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  22019-12-04T00:10:15  <ddustin> Lol!
  32019-12-04T00:10:52  <ddustin> Did the evidence ever come?
  42019-12-04T00:14:18  <gmaxwell> obviously not-- just like anything else that scammer says. (did ISIS even exist in 2010?)
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 352019-12-04T09:12:48  <kabaum> gmaxwell: Thanks for the clarification on k-of-n. And no, it really wasn't clear to me.
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 372019-12-04T09:31:47  <gmaxwell> kabaum: more clear now?
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 862019-12-04T16:34:31  <kabaum> gmaxwell: yes, it's more clear now. For example, using personal 3-of-4 threshold signatures where I own all 4 keys will work fine, but if the keys are owned by non-trusting parties it gets harder. But you also say that traditional mulutisig is vulnerable (as currently implemented) in similar ways.
 872019-12-04T16:38:59  <andytoshi> kabaum: traditional multisig, where all parties have to agree, is easier because if anybody is trying to attack the protocol, there is no requirement that it succeed
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 902019-12-04T16:39:38  <andytoshi> so the security requirement is just that nobody leak key data or otherwise allow a forgery to happen
 912019-12-04T16:40:13  <andytoshi> there's also additional complexity in the threshold case related to secret-sharing; you can do regular multisig without any exchange of secret data
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 932019-12-04T17:11:46  <nothingmuch> apical dominance might have been a better metaphor, but what with pervasive confusion about which way CS trees are oriented, and the fact that taproot outputs have leaves in them, taproot is a much better name
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