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762021-03-06T23:37:19 <jeremyrubin> harding: invite AJ here?
772021-03-06T23:37:27 <jeremyrubin> are you a mod?
782021-03-06T23:37:34 <harding> I don't think so.
792021-03-06T23:37:42 <jeremyrubin> In any case, I think it's an interesting call for projects:
802021-03-06T23:37:57 <jeremyrubin> What have people built (prototype or otherwise) using Taproot already?
812021-03-06T23:38:33 <mol_> jeremyrubin, it's a good idea to try it at least in testnet
822021-03-06T23:38:50 <mol_> do we have any example for testnet?
832021-03-06T23:39:22 <jeremyrubin> I could probably hack together a miniscript taproot wrapper...
842021-03-06T23:39:52 <jeremyrubin> would work for Sapio at least, which would instantly give you tons of examples
852021-03-06T23:40:01 <mol_> what's Sapio?
862021-03-06T23:40:11 <jeremyrubin> bitcoin smart contract programming language
872021-03-06T23:40:26 <harding> jeremyrubin: belcher had a post recently to the ML about the old segwit statement where a bunch of companies said that they had, or would soon, be implementing segwit. Maybe reply to that with the link to a wiki.bitcoin.it page or gist or something where people can post their projects. If you make a reasonable appeal, I will try to get it included in an optech newsletter to give it some publicitly. (As I said, it is something I'd like
882021-03-06T23:40:26 <harding> people to do for any feature-add soft fork.)
892021-03-06T23:44:22 <stortz> is taproot-ringsig a ring signature for taproot spends or a ring signature privacy scheme using taproot?
902021-03-06T23:44:30 <stortz> https://github.com/jonasnick/taproot-ringsig
912021-03-06T23:44:37 <jeremyrubin> it's sort of neither
922021-03-06T23:44:42 <stortz> oh
932021-03-06T23:44:54 <jeremyrubin> it's just useful for "one of these taproot outputs signed this" and that's all
942021-03-06T23:44:57 <jeremyrubin> AFAIU
952021-03-06T23:45:06 <stortz> ok
962021-03-06T23:45:11 <jeremyrubin> so I am slightly discounting it as a use case for taproot
972021-03-06T23:45:23 <jeremyrubin> given that it is unclear what it would be used for, end-to-end
982021-03-06T23:45:41 <jeremyrubin> certainly cool tho
992021-03-06T23:49:08 <harding> jeremyrubin: you don't think fidelity bonds is a significant potential use case? E.g. for joinmarket, coinswaps, LN dual funding, etc?
1002021-03-06T23:49:15 <jeremyrubin> it could be yes
1012021-03-06T23:49:29 <jeremyrubin> I just don't see the end-to-end viability of the nickler code
1022021-03-06T23:49:38 <harding> Ok.
1032021-03-06T23:49:45 <jeremyrubin> which I'd want to understand if it maps onto the API you need or not
1042021-03-06T23:53:52 <jeremyrubin> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Taproot_Uses
1052021-03-06T23:57:46 <harding> jeremyrubin: +1
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