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382021-01-14T02:14:18 <achow101> jonasschnelli: 0.21.0 MacOS code signature pls
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812021-01-14T07:44:57 <jonasschnelli> will do the 0.21.0 signature macOS now
822021-01-14T07:53:02 <gleb> sdaftuar: I was reviewing disabletx, and I didn't get why we don't use a positive "sendtx/enabletx" message instead. Since I'm a bit late to the party, I was wondering if this was discussed at some point, so I wanted to ask here instead of adding noise to the PR.
832021-01-14T07:53:47 <gleb> Also, in the BIP, "For nearly the past year" ages poorly in the context of the BIP document I think :)
842021-01-14T07:58:01 <sipa> gleb: i assume part of the reason is that the positive form is implied now (you can't assume sokeone doesn't want transactions unless they tell you)
852021-01-14T07:58:36 <aj> gleb, sipa: here's kindof what i'm thinking re: switching towards something more opt-in https://gist.github.com/ajtowns/9703e8ff518fbf57c381f3eb3d6c2ca1
862021-01-14T07:58:55 <gleb> Well, since there is a version change, we can start assuming the opposite starting 70017
872021-01-14T07:59:22 <sipa> it's slightly different for a hypthetical equivalent for addr relay... as there it seems we'd like to assume/infer that some peers don't want some types of ip addresses (and having an explicit "i do want ipv17 addresses")
882021-01-14T08:00:14 <sipa> gleb: i think that's a fairly strong break with how p2p versions have historically been used (only for enabling new messages, but only negotiate actual behavior change through specific messages)
892021-01-14T08:02:05 <sipa> but yes, you could say as of some version everything is default off, and anything you will use must be announced ahead of time
902021-01-14T08:02:13 <sipa> that's what aj seema to suggest, actually
912021-01-14T08:02:22 <gleb> sipa: Personally I have no problem with breaking that kind of historical behavior (maybe I just don't understand something), but I see why people might want to keep it.
922021-01-14T08:02:56 <aj> gleb: it's a bigger change than strictly necessary
932021-01-14T08:03:32 <gleb> Good point.
942021-01-14T08:04:41 <sipa> gleb: the practical concern would say: say in v70018 a fancy new feature is added to the protocol, which a certain implementation needs... but now they're forced to make a somewhat more invasive change to accomodate this opting in to everything
952021-01-14T08:05:33 <aj> sipa: maybe that's a good reason for the opt-in to be 80000; that way opt-in only at version 70018, 19, 20, .. works for a bunch of features in the meantime
962021-01-14T08:05:45 <sipa> it's easy to reconcile that though, i think: as long as one feature negotiation message is sent, everyrhing else is iff; if you send none, it is interpreted as some historical defaukt set
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1012021-01-14T08:52:09 <jonasschnelli> gitian builders: 0.21.0 detached signatures are ready. Start your builders.
1022021-01-14T09:01:14 <sipa> on it
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1052021-01-14T09:05:35 <wumpus> on it too, thanks for pushing the sigs so quickly
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1112021-01-14T09:22:39 <jonasschnelli> As for ##bitcoin-core-gui ... the mode is wrong. It should not be on invite (achow101 luke-jr). Will fix now.
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1152021-01-14T09:32:11 <jonasschnelli> ##bitcoin-core-gui has the correct mode now
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1182021-01-14T09:35:33 <jonatack> jonasschnelli: thanks, it's open again for me
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1202021-01-14T09:41:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20931: doc: Add historic 0.21.0 release notes (master...2101-docArchiveRelNotes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20931
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1232021-01-14T09:47:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cb2c57845177...ad571bd354cb
1242021-01-14T09:47:47 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faea902 MarcoFalke: doc: Add historic 0.21.0 release notes
1252021-01-14T09:47:47 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ad571bd Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #20931: doc: Add historic 0.21.0 release notes
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1282021-01-14T09:48:17 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #20931: doc: Add historic 0.21.0 release notes (master...2101-docArchiveRelNotes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20931
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1312021-01-14T09:49:32 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kiminuo opened pull request #20932: Introduce fsbridge::AbsPathJoin(base, p). (master...feature/fs-AbsPathJoin) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20932
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1362021-01-14T09:54:19 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20933: [0.21] doc: Archive release notes, Add template for minor release (0.21...2101-docBackport) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20933
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1432021-01-14T10:08:43 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ad571bd354cb...29d2aeb4a2b1
1442021-01-14T10:08:43 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa75d40 MarcoFalke: fuzz: Introduce CallOneOf helper to replace switch-case
1452021-01-14T10:08:44 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 29d2aeb MarcoFalke: Merge #20828: fuzz: Introduce CallOneOf helper to replace switch-case
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1482021-01-14T10:09:12 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #20828: fuzz: Introduce CallOneOf helper to replace switch-case (master...2012-fuzzCallOneOf) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20828
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1532021-01-14T10:31:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to 0.21: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/95ea54ba0896...7d8a10a6f4d6
1542021-01-14T10:31:46 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 b6d3502 MarcoFalke: doc: Archive release notes, Add template for minor release
1552021-01-14T10:31:47 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 7d8a10a Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #20933: [0.21] doc: Archive release notes, Add template for minor re...
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1582021-01-14T10:32:01 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #20933: [0.21] doc: Archive release notes, Add template for minor release (0.21...2101-docBackport) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20933
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1662021-01-14T11:02:43 <aj> MarcoFalke: does bitcoin-util/gitian work better if bitcoin-util.cpp has #include <atomic> ?
1672021-01-14T11:03:31 <MarcoFalke> Haven't tried it. I'll let the build people figure it out :)
1682021-01-14T11:03:45 <MarcoFalke> fanquake: ^ :)))
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1702021-01-14T11:12:58 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack reopened pull request #20546: policy, wallet, refactor: check for non-representable CFeeRates (master...non-representable-CFeeRate-check) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20546
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1802021-01-14T11:37:30 <fanquake> aj: I have the solution for the reloc section issue for you
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1872021-01-14T12:24:28 <jonasschnelli> sipa: does it matter if we draw the poly1305 key or the 3 byte length encryption first from the ChaCha20 metadata stream?
1882021-01-14T12:24:50 <jonasschnelli> For the implementation, going with the 3 byte length encryption first would be simpler
1892021-01-14T12:33:41 <aj> jnewbery: what do you think of a "p2p agenda/priorities" page on the devwiki, that's just "current status" rather than an "rss feed/log" like the p2p meeting page is? be a nice place to capture/update todo lists, and could serve as an agenda each week (for both overall priorities and a hashtag-proposedp2pmeetingtopic thing) ?
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1912021-01-14T12:41:44 <Kiminuo> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20932 + @cirrus-ci
1922021-01-14T12:41:44 <Kiminuo> Win64 (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20932/checks?check_run_id=1700991165). Can anyone help me understand why building fails (only) for Win64?
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1992021-01-14T12:56:00 <wumpus> provoostenator: please whitelist magnet:?xt=urn:btih:665c5bdc6f49948e47c1098d91ace98bd216150e&dn=bitcoin-core-0.21.0
2002021-01-14T12:57:04 <wumpus> Kiminuo: strange!
2012021-01-14T12:57:56 <wumpus> I don't really understand it either
2022021-01-14T12:58:01 <Kiminuo> wumpus, I have tried to build on a Win64 machine (in MSVS) and it really fails to build
2032021-01-14T12:58:21 <Kiminuo> So that's probably worse than "Cirrus behaves weird"
2042021-01-14T12:58:29 <Kiminuo> and something is probably really broken.
2052021-01-14T12:58:59 <wumpus> I don't see anything in the code change that looks out of place; it could be a linker order issue with libraries in the makefile, but why it doesn't happen for anything else in fs.cpp would be a good question
2062021-01-14T12:59:24 <Kiminuo> yeah, that confuses me too
2072021-01-14T13:08:11 <jonatack> Kiminuo: naive question, are backslashes universally ok in the doxygen?
2082021-01-14T13:08:46 <jnewbery> aj: I think it's a good idea. Do you think it's better to put it on the same page or a different wiki page?
2092021-01-14T13:10:12 <Kiminuo> jonatack, I did my best to write that doxygen comment but given that I don't have any experience with this type of documentation, I can't answer your question
2102021-01-14T13:10:22 <Kiminuo> I would love to see the result rendered too
2112021-01-14T13:10:57 <jonatack> Kiminuo: was just wondering if it could be some esoteric thing throwing off the compiler, i've seen stranger
2122021-01-14T13:12:13 <Kiminuo> jonatack, I see your point. I can try to remove that comment to see if something changes
2132021-01-14T13:14:33 <aj> jnewbery: different
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2152021-01-14T13:25:23 <Kiminuo> haha
2162021-01-14T13:25:47 <Kiminuo> it's INSIDE "#ifndef WIN32"
2172021-01-14T13:26:06 <Kiminuo> jonatack, time to laugh ;)
2182021-01-14T13:41:45 <wumpus> ð¤¦
2192021-01-14T13:41:51 <wumpus> well at least i'm happy it was simple
2202021-01-14T13:45:39 <aj> it's hard to make forward progress through your review queue when people reply to your comments :(
2212021-01-14T13:46:57 <aj> or maybe my problem is it's a review stack and not a review queue!
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2252021-01-14T13:52:11 <jonatack> Kiminuo: great! *unclutches straws
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2282021-01-14T14:04:15 <fanquake> wumpus: congrats on another release ð
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2502021-01-14T15:36:17 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/29d2aeb4a2b1...f91587f050d9
2512021-01-14T15:36:18 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 85cc6be gzhao408: lock annotations for MemPoolAccept functions
2522021-01-14T15:36:19 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2f463f5 gzhao408: [doc] for CheckInputsFromMempoolAndCache
2532021-01-14T15:36:19 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f91587f fanquake: Merge #20834: locks and docs in ATMP and CheckInputsFromMempoolAndCache
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2562021-01-14T15:36:36 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #20834: locks and docs in ATMP and CheckInputsFromMempoolAndCache (master...2021-01-validation-cleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20834
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2602021-01-14T15:38:51 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift reopened pull request #20089: validation: Increase robustness when loading malformed mempool.dat files (LoadMempool) (master...load-mempool-robustness) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20089
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2632021-01-14T15:40:16 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift closed pull request #20089: validation: Increase robustness when loading malformed mempool.dat files (LoadMempool) (master...load-mempool-robustness) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20089
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2662021-01-14T15:49:34 <jnewbery> aj: ACK. If you create the first version of the page I can link to it from the p2p meeting page, and I'll add my own priorities
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2682021-01-14T15:58:15 <prusnak> congratulations on the 0.21.0 release!
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2732021-01-14T16:24:50 <vasild> MarcoFalke: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20845 -- "incoming onions are also treated as local peers and should thus not be excepted..."
2742021-01-14T16:25:29 <vasild> there may be "normal" local peers and "onion" peers that look like local, do we want to log all of them with LogPrint(BCLog::NET?
2752021-01-14T16:25:40 <vasild> both types
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2772021-01-14T16:26:19 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] danben opened pull request #20936: build: build fuzz tests by default (master...build-fuzz-tests-by-default) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20936
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2792021-01-14T16:26:21 <vasild> from the description it looks to me that the intention is to only LogPrint(BCLog::NET the onion peers
2802021-01-14T16:26:45 <vasild> but this is not what the patch does
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3102021-01-14T18:22:51 <MarcoFalke> vasild: It probably hurts more to log onion unconditionally than it does to log "normal local peers" with the category only
3112021-01-14T18:23:24 <MarcoFalke> See also https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20724#discussion_r553046139
3122021-01-14T18:24:19 <MarcoFalke> quote: "log [...] of manual connections too -- though would need to do something cleverer"
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3142021-01-14T18:25:01 <MarcoFalke> Once we have agreement and a solution to log manual connections unconditionally throughout net for misbehavior/disconnect, we can also fine tune for "normal local peers"
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3182021-01-14T19:00:07 <jnewbery> moot?
3192021-01-14T19:01:26 <jonasschnelli> miit?
3202021-01-14T19:03:00 <sipa> Beech, oak, chestnut, ash... Good, good, good. Many have come.
3212021-01-14T19:03:20 <wumpus> #startmeeting
3222021-01-14T19:03:21 <core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Jan 14 19:03:20 2021 UTC. The chair is wumpus. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
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3242021-01-14T19:03:21 <jnewbery> woah don't be so hasty there sipa
3252021-01-14T19:03:25 <kanzure> hi
3262021-01-14T19:03:27 <jonatack> hi
3272021-01-14T19:03:28 <emzy> hi
3282021-01-14T19:03:31 <jnewbery> hi
3292021-01-14T19:03:33 <jonasschnelli> hi
3302021-01-14T19:03:36 <fjahr> hi
3312021-01-14T19:03:39 <hebasto> hi
3322021-01-14T19:03:42 <sipa> hi
3332021-01-14T19:03:43 <wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 aj amiti ariard bluematt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik
3342021-01-14T19:03:45 <wumpus> petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild wumpus
3352021-01-14T19:03:52 <achow101> hi
3362021-01-14T19:03:57 <sipa> congrats on 0.21 everyone!
3372021-01-14T19:04:07 <wumpus> yes, congrats on the release
3382021-01-14T19:04:24 <jnewbery> congrats everyone!
3392021-01-14T19:04:28 <emzy> \o/
3402021-01-14T19:04:28 <wumpus> no proposed meeting topics in http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt
3412021-01-14T19:04:34 <MarcoFalke> \o/
3422021-01-14T19:04:44 <fjahr> \o/
3432021-01-14T19:04:49 <wumpus> any last-minute topics ?
3442021-01-14T19:05:18 <MarcoFalke> I'd like to add #20715 to high prio :)
3452021-01-14T19:05:20 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20715 | util: Add ArgsManager::GetCommand() and use it in bitcoin-wallet by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #20715 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3462021-01-14T19:06:07 <jonatack> #20391 for me, please
3472021-01-14T19:06:09 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20391 | wallet: introduce setfeerate (an improved settxfee, in sat/vB) by jonatack · Pull Request #20391 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3482021-01-14T19:06:19 <wumpus> #topic High priority for review
3492021-01-14T19:06:19 <core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
3502021-01-14T19:06:24 <fjahr> #19145 for me please
3512021-01-14T19:06:26 <wumpus> we weren't there yet :)
3522021-01-14T19:06:27 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19145 | Add hash_type MUHASH for gettxoutsetinfo by fjahr · Pull Request #19145 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3532021-01-14T19:06:52 <wumpus> MarcoFalke: replacing #20362?
3542021-01-14T19:06:55 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20362 | test: Implicitly sync after generate* to preempt races and intermittent test failures by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #20362 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3552021-01-14T19:07:03 <jnewbery> wumpus: can we move #20557 to high priority bug fixes? PR #16702 broke some aspects of addrman deserialization and it'd be nice to fix them
3562021-01-14T19:07:05 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20557 | addrman: Fix new table bucketing during unserialization by jnewbery · Pull Request #20557 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3572021-01-14T19:07:09 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16702 | p2p: supplying and using asmap to improve IP bucketing in addrman by naumenkogs · Pull Request #16702 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3582021-01-14T19:07:17 <MarcoFalke> wumpus: Jup
3592021-01-14T19:09:29 <jamesob> hi
3602021-01-14T19:09:47 <wumpus> MarcoFalke jonatack fjahr jnewbery: done
3612021-01-14T19:09:57 <fjahr> wumpus: thank you!
3622021-01-14T19:10:25 <jonatack> thanks! (i'd like to either finish up the ongoing feerate sat/B migration and CFeeRate refactoring, or close it out as up for grabs)
3632021-01-14T19:10:42 <wumpus> at last, something new to review again!
3642021-01-14T19:11:07 <luke-jr> >implying there was ever a shortage
3652021-01-14T19:11:32 <wumpus> heh
3662021-01-14T19:11:46 <jonatack> jnewbery: agree, good choice
3672021-01-14T19:11:48 <wumpus> any other PRs to add/remove or that are almost ready for merge?
3682021-01-14T19:11:54 <jamesob> I think #19806 is pretty close to ready. More generally I'm kind of curious with how the g_chainman work is going to interface with the assumeutxo work; the two are going to step on each others' toes I think
3692021-01-14T19:11:57 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19806 | validation: UTXO snapshot activation by jamesob · Pull Request #19806 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3712021-01-14T19:12:08 <jamesob> (referring to #20749)
3722021-01-14T19:12:10 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20749 | [Bundle 1/n] Prune g_chainman usage related to ::LookupBlockIndex by dongcarl · Pull Request #20749 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3732021-01-14T19:13:02 <dongcarl> hi
3742021-01-14T19:13:11 <wumpus> the g_chainman work is necessary for factoring out the consensus code (libbitcoin_kernel) so fairly important
3752021-01-14T19:13:38 <dongcarl> jamesob: What parts are you most concerned about? Happy to talk through it and see how we can work it out
3762021-01-14T19:14:01 <sipa> jamesob, dongcarl: ideally you two figure out how to order things
3772021-01-14T19:14:14 <jamesob> there are some parts of assumeutxo that add chainstate-related calls to, say, net_processing so we probably need to sequence the changes somehow
3782021-01-14T19:14:33 <jamesob> I'm pretty flexible but also want to know whether to steel myself for rebase hell :)
3792021-01-14T19:14:39 <wumpus> maybe that can get rid of the circular dependency as well :)
3802021-01-14T19:14:49 <jamesob> let's hope
3812021-01-14T19:14:55 <wumpus> it's really a blemish
3822021-01-14T19:15:09 <dongcarl> jamesob: I think we can do it in an order or in a way that makes rebase easier, happy to chat offline and plan this out
3832021-01-14T19:15:11 <jamesob> that's the trouble with validation though - it's pretty challenging to yank parts out of it
3842021-01-14T19:15:30 <jamesob> dongcarl: sure, sounds good
3852021-01-14T19:16:02 <wumpus> i wish the utxo load/store stuff was not part of validation but a module in itself but yes it's not easy design
3862021-01-14T19:16:33 <jamesob> agreed, but it's not trivial to untangle in my experience
3872021-01-14T19:17:53 <wumpus> right
3882021-01-14T19:18:11 <wumpus> anyone with another topic suggestion for today?
3892021-01-14T19:19:30 <wumpus> that's a short meeting then, this time!
3902021-01-14T19:19:39 <wumpus> #endmeeting
3912021-01-14T19:19:40 <core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
3922021-01-14T19:19:40 <core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Jan 14 19:19:39 2021 UTC.
3932021-01-14T19:19:40 <core-meetingbot> Minutes: https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-01-14-19.03.moin.txt
3942021-01-14T19:19:48 <jonasschnelli> \o
3952021-01-14T19:19:56 <jnewbery> short meetings are good meetings. Thanks wumpus!
3962021-01-14T19:20:14 <sdaftuar> did i miss the congrats on 0.21 part? oops. congrats on 0.21 everyone :)
3972021-01-14T19:20:17 <luke-jr> XD
3982021-01-14T19:20:20 <luke-jr> yes
3992021-01-14T19:20:24 <luke-jr> [19:03:57] <sipa> congrats on 0.21 everyone!
4002021-01-14T19:20:28 <wumpus> congrats sdaftuar
4012021-01-14T19:20:33 <wumpus> jnewbery: agree
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4092021-01-14T19:53:25 <midnight> yeah folks, thanks for the effort! \o/
4102021-01-14T19:56:38 <midnight> also: <3
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4532021-01-14T23:55:25 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #20937: guix: Make nsis reproducible by respecting SOURCE-DATE-EPOCH (master...2021-01-nsis-sde-reproducibility) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20937
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