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  6 2017-11-13T00:26:02  <ZSky> Hi
  7 2017-11-13T00:27:16  <ZSky> How popular is the idea of moving from hashcash to another one (not requiring ASICs) in Bitcoin core (not a fork but the real one)?
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 25 2017-11-13T01:24:47  <achow101> what's the reason for shutting down after encrypting the wallet?
 26 2017-11-13T01:24:58  <achow101> Is it not sufficient to just close and reopen the wallet?
 27 2017-11-13T01:26:01  <sipa> closing and flushing and snapshotting would be enough
 28 2017-11-13T01:26:17  <sipa> but at the tike encryption was added, there was no multiwallet
 29 2017-11-13T01:26:28  <sipa> so the only way to close the wallet was to shut down
 30 2017-11-13T01:27:29  <achow101> ah, ok. I was thinking that it should be enough to just all StopWallets, CloseWallets, and then OpenWallets after encrypting a wallet
 31 2017-11-13T01:27:51  <achow101> AFAICT that should close, flush everything, remove keys from memory, and then open again
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 33 2017-11-13T01:28:50  <sipa> probably
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 49 2017-11-13T02:44:29  <roconnor> Hi, are there gitian build logs of the build tty output somewhere that I can puruse?
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 51 2017-11-13T02:48:36  <fanquake> rconnor gitian-builder/var/
 52 2017-11-13T02:48:43  <fanquake> should be build.log and install.log
 53 2017-11-13T02:55:50  <roconnor> fanquake: is it available online somewhere?
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 56 2017-11-13T03:17:50  <fanquake> rconnor logs for your own build? I'd hope nope, gitian building is contained to the vm you've setup to build with. Or do you mean gitian build logs for an official release?
 57 2017-11-13T03:18:00  <fanquake> *roconnor
 58 2017-11-13T03:19:14  <fanquake> roconnor The signatures used to create the final release are available from https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gitian.sigs . There is no way to get the various build.logs from each of the individual builders.
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 60 2017-11-13T03:50:25  <roconnor> ok ty
 61 2017-11-13T03:50:56  <achow101> besides deadlock, is there any reason that a lock is not able to be acquired?
 62 2017-11-13T03:51:03  <roconnor> I suppose I just wanted to double check if ccache is being used in the gitian builds.  It seems it is, but I'm presuming to no advantage.
 63 2017-11-13T03:53:05  <achow101> roconnor: why would there be no advantage?
 64 2017-11-13T03:53:50  <roconnor> Maybe I don't understand what ccache does.  I thought it avoid recompiling object files that have been compiled before.
 65 2017-11-13T03:55:10  <achow101> roconnor: yes, it does
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 67 2017-11-13T03:55:30  <achow101> gitian builds multiple binaries for each OS target
 68 2017-11-13T03:55:47  <achow101> well, just the linux one actually
 69 2017-11-13T03:56:23  <roconnor> different OS targets?  can you give an example?
 70 2017-11-13T03:57:35  <achow101> the linux build does 4 different builds, one for each list: HOSTS="i686-pc-linux-gnu x86_64-linux-gnu arm-linux-gnueabihf aarch64-linux-gnu"
 71 2017-11-13T03:58:01  <achow101> Windows does the same: HOSTS="i686-w64-mingw32 x86_64-w64-mingw32"
 72 2017-11-13T03:58:09  <achow101> osx technically does the same, but only has one host
 73 2017-11-13T03:58:28  <roconnor> how can it do x86 and arm and yet share object files?
 74 2017-11-13T04:00:20  <achow101> oh right, hmmm
 75 2017-11-13T04:01:15  <roconnor> If the ccache offers no advantage, perhaps it should be removed from the gitian builds.
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101 2017-11-13T06:35:28  <wumpus> roconnor: ccache is not used in the gitian builds at all, just for travis
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103 2017-11-13T06:36:35  <wumpus> together with travis' caching it makes PRs and new commits compile faster
104 2017-11-13T06:38:16  <wumpus> it just happens that ccache is part of the depends system so it gets built automatically, it builds quickly enough that adding a NO_CCACHE option to depends likely isn't worth the extra complexity
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115 2017-11-13T07:30:02  <wumpus> intermittent error in sendheaders.py test_null_locators, assert_equal(test_node.check_last_announcement(headers=[tip_hash]), True)
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118 2017-11-13T07:42:48  <meshcollider> wumpus: yep I've seen that one before
119 2017-11-13T07:42:55  <meshcollider> Locally
120 2017-11-13T07:43:25  <wumpus> indeed, this was locally too
121 2017-11-13T07:43:35  <wumpus> will create an issue
122 2017-11-13T07:43:46  <meshcollider> Encountered it yesterday while working on 11667
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124 2017-11-13T07:46:51  <wumpus> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11673
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126 2017-11-13T07:47:13  <wumpus> I've seen it on 11651, but makes no sense that it would be caused by that change
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130 2017-11-13T07:59:51  <Lauda> Does 0.15.0 have any bugs that makes the software crash?
131 2017-11-13T08:00:00  <Lauda> Any known*.
132 2017-11-13T08:02:52  <meshcollider> Lauda: 0.15.0 or
133 2017-11-13T08:03:02  <Lauda> 0.15.0
134 2017-11-13T08:03:11  <Lauda> Mine crashed several times with "Error eading from database"
135 2017-11-13T08:03:28  <Lauda> over the last few days. Runs okay for a while and just crashes
136 2017-11-13T08:03:35  <Lauda> updating to right now to compare
137 2017-11-13T08:03:45  <wumpus> 0.15.0 can crash due to corrupt peers.dat, but apart from that, no
138 2017-11-13T08:04:05  <wumpus> this was solved in 0.15.1 (not
139 2017-11-13T08:04:10  <Lauda> Interesting. I wonder what could be causing this.
140 2017-11-13T08:04:16  <Lauda> Erm, sorry. Updating to 0.15.1
141 2017-11-13T08:04:48  <wumpus> without further context it sounds like a hardware issue of some kind
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143 2017-11-13T08:06:28  <wumpus> most of the time database corruptions, if they happen a lot on a single computer, tend to be hw issues (cpu overheat, memory corruption, disk corruption, sometimes due to PSU issues,...)
144 2017-11-13T08:07:54  <wumpus> you could try to debug it if you think it's a sw issue, but the few times I've spend lots of time chasing such an issue I ended up with a faulty component
145 2017-11-13T08:08:31  <wumpus> most amusing was the USB stick that randomly toggles bits on heavy usage
146 2017-11-13T08:10:07  <wumpus> can you pastebin the detailed error?
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152 2017-11-13T08:13:55  <Lauda> Yeah, I had a flaky USB slot back when I had Core on a external HDD which led to a lot of reindexing. I'll try 0.15.1 first and hope that solves. it
153 2017-11-13T08:14:04  <Lauda> From the debug log?
154 2017-11-13T08:14:12  <wumpus> yes
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158 2017-11-13T08:21:25  <wumpus> we really need to add a filename to the leveldb checksum mismatch errors, so people can send to file to be analyzed
159 2017-11-13T08:21:39  <Lauda> ^
160 2017-11-13T08:22:08  <wumpus> I did that locally a long time ago but don't think I still have it
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165 2017-11-13T08:24:11  <Lauda> Shouldn't be too hard?
166 2017-11-13T08:26:37  <wumpus> depends on whether that context is known at the place the exception is thrown
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170 2017-11-13T08:39:05  <wumpus> oh this seems to be easy
171 2017-11-13T08:41:07  <wumpus> but it does need some leveldb changes, e.g. currently RandomAccessFile has no way to get the file name back
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177 2017-11-13T08:51:48  <wumpus> still easy changes though
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179 2017-11-13T08:53:36  <wumpus> I'll have a shot at it
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189 2017-11-13T09:21:31  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #11674: leveldb: Add filename to corruption errors (master...2017_11_leveldb_report_errors) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11674
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191 2017-11-13T09:24:27  <helloBits> Good day chappies
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193 2017-11-13T09:28:18  <Lauda> \o/ wumpus
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226 2017-11-13T11:49:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2adbddb03840...7fbf3c638f3f
227 2017-11-13T11:49:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e0fc4a7 Aaron Clauson: Updated Windows build doc for WSL/Xenial workarounds.
228 2017-11-13T11:49:36  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7383d77 Aaron Clauson: Updated instructions for Windows 10 Fall Creators Update.
229 2017-11-13T11:49:37  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7fbf3c6 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11438: Updated Windows build doc for WSL/Xenial workaround...
230 2017-11-13T11:50:00  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11438: Updated Windows build doc for WSL/Xenial workaround (master...wslbuilddoc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11438
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242 2017-11-13T12:22:43  <Victorsueca> trying to build bitcoin core on WSL, when building the depends it tells me automake is not installed, however it is and both the automake and autoconf commands work when writing them on the terminal
243 2017-11-13T12:22:53  <Victorsueca> any clue of what's going wrong?
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245 2017-11-13T12:24:42  <wumpus> isn't WSL an ever enduring source of issues, just use a real linux or BSD already :)
246 2017-11-13T12:25:30  <Victorsueca> welp, I used to compile it succesfully on WSL with ubuntu 14
247 2017-11-13T12:26:00  <wumpus> yes I'm just kidding, it should work, it's just that there's so many problems reported with it all over the place
248 2017-11-13T12:26:16  <wumpus> so many "fixes" to that doc
249 2017-11-13T12:26:18  <Victorsueca> yeah, totally agree, WSL is just a pain in the arse
250 2017-11-13T12:27:10  <Victorsueca> I still have the Ubuntu 14 WSL on another machine and I can use that to build it
251 2017-11-13T12:27:16  <wumpus> in theory it's simply a ubuntu "VM", that's how it started and worked fine w/ 14.04, but they started injecting the environment from windows in it
252 2017-11-13T12:27:57  <wumpus> the more it mutates into some hybrid monster
253 2017-11-13T12:28:22  <Victorsueca> Basically, getting something that already exists and doing exactly the same but in incompatible ways
254 2017-11-13T12:28:33  <Victorsueca> has Microsoft ever done anything other than that? ;)
255 2017-11-13T12:28:36  <wumpus> embrace and extinguish (tm)
256 2017-11-13T12:30:56  <Victorsueca> Currently building 0.15.1 on the old WSL, works fine as always
257 2017-11-13T12:31:14  <Victorsueca> but I'd like to get the new one working for damn once
258 2017-11-13T12:32:30  <Victorsueca> So, more specifically, it's asking for automake-1.14
259 2017-11-13T12:32:58  <Victorsueca> but the distro repositories only have automake-1.11 and automake-1.15
260 2017-11-13T12:33:05  <wumpus> it shouldn't require a specific automake version. Did you perhaps upgrade something, without cleaning your tree?
261 2017-11-13T12:33:05  <Victorsueca> could it be just a version missmatch?
262 2017-11-13T12:33:32  <wumpus> sometimes there are leftovers from scripts generated from old versions in the way
263 2017-11-13T12:33:43  <Victorsueca> nope, it's a fresh WSL, just ran the commands stated on the windows build doc
264 2017-11-13T12:34:10  <Victorsueca> except the Xenial workaround
265 2017-11-13T12:34:19  <Victorsueca> which I did later today when the doc updated
266 2017-11-13T12:37:26  <wumpus> the xenial workaround changes to some newer versions using backported packages, that's exactly the change that can result in what I said
267 2017-11-13T12:38:22  <Victorsueca> thought so, it was worth mentioning that
268 2017-11-13T12:38:35  <Victorsueca> so, now how do I clean this?
269 2017-11-13T12:39:43  <wumpus> I'd move away the depends/sources directory, than git clean -f -x -d, move it back, and start over
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271 2017-11-13T12:46:59  <Victorsueca> wumpus: done, still same problem
272 2017-11-13T12:47:22  <wumpus> ok... no clue in that case
273 2017-11-13T12:47:55  <Victorsueca> I think it's worth mentioning also that I tried to make the depends before the xenial workaround, and got the same issue
274 2017-11-13T12:48:09  <Victorsueca> I hoped that the workaround would fix it
275 2017-11-13T12:48:47  <wumpus> the workaround is for generating broken executables
276 2017-11-13T12:48:57  <wumpus> it should still build...
277 2017-11-13T12:53:14  <Victorsueca> hmmm
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279 2017-11-13T13:02:08  <Victorsueca> just noticed that ccache built successfully
280 2017-11-13T13:02:30  <Victorsueca> it fails when it tries to build native_protobuf
281 2017-11-13T13:04:14  <Victorsueca> wumpus: I think I found the problem
282 2017-11-13T13:05:56  <Victorsueca>  /depends/work/build/x86_64-w64-mingw32/native_protobuf/2.6.1-38b82cbb6fc on line 81
283 2017-11-13T13:06:27  <Victorsueca> it's trying to run automake-1.14
284 2017-11-13T13:07:11  <wumpus> can you pastebin the file plesae?
285 2017-11-13T13:07:26  <Victorsueca> on the way
286 2017-11-13T13:10:03  <wumpus> that's a strange file name, are you sure it's called like that, without an extension?
287 2017-11-13T13:10:28  <Victorsueca> nope, it's a dir, I think the file is Makefile.in
288 2017-11-13T13:11:23  <Victorsueca> I'll just pastebin the console so you can tell me for sure which file should I send
289 2017-11-13T13:13:10  <Victorsueca> wumpus: https://0bin.net/paste/NCCZM8Etb52NvGhW#BdyXYVQzaGTwy+xcK75FLDyCA6NOBcwl2BxpwhL6i1D
290 2017-11-13T13:14:38  <wumpus> "missing" is a generated file
291 2017-11-13T13:14:50  <wumpus> are you sure cleaning the tree actually cleaned up all that?
292 2017-11-13T13:15:38  <wumpus> hrm, I think I know the issue
293 2017-11-13T13:15:51  <wumpus> Victorsueca: you should build from the linux fs, not the mounted windows fs
294 2017-11-13T13:16:16  <Victorsueca> ok, trying that now
295 2017-11-13T13:16:21  <wumpus> the windows fs emulation botches timestamps, which makes protobuf think it needs to rebuild its configure scripts
296 2017-11-13T13:16:47  <wumpus> .... another thing that should be mentionined in that infamous doc
297 2017-11-13T13:21:56  <Victorsueca> nice, seems like it's working
298 2017-11-13T13:22:15  <Victorsueca> gone past protobuf, now building boost
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303 2017-11-13T14:01:11  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/7fbf3c638f3f...927e5280bdba
304 2017-11-13T14:01:12  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 84e2462 practicalswift: contrib: Add Valgrind suppressions file...
305 2017-11-13T14:01:12  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4a426d8 practicalswift: Add note about Valgrind suppressions file in developer-notes.md
306 2017-11-13T14:01:13  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 927e528 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11035: [contrib] Add Valgrind suppressions file...
307 2017-11-13T14:01:32  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11035: [contrib] Add Valgrind suppressions file (master...valgrind-suppressions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11035
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311 2017-11-13T14:09:58  <roconnor> wumpus: thanks for the info regarding ccache and gitian.
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321 2017-11-13T15:04:36  <ryanofsky> eck: re "multi-process bitcoin core" see https://eklitzke.org/multiprocess-bitcoin and prs 10102, 10244, 10973
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344 2017-11-13T16:18:02  <ossifrage> I just noticed that somehow ~0.15.1 some how managed to drop a label (it now reads "(no label)") that was present last night via listtransactions
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346 2017-11-13T16:19:23  <ossifrage> It seems that 3 of my segwit addresses all have lost their labels
347 2017-11-13T16:20:29  <ossifrage> It looks like maybe 'addsegwitaddress' for an address that already has a segwit address will clobber the existing label
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350 2017-11-13T16:31:20  <sipa> ossifrage: it shouldn't touch the original address
351 2017-11-13T16:31:35  <sipa> but the witness address returned by addwitnessaddress won't have a label
352 2017-11-13T16:32:40  <ossifrage> sipa, I couldn't figure out how to extract the private key for a segwit address, so I walked throught he candidate keys doing an 'addwitnessaddress' until I got a hit
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354 2017-11-13T16:36:25  <achow101> could someone help me debug some locks on https://github.com/achow101/bitcoin/tree/encrypt-no-restart? That branch is for encrypting wallets without restarting, and something in the GUI part is holding cs_KeyStore causing the GUI to freeze
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356 2017-11-13T16:37:30  <sipa> ossifrage: yes, how is that related to the labels
357 2017-11-13T16:38:00  <sipa> addwitnessaddress does not support labels
358 2017-11-13T16:38:53  <achow101> sipa: presumably he called addwitnessaddress a bunch of times to make witness addresses that already existed in the wallet. so then addwitnessaddress overwrote whatever label had already been given to that address?
359 2017-11-13T16:39:29  <sipa> addresses created by addwitnessaddress never have a label, so i don't think that situation is even possible
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362 2017-11-13T16:40:40  <achow101> sipa: pwallet->SetAddressBook(w.result, "", "receive");
363 2017-11-13T16:40:48  <achow101> I think that's the problem
364 2017-11-13T16:41:24  <sipa> yes, but there's no way the address would have had another label before the call, i think?
365 2017-11-13T16:41:37  <sipa> or is there some account related call to modify a label after creation
366 2017-11-13T16:41:59  <achow101> sipa: he added a label himself using some other call
367 2017-11-13T16:44:11  <achow101> setaccount will let you re-label an address. It can also be done in the GUI, but I don't know if witness addresses will show up there
368 2017-11-13T16:44:40  <sipa> ah
369 2017-11-13T16:44:45  <sipa> that's what i was missing
370 2017-11-13T16:53:09  <ossifrage> sipa, I gave them a label after I initially created them... then that label was clobbered by doing an addwitnessaddress a second time
371 2017-11-13T16:53:43  <ossifrage> I added the label in the UI by double clicking on the label text and changing it.
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375 2017-11-13T16:56:05  <sipa> right, addwitnessaddress sets it to ""
376 2017-11-13T16:56:14  <sipa> you could change it back, i guess
377 2017-11-13T16:56:32  <ossifrage> I did, it just was a bit confusing
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388 2017-11-13T17:19:14  <achow101> so I'm experiencing some lock contention in the branch I mentioned earlier, and I can't figure out why. nothing is holding cs_KeyStore but the line that is blocking can't acquire it for some reason
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423 2017-11-13T19:59:53  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11663: [trivial] doc: Add getreceivedbyaddress release notes (master...Mf1711-docReleaseNotes16) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11663
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468 2017-11-13T21:23:13  <eck> why is it that when you look at debug.log, you see the cache size growing and growing until it periodically "resets" to some much smaller value?
469 2017-11-13T21:23:29  <BlueMatt> eck: thats when the cache flushes..........
470 2017-11-13T21:23:48  <eck> i see, thanks
471 2017-11-13T21:24:03  <sipa> it's both a cache and a buffer
472 2017-11-13T21:24:23  <gmaxwell> it's mostly a buffer. :) the performance elements of the caching aren't that significant.
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474 2017-11-13T21:24:48  <LumberCartel> A cache is strategically managed buffers.
475 2017-11-13T21:25:01  <LumberCartel> At least that's how I've always understood it.
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481 2017-11-13T21:33:57  <eck> so if you kill -9 bitcoind, does that mean you have to potentially resync all the data that had been in the in-memory cache/buffer at the time that it was killed?
482 2017-11-13T21:34:25  <gmaxwell> yes.
483 2017-11-13T21:34:38  <gmaxwell> it will flush once a day if not earlier due to size
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513 2017-11-13T22:03:45  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/41aa9c4a801a...5e468994fbb3
514 2017-11-13T22:03:45  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2f041f0 Luke Dashjr: contrib/init: Update openrc-run filename...
515 2017-11-13T22:03:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5e46899 MarcoFalke: Merge #11676: contrib/init: Update openrc-run filename...
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517 2017-11-13T22:04:17  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #11676: contrib/init: Update openrc-run filename (master...openrc-run) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11676
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542 2017-11-13T22:47:41  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #11677: qa: Remove unused NodeConn members (master...Mf1711-qaMininodeUnused) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11677
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548 2017-11-13T23:12:59  <karelb> I will probably ask here - is there a rule how often to reset testnet chains? Shouldn't testnet be reset more often? It is too big now for effective testing
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550 2017-11-13T23:14:50  <karelb> Is it good idea to make an "informal" rule - that testnet will be reset once it has a certain size in the next release? (For example, once it has 100.000 blocks, then in the next core release)
551 2017-11-13T23:17:53  <karelb> Well seems I am not the first one to want to reset it - #4416 :)
552 2017-11-13T23:17:54  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/4416 | testnet4 · Issue #4416 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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558 2017-11-13T23:28:01  <achow101> karelb: there's no rule. it's only reset when it is super problematic or people start trading testnet coins for money
559 2017-11-13T23:29:05  <karelb> hm, it's 10GB right now... that is not *super* problematic, but also not small
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