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 462020-09-14T03:53:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/be375b2206fe...ba4b3fbcf213
 472020-09-14T03:53:12  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b9c1a76 Pieter Wuille: Squashed 'src/secp256k1/' changes from 2ed54da18a..8ab24e8dad
 482020-09-14T03:53:13  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 894fb33 Pieter Wuille: Update src/secp256k1 subtree to upstream libsecp256k1
 492020-09-14T03:53:13  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ba4b3fb fanquake: Merge #19944: Update secp256k1 subtree (including BIP340 support)
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 522020-09-14T03:53:29  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #19944: Update secp256k1 subtree (including BIP340 support) (master...202009_secp256k1_schnorr) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19944
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 712020-09-14T04:53:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #19953: Implement BIP 340-342 validation (Schnorr/taproot/tapscript) (master...taproot) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19953
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 732020-09-14T05:00:12  <aj> eek, github lets you click checkboxes in PRs and automatically edits them?
 742020-09-14T05:02:44  <sipa> yes
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 772020-09-14T05:03:04  <sipa> i don't think just anyone can click them, though
 782020-09-14T05:04:42  <aj> i guess you can just unclick it, but still
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 832020-09-14T05:17:49  <fanquake> aj: stop clicking all the buttons :p
 842020-09-14T05:19:07  <sipa> grr travis
 852020-09-14T05:19:16  <sipa> it somehow used the old commit branch to fetch from
 862020-09-14T05:19:29  <sipa> must be a very weird caching effect
 872020-09-14T05:20:16  <fanquake> Just another reason to never blindly trust "green ticks" and CIs
 882020-09-14T05:21:27  <aj> fanquake: i didn't think it was a button i was clicking!
 892020-09-14T05:33:36  <sipa> ok, fixed by pushing again it seems
 902020-09-14T05:38:05  <phantomcircuit> what? push all the buttons
 912020-09-14T05:38:33  <sipa> https://xkcd.com/722/
 922020-09-14T05:42:24  <phantomcircuit> sipa, is accurate
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 952020-09-14T05:54:16  <jeremyrubin> aj: all the noise on the lock annotations PRs makes me slightly hesitant on the epoch lock annotation patch fwiw; it seems like there's disagreement/confusion about what the annotations are or are not doing.
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1182020-09-14T07:09:48  <kallewoof> very nathan pyle'esque
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1252020-09-14T07:38:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vasild closed pull request #19929: sync: use proper TSA attributes (master...use_proper_tsa_attributes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19929
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1392020-09-14T08:30:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ba4b3fbcf213...06dbbe76dd02
1402020-09-14T08:30:56  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 812037c Pieter Wuille: Change CSipHasher's count variable to uint8_t
1412020-09-14T08:30:56  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 06dbbe7 fanquake: Merge #19931: Change CSipHasher's count variable to uint8_t
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1442020-09-14T08:31:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #19931: Change CSipHasher's count variable to uint8_t (master...202009_siphash_sillyness) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19931
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3082020-09-14T16:14:08  <jb55> achow101: is it possible to corrupt wallets when jumping between master and v0.20.1? trying to figure out how all my wallets got nuked
3092020-09-14T16:14:29  <achow101> jb55: was it a descriptor wallet?
3102020-09-14T16:15:27  <achow101> otherwise, they shouldn't be corrupted
3112020-09-14T16:15:46  <jb55> well I loaded one to test, and obviously that failed to load when I went back. but I have really old wallets and wallets I've imported with importmulti. all of them have random keys in them now. its super weird: https://jb55.com/s/6ae99d5e19df80a3.png
3122020-09-14T16:16:22  <jb55> all of them have private keys enabled as well even though they were all watch only before
3132020-09-14T16:16:30  <jb55> if this is corruption its super weird no?
3142020-09-14T16:16:47  <achow101> sounsd like the private keys disabled flag got lost somehow
3152020-09-14T16:17:14  <achow101> which would be considered corruption
3162020-09-14T16:17:35  <jb55> for some reason when I upgraded to 0.20.1 it redownloaded the entire blockchain and all my wallets are unrecognizable/didn't pick up any txs during rescan
3172020-09-14T16:17:45  <jb55> something super weird going on
3182020-09-14T16:17:52  <achow101> that seems like a datadir issue
3192020-09-14T16:19:20  <jb55> guess I this gives me a change to reimport everything as descriptor wallets :P
3202020-09-14T16:26:01  <sipa> wumpus: it seems 0.20.1 is not bitcoin.org yet? https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/Bitcoin.org/pull/3435
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3402020-09-14T18:21:50  <phantomcircuit> jb55, did you build against the right version of bdb?
3412020-09-14T18:22:20  <phantomcircuit> oh nvm that doesn't seem like a version mismatch
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3452020-09-14T18:25:32  <jb55> I had the same thought but I didn't see any bdb updates between the nixpkgs revisions I updated
3462020-09-14T18:27:29  <jb55> but the fact that the blockchain redownloaded and all my wallets are scrambled seems to point to something going very wrong on my zfs storage after I updated my kernel/nixpkgs. still haven't figured it out though
3472020-09-14T18:28:09  <jb55> just surprised the wallets didn't fail to load and they're just filled with random keys I don't recognize =/
3482020-09-14T18:31:34  <luke-jr> :|
3492020-09-14T18:35:54  <phantomcircuit> jb55, is your zfs array mounted?
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3512020-09-14T18:37:41  <jb55> phantomcircuit: what do you mean?
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3542020-09-14T18:41:02  <sipa> jb55: i assume phantomcircuit means: is it possible you started bitcoind with the intended FS not mounted? if so, bitcoind would create fresh wallet(s)
3552020-09-14T18:42:25  <jb55> sipa: oh that seems likely, since they all look like new wallets
3562020-09-14T18:42:38  <jb55> now I'm wondering where the old ones went =/
3572020-09-14T18:43:26  <sipa> it would also explain why your node is starting sync from scratch :)
3582020-09-14T18:43:53  <phantomcircuit> jb55, often when upgrading kernels or zfs you can endup with zfs not actually loading filesystems or mounting them
3592020-09-14T18:44:02  <phantomcircuit> sounds like that's what happened
3602020-09-14T18:44:12  <jb55> well that's incredibly annoying
3612020-09-14T18:44:15  <phantomcircuit> the files are still in zfs probably you just have to actually mount the fs
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3632020-09-14T18:46:32  <sipa> solution: use ZFS as your root filesystem
3642020-09-14T18:46:53  <sipa> that way it'll just fail to boot if something goes wrong
3652020-09-14T18:47:09  <luke-jr> XD
3662020-09-14T18:47:18  <sipa> (not joking, it's what i do)
3672020-09-14T18:47:42  <luke-jr> or even if it's /home, nothing should autocreate the dirs per user
3682020-09-14T18:47:50  <luke-jr> sipa: I also use ZFS for root
3692020-09-14T18:48:09  <sipa> cool
3702020-09-14T18:48:16  <jb55> I created a mountpoint /zbig/bitcoin on top of my /zbig hdd so that I could snapshot specifically that directory and none others. I think this is where I f'd up somehow
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3722020-09-14T18:50:29  <jb55> I do use zfs for root as well on my ssd, but I don't think that was the issue here. definitely some mounting issue. thx guys
3732020-09-14T18:50:51  <sipa> woah! github now lists commits in a PR in topological order?
3742020-09-14T18:50:54  <sipa> when did that changer?
3752020-09-14T18:50:59  <jb55> finalllyyy
3762020-09-14T18:51:20  <sdaftuar> \o/
3772020-09-14T18:52:47  <luke-jr> inb4 we are merely inside sipa's dream
3782020-09-14T18:52:51  <sipa> https://github.blog/changelog/2020-07-14-pull-request-commits-now-ordered-chronologically/
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3812020-09-14T18:53:25  <sipa> i guess by "chronological order in the head branch" they mean topological...
3822020-09-14T18:53:55  <luke-jr> lol @ using chronological for the opposite
3832020-09-14T18:54:54  <sipa> ah, i think it may mean it's sorting by the internal "CommitDate" value in commits, which is reset on rebasing
3842020-09-14T18:55:11  <sipa> rather than the usually shown AuthorDate value, which is not normally rewritten
3852020-09-14T18:55:33  <sdaftuar> so my commit-date-grinding tool might break this? doh.
3862020-09-14T18:55:50  * sipa inspects sdaftuar's old commits
3872020-09-14T18:55:53  <sdaftuar> (actually, now i don't remember what timestamp i was grinding on, i should check)
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3892020-09-14T19:00:00  <sdaftuar> sweet, i was using AuthorDate, good to go
3902020-09-14T19:03:34  <luke-jr> sdaftuar: grind? just set it.. :P
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3922020-09-14T19:05:08  <phantomcircuit> luke-jr, presumably he was grinding the short id
3932020-09-14T19:08:43  <sdaftuar> e.g https://github.com/sdaftuar/bitcoin/commit/daf12f23bff6033f76dfb4c66f6ea9e699e7992b
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3952020-09-14T19:08:50  <sdaftuar> much better version of #19858 if you ask me
3962020-09-14T19:09:03  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19858 | Periodically make block-relay connections and sync headers by sdaftuar · Pull Request #19858 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3982020-09-14T19:10:00  <sipa> what's ground about it? (that's the past tense of to grind, right?)
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4002020-09-14T19:11:11  <sdaftuar> "daf..."
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4022020-09-14T19:11:24  <sipa> ah!
4032020-09-14T19:11:30  <sdaftuar> i think the "t" was going to be hard
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4112020-09-14T19:54:13  <sipa> sdaftuar: i don't see any actual commits in the bitcoin/bitcoin history though
4122020-09-14T19:54:18  <sipa> *like that
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4372020-09-14T20:58:24  <sdaftuar> sipa: i guess this version of #15141 was never merged (though it would have been fun): https://github.com/sdaftuar/bitcoin/commits/15141.9
4382020-09-14T20:58:28  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15141 | Rewrite DoS interface between validation and net_processing by sdaftuar · Pull Request #15141 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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4492020-09-14T21:31:57  <phantomcircuit> sdaftuar, i thought grinding was relatively cheap?
4502020-09-14T21:33:01  <sipa> it should just be SHA-1 hashing
4512020-09-14T21:33:10  <sipa> of the entire commit body + headers, though
4522020-09-14T21:35:58  <phantomcircuit> i guess to actually do it efficiently you'd need to be grinding something at the of the commit body
4532020-09-14T21:42:21  <luke-jr> phantomcircuit: that's the commit message
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4552020-09-14T21:43:42  <phantomcircuit> or make the entire headers + commit body less than 80 bytes
4562020-09-14T21:43:57  <sipa> just end the commit with "Here is a random hex string! 2f3a531408d18276e183ab216c"
4572020-09-14T21:43:59  <phantomcircuit> 40 bytes?
4582020-09-14T21:44:07  <sipa> *message
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4602020-09-14T21:45:34  <aj> sdaftuar: could use 5 as a standin for s?
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4632020-09-14T21:48:02  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] n1rna opened pull request #19956: rpc: Improve invalid vout value rpc error message (master...rpc-invalid-vout-message) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19956
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4662020-09-14T22:12:42  <yanmaani> What happened to the headers-only/SPV mode? (fClient)
4672020-09-14T22:14:34  <aj> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/2161 ?
4682020-09-14T22:17:56  <sipa> ?
4692020-09-14T22:20:49  <emzy> how to request onion addresses from a dnsseed?
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4722020-09-14T22:21:32  <sipa> emzy: they're just treated as IPv6 (using onioncat encoding)
4732020-09-14T22:21:44  <sipa> i guess there could be a request flag for that
4742020-09-14T22:21:55  * sipa makes mental note: crap, not compatible with torv3
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4762020-09-14T22:22:01  <emzy> but how to request.
4772020-09-14T22:22:10  <sipa> emzy: request AAAA records
4782020-09-14T22:22:21  <emzy> sipa: I had that realisation also.
4792020-09-14T22:22:22  <sipa> there is no special way to restrict just those
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4812020-09-14T22:23:17  <sipa> emzy: on the other hand, when you're using bitcoin behind tor, you probably don't want to use dnsseeds in the first place, but addr_fetch nodes, which don't have that problem
4822020-09-14T22:23:24  <emzy> dig -t aaaa x49.dnsseed.emzy.de
4832020-09-14T22:24:04  <emzy> Yes I think there is a way to use dns with tor.
4842020-09-14T22:24:18  <emzy> over tor.
4852020-09-14T22:25:03  <luke-jr> what would tor do if we had a well-known onion privkey?
4862020-09-14T22:25:19  <luke-jr> would it do a sane anycast?
4872020-09-14T22:25:23  <emzy> btw. I have the import to bind working. I'm now setting up a test dns server.
4882020-09-14T22:26:43  <sipa> emzy: if you use bitcoin core with -proxy, dns seeds are not used directly; instead, a connection is made to the NS name of the DNS seeds (which in case of tor causes the exit node to resolve it, pick a random result, and forward the connection there), and a getaddr is requested, and the connection is closed after getting a response
4892020-09-14T22:27:29  <sipa> so in that scenario, the fact that dns seeds can't encode torv3 address isn't really a problem - the addr response will
4902020-09-14T22:28:08  <emzy> I see.
4912020-09-14T22:29:04  <sipa> luke-jr: https://tor.stackexchange.com/questions/13/can-a-hidden-service-be-hosted-by-multiple-instances-of-tor
4922020-09-14T22:29:53  <luke-jr> sipa: sounds attackable
4932020-09-14T22:29:59  <sipa> how so?
4942020-09-14T22:30:55  <luke-jr> sipa: an attacker would just ensure his is publsihed most recently
4952020-09-14T22:31:13  <sipa> luke-jr: you're not supposed to share private keys with other parties
4962020-09-14T22:31:47  <sipa> i'm just answering what would answer if you did; i don't think it's a supported use case or advisable
4972020-09-14T22:31:54  <sipa> s/answer/happen/
4982020-09-14T22:46:14  <yanmaani> luke-jr: I don't think that would be stable.
4992020-09-14T22:46:56  <yanmaani> If you want load balancing, there's onionbalance
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5032020-09-14T23:02:23  <luke-jr> yanmaani: I want trustless anycast
5042020-09-14T23:02:46  <luke-jr> yanmaani: route to any random node(s)
5052020-09-14T23:03:53  <yanmaani> nope, that wouldn't work
5062020-09-14T23:04:07  <yanmaani> For what purpose? Transaction broadcasting?
5072020-09-14T23:06:20  <yanmaani> One approach to that would be to make all Bitcoin nodes connect to the BitTorrent DHT, then randomly enter the BitTorrent DHT by brute-forcing IPv4 IPs (<200 UDP packets on average), and then broadcast to them. Or you could have Bitcoin receive transactions on UDP, and just send them to 0.0.0.0/0:8333.
5082020-09-14T23:08:10  <yanmaani> 2^32 * 250 / 100 MBit = 24h
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5112020-09-14T23:18:34  <phantomcircuit> emzy, you can do all the dns requests over tcp over tor, but that's kind of insane
5122020-09-14T23:22:03  <emzy> Why insane?
5132020-09-14T23:22:21  <emzy> For torsocks docs: "torsocks can force the libc resolver to use TCP for name queries, if it does this it does it regardless of whether or not the DNS to be queried is local or not. This introduces overhead and should only be used when needed. "
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