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112 2018-01-16T04:27:11  <gmaxwell> sdaftuar: Do you have any idea if your collected transaction flux dataset has any sigops attacks in it?
113 2018-01-16T04:28:12  <gmaxwell> sdaftuar: I was thinking it would would be interesting to try some efficient approximations of multidimensional optimization. I have a fairly concrete idea of what I'd like to try.
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121 2018-01-16T04:47:00  <jtimon> shouldn't https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11426 have the refactoring label too ?
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130 2018-01-16T05:15:33  <gmaxwell> sdaftuar: e.g. lowering the initial sigops lagrangian and having it increase only when the sigops limit is hit. ... though any change in it would require rescoring the whole mempool, I think that could be done infrequently.
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145 2018-01-16T06:26:32  <echelon> is anyone working on adding support for boost-1.66.0
146 2018-01-16T06:27:19  <gmaxwell> echelon: what isn't compatible?
147 2018-01-16T06:27:51  <gmaxwell> We generally prefer to reduce boost dependency, so if there is any incompatiblity that can be resolved by removing boost stuff (and e.g. replacing with C++11 functionality), that would be good.
148 2018-01-16T06:28:25  <echelon> gmaxwell: i had the same errors as this guy.. https://gist.github.com/carlocapocasa/5f31ac2bd7c1ce3f09f4fc1474ad2cb3#file-gistfile1-txt-L287-L321
149 2018-01-16T06:28:48  <echelon> ah, good to know
150 2018-01-16T06:32:41  <sipa> echelon: wasn't that just fixed in master?
151 2018-01-16T06:33:38  <echelon> has it? i see that the ticket is still open
152 2018-01-16T06:33:41  <echelon> let me check
153 2018-01-16T06:34:06  <sipa> #11847
154 2018-01-16T06:34:08  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11847 | Make boost::multi_index comparators const by sdaftuar · Pull Request #11847 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
155 2018-01-16T06:34:50  <echelon> ah ok, i guess this can be closed as well then https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12116
156 2018-01-16T06:34:54  <sipa> and issue #11837 is closed. what other issue is there?
157 2018-01-16T06:34:56  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11837 | CompareModifiedEntry::operator() not const · Issue #11837 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
158 2018-01-16T06:34:59  <gmaxwell> k, well muti-index we probably wouldn't fix by removing for now.
159 2018-01-16T06:35:23  <gmaxwell> echelon: have you tried building master?
160 2018-01-16T06:35:44  <echelon> doing a pull right now
161 2018-01-16T06:36:13  <gmaxwell> thanks
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163 2018-01-16T06:40:11  <echelon> seems to have passed the miner.o compilation :)
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166 2018-01-16T06:44:00  <sipa> echelon: thanks for pointing out 12116 was still open
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168 2018-01-16T06:44:11  <echelon> anytime
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172 2018-01-16T07:09:18  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #12196: Add scantxoutset RPC method (master...2017/12/utxo_sweep) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12196
173 2018-01-16T07:10:59  <echelon> all tests passed, and everything is running fine :)
174 2018-01-16T07:13:31  <sipa> good to hear
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176 2018-01-16T07:15:58  <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12196#issuecomment-357872742
177 2018-01-16T07:16:07  <jonasschnelli> What do you mean with " addresses for the pubkey part"?
178 2018-01-16T07:17:00  <gmaxwell> I would expect the argument you would supply would be addresses, exactly like importing for a watching wallet.  Not pubkeys.
179 2018-01-16T07:17:25  <gmaxwell> (I suppose a pubkey would be okay to accept in addition to addresses, but I'm not sure if anyone would use it)
180 2018-01-16T07:18:08  <jonasschnelli> Using addresses would mean, you would have to known what script types where used for the unspents you are looking for...
181 2018-01-16T07:18:36  <sipa> how would you not know?
182 2018-01-16T07:18:47  <gmaxwell> the address tells you the script type. Any address can be converted into a scriptpubkey, otherwise how could someone pay it?
183 2018-01-16T07:19:12  <gmaxwell> (also, with a bare pubkey you're left guessing at the script type)
184 2018-01-16T07:20:13  <sipa> maybe this is easier to discuss with explicit use cases in mind?
185 2018-01-16T07:20:30  <jonasschnelli> Yes... hard to give arguments against addresses,...
186 2018-01-16T07:20:31  <gmaxwell> The use case is in the linked PR.
187 2018-01-16T07:20:45  <jonasschnelli> my use case is that there are backups where only pubkey/privkeys are visible
188 2018-01-16T07:21:00  <jonasschnelli> But could also be addresses...
189 2018-01-16T07:21:19  <jonasschnelli> I though pubkeys and derive all common scipts makes it easier ...
190 2018-01-16T07:21:45  <gmaxwell> The only shortcomming of also supporting pubkeys is that pubkeys don't encode the script type; and we are trying to move away from the "use all the types" handling in the wallet in general.
191 2018-01-16T07:21:47  <sipa> well i think it's a bad situation we're in now that public keys explicitly don't have an associated script type
192 2018-01-16T07:22:03  <sipa> which simplifies things "they can be anything" in one way
193 2018-01-16T07:22:11  <jonasschnelli> Maybe both should work
194 2018-01-16T07:22:44  <sipa> unfortunately at this point we really need to treat xpubs as deriving all address types that currentpy exist
195 2018-01-16T07:22:49  <jonasschnelli> sipa: that's why you want to scan for all possible related funds...
196 2018-01-16T07:22:55  <gmaxwell> I would say that it's fine to also support pubkeys and do wildcard handling, but I'm a little concerned that it'll make it harder to rip out wildcard handling in general in the future.
197 2018-01-16T07:23:16  <gmaxwell> jonasschnelli: that has pretty poor scalablity long term as the number of possible types increases.
198 2018-01-16T07:23:23  <sipa> jonasschnelli: yeah, compatibiloty with how things are done now is a reason in favor
199 2018-01-16T07:23:28  <gmaxwell> at least for the general usage in the wallet, perhaps it's excusable in an import.
200 2018-01-16T07:23:43  <sipa> compatibiloty with how i hope thongs work in the future is an argument against
201 2018-01-16T07:24:01  <sipa> *some s/o/i/ where appropriate
202 2018-01-16T07:24:07  <jonasschnelli> I agree... but I guess the only point where we want that fallback-scan-for-everything is exactly the utxo-base-sweep (scan)
203 2018-01-16T07:24:28  <jonasschnelli> (or at least an option)
204 2018-01-16T07:24:34  <sipa> fair
205 2018-01-16T07:24:36  <sipa> i agree
206 2018-01-16T07:24:45  <jonasschnelli> I think supporting addresses and pubkeys makes most sense... will add
207 2018-01-16T07:25:13  <sipa> it's analogous to importpubkey and importprivkey
208 2018-01-16T07:25:20  <sipa> which also derive everything
209 2018-01-16T07:25:28  <jonasschnelli> Right
210 2018-01-16T07:25:37  <sipa> or at least all existing addresses
211 2018-01-16T07:25:51  <gmaxwell> I think for sweeps its probably fine.  Addresses should be the recommended input, if you have a choice, and they don't have that problem.  Later we can introduce a script type augmented xpub to cover that case too.
212 2018-01-16T07:26:02  <jonasschnelli> There is also a missing rpc call for a rawsweep... something that can calculate fees based on an array of unspents and a send-to-address
213 2018-01-16T07:26:04  <sipa> longer term i hope we have address-type-specific privkeys/xpubs (like electrum has)
214 2018-01-16T07:26:29  <gmaxwell> I think the behavior should be analogous to importaddress-- e.g. equal or a superset of what that can import.
215 2018-01-16T07:26:53  <gmaxwell> jonasschnelli: can fundrawtransaction do that already?
216 2018-01-16T07:27:14  <gmaxwell> without thinking too hard I think fundraw could be made to do that, without breaking compatibility with anything.
217 2018-01-16T07:28:05  <sipa> yes createraw + fun draw can donthat, but it's abit cumbersome
218 2018-01-16T07:28:12  <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: I don't think so it can today... what you want is no change outputs, just the total - the required fee after the given confirmation target
219 2018-01-16T07:28:12  <sipa> *do that
220 2018-01-16T07:28:28  <gmaxwell> sipa: if the app is still unclear, consider e.g. sweeping spinoff coins without having to do a importaddress and wallet rescan on a spinoff node.
221 2018-01-16T07:28:30  <jonasschnelli> fund* is also the wrong term if you have all unspents
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223 2018-01-16T07:28:43  <sipa> right
224 2018-01-16T07:28:48  <sipa> yes, makes sense
225 2018-01-16T07:28:59  <gmaxwell> jonasschnelli: well thats the change from payment amount behavior.
226 2018-01-16T07:29:37  <jonasschnelli> What would easy work is allowing an send-to-address in the utxo scan and spit out the recommended fee
227 2018-01-16T07:29:48  <jonasschnelli> (for the tx in the background and use the estimator)
228 2018-01-16T07:29:54  <jonasschnelli> but meh
229 2018-01-16T07:30:03  <gmaxwell> I suppose someone could then edit the tx if they want other behavior.
230 2018-01-16T07:30:40  <gmaxwell> ah, I see ... maybe this should wait for achow's PSBT support.
231 2018-01-16T07:31:04  <jonasschnelli> maybe the scantxout command should spit out (additionally) the raw tx for a sweep to a given address
232 2018-01-16T07:31:05  <gmaxwell> The best interface for this, I think, would be to output a raw transaction. But the problem with that is that it isn't an acceptable input for signrawtransaction.
233 2018-01-16T07:31:26  <gmaxwell> I suppose it could output BOTH a raw transaction and the argument for signrawtransaction.
234 2018-01-16T07:31:41  <jonasschnelli> Yes.
235 2018-01-16T07:31:49  <gmaxwell> But that problem is the primary motivation for PSBTs.
236 2018-01-16T07:31:52  <jonasschnelli> Though we would need xpriv support in signraw
237 2018-01-16T07:31:57  <gmaxwell> well one of the primary motivations.
238 2018-01-16T07:31:57  <jonasschnelli> (can be added at later stage=
239 2018-01-16T07:33:13  <gmaxwell> I like it outputting the raw transaction and signraw argument, though a PSBT would be even better.
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241 2018-01-16T07:33:57  <gmaxwell> it could take a destition array, and if it's empty, then just leave off the destinations for further editing.
242 2018-01-16T07:34:16  <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: I think it does already output the signraw arguments,.. the "unspents" array can be used for singraw (it contains the scriptPubKey)
243 2018-01-16T07:34:26  <gmaxwell> and support a feerate argument override for the estimator as some of the other rpcs do.
244 2018-01-16T07:34:28  <jonasschnelli> (but not the rawtx)
245 2018-01-16T07:34:34  <gmaxwell> I know.
246 2018-01-16T07:34:51  <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: good point, feerate override would be great to have
247 2018-01-16T07:36:00  <gmaxwell> esp because estimator is dumb on recently started nodes... and I think for this a common use will be to start something, catch up to tip, and sweep...
248 2018-01-16T07:36:43  <jonasschnelli> Oh.... yes.
249 2018-01-16T07:37:00  <jonasschnelli> I hope we have disabled the default fallbackfee for such cases...
250 2018-01-16T07:37:09  <gmaxwell> listunspent has a modifier dictionary that it takes, which you might consider having. The obvious modification would be to ignore dust outputs.
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252 2018-01-16T07:38:26  <gmaxwell> (other modifier might be height<=x, which could _sometimes_ be used to create spinoff txn without the spinoff chain-- though that could be added later)
253 2018-01-16T07:38:53  <jonasschnelli> Great ideas...
254 2018-01-16T07:39:33  <gmaxwell> e.g. you have a signer that knows how to sign for SBTC, and you haven't spent any coins since the fork.. you could use a bitcoin node to create the sweep transactions...
255 2018-01-16T07:39:52  <jonasschnelli> One downside of those utxo scans is: "real    8m38.318s"... they take relatively long,... 8m is on a very fast SSD machine
256 2018-01-16T07:40:36  <gmaxwell> that is still a HELL of a lot better than a full wallet rescan.
257 2018-01-16T07:40:46  <jonasschnelli> indeed...
258 2018-01-16T07:41:09  <jonasschnelli> Also,... pruned peers
259 2018-01-16T07:41:48  <gmaxwell> 8m still seems like a long time, our poor poor utxo set.
260 2018-01-16T07:42:04  <gmaxwell> oh I assume you flush first, perhaps some of that was flush time?
261 2018-01-16T07:42:20  <gmaxwell> which can take a long time if your dbcache is gigantic.
262 2018-01-16T07:43:03  <gmaxwell> hm. I seem to recall the gettxoutsetinfo taking ~2 minutes. :(
263 2018-01-16T07:43:05  <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: I removed the flush...
264 2018-01-16T07:43:28  <gmaxwell> uh, but if you don't flush you won't return correct results?
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266 2018-01-16T07:43:49  <gmaxwell> flushing is needed to make the utxo set on disk consistent with the chaintip.
267 2018-01-16T07:44:06  <sipa> unless you scan both the disk and memory explicitly
268 2018-01-16T07:44:42  <gmaxwell> I suppose you can do that... scan disk, then memory to remove anything found but spent, and add anything added... seems complicated.
269 2018-01-16T07:44:42  <jonasschnelli> I guess I should re-add that. :)
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271 2018-01-16T07:45:10  <sipa> i believe ryanofski has a PR to pet you scan through a view of the merged disk+cache
272 2018-01-16T07:45:22  <sipa> *let
273 2018-01-16T07:45:39  <jonasschnelli> 8min is on a AMD Ryzen 7 1700X, 6Gb/s SSD (software raid though)
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275 2018-01-16T07:46:42  <echelon> gmaxwell: off-topic, but did you used to do ports for zipit?
276 2018-01-16T07:47:58  <gmaxwell> echelon: I don't know what 'ports for zipit' would be, so presumably not. :)
277 2018-01-16T07:48:33  <echelon> zipit z2, the handheld linux console thingy
278 2018-01-16T07:48:37  <echelon> nevermind :)
279 2018-01-16T07:49:05  <gmaxwell> nope! only handheld linux things I've done anything with are sharp zarus and openmoko.
280 2018-01-16T07:49:18  <echelon> kk, gotcha
281 2018-01-16T07:49:45  <gmaxwell> jonasschnelli: just as a sanity check, can you time a gettxoutsetinfo on the same host?
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283 2018-01-16T07:50:15  <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: one sec
284 2018-01-16T07:50:19  <gmaxwell> it might be that my cached memory of how long that takes is outdated or just wrong... but if not, there might be something to optimize in your code.
285 2018-01-16T07:50:26  <jonasschnelli> Oh... it's --enable-debug
286 2018-01-16T07:50:48  <sipa> jonasschnelli: don't do that when benchmarking :)
287 2018-01-16T07:51:05  <jonasschnelli> I fall into this over and over again
288 2018-01-16T07:51:40  <sipa> i'm happy sokeone is regularly running with debug enabled :)
289 2018-01-16T07:51:46  <sipa> *someone
290 2018-01-16T07:52:06  <gmaxwell> lol
291 2018-01-16T07:52:29  <gmaxwell> whew, well I hope its faster without it.
292 2018-01-16T07:56:13  <gmaxwell> not that 2m would be all that awesome either.
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296 2018-01-16T08:03:23  <jonasschnelli> real    9m38.249s (gettxoutsetinfo)
297 2018-01-16T08:03:32  <jonasschnelli> now trying with no-debug
298 2018-01-16T08:04:22  <jonasschnelli> oh... much faster
299 2018-01-16T08:04:51  <gmaxwell> okay so under a minute
300 2018-01-16T08:04:57  <jonasschnelli> UTXO scan: real    0m47.572s
301 2018-01-16T08:05:04  <gmaxwell> whew
302 2018-01-16T08:06:01  <gmaxwell> now to just figure out how to get future spinoffs to base themselves off 0.17 or whatever will have this feature. :P
303 2018-01-16T08:06:27  <jonasschnelli> heh
304 2018-01-16T08:06:40  <jonasschnelli> Funny... gettxoutsetinfo takes longer: 1m3.496s
305 2018-01-16T08:06:49  <gmaxwell> thats because you removed the flush?
306 2018-01-16T08:07:06  <jonasschnelli> I have readded but not pulled on that machine... true!
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308 2018-01-16T08:07:13  <gmaxwell> thats probably it.
309 2018-01-16T08:07:19  <jonasschnelli> doublechecking...
310 2018-01-16T08:07:27  <gmaxwell> well ettxoutsetinfo does hashing, so maybe not just that.
311 2018-01-16T08:07:37  <jonasschnelli> Flush is there!
312 2018-01-16T08:07:45  <gmaxwell> okay, probably the hashing then
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314 2018-01-16T08:13:35  <sipa> gettxoutsetinfo uses a lot mkre CPU as it's hashing everything too
315 2018-01-16T08:14:04  * gmaxwell estimates which planet sipa is on from the round trip time
316 2018-01-16T08:14:30  <sipa> Europa
317 2018-01-16T08:15:02  <sipa> hmm, rough estimate tells me the overhead of hashing the whole UTXO set shouldn't be more than a second
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320 2018-01-16T08:19:57  <gmaxwell> using bytes or compression function calls to estimate?
321 2018-01-16T08:28:37  <gmaxwell>  /query gmaxwell
322 2018-01-16T08:28:39  <gmaxwell> oops
323 2018-01-16T08:29:01  <gmaxwell> (yes, I talk to myself on IRC)
324 2018-01-16T08:29:43  <sipa> gmaxwell: on a stream of several GB i'm sure that rounding up to the next multiple of 64 doesn't matter :)
325 2018-01-16T08:32:12  <gmaxwell> well I guess the worst case overhead is only 2x for inputs longer than 32 bytes.
326 2018-01-16T08:42:18  <gmaxwell> How'd you get into RWC btw?
327 2018-01-16T08:46:06  <gmaxwell> nevermind.
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348 2018-01-16T10:12:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 6 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bbc91b769973...66e3af709dd4
349 2018-01-16T10:12:37  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e60cb99 MeshCollider: Add a lock to the wallet directory
350 2018-01-16T10:12:37  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c9ed4bd MeshCollider: Add a test for wallet directory locking
351 2018-01-16T10:12:38  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 64226de MeshCollider: Generalise walletdir lock error message for correctness
352 2018-01-16T10:13:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11904: Add a lock to the wallet directory (master...201712_walletdir_lock) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11904
353 2018-01-16T10:17:19  <wumpus> jonasschnelli: I've also fallen into that trap a few times; maybe it'd make sense to make --enable-debug builds emit a warning in the log, as well as when running the benchmarks
354 2018-01-16T10:17:56  <gmaxwell> maybe add an extra colum "DEBUG" after the timestamp in all log output?
355 2018-01-16T10:18:02  <gmaxwell> or something like that.
356 2018-01-16T10:18:28  <gmaxwell> though I bet jonas was doing time ./bitcoin-cli gettxoutsetinfo  :P
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358 2018-01-16T10:18:36  <wumpus> hehe that's very intrusive :)
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360 2018-01-16T10:18:40  <wumpus> on every log line
361 2018-01-16T10:19:12  <gmaxwell> I dunno about you, though, if it only logged it at start I'd never notice. I've run the wrong binaries many times and missed the logged version numbers.
362 2018-01-16T10:19:14  <wumpus> that veers into the domain of actively discouraging people to run debug builds
363 2018-01-16T10:19:20  <gmaxwell> but fair enough.
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365 2018-01-16T10:19:35  <gmaxwell> it would be less intrusive if we already had a column there.
366 2018-01-16T10:19:42  <wumpus> adding just a 'D' or so would be a compromise
367 2018-01-16T10:19:43  <gmaxwell> like "bitcoin-mainnet"
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369 2018-01-16T10:20:02  <gmaxwell> or B for bitcoin mainnet... so at least your log parsing commands don't break.
370 2018-01-16T10:20:18  <gmaxwell> ah interesting, we each thought it was intrusive for different reasons.
371 2018-01-16T10:20:35  <wumpus> but in any case, logging it in some way is better than not logging it, even if it's just an adition to the version message, you can always check/correlate logs later
372 2018-01-16T10:20:54  <gmaxwell> true. +1 for at least sticking it in the version string that gets logged.
373 2018-01-16T10:21:34  <wumpus> I learned to always check the version message in the log painfully by bisecting kernels on embedded devices; it happens that the programming did go well, so I ended up testing the wrong kernel version, making me bisect 15 steps over again :p
374 2018-01-16T10:21:42  <wumpus> did not*
375 2018-01-16T10:23:09  <wumpus> yes it might also be intrusive for another reason (e.g. breaking log parsers)
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383 2018-01-16T10:51:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #12197: Log debug build status and warn when running benchmarks (master...2018_01_debug_in_log) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12197
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396 2018-01-16T11:40:51  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #12198: rpc: Add deprecation error for `getinfo` (master...2018_01_getinfo_deprecation_message) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12198
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409 2018-01-16T12:12:19  <provoostenator> Functional test suite passes on my machine a lot more often these days, so kudos to whoever improved things.
410 2018-01-16T12:12:54  <provoostenator> Now I just need to find out how to prevent those dozen firewall permission popups on OSX after each recompile.
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414 2018-01-16T12:22:42  <wumpus> you get firewall permission popups for localhost?
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422 2018-01-16T12:30:52  <aj> wumpus: for #11774, i figure it makes sense to wait until #12101 and #12119 (and any other 0.16 PRs modifying tests?) get merged... should i rebase it so github is happy, or does merging it via git directly work okay?
423 2018-01-16T12:30:53  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11774 | [WIP] [tests] Rename functional tests by ajtowns · Pull Request #11774 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
424 2018-01-16T12:30:55  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12101 | Clamp walletpassphrase timeout to 2^30 seconds and check its bounds by achow101 · Pull Request #12101 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
425 2018-01-16T12:30:58  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12119 | [wallet] use P2WPKH change output if any destination is P2WPKH or P2SH-P2WSH by Sjors · Pull Request #12119 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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428 2018-01-16T12:32:06  <wumpus> aj: you'd need to rebase it just before merging, I guess
429 2018-01-16T12:32:22  <wumpus> after the PRs you're waiting for go in, at least
430 2018-01-16T12:32:39  <wumpus> rebasing *now* isn't worth it if you just have to do it again
431 2018-01-16T12:33:32  <aj> wumpus: rebasing just means running "./fix_tests" :) (well, and eyeballing the patches, and checking the tests actually run)
432 2018-01-16T12:33:35  <provoostenator> wumpus: it seems so, haven't investigated what exactly these functional test bitcoind nodes are asking permission for
433 2018-01-16T12:33:38  <provoostenator> wumpus: shouldn't #11536 be in he high priority review list, given that #7729 can be based on it?
434 2018-01-16T12:33:40  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11536 | Rename account to label where appropriate by ryanofsky · Pull Request #11536 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
435 2018-01-16T12:33:44  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/7729 | rpc: introduce label API for wallet by laanwj · Pull Request #7729 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
436 2018-01-16T12:34:24  <provoostenator> aj: I don't mind doing a rebase, so don't wait for me
437 2018-01-16T12:34:26  <wumpus> provoostenator: currently https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+milestone%3A0.16.0 is the high priority review list; the project didn't get updated last meeting
438 2018-01-16T12:34:38  <wumpus> all focus is on getting 0.16.0 out
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440 2018-01-16T12:36:30  <wumpus> provoostenator: well all the tests can be run without any external network access, so rejecting them to do that shouldn't make a difference, just localhost counts
441 2018-01-16T12:37:15  <gmaxwell> it might be due to spurrious dns lookups it doing something that looks like network access, I suppose.
442 2018-01-16T12:37:19  <provoostenator> Right, but I'd rather not have to see that popup at all.
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444 2018-01-16T12:37:26  <gmaxwell> though we'd probably want to fix that if reasonably possible
445 2018-01-16T12:37:40  <wumpus> gmaxwell: yep, it's fully possible that there is some 'leakage', there, but blocking it shouldn't affect the test results
446 2018-01-16T12:37:56  <provoostenator> Let me try rejecting...
447 2018-01-16T12:38:20  <provoostenator> I grew up with Windows as a kid, so I'm used to clicking Yes
448 2018-01-16T12:38:22  <aj> oh, is https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/11782 (assertion failure in validation.cpp when you use a 0.15 regtest datadir with 0.16) worth fixing for 0.16?
449 2018-01-16T12:38:32  <wumpus> I've never tried runnign the tests on host with only localhost network interface, that'd be kind of interesting (but I don't see why it wouldn't pass)
450 2018-01-16T12:38:43  <gmaxwell> aj: uh, that sounds bad
451 2018-01-16T12:39:13  <gmaxwell> oh right due to changing where segwit activated.
452 2018-01-16T12:39:15  <aj> gmaxwell: 0.15's segwit activations is later than 0.16's, so erroring out is reasonable, assertion failure is just an unpleasant way of doing it
453 2018-01-16T12:39:34  <gmaxwell> okay not bad... just ugly.
454 2018-01-16T12:39:57  <aj> yeah
455 2018-01-16T12:42:41  <wumpus> if it (for sure) only affects regtest it shouldn't block 0.16.0
456 2018-01-16T12:43:41  <gmaxwell> A trivial deuglyfication could be to adjust the assert with a note about why it's triggering.
457 2018-01-16T12:44:06  <wumpus> <wumpus> I've never tried runnign the tests on host with only localhost network interface, that'd be kind of interesting (but I don't see why it wouldn't pass) <- it's trivial to simulate that using linux netns, will try it
458 2018-01-16T12:44:10  <gmaxwell> (via the string equality assert hack)
459 2018-01-16T12:45:04  <wumpus> yes, that'd make sense
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468 2018-01-16T13:01:51  <wumpus> phew, both functional and unit tests pass with only loopback networking
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470 2018-01-16T13:02:49  <wumpus> theoretically, with the UNIX sockets patches it could work even without a loopback interface, but I'm not going to try that :)
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473 2018-01-16T13:06:23  <provoostenator> Tests seem to be fine if I deny permission. Still trying to see what triggers the permission popup. I assume it's related to what it tries to listen on.
474 2018-01-16T13:06:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/66e3af709dd4...cad504bf4c30
475 2018-01-16T13:06:28  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5f911c5 mruddy: trivial: fix address_type help text of getnewaddress and getrawchangeaddress
476 2018-01-16T13:06:29  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cad504b MarcoFalke: Merge #12177: trivial: fix address_type help text of getnewaddress and getrawchangeaddress...
477 2018-01-16T13:07:14  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #12177: trivial: fix address_type help text of getnewaddress and getrawchangeaddress (master...trivial1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12177
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484 2018-01-16T13:19:17  <provoostenator> OSX remembers the answer to the popup question until you recompile bitcoind with some change (whitespace is enough). src/bitcoind -regtest is enough to trigger it. -listen=0 prevents it
485 2018-01-16T13:20:59  <provoostenator> -bind= also prevents the popup
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493 2018-01-16T13:25:30  <wumpus> right, it probably remembers the hash of the executable. Which is cleverer than some windows 'firewall' software I've encountered which just looks at the name of a program...
494 2018-01-16T13:25:53  <wumpus> provoostenator: binding to would make sense for the functional test suite
495 2018-01-16T13:25:56  <provoostenator> Adding -bind= to each test node in address_types.py make the popup go away while tests still pass, so that's probably the solution.
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497 2018-01-16T13:26:25  <wumpus> there is no need for the tests to blnd globally, it could even be somewhat of a security risk
498 2018-01-16T13:26:37  <gmaxwell> I was about to say the same thing (security risk)
499 2018-01-16T13:26:54  <provoostenator> wumpus: not sure if it's just the hash. Adding whitespace, recompiling and then removing whitespace and recompiling also triggers the popup. But deleting the executable and then running make again doesn't.
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502 2018-01-16T13:27:39  <gmaxwell> like if some future change/mistake resulted in setting static rpc credentials in some test, and enabling remote connections... then someone could, if not worse, at least clobber files you can write to with wallet backups and dumps.
503 2018-01-16T13:28:47  <gmaxwell> provoostenator: timestamp is pretty cheap to include in a hash... or maybe OSX has some kind of privledged capabilities for executables.
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506 2018-01-16T13:29:41  <gmaxwell> would be pretty useful for AV/backups to be able to set a flag on a file that only the setting program can access, that gets nuked if the file is modified.
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523 2018-01-16T14:07:21  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #12200: Bind functional test nodes to (master...test-framework-bind) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12200
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566 2018-01-16T15:57:00  <hehe> hello
567 2018-01-16T15:58:20  <hehe> can i ask bout wallet service that i develop from bitcore?
568 2018-01-16T15:58:41  <hehe> #bitcoin
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658 2018-01-16T18:57:53  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] morcos opened pull request #12204: Fix overly eager BIP30 bypass (master...bip30bypassfix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12204
659 2018-01-16T18:57:55  <morcos> oops
660 2018-01-16T19:00:29  <echeveria> was slightly worried until I realised how far we are from block height 1.9M.
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662 2018-01-16T19:04:20  <rabidus> you can continue breathing
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676 2018-01-16T19:33:33  <games_> echeveria: what's the difference between block size and block height?
677 2018-01-16T19:33:48  <games_> (if this is the wrong place to ask, sorry)
678 2018-01-16T19:34:02  <echeveria> what's the difference between a tomato and a cucumber?
679 2018-01-16T19:35:11  <Randolf> games_:  This might be helpful to you:  https://bitcoin.org/en/glossary/block-height
680 2018-01-16T19:36:14  <Randolf> games_:  And this:  https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Scalability_FAQ
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682 2018-01-16T19:39:43  <instagibbs> games_, #bitcoin please
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722 2018-01-16T20:44:24  <games_> instagibbs, Randolf: thanks
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760 2018-01-16T22:21:07  <dx25_> With my update to boost 1.66.0-1, I'm getting this really hard-to-understand (for me) compile error.  i guess something should be const that isn't?
761 2018-01-16T22:21:09  <dx25_> https://pastebin.com/DQr2t7ss
762 2018-01-16T22:21:28  <dx25_> compiling latest commit in master
763 2018-01-16T22:25:42  <echelon> dx25_: what version of boost do you have installed?
764 2018-01-16T22:26:27  <dx25_> 1.66.0-1.  If i downgrade to previous version it compiles ok.
765 2018-01-16T22:27:36  <echelon> 1.66.0-1 doesn't seem to be a release verrsion
766 2018-01-16T22:27:45  <echelon> is that something from your distro?
767 2018-01-16T22:28:01  <dx25_> maybe so
768 2018-01-16T22:28:02  <dx25_> antergos
769 2018-01-16T22:28:19  <dx25_> which i thought was just arch but maybe not
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771 2018-01-16T22:28:49  <echelon> yeah, you should find out what they patched up in boost
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773 2018-01-16T22:29:38  <echelon> because i'm running 1.66.0, without any changes made by my distro maintainers, and it compiles cleanly
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775 2018-01-16T22:31:23  <dx25_> looks like they did some weird patchups to their bitcoin package too, the version number there is 0.15.1-4
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779 2018-01-16T22:32:17  <echelon> maybe you should let them know about the fix and have them just use the patch from master
780 2018-01-16T22:34:19  <dx25_> this seems to be the official archlinux packages from "extra".  i'm going to get their package sources and see what they changed.
781 2018-01-16T22:35:32  <dx25_> https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk/0001-Make-boost-multi_index-comparators-const.patch?h=packages/bitcoin
782 2018-01-16T22:36:50  <dx25_> seems like this change ought to get merged into core?
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789 2018-01-16T22:48:11  <sipa> dx25_: it already is
790 2018-01-16T22:48:21  <sipa> (in master, not in a release)
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793 2018-01-16T22:55:17  <dx25_> oh, thought i git fetched, maybe not.
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796 2018-01-16T23:00:00  <ossifrage> I wonder why this fails: bitcoin-cli getblock $(bitcoin-cli getblockchaininfo | jq .bestblockhash)
797 2018-01-16T23:01:05  <ossifrage> Stupid extra quotes, doh
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