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 352021-02-20T02:32:19  <Abrax> bitcoin has an official irc server now
 362021-02-20T02:32:21  <Abrax> its just started
 372021-02-20T02:32:24  <Abrax> irc.bitcoin.com
 382021-02-20T02:32:38  <Abrax> it actually exists
 392021-02-20T02:38:05  <copumpkin> given who owns bitcoin.com, I'm not sure folks in here are terribly interested
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 432021-02-20T02:55:21  <Abrax> what you mean by that
 442021-02-20T02:56:07  <Abrax> its bitcoin.com
 452021-02-20T02:56:53  <sipa> this is offtopic, please take it elsewhere
 462021-02-20T02:56:55  <sipa> this channel is about development of bitcoin core
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 702021-02-20T07:53:34  <MarcoFalke> PSA. I am tracking non-exploitable (and exploitable) issues on https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/Fuzz-Trophies-(vulnerabilities) both for transparency and for our own benefit to understand the usefulness of fuzzing. This will hopefully help us to deploy new fuzzing resources more educated and with more impact.
 712021-02-20T07:53:50  <MarcoFalke> I'll mostly need help categorizing issues that are hit on pull requests.
 722021-02-20T07:54:21  <MarcoFalke> So if you see any pull request that hits a (valid) issue through fuzzing, please let me know (or directly add it to the wiki)
 732021-02-20T07:54:58  <MarcoFalke> PSA end
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 762021-02-20T08:23:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d1f932b Carl Dong: validation: Pass in coins cache to ::LimitMempoolSize
 772021-02-20T08:23:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 73a6d2b Carl Dong: validation: Pass in chainstate to IsCurrentForFeeEstimation
 782021-02-20T08:23:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 252b489 Carl Dong: validation: Pass in coins tip to CheckInputsFromMempoolAndCache
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 812021-02-20T08:23:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #20750: [Bundle 2/n] Prune g_chainman usage in mempool-related validation functions (master...2020-09-reduce-validation-mempool-ccsactiveglobal-usage) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20750
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 832021-02-20T08:41:05  <jonasschnelli> MarcoFalke: thanks for tracking those issues. Great idea
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 852021-02-20T08:54:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #21243: ci: Avoid invoking curl on the host (master...2102-ciCurl) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21243
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 952021-02-20T10:11:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery closed pull request #20411: test: Fix Version Message Deserialization Discrepancy (master...2020-11-test-framework-version-msg-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20411
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1012021-02-20T10:41:17  <jnewbery> I propose that as an experiment, we move next week's p2p irc meeting to 2100 UTC. That'll make it much easier for aj and sipa to attend.
1022021-02-20T10:41:39  <jnewbery> wumpus: do you mind updating the calendar for next week's p2p meeting?
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1052021-02-20T11:03:53  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kiminuo opened pull request #21244: GetDataDir: Accept ArgsManager as a parameter. (master...feature/2021-02-get-data-dir-args) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21244
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1172021-02-20T12:18:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fyquah opened pull request #21245: rpc: Add level 3 verbosity to getblock RPC call. (master...verbosity-level-3-getblock) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21245
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1212021-02-20T12:40:36  <wumpus> jnewbery: will do
1222021-02-20T12:42:35  <wumpus> is there any way to get the xpub for a native descriptor wallet through RPC?
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1242021-02-20T12:47:30  <wumpus> jnewbery: done
1252021-02-20T12:51:02  <wumpus> (to answer my question above, "listdescriptors" does this)
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1302021-02-20T13:21:22  <michaelfolkson> MarcoFalke: Cool. That dev wiki is editable (and hence vandalizable) by anyone and it has no version control. Is that the best place for it?
1312021-02-20T13:22:34  <michaelfolkson> MarcoFalke: Perhaps also add it as a topic to next week's dev meeting?
1322021-02-20T13:23:54  <michaelfolkson> I think that dev wiki should just be used for drafting. It shouldn't be used as a final destination for important/useful information
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1392021-02-20T13:44:06  <wumpus> michaelfolkson: the wiki does have version control, it is a git repository in itself
1402021-02-20T13:44:33  <wumpus> michaelfolkson: also thanks for reminding me to set it to editable to bitcoin-core members only
1412021-02-20T13:45:01  <wumpus> this is something i intended to do after the 0.21.0 release
1422021-02-20T13:47:10  <wumpus> achow101: i'm slightly confused by listdescriptors output: it has derivation paths like tpubD6NzVbkrYhZ4XackbNPEp9oCU488FtNtNcoto4vxcugiZd8munhrhmhe9B9YJD7sbogtnt21mD3nHmJPodX68sX5vovp5GW7Pbxep6b39Xx/84'/1'/0'/0/* , but how is it possible to do hardened derivation like 84' from a xpub?
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1442021-02-20T13:47:50  <wumpus> achow101: what i'm really trying to do is get a xpub to use for a multisig scheme
1452021-02-20T13:50:53  <wumpus> michaelfolkson: though you're right that the dev wiki is noet the place for 'finalized' documentation, we have other places for that: the 'doc' folder in the repository for things directly related to e.g. RPC functionality, and https://github.com/bitcoin-core/docs for less tightly coupled docs
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1572021-02-20T14:09:04  <newdev42> does anyone know where I can find a list of public testnet peer nodes closest to my region? or do you highly recommend me to spin up a local testnet node? (I'm working with services around a the rpc apis)
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1592021-02-20T14:19:34  <wumpus> newdev42: bitcoind will automatically find nodes for you, they likely won't be close to you geograpically but in the current internet topology that shoudn't matter too much; geographically close doesn't equate a fast link
1602021-02-20T14:20:51  <newdev42> wumpus: thanks for the response; I actually was looking for not using bitcoind and just consume some public available one (not running my own testnet node) is that not possible?
1612021-02-20T14:21:29  <wumpus> it's unlikely for anyone to make their peer's RPC available to you
1622021-02-20T14:22:02  <wumpus> i'm sure there are some public block chain APIs you can use but that's very much off topic here #bitcoin for general questions
1632021-02-20T14:22:16  <newdev42> gotcha, thank you very much!
1642021-02-20T14:27:21  <wumpus> PSA: the devwiki has been closed to bitcoin-core members only, if you require access to it please ask here to be added to the "wiki editors" or "frequent contributors" group (both give write access to the wiki)
1652021-02-20T14:27:40  <newdev42> wumpus thank you very much my friend! :)
1662021-02-20T14:41:00  <aj> newdev42: spin up a local signet node instead perhaps
1672021-02-20T14:45:24  <wumpus> newdev42: no problem
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1692021-02-20T14:53:49  <wumpus> i think what i need is a way to generate a *derived xpub* for a custom path in the wallet, i can do this with external tooling (e.g. darosior's bip32 python module), but afaik not from bitcoin core itself?
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1722021-02-20T15:02:46  <wumpus> of course to do it with an external tool i still need to get my wallets xprv somehow
1732021-02-20T15:04:48  <achow101> wumpus: perhaps #19136
1742021-02-20T15:04:51  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19136 | wallet: add parent_desc to getaddressinfo by achow101 · Pull Request #19136 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
1752021-02-20T15:05:54  <achow101> Since that is merged, listdescriptors should use that same normalized descriptor
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1832021-02-20T16:05:10  <wumpus> but how? i pasted to you above what i get from listdescriptors, which is the same tpub for every descriptor not a specific one, and it uses hardened derivation on a tpub
1842021-02-20T16:07:55  <wumpus> (and i am using the latest master so that patch should be in)
1852021-02-20T16:09:26  <wumpus> fwiw: src/bitcoin-cli -regtest listdescriptors | grep desc output : https://0bin.net/paste/97jvm8Rd#xEeTLSVcFbRGQqFCk67duPb85ynsnSkk4fkTl6I+ZyZ
1862021-02-20T16:10:06  <wumpus> in any case what i need is the xprv of the root i think
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1882021-02-20T17:15:25  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] roconnor-blockstream opened pull request #21246: Correction for VerifyTaprootCommitment comments (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21246
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2022021-02-20T18:07:06  <ariard> aj, sdaftuar: replied to few of your points on #21224, marked as draft until further discussions
2032021-02-20T18:07:08  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21224 | [p2p] Halt processing of unrequested transactions by ariard · Pull Request #21224 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2042021-02-20T18:07:59  <ariard> I think "A sane/implementatable rate-limiting strategy" would be a good mail thread, but maybe better to scope the problem space during IRC next p2p meeting
2052021-02-20T18:08:34  <ariard> otherwise we're going to be back to the airy #19820 :p
2062021-02-20T18:08:35  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19820 | Transactions propagation design goals · Issue #19820 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
2072021-02-20T18:16:05  <achow101> wumpus: what I meant was that we need to update listdescriptors to use the normalized descriptor. But for now you can use getaddressinfo's parent_desc field to get the importable descriptor
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2152021-02-20T18:59:37  <S3RK> wumpus: listdescriptors was merged before normalized decsriptors by achow101. I agree in current vesion it's not very useful, I plan to add support for normalized descriptors so you would get an importable version (xpub for latest hardend derivation).
2162021-02-20T19:00:19  <S3RK> I was also thinking about adding an option to show private descriptors, but that a bit risky. What do you think?
2172021-02-20T19:03:10  <achow101> S3RK: I think showing private descriptors is fine as long as we limit it to just the master privkey or at least only hardened steps
2182021-02-20T19:03:37  <achow101> we cannot allow child private key export when there is parent pubkey export too as that is dangerous without being obviously so to non-technical users
2192021-02-20T19:08:45  <S3RK> is it because with the combination of xpub and any private key it's possible to figure out chain code?
2202021-02-20T19:10:11  <achow101> S3RK: a parent xpub with a child privkey can recover the parent privkey
2212021-02-20T19:10:33  <achow101> this is not obvious to most people
2222021-02-20T19:10:54  <achow101> if we only allow root privkey export, that is at least obvious to most people to be potentially dangerous
2232021-02-20T19:13:24  <S3RK> yes, I see. I'll send a PR for normalized descriptors first and than work on an option for private descriptors.
2242021-02-20T19:14:06  <achow101> +1
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2382021-02-20T20:14:10  <Talkless> `fgrep -R QStringLiteral src/qt/*` finds nothing. Why..? :/
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2402021-02-20T20:25:22  <phantomcircuit> Talkless, they're there
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2462021-02-20T20:42:30  <Talkless> phantomcircuit: am I grepping wrong?
2472021-02-20T20:43:12  <phantomcircuit> Talkless, i think something else is wrong like you're not in the directory you think you are or something
2482021-02-20T20:44:08  <Talkless> :| QString - finds, QStringL - finds QStringList, but QStringLit - nothing
2492021-02-20T20:44:38  <sipa> "QStringLiteral" does not appear in the source code anywhere
2502021-02-20T20:45:37  <phantomcircuit> sipa, maybe it's generated code but it's in my source tree
2512021-02-20T20:45:40  <phantomcircuit> src/qt/forms/ui_sendcoinsentry.h
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2532021-02-20T20:45:57  <sipa> ah, yes
2542021-02-20T20:47:43  <sipa> i used git grep
2552021-02-20T20:47:50  <sipa> so it only searches checked in files
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2602021-02-20T20:53:05  <Talkless> phantomcircuit: ui_ are generated files, in my build dir.
2612021-02-20T20:53:20  <Talkless> $ find -name "ui_sendcoinsentry.h"
2622021-02-20T20:53:22  <Talkless> ./build/src/qt/forms/ui_sendcoinsentry.h
2632021-02-20T20:54:20  <Talkless> and that does not use QStringLiteral either
2642021-02-20T20:54:57  <phantomcircuit> possibly it generates different things with different qt versions
2652021-02-20T20:55:33  <Talkless> anyhow, so question standas, why QStringLiteral is not used? Nobody cares / considered micro-optimisation?
2662021-02-20T20:55:49  <Talkless> Personally, seeing setFoo("plain string literla") generates pain :D
2672021-02-20T20:56:53  <Talkless> settings.value("key") has to allocate new QString, copy-convert utf-8 into utf16...
2682021-02-20T20:58:21  <sipa> i'm sure that improvements are welcome
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2712021-02-20T21:00:26  <Talkless> sipa: I just thought maybe there's policy against it or whatever
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2732021-02-20T21:01:45  <Talkless> sipa: is there a point to keep nagging about not using QStringLiteral in new code, without some sort of "Agreement of Developers Committee"? :)
2742021-02-20T21:01:55  <Talkless> to start nagging*
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2832021-02-20T21:37:11  <luke-jr> Talkless: I for one didn't even know it existed
2842021-02-20T21:37:22  <luke-jr> Talkless: and find it silly that one needs to be explicit about this :x
2852021-02-20T21:43:08  <Talkless> luke-jr: yeah kinda annoying, "abc"_qsl might be better, I believe Qt Core maintainer was thinking about it, but maybe not possible without some newver C++ revision, idk
2862021-02-20T21:44:49  <Talkless> newer*,
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2892021-02-20T21:52:42  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] prayank23 opened pull request #21249: doc: Add Whitepaper in Docs (master...whitepaper) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21249
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