19:02:22 #startmeeting 19:02:22 Meeting started Thu May 19 19:02:22 2016 UTC. The chair is BlueMatt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:02:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 19:02:29 topics? 19:03:10 VB GBT :P 19:03:48 who's writing the fixes for that? 19:04:14 i am at the zurich bitcoin meetup 19:04:18 me https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/7935 19:05:33 luke-jr: so it looks like its in the review queue? 19:05:41 yeah 19:05:57 but it's fairly important to get released before CSV activates 19:06:22 csv won't activate soon 19:06:52 it might, but, indeed, there seems to be some meme about CSV not being useful without segwit :/ 19:06:56 could be within a month, no? and we need time for rc testing etc 19:07:13 hmm 19:07:33 how important is it for us to get CSV activated soon? 19:07:48 I don't know any urgent need for it tbh 19:08:04 dont think its /criticial/, but it would be very nice for a few folks 19:08:04 the demand for csv is for supporting htlcz 19:08:57 htlcz? 19:08:59 but doesn't it seem like segwit is such a big additional improvement that its not worth trying to push for CSV adoption now and instead saving our energy for segwit adoption? 19:09:03 luke-jr: s/z/s/ 19:09:20 ah 19:09:58 morcos: it would be very nice if it didnt activate at the same time, but while there are some use-cases, its true, I'm not aware of anyone clamoring for csv RIGHT NOW 19:10:35 BlueMatt: just for the purposes of having a live VB activation before segwit? 19:10:41 it is kinda dissapointing that miners dont care enough to upgrade, since there were other bugfixes there, but whatever 19:10:54 I got the (mistaken?) impression BlueMatt and gmaxwell were upset CSV was taking long, so I assumed it was getting pressure on 19:10:56 that doesn't seem so critical to me, now that we've had so many testnet type activations 19:11:01 morcos: yea, that would be nice too 19:11:30 i agree its disappointing, but i'm not sure its something thats worth worrying about or doing anything about. lets just roll out the next great thing 19:11:34 luke-jr: no, I think gmaxwell would very much like it to move forward faster, and I am dissapointed that its not, but as morcos points out, its not critical 19:11:42 what could be do to improve adoption? 19:11:56 sipa: 0.11 backport would get Eligius 19:12:02 sipa: not much, a few folks were bugging the 2 big miners left 19:12:51 right now solo depends on VB GBT, and Eligius depends on either 0.11 backport or 0.12 CPFP testing/review 19:13:20 luke-jr: i'll review the patches tomorrow 19:13:22 luke-jr: I'm working on the cpfp review 19:13:45 next topic? 19:15:13 should we make specific plans for the weekend? 19:15:23 or maybe jonasschnelli already has that planned 19:15:42 I think thats already mostly planned/most folks arent here/there is an email thread 19:15:55 yes 19:16:23 oh, has anyone looked at the OpenSSL exploits? 19:16:27 I haven't planed a schedule on what to talk about or on what to work. I think this should be done together. 19:16:39 Any I guess 20 people can't work on the same thing. We might need to form groups. 19:18:24 if there are no further topics, i suggest closing the meeting soon 19:19:05 OpenSSL exploits could be a topic. IIRC there was an uncertainty of the risk of the last batch 19:19:05 sounds good to me 19:19:15 luke-jr: yes, someone should look at that 19:19:36 luke-jr: you feel like digging into it? 19:19:42 if we're going to release 0.12.2 with the VB GBT stuff, might as well bump OpenSSL with it? 19:19:53 that sou ds reasonable 19:19:59 BlueMatt: I don't feel competent in crypto, but I could dig a little I guess 19:19:59 sounds 19:20:27 luke-jr: indeed, if we do another release (I think we'd need a quorum here to discuss that), then we should bump openssl 19:22:05 guess nothing else to discuss? 19:24:06 #endmeeting