1 2017-03-15T00:01:56  <gmaxwell> TD-Linux: the link below the comment luke adds.
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  3 2017-03-15T00:04:23  <TD-Linux> oh duh
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 14 2017-03-15T01:29:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] askmike opened pull request #9994: [trivial/doc] clearify current blockchain size (master...update-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9994
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 19 2017-03-15T01:43:25  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] askmike closed pull request #9994: [trivial/doc] clarify current blockchain size (master...update-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9994
 20 2017-03-15T01:47:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] askmike opened pull request #9995: [trvial/doc] clarify current blockchain size (master...update-doc-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9995
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 46 2017-03-15T04:03:51  <NicolasDorier> afk11_: next time you need a block you can use https://api.qbit.ninja/blocks/[block]?format=raw where [block] can be height, hash, or tip. They can be combined with an offset like https://api.qbit.ninja/blocks/tip-2?format=raw to the block at (tip-1) height
 47 2017-03-15T04:04:25  <NicolasDorier> sorry tapi for testnet
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 57 2017-03-15T05:20:22  <NicolasDorier> does anyone successfully ran bitcoind on a network share (datadir on cifs) ? it think it always worked for me but somehow it does not anymore
 58 2017-03-15T05:21:21  <NicolasDorier> I don't think it has to do with a recent commit either
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 61 2017-03-15T06:49:39  <warren> gmaxwell: oh damn.  You're right.  I somehow failed to look at it that way.  This is even more clever than I thought it was!
 62 2017-03-15T06:50:51  <gmaxwell> warren: woot. another person enlightenend.
 63 2017-03-15T07:00:09  <warren> Makes a lot more sense why 4x isn't arbitrary!
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 71 2017-03-15T07:37:25  <wumpus> NicolasDorier: what kind of network share?
 72 2017-03-15T07:37:46  <NicolasDorier> Windows network share cifs I am trying to debug into leveldb right now
 73 2017-03-15T07:38:13  <wumpus> NicolasDorier: some of the databases have problems with network shares of some kinds
 74 2017-03-15T07:38:27  <NicolasDorier> yeah the strange thing is that up till now it was working fine
 75 2017-03-15T07:38:40  <wumpus> I think I worked around that with symlinking just the blocks directory there a few times, but that's not something that will work on windows
 76 2017-03-15T07:39:04  <NicolasDorier> I tried to do that
 77 2017-03-15T07:39:15  <NicolasDorier> for some reason with rpc-test it does not work
 78 2017-03-15T07:39:37  <NicolasDorier> if I run bitcoind with datadir in my sym link it works fine
 79 2017-03-15T07:39:44  <NicolasDorier> somehow if I run the tests it does not
 80 2017-03-15T07:39:48  <wumpus> anyhow, improving leveldb to work with those FSes would make sense
 81 2017-03-15T07:39:56  <NicolasDorier> I am debugging it now
 82 2017-03-15T07:40:10  <wumpus> the tests don't use your datadirectory they create their own
 83 2017-03-15T07:40:12  <NicolasDorier> problem in PosixWriteableFile::SyncDirIfManifest
 84 2017-03-15T07:40:25  <NicolasDorier> I know, in /qa/cache
 85 2017-03-15T07:40:29  <wumpus> PosixWritableFile shouldn't be used on windows at all
 86 2017-03-15T07:40:45  <NicolasDorier> I know
 87 2017-03-15T07:40:50  <NicolasDorier> I am compiling on linux
 88 2017-03-15T07:40:53  <NicolasDorier> and running tests on linux
 89 2017-03-15T07:40:58  <wumpus> there's a Win32 environment that we use for windows
 90 2017-03-15T07:41:02  <NicolasDorier> except the code is on a share network  drive
 91 2017-03-15T07:41:07  <NicolasDorier> I do that to code with visual studio
 92 2017-03-15T07:41:10  <wumpus> ohh
 93 2017-03-15T07:41:36  <wumpus> don't out-of-tree builds help there?
 94 2017-03-15T07:42:00  <wumpus> maybe the test framework needs a way where to put its cra^D^D^D cache
 95 2017-03-15T07:42:24  <NicolasDorier> out-of-tree builds ?
 96 2017-03-15T07:42:48  <wumpus> yes. calling configure from outside the source tree to put the build output there
 97 2017-03-15T07:42:50  <wumpus> https://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/html_node/VPATH-Builds.html
 98 2017-03-15T07:43:35  <wumpus> it's designed for cases where the source is on say, a network share, and the build artifacts should go to some big fast local drive
 99 2017-03-15T07:43:44  <NicolasDorier> oh I did not know.
100 2017-03-15T07:43:53  <NicolasDorier> I will first try to pinpoint why it fails in leveldb
101 2017-03-15T07:43:59  <NicolasDorier> if it fails I will do that
102 2017-03-15T07:44:18  <wumpus> well up until a few versions ago it didn't work with bitcoin core due to how we integrated leveldb. It works for 0.13/0.14 at least though
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104 2017-03-15T07:48:04  <NicolasDorier> wumpus: it is fsync() which fail
105 2017-03-15T07:48:31  <NicolasDorier> with errno == 22
106 2017-03-15T07:49:04  <NicolasDorier> will find out why oO
107 2017-03-15T07:50:18  <NicolasDorier> wumpus: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/fsync.2.html EINVAL error
108 2017-03-15T07:50:21  <NicolasDorier> it makes sense
109 2017-03-15T07:50:21  <wumpus> ah our good friend EINVAL
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111 2017-03-15T07:50:31  <NicolasDorier> but this blow mymind that it worked before
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113 2017-03-15T07:51:21  <wumpus> a "special file" which does not support synchronization
114 2017-03-15T07:51:49  <wumpus> I'd read that as "device" or "pipe", not so much any random file on a network OS. But yes it's clear, network filesystems cannot give that guarantee either.
115 2017-03-15T07:52:57  <NicolasDorier> wondering if it is not my docker which got sneaky upgraded and use a network share for file sharing with the container instead of something else... But even then, I remember running bitcoin core on a network share just fine in the passt
116 2017-03-15T07:53:34  <wumpus> maybe cifs mounts have some mount settings that specify how to handle syncs?
117 2017-03-15T07:54:53  <wumpus> could also be a server setting but I'd think that less likely
118 2017-03-15T07:55:18  <NicolasDorier> searching... when I do mount : // on /home/bitcoin type cifs
119 2017-03-15T07:55:18  <NicolasDorier> (rw,relatime,vers=3.02,sec=ntlmssp,cache=strict,username=NicolasDorier,domain=DESKTOP-M7N69JH,uid=0,noforceuid,gid=0,noforcegid,addr=,file_mode=0755,dir_mode=0755,iocharset=utf8,nounix,serverino,mapposix,nobrl,mfsymlinks,noperm,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,echo_interval=60,actimeo=1)
120 2017-03-15T07:55:32  <wumpus> nfs did have some extra daemon that needed to be installed to handle that at some point, I vaguely remember or probably misremember
121 2017-03-15T07:56:23  <wumpus> in any case you can make a minimal reproduction now - a small program that just opens a file on the network FS and tries to fsync() it
122 2017-03-15T07:56:52  <wumpus> a lot easier for testing than launching the whole bitcoind monilith
123 2017-03-15T07:57:13  <NicolasDorier> yep
124 2017-03-15T07:58:17  <wumpus> googling fsync cifs gives a lot of results about similar issues with other database products
125 2017-03-15T07:59:30  <NicolasDorier> yes this one seems relevant https://github.com/docker/for-win/issues/445
126 2017-03-15T07:59:41  <NicolasDorier> but still wondering why it worked before
127 2017-03-15T07:59:45  <wumpus> most common recommendation is "ignore EINVAL for fsync". I guess it's something that should log a warning once, then just continue
128 2017-03-15T08:00:15  <NicolasDorier> I can do that at leveldb level yes
129 2017-03-15T08:00:37  <NicolasDorier> is there a way to print leveldb warning in the console ?
130 2017-03-15T08:00:39  <wumpus> it is a data coherency issue and in the case of crashes not being able to guarantee synced-ness is a bad thing, but it's not a reason to crash out
131 2017-03-15T08:00:44  <NicolasDorier> I saw leveldb has its own log stuff
132 2017-03-15T08:00:46  <wumpus> it'd have to go to the bitcoind log some way, not the console
133 2017-03-15T08:00:57  <NicolasDorier> yes
134 2017-03-15T08:00:58  <wumpus> maybe leveldb logging can be redirected there
135 2017-03-15T08:01:14  <NicolasDorier> this is not done currently right ?
136 2017-03-15T08:01:27  <wumpus> no, I don't think so. It probably should be done though
137 2017-03-15T08:01:44  <wumpus> for all we know leveldb has been spewing other useful warnings and errors and we've been ignoring them
138 2017-03-15T08:01:44  <NicolasDorier> ok I will work on a PR trying to fix all this stuff
139 2017-03-15T08:02:25  <wumpus> we do do that for libevent, for example, we register handlers for their log messages and redirect them to our log
140 2017-03-15T08:04:10  <wumpus> but yes it is weird that this just happened and worked before
141 2017-03-15T08:04:21  <wumpus> some version upgrade maybe changed the behavior
142 2017-03-15T08:06:10  <wumpus> Add new mount
143 2017-03-15T08:06:10  <wumpus>  parameter to allow user to disable sending the (slow) SMB flush on
144 2017-03-15T08:06:10  <wumpus>  fsync if desired (fsync still flushes all cached write data to the server).
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146 2017-03-15T08:06:56  <wumpus> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/cifs/CHANGES version 1.57
147 2017-03-15T08:07:10  <wumpus> it doesn't say what that parameter is, though
148 2017-03-15T08:07:30  <wumpus> but this implies that fsync should simply work?
149 2017-03-15T08:07:52  <wumpus> even with disabling it it still flushes the data to the server,which is what it should do
150 2017-03-15T08:08:25  <NicolasDorier> I have not updated my environment I think
151 2017-03-15T08:08:30  <wumpus> it doesn't guarantee that the server will have written the data to disk, but it does guarantee that it is written to the server
152 2017-03-15T08:09:18  <wumpus> so maybe it is worth doing another pass over local settings and configuration before resorting to leveldb changes, I don't know
153 2017-03-15T08:09:19  <NicolasDorier> so it should support it in theory
154 2017-03-15T08:09:25  <wumpus> yes
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156 2017-03-15T08:10:19  <NicolasDorier> might it be a SMB error caused by a windows update
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159 2017-03-15T08:10:52  <NicolasDorier> I am quite sure my linux environemnt have not moved, I always work on fresh container of always the same image
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162 2017-03-15T08:13:09  <NicolasDorier> ok I will just fix it in leveldb for now
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164 2017-03-15T08:13:41  <wumpus> all the results I find deal with fsync on directories, which is apparently not always supported
165 2017-03-15T08:16:07  <wumpus> I don't think leveldb does that, or does it?
166 2017-03-15T08:16:37  <wumpus> oh it does!
167 2017-03-15T08:16:50  <wumpus> that's what "SyncDirIfManifest" is about, it syncs the dir
168 2017-03-15T08:17:00  <wumpus> NicolasDorier: ^^ okay yes patching leveldb is the way forward
169 2017-03-15T08:17:55  <NicolasDorier> ok. I will do that and try to add log support
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172 2017-03-15T08:34:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kobake opened pull request #9998: tests: Remove unused function dumpKeyInfo (master...remove-unused-dump-function) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9998
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179 2017-03-15T09:45:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] NicolasDorier opened pull request #9999: [LevelDB] Plug leveldb logs to bitcoin logs (master...leveldblog) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9999
180 2017-03-15T09:47:37  <Victorsueca> quick! someone make another PR so you're the PR #10000!
181 2017-03-15T09:47:38  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10000 | HTTP Error 404: Not Found
182 2017-03-15T09:47:55  <Victorsueca> :v
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186 2017-03-15T10:01:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] NicolasDorier opened pull request #10000: [LevelDB] Do no crash if filesystem can't fsync (master...fsync) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10000
187 2017-03-15T10:02:21  <Victorsueca> \o/
188 2017-03-15T10:02:59  <Victorsueca> Happy 10000 PRs!
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190 2017-03-15T10:04:12  <NicolasDorier> OH YEAH
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192 2017-03-15T10:12:30  <wumpus> whoa PR 10000 party
193 2017-03-15T10:29:28  <rabidus> \o/
194 2017-03-15T10:30:19  <luke-jr> why are LevelDB stuff being submitted to Core's git?
195 2017-03-15T10:31:14  <wumpus> for visibility
196 2017-03-15T10:32:18  <luke-jr> makes sense I guess. (maybe should have a label "DO NOT MERGE"?)
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205 2017-03-15T11:01:20  <wumpus> NicolasDorier: any idea where leveldb uses logging, if the logger is not generally passed around?
206 2017-03-15T11:02:00  <wumpus> NicolasDorier: uhm.
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208 2017-03-15T11:02:44  <wumpus> NicolasDorier: I never mind, I was confused, thought I saw a global log function in leveldb
209 2017-03-15T11:03:20  <wumpus> looks like it is used for some low-level logging in db_impl.cc
210 2017-03-15T11:04:03  <wumpus> so it's more like a debug log than an error/warning log
211 2017-03-15T11:04:40  <wumpus> void DBImpl::MaybeIgnoreError(Status* s) const also uses it (but it's never triggered as with paranoid checks it doesn't ignore any errors)
212 2017-03-15T11:05:27  <wumpus> I guess it can't hurt to bridge the leveldb logger to our debug log (as you did, as a separate logging category) in any case, but just wondering what messages we've been missing
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226 2017-03-15T12:37:34  <NicolasDorier> wumpus: it seems there use only options_.info_log
227 2017-03-15T12:37:46  <NicolasDorier> I don't find the debug logs you are telling me
228 2017-03-15T12:40:39  <NicolasDorier> wumpus: this is a joke.... I came back home from my coffee shop and now I do not have fsync error.... there is a phase-of-the-moon bug somewhere
229 2017-03-15T12:41:01  <NicolasDorier> ha maybe I did not recompiled
230 2017-03-15T12:43:40  <NicolasDorier> ha no it is crashing... I thought being crazy for a while
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236 2017-03-15T13:43:52  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] greenaddress opened pull request #10002: fix gitian doc example script typo (master...gitian_typos) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10002
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251 2017-03-15T14:42:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kobake closed pull request #9998: tests: Remove unused function dumpKeyInfo (master...remove-unused-dump-function) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9998
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