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22020-01-31T00:00:36 <sipa> bare script transactions are nonstandard to begin with
32020-01-31T00:00:46 <sipa> except p2sh/p2pk/p2pkh/multisig
42020-01-31T00:01:11 <jeremyrubin> Ah fair, I guess if I make a new standard type I can set whatever rules I want anyways
52020-01-31T00:01:48 <sipa> anything but <constant> OP_CTV as standard seems crazy
62020-01-31T00:02:43 <jeremyrubin> not planning on doing that, just more out of intellectual curiosity
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82020-01-31T00:12:27 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #18034: Get the OutputType for a descriptor (master...desc-getoutputtype) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18034
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112020-01-31T00:15:28 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #18035: gui: Drop BanTableModel dependency to ClientModel (master...2020-01-bantablemodel) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18035
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152020-01-31T00:21:57 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1d1f8bbf5711...d176aeafde29
162020-01-31T00:21:58 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 085423b Aaron Clauson: Remove GitHub Actions CI workflow.
172020-01-31T00:21:58 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d176aea fanquake: Merge #18031: Remove GitHub Actions CI workflow.
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352020-01-31T00:44:30 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d176aeafde29...3e1bf71064cc
362020-01-31T00:44:31 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c7ec9a1 Andrew Toth: Add missing supported rpcs to doc/descriptors.md
372020-01-31T00:44:31 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3e1bf71 fanquake: Merge #18025: doc: Add missing supported rpcs to doc/descriptors.md
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402020-01-31T00:44:51 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #18025: doc: Add missing supported rpcs to doc/descriptors.md (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18025
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442020-01-31T00:56:57 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #18036: gui: Drop ShutdownWindow dependency to BitcoinGUI (master...2020-01-utilitydialog) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18036
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752020-01-31T05:52:18 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] amitiuttarwar opened pull request #18037: Util: Allow scheduler to be mocked (master...2020-01-mock-scheduler) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18037
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1192020-01-31T08:20:12 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag closed pull request #18035: gui: Drop BanTableModel dependency to ClientModel (master...2020-01-bantablemodel) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18035
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1422020-01-31T10:03:06 <jonasschnelli> Anyone know why the macos build failes on the buitcoinbuilds site? https://bitcoinbuilds.org/index.php?ansilog=e9054288-51c8-4e70-923f-84dea2dfcd15.log#l1752
1432020-01-31T10:03:15 <jonasschnelli> It should compile Qt from depends...
1442020-01-31T10:06:39 <fanquake> jonasschnelli: that looks like a Linux build, if itâs compiling dbus and freedesktop notifications
1452020-01-31T10:06:48 <fanquake> Neither are used on macOS
1462020-01-31T10:06:59 <jonasschnelli> thats a point. :/
1472020-01-31T10:07:44 <jonasschnelli> though: /home/ubuntu/src/depends/x86_64-apple-darwin14/native/bin/clang -target x86_64-apple-darwin14 -mmacosx-version-min=10.12 --sysroot /home/ubuntu/src/depends/SDKs/MacOSX10.11.sdk
1482020-01-31T10:08:42 <jonasschnelli> But yes,.. it passes the #ifdef USE_DBUS macro
1492020-01-31T10:16:12 <jonasschnelli> fanquake: but USE_DBUS is enabled on macOS
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1512020-01-31T10:24:12 <fanquake> jonasschnelli: if you're compiling qt from depends, we explicitly disable the dbus module when targeting macos, so when configure checks for QtDbus, it shouldn't find it, and USE_DBUS shouldn't get set.
1522020-01-31T10:31:30 <jonasschnelli> Thanks. Maybe my cache is invalid...
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1542020-01-31T10:34:13 <fanquake> If you blow everything away and still seeing issues let me know and Iâll have a look
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1812020-01-31T13:14:00 <sdaftuar> wumpus: fyi I think #17951 is ready for merge
1822020-01-31T13:14:03 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17951 | Use rolling bloom filter of recent block txs for AlreadyHave() check by sdaftuar · Pull Request #17951 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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1892020-01-31T13:43:53 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3e1bf71064cc...d104aa0ace36
1902020-01-31T13:43:53 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a029e18 Suhas Daftuar: Use rolling bloom filter of recent block tx's for AlreadyHave() check
1912020-01-31T13:43:54 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d104aa0 Jonas Schnelli: Merge #17951: Use rolling bloom filter of recent block txs for AlreadyHave...
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1942020-01-31T13:44:14 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli merged pull request #17951: Use rolling bloom filter of recent block txs for AlreadyHave() check (master...2020-01-improve-alreadyhave) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17951
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2012020-01-31T14:23:27 <jonasschnelli> fanquake: hmm.. still facing the macOS cross compile DBUS error
2022020-01-31T14:23:52 <jonasschnelli> fanquake: https://bitcoinbuilds.org/logs/b8458fba-f290-4431-b5ab-4cebb700b2f6.log (a normal macOS depends build with x86_64-apple-darwin16 and MacOS SDK 10.11)
2032020-01-31T14:24:26 <jonasschnelli> -no-dbus gets passed into the depends qt builds
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2092020-01-31T14:47:59 <provoostenator> fanquake: the macOS Travis #16392 build is failing, but it's marked as high priority for review. Should I try it anyway?
2102020-01-31T14:48:05 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16392 | build: macOS toolchain update by fanquake · Pull Request #16392 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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2122020-01-31T14:51:56 <jonasschnelli> feature_block.py fails (reproducible) on bitcoinbuilds: https://bitcoinbuilds.org/index.php?ansilog=b682c112-b8f3-4ad8-859b-d0916e5b3a85.log#l6123
2132020-01-31T14:58:01 <jonasschnelli> fanquake: found more about the DBus issue. Our qt m4 detects QT_DBUS even if it has not been compiled via depends. Probably detects it if it has been installed locally as non crosscompile host shared library
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2192020-01-31T15:22:15 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #18042: Don't check for DBUS notification on macOS (master...2020/01/mac_dbus) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18042
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2392020-01-31T16:16:21 <promag> jonasschnelli: imo these are good to go #17937 #18036
2402020-01-31T16:16:23 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17937 | gui: Remove WalletView and BitcoinGUI circular dependency by promag · Pull Request #17937 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2412020-01-31T16:16:24 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18036 | gui: Break trivial circular dependencies by promag · Pull Request #18036 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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2482020-01-31T16:42:19 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sdaftuar opened pull request #18044: Use wtxid for transaction relay (master...2020-01-wtxid-inv) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18044
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2672020-01-31T17:18:02 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #18045: build: Do not use QtDBus for macOS builds (master...20200131-macos-qdbus) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18045
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2692020-01-31T17:18:41 <hebasto> jonasschnelli: mind looking ^
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2762020-01-31T17:53:24 <provoostenator> Wallet meeting in 1 hour? Or is the schedule different?
2772020-01-31T17:53:49 <achow101> sounds about right
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2792020-01-31T17:54:50 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #18042: Don't check for DBUS notification on macOS (master...2020/01/mac_dbus) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18042
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2892020-01-31T19:00:13 <meshcollider> #startmeeting
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2922020-01-31T19:00:17 <provoostenator> hi
2932020-01-31T19:00:18 <kanzure> hi
2942020-01-31T19:00:19 <meshcollider> #bitcoin-core-dev Wallet Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101 meshcollider jnewbery maaku fanquake promag provoostenator aj Chris_Stewart_5 dongcarl gwillen jamesob ken281221 ryanofsky gleb moneyball ariard digi_james amiti fjahr
2952020-01-31T19:00:19 <meshcollider> jeremyrubin emilengler jonatack hebasto jb55
2962020-01-31T19:00:33 <fjahr> hi
2972020-01-31T19:01:00 <achow101> hi
2982020-01-31T19:01:31 <meshcollider> So, wallet boxes merged this week, thanks to those who helped review it and get it in \o/
2992020-01-31T19:01:31 <sipa> hi
3002020-01-31T19:01:38 <meshcollider> Topics?
3012020-01-31T19:02:07 <achow101> does the descriptor wallets PR need to be broken up?
3022020-01-31T19:02:59 <provoostenator> It's not HUGE, but it's a lot of moving parts, so might be better to get some stuff in seperately. E.g. serialization.
3032020-01-31T19:03:23 <meshcollider> #16528
3042020-01-31T19:03:25 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16528 | Native Descriptor Wallets using DescriptorScriptPubKeyMan by achow101 · Pull Request #16528 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3052020-01-31T19:03:49 <jnewbery> hi
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3072020-01-31T19:04:27 <meshcollider> Hmm yeah I think splitting it up at least a bit might help get it in quicker
3082020-01-31T19:04:39 <jonatack> hi
3092020-01-31T19:04:54 <provoostenator> If you do split however, it'll be more difficult to rely on the functional test suite to check everything. So you may need to add regular unit tests.
3102020-01-31T19:05:13 <provoostenator> Not necessarily a bad thing, but maybe unpleasant :-)
3112020-01-31T19:05:58 <meshcollider> Andrew has lots of time to add tests in between waiting for reviews ;)
3122020-01-31T19:06:14 <achow101> a lot of things in the test suite need to be changed to not rely on deprecated RPCs
3132020-01-31T19:06:34 <achow101> but those changes don't make sense (or work) without descriptor wallets already
3142020-01-31T19:08:40 <achow101> but threre aren't a lot of commits that can standalone. most of the commits are just implementing different functions
3152020-01-31T19:10:16 <provoostenator> I think the wallet encoding stuff can be done seperately, but it'll need unit tests.
3162020-01-31T19:10:56 <provoostenator> In other words, it wouldn't be reachable via RPC.
3172020-01-31T19:11:28 <meshcollider> You could probably do it in the kind of, implement first, then connect it to the existing code second, like you did with the first boxing PR
3182020-01-31T19:11:30 <achow101> you mean the WalletDescriptor class?
3192020-01-31T19:12:11 <provoostenator> Maybe the WalletDescriptor class and its WalletDB stuff.
3202020-01-31T19:12:41 <provoostenator> Not sure how easy it is to get that in without the whole ScriptpubkeyMan structure to support it.
3212020-01-31T19:13:33 <achow101> I'll try
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3232020-01-31T19:14:42 <achow101> I won't be making changes until after next week, so feel free to leave your review comments next week before anything changes
3242020-01-31T19:15:49 <sipa> achow101: ?
3252020-01-31T19:16:04 <sipa> oh
3262020-01-31T19:16:08 <meshcollider> Sounds good
3272020-01-31T19:16:09 <sipa> i missed the "until"
3282020-01-31T19:16:15 <meshcollider> Anything else anyone wants to discuss?
3292020-01-31T19:16:33 <jonatack> meshcollider: 17585 might be RFM, has acks from jnewbery and wumpus
3302020-01-31T19:16:46 <provoostenator> Related to descriptor wallets...
3312020-01-31T19:16:50 <sipa> #17585
3322020-01-31T19:16:53 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17585 | rpc: deprecate getaddressinfo label by jonatack · Pull Request #17585 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3332020-01-31T19:17:02 <jonatack> sipa: thank you
3342020-01-31T19:17:10 <provoostenator> One thing I brought up in the review is if we really want to switch to BIP44/49/84 or stick to our hardened derivation thing.
3352020-01-31T19:17:24 <meshcollider> jonatack: sweet I'll review it too and merge later today
3362020-01-31T19:17:54 <achow101> he'll merge it soon(tm) :p
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3382020-01-31T19:19:00 <achow101> provoostenator: maybe we should discuss that nnow
3392020-01-31T19:19:23 <achow101> I think the reason we didn't do public derivation before was because privkeys could be exported easily with dumpprivkey
3402020-01-31T19:19:59 <achow101> (and lots of things online casually mention that people can do this to check whether they have the private keys)
3412020-01-31T19:20:03 <provoostenator> We currently use m/0'/0'/i' derivation in the wallet
3422020-01-31T19:20:15 <provoostenator> Where the last 0' is 1' for change
3432020-01-31T19:20:22 <provoostenator> Every key is hardened
3442020-01-31T19:20:40 <sipa> i'm not opposed to having the option of having publicly derivable wallets
3452020-01-31T19:20:46 <sipa> i'm unsure if it should be default
3462020-01-31T19:21:26 <achow101> well it also means we don't need to unlock wallets to get more addresses
3472020-01-31T19:21:44 <achow101> so the "keypool" can be way smaller
3482020-01-31T19:21:50 <meshcollider> Yeah itd be quite nice to at least have the option there
3492020-01-31T19:21:59 <jonatack> +1
3502020-01-31T19:22:30 <achow101> descriptor wallets will always give you that option as you can import a descriptor with different derivs. the question is the setting for newly created wallets
3512020-01-31T19:22:40 <sipa> yeah
3522020-01-31T19:22:48 <sipa> achow101: the keypool (=precomputed pubkeys for descriptors?) still needs to be as large as the gap limit, right?
3532020-01-31T19:23:27 <achow101> yes, it still needs to be as large as the gap limit
3542020-01-31T19:23:35 <achow101> but that doesn't need to be 1000
3552020-01-31T19:23:40 <achow101> could go back to 100
3562020-01-31T19:23:40 <sipa> fair, possibly not
3572020-01-31T19:23:50 <provoostenator> What happens in the current wallet if you import and rescan a wallet that uses keys beyond the gap limit?
3582020-01-31T19:23:55 <sipa> the overhead of a large keypool would also be smaller, i think?
3592020-01-31T19:24:19 <sipa> as you don't get new key entries and whatever in the wallet, or do you?
3602020-01-31T19:24:34 <achow101> yes
3612020-01-31T19:24:46 <achow101> every pubkey is still precomputed and stored for the descriptor cache
3622020-01-31T19:24:55 <provoostenator> The serialized descriptor only needs to hold on to its public cache
3632020-01-31T19:25:07 <provoostenator> And we can stop storing the encrypted indivual private keys
3642020-01-31T19:25:13 <provoostenator> And just derive those when signing.
3652020-01-31T19:25:16 <sipa> yeah
3662020-01-31T19:25:21 <achow101> I don't think we store individual private keys
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3682020-01-31T19:25:29 <sipa> achow101: we do now :p
3692020-01-31T19:25:31 <provoostenator> Maybe I misread that today
3702020-01-31T19:25:45 <achow101> sipa: in descriptor wallets :)
3712020-01-31T19:25:47 <sipa> or do you mean in descriptor wallets PR?
3722020-01-31T19:25:48 <provoostenator> Today we do that for backwards compatibility with legacy wallets
3732020-01-31T19:26:00 <sipa> right, that's what I assumed
3742020-01-31T19:26:12 <sipa> we store individual keys for legacy wallets but not for descriptor wallets
3752020-01-31T19:26:17 <provoostenator> The descriptor wallet PR currently maintains that behavior afaik, but doesn't have to.
3762020-01-31T19:26:32 <sipa> i hope it does not
3772020-01-31T19:26:47 <sipa> descriptor wallets can't be and shouldn't be compatible with old software
3782020-01-31T19:27:13 <meshcollider> Yeah that's what we are trying to escape with the redesign
3792020-01-31T19:27:14 <provoostenator> sipa: the descriptor wallet flag already prevents old software from loading
3802020-01-31T19:27:23 <achow101> at one point, an implementation did do that because it was easier. but I thought I changed that
3812020-01-31T19:27:42 <provoostenator> achow101: maybe you only kept the serialization code aorund; that's where I ended reviewing today
3822020-01-31T19:28:06 <achow101> provoostenator: maybe you are confusing the descriptor master private key storage?
3832020-01-31T19:28:51 <provoostenator> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/d6f0c337f5bbf935cd93ed3884f5c10bcaa5d493
3842020-01-31T19:29:01 <provoostenator> AddKey and AddCryptedKey
3852020-01-31T19:29:24 <achow101> that's for the master private key
3862020-01-31T19:29:27 <achow101> just bad naming lol
3872020-01-31T19:29:39 <provoostenator> Aargh, not the first time I trip over that name.
3882020-01-31T19:29:57 <achow101> I'll rename it
3892020-01-31T19:30:20 <provoostenator> Ok, so assuming that's all great, we only need the password when expanding the (public) keypool.
3902020-01-31T19:30:25 <provoostenator> And when signing a transaction
3912020-01-31T19:30:31 <provoostenator> And it's not much burden.
3922020-01-31T19:30:43 <provoostenator> So that's not a reason to avoid hardened derivation by default
3932020-01-31T19:31:03 <achow101> it's the same thing you have to do today
3942020-01-31T19:33:02 <achow101> I suppose part of this is also that it seems like every other wallet has settled on a standardized derivation path scheme
3952020-01-31T19:33:23 <achow101> but at the same time, descriptors are completely unambiguous about the derivation to use
3962020-01-31T19:34:23 <provoostenator> https://walletsrecovery.org
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3982020-01-31T19:34:47 <provoostenator> Reasonably strong BIP44/49/84 adoption
3992020-01-31T19:35:11 <provoostenator> But definately not universal
4002020-01-31T19:35:28 <provoostenator> See also https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18043
4012020-01-31T19:35:29 <achow101> it's not a problem for people to import their stuff into our descriptor wallet as we can use any derivation path
4022020-01-31T19:35:46 <achow101> it's only a problem for people importing core to another wallet that may not allow custom derivation paths
4032020-01-31T19:36:43 <provoostenator> I wonder how common that use case is though, exporting keys to another wallet. Usually it's easier to just send them.
4042020-01-31T19:37:20 <achow101> Core -> other wallet is fairly common because people don't want to wait for IBD
4052020-01-31T19:37:41 <meshcollider> Yeah if you're restoring a backup or something and have keys but haven't synced to send tx
4062020-01-31T19:38:09 <meshcollider> It's probably fair to add a wallet creation option to be BIP 44/49/84 compliance
4072020-01-31T19:38:11 <achow101> threads on bitcointalk and questions on stackexchange about that show up pretty commonly
4082020-01-31T19:38:13 <provoostenator> AssumeUTXO to the rescue?
4092020-01-31T19:38:25 <provoostenator> meshcollider: as an option for sure
4102020-01-31T19:39:04 <provoostenator> Though without BIP39 mnemonic export that's still not practical
4112020-01-31T19:39:26 <achow101> that makes setup more annoying though, possibly need SetupGeneration to take more args
4122020-01-31T19:39:45 <provoostenator> achow101: it'll need more args for multisig too probably
4132020-01-31T19:40:00 <provoostenator> Actually no, those are still single descriptors.
4142020-01-31T19:40:30 <achow101> for multisigs, I would expect that to be imports rather than something we specifically allow in wallet creation
4152020-01-31T19:40:31 <provoostenator> If we were to add BIP39 support, then descriptors could contain the mnemonic.
4162020-01-31T19:41:19 <sipa> no
4172020-01-31T19:41:34 <sipa> the mnemonic is private information, and should be protected by the private key infrastructure
4182020-01-31T19:41:41 <sipa> descriptors are public
4192020-01-31T19:42:04 <achow101> sipa: descriptors can contain privkeys though
4202020-01-31T19:42:10 <achow101> that's supported for imports at least
4212020-01-31T19:42:12 <sipa> achow101: as syntactig sugar
4222020-01-31T19:42:16 <achow101> yes
4232020-01-31T19:42:21 <provoostenator> True, so inpractice you'd have a mnemonic in one place, and then have descriptors that just refer to the master key fingerprint
4242020-01-31T19:42:29 <sipa> for imports, supporting mnemonics is not a problem
4252020-01-31T19:42:34 <sipa> in descriptors
4262020-01-31T19:42:48 <sipa> but they'd be converted to a private key + descriptor with xpubs
4272020-01-31T19:43:00 <provoostenator> yes
4282020-01-31T19:43:18 <jonatack> "What happens in the current wallet if you import and rescan a wallet that uses keys beyond the gap limit?" -> #17719 just merged, related to this
4292020-01-31T19:43:21 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17719 | Document better -keypool as a look-ahead safety mechanism by ariard · Pull Request #17719 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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4312020-01-31T19:43:25 <provoostenator> Or a descriptor without xpubs which assumes you have the matser key (doesn't work atm)
4322020-01-31T19:43:51 <sipa> provoostenator: hmm, no
4332020-01-31T19:44:04 <sipa> the descriptor needs to have enough information to generate future addresses
4342020-01-31T19:44:53 <provoostenator> OK, that's a reasonable constraint
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4362020-01-31T19:45:23 <achow101> iirc, to be an "active" descriptor, we require IsSolvable() and IsRanged()
4372020-01-31T19:46:08 <achow101> although I think IsRanged() implies IsSolvable()
4382020-01-31T19:46:23 <provoostenator> (re multisig, I have an experimental createmultisigwallet RPC call in #16895 but I'm not convinced that's the way to go)
4392020-01-31T19:46:25 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16895 | External signer multisig support by Sjors · Pull Request #16895 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4402020-01-31T19:47:29 <provoostenator> The tricky part of multisig is that you need to collect information from multiple sources. Or one of the [devices] has to be responsible to generate an import incantation.
4412020-01-31T19:48:21 <provoostenator> Based on some info it gets from other devices.
4422020-01-31T19:48:38 <provoostenator> But maybe for some other time...
4432020-01-31T19:48:59 <achow101> i think we can think about multisig after descriptor wallets is merged
4442020-01-31T19:49:04 <achow101> (in like 6 months)
4452020-01-31T19:49:08 <provoostenator> 2 weeks
4462020-01-31T19:49:11 <meshcollider> lol
4472020-01-31T19:49:50 <achow101> back to the public deriv thing, what do we want for the default?
4482020-01-31T19:50:50 <meshcollider> Will there be a "dumpprivdescriptor" RPC or something, how is the user even going to extract it from their wallet to import?
4492020-01-31T19:51:22 <provoostenator> Not initially but hard to guarantee that'll never happen.
4502020-01-31T19:51:29 <achow101> not initially
4512020-01-31T19:51:38 <sipa> i don't see a big problem with that
4522020-01-31T19:51:55 <achow101> I think eventually there will be
4532020-01-31T19:52:02 <sipa> it's obviously scary, and needs big warnings
4542020-01-31T19:52:02 <meshcollider> Probably
4552020-01-31T19:52:12 <sipa> but it's in the same order of dangerous as dumpprivkey now
4562020-01-31T19:52:19 <meshcollider> Or dumpwallet
4572020-01-31T19:52:29 <sipa> yeah, dumpwallet is a better comparison
4582020-01-31T19:52:33 <achow101> dumpwallet is deprecated now I think
4592020-01-31T19:52:38 <achow101> with descriptor wallets
4602020-01-31T19:52:42 <sipa> good
4612020-01-31T19:52:42 <meshcollider> Good
4622020-01-31T19:52:43 <provoostenator> More like dumpwallet than dumpkey, because one compromised privkey can comprise the full wallet without hardned deriv
4632020-01-31T19:52:44 <sipa> it should be
4642020-01-31T19:53:06 <achow101> I think i'll add a dumppublicdescriptor
4652020-01-31T19:53:20 <achow101> so at least you can import watch only to another wallet, and then do psbt signing
4662020-01-31T19:53:37 <provoostenator> achow101: +1
4672020-01-31T19:53:44 <meshcollider> Yeah then with that, BIP derivation seems more sensible
4682020-01-31T19:53:52 <jonatack> Yes
4692020-01-31T19:54:48 <jonatack> will try to look at #16528 next week
4702020-01-31T19:54:51 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16528 | Native Descriptor Wallets using DescriptorScriptPubKeyMan by achow101 · Pull Request #16528 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4712020-01-31T19:55:11 <meshcollider> Alright any last topics?
4722020-01-31T19:55:33 <provoostenator> sipa: taproot wallet support in two weeks?
4732020-01-31T19:55:42 <fjahr> just a review beg for #17824, there was some discussion 4 weeks ago but no ACKs yet
4742020-01-31T19:55:45 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17824 | wallet: Improve coin selection for destination groups >10 by fjahr · Pull Request #17824 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4752020-01-31T19:55:46 <meshcollider> Yep, merge before SF ;)
4762020-01-31T19:57:28 <meshcollider> #endmeeting
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4812020-01-31T19:57:57 <jonatack> fjahr: thanks
4822020-01-31T19:58:03 <meshcollider> fjahr: it's always hard to get coin selection review haha
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4842020-01-31T19:59:51 <fjahr> meshcollider: hehe, I will try to be patient :)
4852020-01-31T20:02:49 <hebasto> jonasschnelli: is it feasible to point the latest successful feature_block.py on bitcoinbuild?
4862020-01-31T20:03:13 <jonasschnelli> hebasto: I found the issue (why the tests fail)... its out-of-memory
4872020-01-31T20:03:42 <jonasschnelli> Somehow running test_runner.py with the sanitizers requires more then 5GB of ram...
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4892020-01-31T20:03:58 <jonasschnelli> 1603 ubuntu 20 0 1233224 1.071g 9028 S 2.0 22.1 0:24.26 python3
4902020-01-31T20:04:31 <jonasschnelli> Some tests require up to 1GB of ram (python part)
4912020-01-31T20:04:54 <jonasschnelli> running with -j 1 or -j 2 (default are 4 jobs)
4922020-01-31T20:05:06 <jonasschnelli> ... should reduce the mem footprint
4932020-01-31T20:05:48 <hebasto> jonasschnelli: thanks for info
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5062020-01-31T22:10:51 <jonatack> Could someone kindly restart travis for #17812 please
5072020-01-31T22:10:53 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17812 | config, test: asmap functional tests and feature refinements by jonatack · Pull Request #17812 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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