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 20 2016-11-30T03:17:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] TheBlueMatt opened pull request #9243: Clean up mapArgs and mapMultiArgs Usage (master...2016-11-mapmultiargs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9243
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 27 2016-11-30T04:42:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kallewoof opened pull request #9244: Trivial refactor: Remove extern keyword from function declarations (master...no-extern-funcdecl) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9244
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 40 2016-11-30T06:45:40  <luke-jr> http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/11/firefox-0day-used-against-tor-users-almost-identical-to-one-fbi-used-in-2013/
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 47 2016-11-30T08:28:25  <gmaxwell> oops #9233 contained a change to ctaes which should have been directed upstream (not like it really matters but the change will potentially get blown away with the next subrepo merge).
 48 2016-11-30T08:28:26  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9233 | Fix some typos by fsb4000 · Pull Request #9233 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
 49 2016-11-30T08:30:09  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #9245: Drop IO priority to idle while reading blocks for getblock requests (master...ionice) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9245
 50 2016-11-30T08:40:47  <jonasschnelli> wumpus: "Doesn't every wallet get its own database environment?" <--- wouldn't this require a "directory" per wallet?
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 52 2016-11-30T08:43:06  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: good point - I wasn't aware that there is a directory - database environment correspondence
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 54 2016-11-30T08:44:32  <luke-jr> wumpus: I put it in util.h cuz I'm not sure what the best way to add a conditional header to the makefiles is :x
 55 2016-11-30T08:44:48  <wumpus> luke-jr: just add it unconditionally
 56 2016-11-30T08:44:52  <luke-jr> I guess it wouldn't be conditional at this point
 57 2016-11-30T08:45:04  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: if BITCOIN_CORE_H+=?
 58 2016-11-30T08:45:06  <wumpus> luke-jr: we do want this functionality for windows eventualy (though it's ok if you don't do thatin your pull)
 59 2016-11-30T08:45:18  <luke-jr> jonasschnelli: yeah, but it's resolved earlier than it can be added cleanly
 60 2016-11-30T08:45:28  * luke-jr wonders if Windows has IO priorities
 61 2016-11-30T08:45:30  <wumpus> it's better to not have conditional headers
 62 2016-11-30T08:45:32  <wumpus> yes, it has
 63 2016-11-30T08:46:16  <wumpus> in any case you should make at least the interface abstract, that the implementation is empty on windows for now is ok
 64 2016-11-30T08:46:36  <luke-jr> it's pretty abstract right now?
 65 2016-11-30T08:46:49  <wumpus> yes, but it wouldn't be if you make the header conditional
 66 2016-11-30T08:47:03  <jonasschnelli> I think this should also work on OSX.
 67 2016-11-30T08:47:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] gmaxwell opened pull request #9246: Developer docs about existing subtrees. (master...devdocs_for_subtrees) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9246
 68 2016-11-30T08:47:30  <gmaxwell> wumpus: yea, there is an enviroment/directory correspondance.
 69 2016-11-30T08:47:53  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: would this also affect filtered blocks?
 70 2016-11-30T08:47:56  * gmaxwell wonders if fanquake is automated, he was so fast tagging that PR.
 71 2016-11-30T08:48:03  <jonasschnelli> heh
 72 2016-11-30T08:48:04  <luke-jr> jonasschnelli: yes, that's intentional
 73 2016-11-30T08:48:21  <wumpus> luke-jr: my comment was completely about code organization, if you make a util_prio.cpp, you should define the interface in util_prio.h, this makes it easier to find stuff :)
 74 2016-11-30T08:48:34  <jonasschnelli> Yes. I though about an option to only prio down the filtere blocks (not the non-filtered).
 75 2016-11-30T08:48:47  <wumpus> yes he is fast
 76 2016-11-30T08:49:01  <luke-jr> hmm, other util files don't have an underscore; should I rename it?
 77 2016-11-30T08:49:12  <wumpus> gmaxwell: bummer
 78 2016-11-30T08:49:44  <wumpus> luke-jr: yes, would make sense for consistency
 79 2016-11-30T08:50:46  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: well further options could be added later I suppose
 80 2016-11-30T08:51:16  <luke-jr> along these lines, I was pondering adding DSCP flags at the network level too
 81 2016-11-30T08:51:21  <luke-jr> but that seems invasive
 82 2016-11-30T08:51:54  <wumpus> luke-jr: does libevent support that?
 83 2016-11-30T08:51:58  <luke-jr> no idea :x
 84 2016-11-30T08:52:26  <gmaxwell> luke-jr: actually doesn't usually help. ... turns out that lots of network gear ignores it and a lot of what doesn't will do terrible things like drop all the marked packets. :(
 85 2016-11-30T08:52:32  <wumpus> I wouldn't recomment hacking on low level bits of the network code as it's going to be ripped out anyway
 86 2016-11-30T08:53:19  <wumpus> do torrent clients use that?
 87 2016-11-30T08:53:20  <luke-jr> gmaxwell: really? to try to survive with this DSL I have my router tagging everything differently :x
 88 2016-11-30T08:53:44  <wumpus> or is it something you would usually define at the OS/firewall level?
 89 2016-11-30T08:53:50  <luke-jr> my torrent client has a field for it, but it seems to be set to 0
 90 2016-11-30T08:54:22  <gmaxwell> torrent mostly uses utp, a reliable transport constructed over UDP that has flow control management that is designed to be as unintrusive as possible... slow downs when it detects delay going up.
 91 2016-11-30T08:54:37  <gmaxwell> And the use of UDP allows it to do hole punching, of course.
 92 2016-11-30T08:54:47  <wumpus> interesting
 93 2016-11-30T08:55:33  <wumpus> I had no idea bittorrent implemented its own bulk data transfer protocol on top of UDP
 94 2016-11-30T08:55:44  <wumpus> thought it used udp just for negotiation and distributed hash tables and such
 95 2016-11-30T08:55:48  <gmaxwell> I don't think any of the utp stuff is using DSCP, it could, but as I mentioned there are networks that respond poorly to it. (not that many, but enough that I've seen multiple pieces of software in the past deploy bits of tagging then either take it out or add more code to detect stupidity and adapt)
 96 2016-11-30T08:56:13  <gmaxwell> yea, it's why ISPs mostly dropped the war on bittorrent. :P
 97 2016-11-30T08:56:25  <gmaxwell> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Transport_Protocol
 98 2016-11-30T08:57:33  <wumpus> would be interesting to use something similar
 99 2016-11-30T08:58:00  <jonasschnelli> Wasn't aware of uTP, very interesting.
100 2016-11-30T08:58:07  <gmaxwell> Yep. It's just a ... big project. I thought maybe after our networking is cleaner adding other transports might be easier.
101 2016-11-30T09:00:26  <wumpus> it's a big project though I guess if some of the implementation coudl be shared with some bittorrent implementation, it'd help - transferring historical blocks isn't that different from transferring other data
102 2016-11-30T09:00:42  <gmaxwell> (mostly interesting for block syncing, though the fact that it does hole punching is useful too. and of course, fibre has a udp based transport for blocks on the tip-- designed for an entirely different goal, latency minimization).
103 2016-11-30T09:00:47  * wumpus always thought bittorrent was just dumb dump-data-over-TCP
104 2016-11-30T09:00:56  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: OSX: "checking for ioprio syscalls... no"
105 2016-11-30T09:01:10  <gmaxwell> wumpus: there is a libutp, I dunno about its quality.
106 2016-11-30T09:01:35  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: But it should work on OSX AFAIK, others are also using it: https://github.com/daliworks/busybox-osx/blob/master/miscutils/ionice.c#L23
107 2016-11-30T09:01:55  <gmaxwell> wumpus: no the dump-data-over-tcp with many parallel connections is pretty unfriendly to other traffic on the network, tends to irritate users and ISPs.. :)
108 2016-11-30T09:02:13  <gmaxwell> and also doesn't traverse NAT without heroic efforts.
109 2016-11-30T09:02:13  <luke-jr> jonasschnelli: dunno how..
110 2016-11-30T09:02:31  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: can you check in config.log why?
111 2016-11-30T09:03:30  <wumpus> gmaxwell: true, though the main user of upnp seems to be torrent clients too - that put me on the wrong track, probably just as a fallback if the hole punching doesn't work
112 2016-11-30T09:04:52  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr, wumpus: conftest.cpp:61:21: error: use of undeclared identifier 'SYS_ioprio_get'
113 2016-11-30T09:04:58  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: oh wait it's actually directly calling syscalls, yea that won't work on anything but Linux. You probably need to just add a specific implementation for macosx
114 2016-11-30T09:05:17  <luke-jr> wumpus: BSD seems to use the same syscall macro though
115 2016-11-30T09:05:26  <luke-jr> jonasschnelli: maybe a new header needed?
116 2016-11-30T09:05:35  <wumpus> but the syscalls will be named differently and have a different interface
117 2016-11-30T09:05:43  <wumpus> certainly obscure ones like this
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120 2016-11-30T09:07:05  <luke-jr> looks like this abstraction isn't going to work for Windows
121 2016-11-30T09:07:25  <luke-jr> it can only set threads low-priority for IO, CPU, and paging at the same time; or set IO alone per-fd
122 2016-11-30T09:07:43  <jonasschnelli> I'll have a look for OSX.
123 2016-11-30T09:07:51  <luke-jr> per-fd is probably ideal, but will require API changes
124 2016-11-30T09:08:22  <wumpus> per-fd is neat
125 2016-11-30T09:08:48  <gmaxwell> Per-fd is super neat.
126 2016-11-30T09:09:21  <gmaxwell> luke-jr: rather than IO-nicing it might be better to just rate limit responses.
127 2016-11-30T09:10:15  <luke-jr> that doesn't allow an idle PC to max out IO, nor an active PC to throttle it down further :x
128 2016-11-30T09:14:56  <wumpus> might be even better to do both
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130 2016-11-30T09:15:27  <nsh> what's the proposal? block data restructuring or rethreading or something?
131 2016-11-30T09:15:35  * nsh reads backscroll
132 2016-11-30T09:15:40  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: I guess oSX only has the general priority which affects the IO prio: https://developer.apple.com/legacy/library/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man2/setpriority.2.html
133 2016-11-30T09:15:40  <wumpus> huh
134 2016-11-30T09:16:00  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: 'legacy' :-)
135 2016-11-30T09:16:04  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: what about: https://developer.apple.com/legacy/library/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man3/setiopolicy_np.3.html#//apple_ref/doc/man/3/setiopolicy_np?
136 2016-11-30T09:16:12  <jonasschnelli> setiopolicy_np seems stdc?
137 2016-11-30T09:16:47  <jonasschnelli> Probably a BSD thing
138 2016-11-30T09:17:38  <luke-jr> is it bad to have an empty .o file?
139 2016-11-30T09:17:48  <wumpus> luke-jr: nope
140 2016-11-30T09:17:49  <luke-jr> jonasschnelli: _np means non-portable
141 2016-11-30T09:17:55  * jonasschnelli thinks throttling IO will require platform specific code
142 2016-11-30T09:19:21  <wumpus> well it certainly ain't stdc, if it'd be anything it'd be POSIX, but no, no such functions in posix. Posix threading has a general concept of priority but i/o specific is too new and fancy.
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144 2016-11-30T09:20:57  <luke-jr> jonasschnelli: IOPOL_UTILITY sound about right?
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146 2016-11-30T09:21:23  <jonasschnelli> Yes. That level would be desirtable.
147 2016-11-30T09:21:32  <jonasschnelli> But do we want all this custom platform specific code in our codebase?
148 2016-11-30T09:21:41  <jonasschnelli> I think its nice. I probably would go for it.
149 2016-11-30T09:30:46  <luke-jr> done I think
150 2016-11-30T09:31:06  <luke-jr> I was tempted to make it support platforms with BOTH ioprio and iopolicy, and retry the alternate if the first fails, but meh
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173 2016-11-30T11:45:43  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e56cf67e6b3f...56bee4986d11
174 2016-11-30T11:45:43  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7d3b627 Wladimir J. van der Laan: torcontrol: Explicitly request RSA1024 private key...
175 2016-11-30T11:45:44  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 56bee49 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #9234: torcontrol: Explicitly request RSA1024 private key...
176 2016-11-30T11:45:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #9234: torcontrol: Explicitly request RSA1024 private key (master...2016_11_torcontrol_key_ttpe) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9234
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178 2016-11-30T11:51:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to 0.13: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/94531b53509470e01dcbd90275577cb37a794fa8
179 2016-11-30T11:51:49  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.13 94531b5 Wladimir J. van der Laan: torcontrol: Explicitly request RSA1024 private key...
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214 2016-11-30T15:27:20  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] wodry opened pull request #9249: Improvement of documentation of command line parameter 'whitelist' (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9249
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230 2016-11-30T16:22:53  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] wodry opened pull request #9251: Improvement of documentation of command line parameter 'whitelist' (master...patch-3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9251
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246 2016-11-30T17:34:45  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] wodry closed pull request #9249: Improvement of documentation of command line parameter 'whitelist' (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9249
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255 2016-11-30T18:51:50  <bobbytux> hello all
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257 2016-11-30T18:57:14  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sdaftuar opened pull request #9252: Release cs_main before calling ProcessNewBlock (cmpctblock handling) (master...cb-lock) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9252
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