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 34 2017-05-19T02:36:26  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jtimon opened pull request #10427: Consensus: Introduce static GetScriptFlags (mostly MOVEONLY) (master...b15-consensus-script-flags-min) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10427
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 41 2017-05-19T02:55:57  <luke-jr> ugh, it's like people refactored Core intentionally to make this rebase harder! (I know that's not the case..)
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 46 2017-05-19T03:36:56  <jtimon> updated https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10118
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 51 2017-05-19T04:02:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] earonesty opened pull request #10428: -bip148 option (0.14...0.14) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10428
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 54 2017-05-19T04:15:46  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theuni opened pull request #10429: tests: fix spurious addrman test failure (master...fix-addrman-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10429
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 57 2017-05-19T04:30:51  <SopaXorzTaker> guys, I want to propose a BIP
 58 2017-05-19T04:31:11  <SopaXorzTaker> Let's bring back the removed script opcodes, and standartize their behavior
 59 2017-05-19T04:31:17  <ajd_> have you tried the mailing list?
 60 2017-05-19T04:31:39  <SopaXorzTaker> ajd_, well, I've never had an experience with mailing lists
 61 2017-05-19T04:31:48  <SopaXorzTaker> where can it be found?
 62 2017-05-19T04:32:24  <ajd_> hold on lmgtfy
 63 2017-05-19T04:32:57  <ajd_> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
 64 2017-05-19T04:33:34  <ajd_> not sure how successful you'll be but probably not less successful than pitching it here
 65 2017-05-19T04:33:54  <SopaXorzTaker> hmm
 66 2017-05-19T04:33:58  <SopaXorzTaker> yup, found that
 67 2017-05-19T04:34:07  <SopaXorzTaker> um, what should I write?
 68 2017-05-19T04:34:25  <SopaXorzTaker> "Umm guys do u wanna look at my BIP proposal?"
 69 2017-05-19T04:35:23  <ajd_> - Posts should be technical or academic in nature.
 70 2017-05-19T04:35:24  <ajd_> - Generally encouraged: patches, notification of pull requests, BIP proposals, academic paper announcements. And discussions that follow.
 71 2017-05-19T04:35:24  <ajd_> - Generally discouraged: shower thoughts, wild speculation, jokes, +1s, non-technical bitcoin issues, rehashing settled topics without new data, moderation concerns.
 72 2017-05-19T04:36:19  <ajd_> maybe better to run the proposal past the people in #bitcoin first
 73 2017-05-19T04:36:35  <ajd_> Anyway I'm going to shut up now
 74 2017-05-19T04:41:35  <SopaXorzTaker> hmm
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 77 2017-05-19T04:58:34  <SopaXorzTaker> BTW, just a core dev question
 78 2017-05-19T04:58:44  <SopaXorzTaker> do we prune old UTXOs?
 79 2017-05-19T04:59:22  <SopaXorzTaker> If not, I'd suggest keeping ones older than a parameter in on-disk cache, and allocating memory only for the new ones
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 81 2017-05-19T05:26:40  <luke-jr> SopaXorzTaker: please at least understand things before making suggestions.. all UTXOs are kept primarily in an on-disk database
 82 2017-05-19T05:44:54  <sipa> SopaXorzTaker: please go away
 83 2017-05-19T05:45:10  <sipa> SopaXorzTaker: you've been told repeatedly to not make proposals about changing bitcoin here
 84 2017-05-19T05:46:02  <sipa> the UTXO question is indeed on topic, but you could do some basic research like trying to read the code and ask questions about it
 85 2017-05-19T05:57:01  <SopaXorzTaker> wait
 86 2017-05-19T05:57:12  <SopaXorzTaker> I had that misconception that UTXOs are kept in memory
 87 2017-05-19T05:57:23  <sipa> they are cached in memory
 88 2017-05-19T05:57:29  <sipa> the most recently used ones
 89 2017-05-19T05:58:01  <sipa> -dbcache controls the size of that cache
 90 2017-05-19T05:58:13  <sipa> the default since the latest release is 450 MB
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 92 2017-05-19T06:03:00  <SopaXorzTaker> hm
 93 2017-05-19T06:03:11  <wumpus> also, please don't prefix any question with a "wait!" or "guys!" or "hm" line, you can just go and ask the question
 94 2017-05-19T06:03:14  <SopaXorzTaker> so I tried to oversmart the Core dev team, uh
 95 2017-05-19T06:05:23  <sipa> any idea what's going on here: https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/jobs/233833539
 96 2017-05-19T06:05:55  <sipa> the win32 build repeatedly fails to test... 10 min timeout
 97 2017-05-19T06:06:17  <sipa> if i look at other PRs that succeed there, there is '790s' marker next to that line
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 99 2017-05-19T06:06:56  <wumpus> seems the util test is taking very long
100 2017-05-19T06:07:31  <sipa> i think it's the test_bitcoin
101 2017-05-19T06:07:38  <sipa> just hasn't produced output yet
102 2017-05-19T06:08:55  <sipa> but i don't understand how in normal (succesful) builds, there can be line that takes 790s, while not timing out
103 2017-05-19T06:09:48  <sipa> https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/jobs/233849245#L2526
104 2017-05-19T06:10:14  <sipa> oh, perhaps that 790s for the entire section
105 2017-05-19T06:10:42  <wumpus> maybe it's on the edge of timing out, and usually it falls within the allotted time, but sometimes (due to VM unpredictability) it doesn't
106 2017-05-19T06:11:20  <wumpus> travis issues are usually so hard to debug , especially intermittent ones, it's become its own kind of dread
107 2017-05-19T06:11:35  <sipa> but with 10195 (after the latest rebase, not before) reproducibly times out there
108 2017-05-19T06:12:00  <sipa> can we increase that 10min timeout?
109 2017-05-19T06:12:09  <sipa> or make test_bitcoin print some dots
110 2017-05-19T06:12:55  <sipa> oh, it wouldn't be visible even to travis, as the makefile construction doesn't connect stdout/stderr of the tests with the actual outut
111 2017-05-19T06:13:04  <wumpus> you could increase the verbosity level, but yeah exactly
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113 2017-05-19T06:17:29  <sipa> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10195/commits/71837d800cdacd92ddb5bf8536c0e16338a6a889
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133 2017-05-19T07:59:57  <sipa> seems that worked
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137 2017-05-19T08:24:24  <wumpus> interesting
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140 2017-05-19T08:47:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] paveljanik opened pull request #10431: Prevent shadowing the global dustRelayFee (master...20170519_policy_shadowing) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10431
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144 2017-05-19T09:01:49  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] plaxton opened pull request #10432: [Trivial] Add BITCOIN_FS_H endif footer in fs.h (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10432
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147 2017-05-19T09:51:08  <rafalcpp> Hello. Using your tool github-merge.py - it seems not work in some cases, e.g. it dislikes when one of the files is a symlink, is that not supported?
148 2017-05-19T09:51:21  <rafalcpp> (Using you tool, but for another project)
149 2017-05-19T09:52:28  <wumpus> symlinks are indeed not supported
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151 2017-05-19T09:54:51  <wumpus> (this is partially on purpose, partially because we don't know how to handle them for the treesum - but in any case it prevents symlinks from being introduced to the repository)
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155 2017-05-19T10:01:05  <rafalcpp> wumpus: perhaps like SYMLINK filename targetname? though yeah I guess we can live without symlinks :)
156 2017-05-19T10:02:12  <wumpus> not all OSes support them anyway, and we're slightly afraid it can be used for nefarious things, but for your own project you could patch it to do something with symlinks sure
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164 2017-05-19T10:58:07  <rafalcpp> wumpus: even without the symlink, now both current and older script fails for one of PRs. It worked without problem for hundreds of merges before. Perhaps a bug in the tool, can I PM you urls/example?
165 2017-05-19T10:58:44  <wumpus> sure
166 2017-05-19T10:59:02  <rafalcpp> error is that Automatic merge failed.  How ever, merge  of that author/branch that he tries to PR,  to same target/target_branch that the PR addresses, works fine (even as ff only)
167 2017-05-19T11:01:31  <wumpus> automatic merge failed means that the merge could not be done automatically, it's usually fixed by rebasing the branch
168 2017-05-19T11:01:45  <wumpus> hm okay
169 2017-05-19T11:03:01  <wumpus> what it does is: GIT,'merge','-q','--commit','--no-edit','--no-ff','-m',message.encode('utf-8'),head_branch   ... if that returns a non-zero exit code, you get the "Cannot be merged cleanly" error
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182 2017-05-19T13:50:57  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ea6fde3f1d26...993a1d710e7e
183 2017-05-19T13:50:58  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2300a5e Ahmad Kazi: [Trivial] Add BITCOIN_FS_H endif footer in fs.h
184 2017-05-19T13:50:58  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 993a1d7 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10432: [Trivial] Add BITCOIN_FS_H endif footer in fs.h...
185 2017-05-19T13:51:32  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10432: [Trivial] Add BITCOIN_FS_H endif footer in fs.h (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10432
186 2017-05-19T13:51:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/993a1d710e7e...6b99dafe4204
187 2017-05-19T13:51:58  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6b51b0a Cory Fields: tests: fix spurious addrman test failure...
188 2017-05-19T13:51:59  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6b99daf Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10429: tests: fix spurious addrman test failure...
189 2017-05-19T13:52:33  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10429: tests: fix spurious addrman test failure (master...fix-addrman-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10429
190 2017-05-19T13:55:55  <instagibbs> code seems simple enough, but IsInitialBlockDownload() will return true if IBD || reindex || importing blocks from disk?
191 2017-05-19T13:56:40  <instagibbs> (asking if any sharp edges)
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193 2017-05-19T14:15:06  <wumpus> instagibbs: yes, that's the ida
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203 2017-05-19T15:22:44  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #10433: [tests] improve tmpdir structure (master...test_runner_tmpdir) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10433
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214 2017-05-19T16:51:15  <sipa> so #10426's bogosize counts around 50 bytes per utxo (excluding the scriptPubKey)
215 2017-05-19T16:51:16  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10426 | Replace bytes_serialized with bogosize by sipa · Pull Request #10426 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
216 2017-05-19T16:51:36  <sipa> disksize counts around 19 bytes per utxo
217 2017-05-19T16:55:46  <gmaxwell> if would be more accurate if you made it work in units of nat-bytes. :P
218 2017-05-19T16:55:56  <sipa> hahaha
219 2017-05-19T16:56:06  <sipa> octonats
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225 2017-05-19T18:02:17  <Eliel_> I'm trying to debug a weird problem with the bitcoind wallet occasionally not unlocking after an apparently succesful walletpassphrase RPC call. The sendfrom RPC that follows the unlock errors with "Error: Please enter the wallet passphrase with walletpassphra
226 2017-05-19T18:02:21  <Eliel_> se first."
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228 2017-05-19T18:03:36  <Eliel_> I found the debug parameter from bitcoind --help -help-debug. Which categories would make sense to activate? I think at least rpc category, but would other categories be useful?
229 2017-05-19T18:05:34  <Eliel_> maybe lock or http categories as well?
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249 2017-05-19T20:29:03  <Chris_Stewart_5> Why would fundrawtransaction fail with 'Signing Transaction failed'? I thought fundrawtransaction does no signing?
250 2017-05-19T20:32:28  <arubi> it does run some script with a dummy signature in the process though
251 2017-05-19T20:32:46  <arubi> maybe the script you're redeeming is disallowed in itself
252 2017-05-19T20:33:05  <arubi> some = the script being spent in the input
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256 2017-05-19T21:04:33  <instagibbs> Chris_Stewart_5, you likely don't know how to sign an input you included
257 2017-05-19T21:05:09  <instagibbs> oh sorry I see you moved elsewhere, ignore...
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