17466
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272 2019-11-13T18:16:22  <JeremyCrookshank> elichai2 clion looks decent what's the stigma?
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280 2019-11-13T18:27:16  <sipa> jonasschnelli: real_or_random and i jad some thoughts on simplifying future upgrades in the v2 protocol, ping me when you have some time
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282 2019-11-13T18:28:57  <elichai2> JeremyCrookshank: the stigma is that real devs use vim/emacs :)
283 2019-11-13T18:29:40  <sipa> real devs use butterflies
284 2019-11-13T18:29:51  <sipa> who cares
285 2019-11-13T18:34:07  <midnight> ĀµEmacs overlords
286 2019-11-13T18:36:33  <luke-jr> elichai2: Kate does have a VI Mode
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289 2019-11-13T18:49:37  <MarcoFalke> clion has a vi mode, but it feels wrong to vanilla vim
290 2019-11-13T18:50:13  <luke-jr> well, vim isn't vi :P
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299 2019-11-13T19:07:08  <jamesob> anyone ever apply lock annotations to a lambda? is possible?
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301 2019-11-13T19:07:26  <MarcoFalke> jamesob: no not possible
302 2019-11-13T19:07:30  <jamesob> dammit
303 2019-11-13T19:07:37  <MarcoFalke> You'd have to use AssertLockHeld
304 2019-11-13T19:07:56  <MarcoFalke> jamesob: It is not possible because you can pass the lambda into a different translation unit
305 2019-11-13T19:08:01  <MarcoFalke> I don't think clang can handle that
306 2019-11-13T19:08:07  <JeremyCrookshank> why you want to
307 2019-11-13T19:08:29  <MarcoFalke> JeremyCrookshank: Anywhere a lambda is used, you might want to add locking annotations
308 2019-11-13T19:08:30  <jamesob> MarcoFalke: but AssertLockHeld won't make clang lock analysis happy, eh?
309 2019-11-13T19:08:49  <MarcoFalke> For the same reason that you want to use locking annotations normally (in non lambdas)
310 2019-11-13T19:08:54  <MarcoFalke> jamesob: I think it does
311 2019-11-13T19:09:29  <MarcoFalke> jamesob: If not, you can use LockAssertion
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313 2019-11-13T19:11:17  <jamesob> ah right on, LockAssertion looks like it'll do it. thanks.
314 2019-11-13T19:11:38  <sipa> according to this, it's possible: https://stackoverflow.com/a/40483407/8342274
315 2019-11-13T19:13:39  <jamesob> argh, capturing a ::cs_main reference apparently isn't possible due to its storage duration
316 2019-11-13T19:14:42  <jamesob> I'll just use a private method instead of a lambda
317 2019-11-13T19:17:31  <luke-jr> MarcoFalke: but lock annotations are part of the type, no?
318 2019-11-13T19:18:16  <jonasschnelli> sipa: Great. Happy to hear it.
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321 2019-11-13T19:22:45  <MarcoFalke> sipa: It is possible to put the annotation in, but I don't think the compiler can evaluate the annotation when the lambda is passes as a std::function into a different function in a different translation unit
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323 2019-11-13T19:23:11  <sipa> MarcoFalke: in that case, sure
324 2019-11-13T19:23:22  <sipa> but usually lambdas are passed as a templated type
325 2019-11-13T19:23:35  <sipa> which doesn't require collapsing to an std::function type
326 2019-11-13T19:23:36  <MarcoFalke> There might be discussion about that in the commit in clang that added the possibility to annotate lambdas
327 2019-11-13T19:24:01  <sipa> actually, perhaps clang supports having locking annotations on std::function types too; not sure
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329 2019-11-13T19:25:48  <MarcoFalke> sipa: Sure if it is templated then the Mutex is available in the translation unit, so it might be possible. However when it is a std::function, the header that defines the Mutex might not be included, so I dont' think clang can do its magic
330 2019-11-13T19:27:13  <MarcoFalke> [14:13] <jamesob> argh, capturing a ::cs_main reference apparently isn't possible due to its storage duration
331 2019-11-13T19:27:22  <MarcoFalke> hmm, are you sure? I think I did that recently
332 2019-11-13T19:27:29  <MarcoFalke> maybe I didnt' compile with clang, though?
333 2019-11-13T19:27:41  <jamesob> yeah, I got a clang warning
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337 2019-11-13T19:43:13  <jonasschnelli> <sipa>	jonasschnelli: real_or_random and i jad some thoughts on simplifying future upgrades in the v2 protocol, ping me when you have some time
338 2019-11-13T19:43:19  <jonasschnelli> Do you have time to explain it further?
339 2019-11-13T19:43:46  <sipa> jonasschnelli: probably should do it when real_or_random is available too
340 2019-11-13T19:44:14  <jonasschnelli> Okay. Let see if we find a overlapping timezone window. :)
341 2019-11-13T19:46:02  <MarcoFalke> jamesob: That compiled for me btw: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/fa19ddc2bf8ee8f1ce621611a90f8b9e380b1517
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367 2019-11-13T20:27:33  <jamesob> MarcoFalke: hm weird, wonder what the difference was with my code. thanks.
368 2019-11-13T20:27:46  <MarcoFalke> How did you capture?
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373 2019-11-13T20:43:23  <jamesob> tried capture and no capture - clang doesn't like the attempted capture-by-reference ("'cs_main' cannot be captured because it does not have automatic storage duration [clang-diagnostic-error]"). then when I write `LockAssertion(::cs_main)` I get "definition or redeclaration of 'cs_main' cannot name the global scope [clang-diagnostic-error]"
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375 2019-11-13T20:48:01  <MarcoFalke> jamesob: globals are already captured
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389 2019-11-13T21:15:37  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #17466: depends: qt: Fix C{,XX} pickup (master...2019-11-qt-CC-CXX-pickup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17466
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392 2019-11-13T21:15:57  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke reopened pull request #17466: depends: qt: Fix C{,XX} pickup (master...2019-11-qt-CC-CXX-pickup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17466
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396 2019-11-13T21:17:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #17469: test: Remove fragile assert_memory_usage_stable (master...1911-testFragileMem) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17469
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402 2019-11-13T21:31:31  <jamesob> MarcoFalke: yeah in the second case I'm not doing a capture
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418 2019-11-13T22:24:35  <JeremyCrookshank> @a5
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432 2019-11-13T23:03:19  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #17470: ci: Use clang-8 for fuzzing to run on aarch64 ci systems (master...1911-ciFuzzClang8) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17470
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