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32021-02-26T00:04:59 <sipa> guix building #21298:
42021-02-26T00:05:00 <sipa> updating: bitcoin-c33b199456e5/lib/libbitcoinconsensus-0.dll.dbg (deflated 78%)
52021-02-26T00:05:01 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21298 | guix: Bump time-machine, glibc, and linux-headers by dongcarl · Pull Request #21298 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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72021-02-26T00:05:04 <sipa> mkdir: cannot create directory 'unsigned': File exists
82021-02-26T00:05:06 <sipa> Command exited with non-zero status 1
92021-02-26T00:05:25 <fanquake> You'll need to nuke the output/ and windeploy/ dirs
102021-02-26T00:05:27 <dongcarl> sipa: Yeah this is an unfortunate UX error
112021-02-26T00:05:37 <dongcarl> I'm writing a guix-clean script as we speak
122021-02-26T00:06:39 <sipa> when do i need to nuke them?
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142021-02-26T00:07:17 <fanquake> Basically after each build. You could also remove the distsrc-hash-* dirs.
152021-02-26T00:08:31 <sipa> deleting the relevant distsrc-hash directory results in it at least being able to build again (otherwise it just says it already exists and aborts), but i get the same error at the end
162021-02-26T00:08:53 <dongcarl> you have to remove the distsrc-hash directories, and the output and windeploy dirs
172021-02-26T00:09:14 <sipa> what if i don't want to remove output?
182021-02-26T00:09:20 <sipa> do i need rename and move over afterwards?
192021-02-26T00:10:05 <dongcarl> Right, for now that is what you have to do.
202021-02-26T00:10:19 <sipa> yuck.
212021-02-26T00:10:20 <dongcarl> Hmmm
222021-02-26T00:10:22 <dongcarl> Actually
232021-02-26T00:10:26 <dongcarl> I'm not sure you need to remove output
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252021-02-26T00:10:44 <fanquake> Yea I think it might just be windeploy, and that's where unsigned lives
262021-02-26T00:11:11 <sipa> also: fatal: no tag exactly matches 'c33b199456e57d83c21eacd36d3c56d0a123b0d0'
272021-02-26T00:11:11 <fanquake> Ideally this will all be cleaned up to the point of never needing manual intervention
282021-02-26T00:11:12 <dongcarl> fanquake: If I just change that mkdir to `mkdir -p`... that should fix it right?
292021-02-26T00:11:15 <sipa> that's harmless?
302021-02-26T00:11:25 <dongcarl> sipa: Right, harmless
312021-02-26T00:11:33 <sipa> fatal. harmless. got it.
322021-02-26T00:11:40 <sipa> ;)
332021-02-26T00:11:43 <dongcarl> Hehe
342021-02-26T00:11:46 <fanquake> dongcarl: I think so
352021-02-26T00:11:58 <dongcarl> I've got some local branches that fixes a lot of these...
362021-02-26T00:12:08 <dongcarl> Promise they're coming soon :-) And thanks for the patience
372021-02-26T00:12:48 <fanquake> dongcarl: you're on thin ice
382021-02-26T00:12:58 <dongcarl> :O
392021-02-26T00:13:14 <sipa> that's a nice build system you got there
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412021-02-26T00:17:19 <dongcarl> XP
422021-02-26T00:18:40 <sipa> yeah, deleting distsrc and windeploy works
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442021-02-26T00:19:12 <fanquake> ð»
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462021-02-26T00:21:47 <sipa> fanquake: my build matches all your hashes here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21298/#issuecomment-785743515
472021-02-26T00:21:55 <sipa> (macos is still going, all the rest is done)
482021-02-26T00:22:41 <fanquake> sipa: great
492021-02-26T00:22:45 <fanquake> We'll have Guix back in sync with gitian in no time
502021-02-26T00:24:17 <dongcarl> ð»
512021-02-26T00:26:19 <dongcarl> Looks like adding -p to the `mkdir` fixed it... 3 character UX fixes FTW
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852021-02-26T03:15:56 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dscotese closed pull request #21289: contrib: Add explanatory comment to tc.sh (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21289
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882021-02-26T03:16:36 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dscotese opened pull request #21300: script: Add explanatory comment to tc.sh (master...tc.sh) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21300
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922021-02-26T04:02:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jesseposner opened pull request #21301: [WIP] Chacha20 py testing (master...chacha20-py-testing) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21301
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972021-02-26T04:42:51 <sipa> achow101: whatcha doin'?
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1002021-02-26T04:43:27 <achow101> sipa: trying to get documentation for hwi with readthedocs.io
1012021-02-26T04:44:10 <sipa> it's asking for permission to access the org's "private resources"
1022021-02-26T04:44:18 <sipa> i wonder what those resources are...
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1042021-02-26T04:44:56 <achow101> https://docs.readthedocs.io/en/stable/connected-accounts.html#github
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1072021-02-26T04:49:22 <sipa> achow101: ok, approved
1082021-02-26T04:49:35 <achow101> thanks!
1092021-02-26T04:49:38 <sipa> this seems similar to the access travis and appveyor have
1102021-02-26T04:49:49 <fanquake> is that just in the HWI repo?
1112021-02-26T04:50:08 <sipa> it seems to be something at the org level, which confuses me a bit
1122021-02-26T04:51:31 <achow101> strangely it was already available for the bitcoin org but not bitcoin-core
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1302021-02-26T08:02:31 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] S3RK opened pull request #21302: wallet: createwallet examples for descriptor wallets (master...create_descriptor_help) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21302
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1322021-02-26T08:17:08 <wumpus> neither bitcoin nor bitcoin-core has any private repositories at least
1332021-02-26T08:18:21 <wumpus> but no idea what 'private resources' means here either
1342021-02-26T08:20:30 <wumpus> but if it is read-only i suppose it's harmless
1352021-02-26T08:20:42 <sipa> i can't actually tell if it is read-only or not
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1372021-02-26T08:34:24 <wumpus> i found the page but don't entirely get it either, it doesn't seem to be individual permissions just a blanket allow on/off
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1392021-02-26T08:37:46 <sipa> yeah, but it seems to be something about oauth
1402021-02-26T08:37:48 <wumpus> i think i understand now: bitcoin-core has a policy enabled where third-party applications (enabled by organization members) have restricted access to the repositories in the organization, by adding an exception to that page, they can at most get the same permissions as the member (but up to what they actually grant)
1412021-02-26T08:38:32 <wumpus> the bitcoin organization does not have this policy enabled at all
1422021-02-26T08:39:17 <wumpus> it's a protection against accidental over-granting by members affecting the organization's repoistories
1432021-02-26T08:39:40 <wumpus> pretty meta
1442021-02-26T08:40:25 <wumpus> but in any case, with the exception enabled, it's stil up to achow101 what to grant and he cannot grant more than the access he has himself
1452021-02-26T08:41:00 <sipa> ah, i see
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1472021-02-26T08:49:18 <MarcoFalke> An organization owner has approved the following application to access private data in the Bitcoin Core organization:"Travis CI" from Travis CI GmbH
1482021-02-26T08:49:31 <MarcoFalke> Just got that mail ^
1492021-02-26T08:49:46 <MarcoFalke> any idea what is going on. ping sipa wumpus
1502021-02-26T08:50:41 <sipa> i didn't do anything for travis
1512021-02-26T08:50:53 <sipa> i approved achow101's request for readthedocs.org
1522021-02-26T08:50:54 <wumpus> MarcoFalke: which one do we need to allow "Travis CI" or "Travis CI for Open Source"?
1532021-02-26T08:51:12 <sipa> are we still using travis?
1542021-02-26T08:51:14 <wumpus> i have the second one enabled now, i disabled the first
1552021-02-26T08:51:29 <MarcoFalke> we don't even use travis ...
1562021-02-26T08:51:39 <wumpus> (it said something about being requested by btcdrak)
1572021-02-26T08:51:48 <wumpus> ok, will disable them both then
1582021-02-26T08:52:07 <sipa> yeah, when i looked earlier there was a request by btcdrak pending
1592021-02-26T08:52:13 <sipa> which is now listed as denied
1602021-02-26T08:52:16 <wumpus> right, I rejected that one
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1632021-02-26T08:53:40 <MarcoFalke> ok, I can see travis is removed from the apps
1642021-02-26T08:53:41 <MarcoFalke> thx
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1672021-02-26T09:08:47 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e49117470b77...8d37841cdf3a
1682021-02-26T09:08:48 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a69c3b3 Ivan Metlushko: wallet: listdescriptors uses normalized descriptor form
1692021-02-26T09:08:48 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8d37841 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #21277: wallet: listdescriptors uses normalized descriptor form
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1722021-02-26T09:09:17 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #21277: wallet: listdescriptors uses normalized descriptor form (master...listdescriptors_normalized) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21277
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1772021-02-26T09:35:20 <wumpus> let's make a HelpExampleCliNamed
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1792021-02-26T09:35:47 <wumpus> (re https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21302#discussion_r583491133 )
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1892021-02-26T10:28:31 <jnewbery> interface_zmq.py is still a bit flakey. TheStack and I have identified the issue and hopefully there'll be a fix soon
1902021-02-26T10:39:52 <aj> 9\o/
1912021-02-26T10:40:23 <aj> ^-- that's what jnewbery/thestack will look like holding up the decapitated head of the zmq bug?
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2042021-02-26T11:35:06 <Kiminuo> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21244 does anyone want to have a look? :)
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2622021-02-26T17:27:05 <dongcarl> I find myself writing some utility functions in bash which is useful to other scripts, would ./contrib/bash-snippets be a good place to put them?
2632021-02-26T17:28:37 <hebasto> dev-wiki?
2642021-02-26T17:29:19 <dongcarl> hebasto: Meh, what I mean is functions which can be sourced and used so that we don't repeat them everywhere
2652021-02-26T17:30:34 <hebasto> I see
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2742021-02-26T18:05:32 <shesek> what are the standardness rules for bare multisig? there's N<=3, valid pubkey first byte and size (according to CpubKey::ValidSize) and NULLDUMMY, did I miss anything?
2752021-02-26T18:06:18 <shesek> (NULLDUMMY being validness rather than standardness as of bip62)
2762021-02-26T18:06:34 <sipa_> bip62 is not consensus
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2792021-02-26T18:07:14 <shesek> oh oops, yes, I was confused
2802021-02-26T18:07:40 <sipa> you may mean bip147
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2842021-02-26T18:11:10 <shesek> yes, I did, mixed some things up
2852021-02-26T18:11:53 <shesek> are there any checks besides these I mentioned?
2862021-02-26T18:15:07 <sipa> you'd need to distinguish between output creation time and spending time
2872021-02-26T18:15:44 <sipa> at output creation it needs to match the bare multisig template exactly (or one of the other templates)
2882021-02-26T18:16:37 <sipa> i don't think the contents of those keys matters
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2932021-02-26T18:31:08 <shesek> sipa, it was actually you that introduced a more strict checking of pubkeys in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13194
2942021-02-26T18:31:12 <shesek> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14104#issuecomment-417246959
2952021-02-26T18:33:03 <sipa> shesek: ah yes, you're right
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2972021-02-26T18:43:10 <sipa> dongcarl, fanquake, wumpus: i now also did a guix build of 21298 in my debian vm with guix-master-a-week-ago-installed-from-source, and i get a mismatch on osx-unsigned.tar.gz
2982021-02-26T18:43:31 <sipa> the machine also crashed while building, which may mean it's just corrupted
2992021-02-26T18:43:42 * sipa redoes build
3002021-02-26T18:44:07 <dongcarl> sipa: Oh! Yeah I'd love to take a look at that
3012021-02-26T18:44:49 <dongcarl> sipa: Also, does `journalctl -b-1` tell you anything about what caused the crash?
3022021-02-26T18:44:50 <sipa> the dmg is a match, however
3032021-02-26T18:45:02 <sipa> dongcarl: the host machine crashed, taking the VM with it
3042021-02-26T18:45:08 <dongcarl> Oh okay heh
3052021-02-26T18:45:19 <sipa> size is 2 bytes difference
3062021-02-26T18:46:10 <dongcarl> sipa: Huh... Do you still have the output or did you nuke it?
3072021-02-26T18:47:17 <sipa> i have the output, comparing the contents of the tar now
3082021-02-26T18:48:10 <dongcarl> sipa: If you use diffoscope, you can use the `--json output.json` option to encapsulate just the diff, and I can take a look if you want
3092021-02-26T18:49:33 <sipa> pagestuff and codesign_allocate differ...
3102021-02-26T18:50:19 <dongcarl> sipa: Oh! We don't need those anymore, right?
3112021-02-26T18:50:37 <sipa> i believe we don't
3122021-02-26T18:50:48 <dongcarl> Okay, if that's everything then we're good :-)
3132021-02-26T18:51:03 <sipa> is it worth investigating what's causing the difference regardless?
3142021-02-26T18:52:29 <dongcarl> I think so, but I'm trying to prioritize what I do so I can keep to my timeline... If you upload the tarball somewhere I will take a look!
3152021-02-26T18:56:25 <sipa> dongcarl: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/builds/bitcoin-c33b199456e5-osx-unsigned-BAD.tar.gz
3162021-02-26T18:56:44 <dongcarl> sipa: Thanks!
3172021-02-26T19:01:58 <achow101> wallet meeting?
3182021-02-26T19:03:04 <jonatack> i'm around (reviewing 20685)
3192021-02-26T19:03:29 <achow101> #startmeeting
3202021-02-26T19:03:38 <jonatack> hola achow101
3212021-02-26T19:03:54 <achow101> any topics to discuss?
3222021-02-26T19:04:14 <jonatack> looks like some nice doc improvements are happening in HWI
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3242021-02-26T19:04:21 <achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev wallet Meeting: achow101 aj amiti ariard bluematt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik
3252021-02-26T19:04:21 <achow101> petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild wumpus
3262021-02-26T19:04:35 <achow101> yeah, should be getting a HWI release soon
3272021-02-26T19:05:16 <jonatack> #21083 is your blocker/high-prio, yes?
3282021-02-26T19:05:19 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21083 | wallet: Avoid requesting fee rates multiple times during coin selection by achow101 · Pull Request #21083 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3292021-02-26T19:05:29 <achow101> yes
3302021-02-26T19:06:04 <sipa> some review on #20861 would be helpful
3312021-02-26T19:06:06 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20861 | BIP 350: Implement Bech32m and use it for v1+ segwit addresses by sipa · Pull Request #20861 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3322021-02-26T19:06:32 <achow101> sipa: I'll try to review it next week
3332021-02-26T19:06:48 <jonatack> +1
3342021-02-26T19:06:53 <sipa> next week i hope to have another successor open ;)
3352021-02-26T19:07:08 <luke-jr> another successor?
3362021-02-26T19:07:14 <achow101> any news on taproot descriptors?
3372021-02-26T19:07:15 <sipa> taproot signing supporty
3382021-02-26T19:07:20 <sipa> and descriptors
3392021-02-26T19:07:29 <sipa> or at least, a first pass at it
3402021-02-26T19:07:33 <achow101> yay descriptors
3412021-02-26T19:07:59 <jonatack> nice
3422021-02-26T19:09:08 <jonatack> S3RK kindly did an in-depth review of #20391, which I'll update soon per their feedback to move the sat/vB stuff forward
3432021-02-26T19:09:12 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20391 | wallet: introduce setfeerate (an improved settxfee, in sat/vB) by jonatack · Pull Request #20391 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3442021-02-26T19:09:34 <jonatack> along with one adding a setestimatefee RPC
3452021-02-26T19:10:31 <jonatack> and fjahr's coinstats work moved forward since last meeting with a MuHash merge
3462021-02-26T19:11:19 <jonatack> so #19521 is next
3472021-02-26T19:11:21 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19521 | Coinstats Index by fjahr · Pull Request #19521 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
3482021-02-26T19:11:37 <achow101> we also got the listdescriptors command this week and I think the followup to have it output normalized descriptors was also merged today
3492021-02-26T19:11:47 <sipa> yay
3502021-02-26T19:11:56 <jonatack> yess
3512021-02-26T19:12:12 <achow101> I'll be working on another followup so the wallet doesn't need to be unlocked to get the normalized descriptor
3522021-02-26T19:13:38 <achow101> anything else to discuss?
3532021-02-26T19:13:50 <jonatack> achow101: iirc there was some leftover feedback from the listdescriptors pull you could maybe take in the next one
3542021-02-26T19:13:57 <achow101> ok
3552021-02-26T19:15:21 <jonatack> * s/setestimatefee/estimatefeerate/
3562021-02-26T19:15:30 <achow101> #endmeeting
3572021-02-26T19:15:38 <achow101> jonasschnelli_: I think the meeting bot died again
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3622021-02-26T19:27:39 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8d37841cdf3a...5ba5becbb5d8
3632021-02-26T19:27:40 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 13a9fd1 Carl Dong: guix: Passthrough SDK_PATH into container
3642021-02-26T19:27:40 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5ba5bec Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #21272: guix: Passthrough SDK_PATH into container
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3672021-02-26T19:27:59 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #21272: guix: Passthrough SDK_PATH into container (master...2021-02-guix-SDK-specify) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21272
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4032021-02-26T21:59:12 <michaelfolkson> Hey. Does anyone have views on a config option released in Core such that the user could change lockinontimeout (lot) from false to true? (assuming lot was set to false by default)
4042021-02-26T21:59:52 <michaelfolkson> I'm looking for Concept NACKs ideally if anyone has one
4052021-02-26T22:02:50 <michaelfolkson> "I like a hidden option in Core which is always there from day one, which is lot=true or taproot-bip8-lot-true or something that would change lockinontimeout to true and also change the default user agent string so you can tell people are running it. Thatâs good because by the time 6 months comes almost everyone has upgraded anyway, theyâve just got to change their config." (From the Sydney Socratic)
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4092021-02-26T22:56:48 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #21304: guix: Various user workflow improvements (master...2021-02-guix-clean-script) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21304
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