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12 2017-08-01T01:10:12 <jnewbery> sipa: I've updated the pre-0.8 to 0.15 upgrade advice here: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/0.15.0-Release-notes/6b2669777228f8b0f4059ca3ba1010041e34c4b3
13 2017-08-01T01:10:26 <sipa> jnewbery: i saw
14 2017-08-01T01:10:30 <jnewbery> Block file upgrade code removed here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9822
15 2017-08-01T01:12:06 <jnewbery> It's a bit pedantic - probably no-one is running pre-0.8 anymore. I have a slight preference to include the upgrade advice, but won't be too upset if other people vote to remove it.
16 2017-08-01T01:15:14 <sipa> oh, it was actually removed!
17 2017-08-01T01:15:15 <sipa> ok
18 2017-08-01T01:15:28 <sipa> jnewbery: i've also changed all v0.15 notation into 'version' or 'Bitcoin Core'
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20 2017-08-01T01:24:00 <jnewbery> I saw. Looks good to me.
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26 2017-08-01T01:50:58 <Emcy_> 'On Windows, do not forget to uninstall all earlier versions of the Bitcoin client first.' Is this really *necessary*. No one ever does this
27 2017-08-01T01:51:05 <Emcy_> over the top installs happen
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32 2017-08-01T02:10:43 <luke-jr> Emcy_: I have no idea, but we said that in older versions
33 2017-08-01T02:10:51 <luke-jr> Emcy_: if you can confirm it isn't needed, maybe it can be removed
34 2017-08-01T02:12:22 <Emcy_> it seems to be one of those fluff recommendations that windows software makes, like 'reboot your machine after install' as if anyone really does that.
35 2017-08-01T02:12:50 <Emcy_> If its just copying new files over the top i dont see why its necessary. Ill try it when 0.15 comes out
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39 2017-08-01T02:23:55 <theymos> I've never given the advice to uninstall first. In fact, that could conceivably cause problems because uninstalling sometimes creates a one-time run-at-boot task which removes some files that the uninstaller couldn't immediately remove.
40 2017-08-01T02:24:19 <theymos> (Speaking generally here -- I've never looked at the Bitcoin Core installer.)
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42 2017-08-01T02:31:45 <Emcy_> thats true
43 2017-08-01T02:32:26 <Emcy_> tahts what it says in those draft rls notes though, twice in fact and the second time makes it sound like not-boilerplate
44 2017-08-01T02:32:33 <Emcy_> thats why i asked
45 2017-08-01T02:35:18 <theymos> Old versions recommended installing over the old one: https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.12.0
46 2017-08-01T02:35:39 <theymos> The uninstall note must've been added recently. Maybe there's some reason for it, or maybe it was added in error.
47 2017-08-01T02:39:49 <gmaxwell> I've always told people to overinstall.
48 2017-08-01T02:40:09 <gmaxwell> I would be kinda worried about someone managing to delete their chain or wallet if I instructed them to remove!
49 2017-08-01T02:41:15 <gmaxwell> might be useful to investigate the history to see if there was a reason or if it was a copyediting error.
50 2017-08-01T02:41:46 <gmaxwell> generally I'm super scared about telling users to remove or delete anything; lest the next thing I see from them was "okay, I used the system recovery DVD"
51 2017-08-01T02:43:40 <Emcy_> lol
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58 2017-08-01T03:07:38 <luke-jr> Emcy_: when 0.15 comes out, it will be too late to change..
59 2017-08-01T03:08:12 <luke-jr> theymos: I copied the uninstall bit from 0.8 or 0.9 IIRC
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61 2017-08-01T03:09:46 <luke-jr> where are we at with a 0.14.3 with BIP148? I'm going to miss next meeting most likely again :/
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90 2017-08-01T06:31:45 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] coblee opened pull request #10968: Add instructions for parallel gitian builds. (master...coblee_multi_core) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10968
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93 2017-08-01T06:39:35 <BitMEX_Wally> There is a chainsplit in testnet and my 14.1 node is refusing to follow the longest chain after I ran invalidateblock on the short chain
94 2017-08-01T06:39:54 <BitMEX_Wally> getchaintips shows the longest chain as 'headers-only'
95 2017-08-01T06:42:13 <arubi> which block is that BitMEX_Wally ?
96 2017-08-01T06:42:31 <BitMEX_Wally> {
97 2017-08-01T06:42:31 <BitMEX_Wally> "height": 1155846,
98 2017-08-01T06:42:31 <BitMEX_Wally> "hash": "00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e",
99 2017-08-01T06:42:33 <BitMEX_Wally> "branchlen": 41,
100 2017-08-01T06:42:35 <BitMEX_Wally> "status": "headers-only"
101 2017-08-01T06:42:37 <BitMEX_Wally> },
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104 2017-08-01T06:44:15 <arubi> I have it too
105 2017-08-01T06:45:17 <arubi> well, if the node doesn't have the blocks then it can't change to the other chain. maybe someone testing lite wallets?
106 2017-08-01T06:46:19 <BitMEX_Wally> My other node is following that chain
107 2017-08-01T06:46:22 <BitMEX_Wally> So are block explorers: https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/
108 2017-08-01T06:46:46 <gmaxwell> it's really common for the testnet chain with the most work to have fewer blocks FWIW.
109 2017-08-01T06:46:51 <BitMEX_Wally> So how do I get my node to download those blocks? It is currently stuck on 1155805 / 00000000000005757375cdb666a319cf6758d54af7a19da42a96a0551f342d6b and not updating
110 2017-08-01T06:47:09 <BitMEX_Wally> This chain has the most work as far as I can tell
111 2017-08-01T06:47:20 <BitMEX_Wally> height=1155846 log2_work=69.338015
112 2017-08-01T06:47:37 <gmaxwell> BitMEX_Wally: run getblockchainfo to see how much work you have in useful units
113 2017-08-01T06:47:43 <gmaxwell> "chainwork": "000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000028707f523ddd5abd07",
114 2017-08-01T06:48:17 <BitMEX_Wally> "chain": "test",
115 2017-08-01T06:48:17 <BitMEX_Wally> "blocks": 1155805,
116 2017-08-01T06:48:17 <BitMEX_Wally> "headers": 1155846,
117 2017-08-01T06:48:19 <BitMEX_Wally> "bestblockhash": "00000000000005757375cdb666a319cf6758d54af7a19da42a96a0551f342d6b",
118 2017-08-01T06:48:21 <BitMEX_Wally> "difficulty": 2597896.746553252,
119 2017-08-01T06:48:23 <BitMEX_Wally> "mediantime": 1501547517,
120 2017-08-01T06:48:25 <BitMEX_Wally> "verificationprogress": 0.9997853208317297,
121 2017-08-01T06:48:27 <BitMEX_Wally> "chainwork": "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000286d17360b5491b2c3",
122 2017-08-01T06:48:29 <BitMEX_Wally> "pruned": false,
123 2017-08-01T06:48:31 <BitMEX_Wally> "softforks": [
124 2017-08-01T06:48:55 <gmaxwell> okay thats less work than I have. Do you see any invalid in getchaintips or your debug log?
125 2017-08-01T06:50:40 <BitMEX_Wally> [
126 2017-08-01T06:50:40 <BitMEX_Wally> {
127 2017-08-01T06:50:40 <BitMEX_Wally> "height": 1155846,
128 2017-08-01T06:50:41 <BitMEX_Wally> "hash": "00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e",
129 2017-08-01T06:50:43 <BitMEX_Wally> "branchlen": 41,
130 2017-08-01T06:50:45 <BitMEX_Wally> "status": "headers-only"
131 2017-08-01T06:50:47 <BitMEX_Wally> },
132 2017-08-01T06:50:49 <BitMEX_Wally> {
133 2017-08-01T06:50:51 <BitMEX_Wally> "height": 1155831,
134 2017-08-01T06:50:53 <BitMEX_Wally> "hash": "000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640",
135 2017-08-01T06:50:55 <BitMEX_Wally> "branchlen": 26,
136 2017-08-01T06:50:57 <BitMEX_Wally> "status": "invalid"
137 2017-08-01T06:50:59 <BitMEX_Wally> },
138 2017-08-01T06:51:01 <BitMEX_Wally> {
139 2017-08-01T06:51:03 <BitMEX_Wally> "height": 1155807,
140 2017-08-01T06:51:05 <BitMEX_Wally> "hash": "0000000000014b01c3ae388401c8c2d0945ec953f695ea50d357c7bf8bef2279",
141 2017-08-01T06:51:07 <BitMEX_Wally> "branchlen": 2,
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143 2017-08-01T06:51:09 <BitMEX_Wally> "status": "invalid"
144 2017-08-01T06:51:11 <BitMEX_Wally> },
145 2017-08-01T06:51:13 <BitMEX_Wally> {
146 2017-08-01T06:51:15 <BitMEX_Wally> "height": 1155805,
147 2017-08-01T06:51:16 <sipa> please don't copy-paste more than 3 lines
148 2017-08-01T06:51:17 <BitMEX_Wally> "hash": "00000000000005757375cdb666a319cf6758d54af7a19da42a96a0551f342d6b",
149 2017-08-01T06:51:19 <BitMEX_Wally> "branchlen": 0,
150 2017-08-01T06:51:21 <BitMEX_Wally> "status": "active"
151 2017-08-01T06:51:23 <BitMEX_Wally> },
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153 2017-08-01T06:51:30 <gmaxwell> 000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640 is in my best chain here...
154 2017-08-01T06:51:57 <gmaxwell> BitMEX_Wally: so now you need to look in your debug.log to see why 000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640 was rejected as invalid.
155 2017-08-01T06:52:11 <BitMEX_Wally> 1155846 / 00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e has "chainwork": "00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002872d1f10daeee43fa",
156 2017-08-01T06:52:13 <gmaxwell> look at debug.log and search for 000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640
157 2017-08-01T06:52:27 <BitMEX_Wally> I marked 000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640 as invalid because the other chain had more work
158 2017-08-01T06:53:09 <sipa> you can undo invalidateblock using reconsiderblock
159 2017-08-01T06:53:29 <BitMEX_Wally> Yeah, but then I would be on chain 1155831 again, which is not most work?
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161 2017-08-01T06:55:14 <gmaxwell> my nodes have never seen 00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e
162 2017-08-01T06:55:47 <BitMEX_Wally> 2017-08-01 06:34:13 UpdateTip: new best=00000000c164f6ac32ee23d104a81d7308d23b7a54745b4d613442c8a6c6ee1e height=1155846 log2_work=69.338015 tx=14687012 date=2017-08-01 06:34:10 progress=1.000000 cache=0.7MiB(1148tx)
163 2017-08-01T06:55:48 <BitMEX_Wally> 2017-08-01 05:47:57 UpdateTip: new best=000000000000066cd029ad78432f1c8d30e24459e407cc8f834a4b251bd83640 height=1155831 version=0x20000000 log2_work=69.337605 tx=14686762 date='2017-08-01 05:47:46' progress=1.000000 cache=0.9MiB(2990tx)
164 2017-08-01T06:55:52 <BitMEX_Wally> These are my 2 nodes
165 2017-08-01T06:56:06 <BitMEX_Wally> The longest one definitely has more work
166 2017-08-01T06:56:46 <sipa> are they running the same software?
167 2017-08-01T06:56:49 <BitMEX_Wally> No
168 2017-08-01T06:57:15 <sipa> what are they running?
169 2017-08-01T06:57:19 <BitMEX_Wally> First one (longest) is running v0.12.1
170 2017-08-01T06:57:23 <gmaxwell> gonna guess the more work one is probably segwit invalid.
171 2017-08-01T06:57:29 <BitMEX_Wally> Ahh
172 2017-08-01T06:57:33 <sipa> seems likely, yes
173 2017-08-01T06:57:43 <gmaxwell> oh I just see in your chaintips that you have two invalid blocks there.
174 2017-08-01T06:57:44 <BitMEX_Wally> Why are people still mining it *sigh*
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177 2017-08-01T07:00:11 <gmaxwell> I see smartbits explorer is consistent with my nodes.
178 2017-08-01T07:00:34 <gmaxwell> and I know their explorer is backed by a node that actually verifies things.
179 2017-08-01T07:02:39 <BitMEX_Wally> Ok so I will tell my other node to invalidate those blocks
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181 2017-08-01T07:03:38 <BitMEX_Wally> Then I will put it behind another SegWit ndoe
182 2017-08-01T07:04:01 <gmaxwell> sounds like a good idea.
183 2017-08-01T07:05:38 <BitMEX_Wally> Ok that worked. Sorry to bother you Greg
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185 2017-08-01T07:07:16 <gmaxwell> Don't be. Always feel free to bring concerns like this here!
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228 2017-08-01T10:08:50 <wumpus> MarcoFalke: sipa: certs should be renewed, thanks for the reminder
229 2017-08-01T10:15:05 <wumpus> I feel kind of uncomfortable runinng certbot as root automatically in a crontab, though for availablility it'd probably be a good idea
230 2017-08-01T10:15:25 <wumpus> manually babysitting servers in timely manner is not something I'm good at
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233 2017-08-01T10:26:33 <sam_c> i don't like the idea either
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239 2017-08-01T10:59:17 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 6 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/42307c4bf363...bd924241e7dc
240 2017-08-01T10:59:17 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master eda888e Matt Corallo: Fix some LoadChainTip-related init-order bugs....
241 2017-08-01T10:59:18 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b0f3249 Matt Corallo: More user-friendly error message if UTXO DB runs ahead of block DB...
242 2017-08-01T10:59:18 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ff3a219 Matt Corallo: Call RewindBlockIndex even if we're about to run -reindex-chainstate...
243 2017-08-01T10:59:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10758: Fix some chainstate-init-order bugs. (master...2014-07-nonatomic-flush-fixes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10758
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250 2017-08-01T11:08:16 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bd924241e7dc...754aa02b8a72
251 2017-08-01T11:08:17 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master efeb273 Pieter Wuille: Force on-the-fly compaction during pertxout upgrade
252 2017-08-01T11:08:17 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 754aa02 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10526: Force on-the-fly compaction during pertxout upgrade...
253 2017-08-01T11:08:37 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10526: Force on-the-fly compaction during pertxout upgrade (master...compactrange) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10526
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268 2017-08-01T12:04:35 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #10969: Declare single-argument (non-converting) constructors "explicit" (master...explicit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10969
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275 2017-08-01T12:27:39 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/754aa02b8a72...f66c59650527
276 2017-08-01T12:27:39 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e222dc2 Andrew Chow: Replace ismine with producesignature check in witnessifier...
277 2017-08-01T12:27:39 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f66c596 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #10788: [RPC] Fix addwitnessaddress by replacing ismine with producesignature...
278 2017-08-01T12:28:05 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #10788: [RPC] Fix addwitnessaddress by replacing ismine with producesignature (master...fix-addwitnessaddress) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10788
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387 2017-08-01T18:54:37 <gmaxwell> https://people.xiph.org/~greg/banlist.cli.txt
388 2017-08-01T18:54:41 <gmaxwell> https://people.xiph.org/~greg/banlist.gui.txt
389 2017-08-01T18:56:55 <gmaxwell> Updated my banned node list.
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441 2017-08-01T21:27:38 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theuni opened pull request #10971: build: fix missing warnings and sse42 in depends builds (master...fix-config-override) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10971
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443 2017-08-01T21:37:42 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #10972: Check return value of addr.GetKeyID(keyid) on custom change address change (master...GetKeyID-assertion) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10972
444 2017-08-01T21:40:37 <earlz> Has anyone successfully cross-compiled Bitcoin Core for a raspberry pi? If so, is that process documented somewhere?
445 2017-08-01T21:40:57 <earlz> I saw one tutorial on how to compile it on-device, but I'd rather spend less than 1 day compiling
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448 2017-08-01T21:48:11 <sipa> earlz: more, there are release binaries for ARM
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453 2017-08-01T22:17:39 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky opened pull request #10973: WIP: Add IPC layer between node and wallet (master...pr/wipc-sep) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10973
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457 2017-08-01T22:31:49 <earlz> sipa: how are those made though? Gitian?
458 2017-08-01T22:32:34 <cfields> yes
459 2017-08-01T22:35:03 <earlz> ah
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