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42018-02-26T00:30:27 <eklitzke> it's on my todo list, i have a systemtap script that hooks into the kernel events that update the process file descriptor tables
52018-02-26T00:30:57 <eklitzke> i want to use that to find the places where bitcoind creates file descriptors but doesn't track that
62018-02-26T00:31:30 <gmaxwell> eklitzke: the main reason we have FD limits at all is due to the use of select in the networking code.
72018-02-26T00:31:53 <eklitzke> so i don't quite understand what is the situation where you would get 1024 network sockets in your bitcoin process
82018-02-26T00:32:03 <gmaxwell> There is a fairly simple patch to use poll instead which has been delayed for a very long time now out of a desire to instead wait until a bigger rewrite.
92018-02-26T00:32:31 <gmaxwell> eklitzke: select will not work if any fd number is over 1023... not just if there are more network sockets.
102018-02-26T00:32:37 <eklitzke> ah, right
112018-02-26T00:32:42 <gmaxwell> because it's implemented as a bitmap.
122018-02-26T00:32:52 <gmaxwell> well a constant size bitmap. :P
132018-02-26T00:33:27 <gmaxwell> so we get fd pressure from all angles, multiple leveldbs, rpc, network, block files, etc.
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242018-02-26T01:34:47 <Admun> admin
252018-02-26T01:35:03 <Admun> operation/sathoschi
262018-02-26T01:35:19 <Admun> franklin!!!
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302018-02-26T01:53:34 <pierre_rochard> Any success stories of experimenting with the core codebase using Jupyter + xeus-cling? ( https://blog.jupyter.org/interactive-workflows-for-c-with-jupyter-fe9b54227d92 )
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592018-02-26T05:14:12 <j0hnson2412> does the bitcoin: uri scheme work ok with segwit addresses? i sent a payment with it and the actual transfer goes to a different address
602018-02-26T05:15:40 <sipa> it should work
612018-02-26T05:15:55 <sipa> what software and version?
622018-02-26T05:17:43 <j0hnson2412> bitcoin core v0.15.1
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642018-02-26T05:18:12 <sipa> and do you mean a p2sh address or a native one? (3... or bc1...?)
652018-02-26T05:18:41 <j0hnson2412> the address parameter is set to a segwit (3) address, but it also has a r parameter. reading it looks like it just ignores what that address is and fetches info from the r parameter
662018-02-26T05:19:09 <j0hnson2412> this is to a coinbase.com merchant
672018-02-26T05:19:30 <sipa> who created the URI?
682018-02-26T05:19:30 <j0hnson2412> they say they didnt receive the payment so it looks like coinbase is messed up then
692018-02-26T05:19:59 <j0hnson2412> its from one of those 'pay with coinbase.com' buttons
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712018-02-26T05:20:46 <sipa> hmm, no idea what the r= stands for
722018-02-26T05:21:17 <j0hnson2412> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0072.mediawiki
732018-02-26T05:22:07 <sipa> ah, bip72
742018-02-26T05:22:11 <sipa> payment rpotocol
752018-02-26T05:22:30 <sipa> yes, bitcoin core will prefer using the payment protocol over the raw address
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792018-02-26T05:43:30 <j0hnson2412> and theres not really an easy way to decode the paymentrequest either. god what a headache to send a simple payment
802018-02-26T05:44:06 <achow101> j0hnson2412: https://github.com/achow101/payment-proto-interface
812018-02-26T05:46:21 <sipa> j0hnson2412: you can also just drop the r= clause
822018-02-26T05:46:27 <j0hnson2412> yeah this is gonna take me another 10 hours to install python and figure it all out
832018-02-26T05:46:40 <sipa> (but you'd pay again, of course)
842018-02-26T05:47:19 <achow101> j0hnson2412: there's prebuilt packages: https://github.com/achow101/payment-proto-interface/releases
852018-02-26T05:47:23 <achow101> they shouldn't need python installed
862018-02-26T05:47:49 <j0hnson2412> their releases are broken, they won't even run
872018-02-26T05:48:47 <achow101> how do they not run (note that's my project)
882018-02-26T05:48:57 <achow101> other people have been able to use them
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902018-02-26T05:51:40 <j0hnson2412> https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/H9nNc1r.png
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922018-02-26T05:51:45 <j0hnson2412> i probably now have malware from this too
932018-02-26T05:53:25 <achow101> well if that's how you feel about it, guess I'll stop trying to help then
942018-02-26T05:56:30 <j0hnson2412> you need to statically link your stuff, linux one doesnt run either
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1042018-02-26T06:30:47 <bramc> Hey everybody
1052018-02-26T06:35:32 <meshcollider> bramc: hi
1062018-02-26T06:37:15 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kallewoof opened pull request #12537: [arith_uint256] Make it safe to use "self" in operators (master...uint-safe-self-op) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12537
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1082018-02-26T06:45:02 <j0hnson2412> finally got the bitcoin script extracted from the paymentdetails, but it's in some weird python mix of ascii and escaped octal..
1092018-02-26T06:45:06 <j0hnson2412> "v\251\024*\375\005\177\323Y\374\034\030\013\027}\005\361\264\031\030gG\032\210\254"
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1142018-02-26T06:51:37 <j0hnson2412> all this work to figure out why a billion dollar payment gateway with no contact doesn't work, bitcoin is the future
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1192018-02-26T07:03:31 <kallewoof> j0hnson2412: It is probably binary. The ascii are probably just coincidence.
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1222018-02-26T07:05:25 <bramc> Python will include printables verbatim without escaping
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1372018-02-26T08:54:05 <wumpus> j0hnson2412: this might help if you're interacting with the payment protocol manually https://github.com/achow101/payment-proto-interface
1382018-02-26T08:54:16 <wumpus> oh, I see someone posted that
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1432018-02-26T09:08:19 <wumpus> and yes the forced adoption of the payment protocol by bitpay etc has been a letdown, many wallets don't have a BIP70 implementation, some don't work properly, there's problems with cloudflare and tor when fetching the requests
1442018-02-26T09:09:36 <wumpus> last time I tried to pay something using bitpay I had to give up and pay by bank... all was okay when you could just pay manually to an address
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1492018-02-26T09:21:04 <booyah> I was reading about the bitcoin db locks exploit, https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0050.mediawiki - but I don't see there information when it was introduced exactly and "who is responsible" for it
1502018-02-26T09:23:07 <booyah> which commit/pr added this problem?
1512018-02-26T09:29:51 <wumpus> can anyone review https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org/pull/513 please
1522018-02-26T09:30:59 <wumpus> booyah: that bug was always in there AFAIK, and I don't think it was intentionally exploited, it was an unexpected interaction between the db library and consensus
1532018-02-26T09:31:36 <booyah> wumpus: so all released versions of Bitcoin, including Satoshi's release, were vulneable?
1542018-02-26T09:31:44 <wumpus> booyah: yes
1552018-02-26T09:31:48 <echeveria> yes
1562018-02-26T09:32:07 <booyah> I'm asking also since there're idiots in -otc claiming that is "bitcoin core fault"
1572018-02-26T09:32:11 <echeveria> satoshis bitcoin 0.1 was more vulnerable in a pile of ways. thereâs lots of things that arenât understood well.
1582018-02-26T09:32:31 <wumpus> everything using berkeleydb for the utxo set, which was the case from the first version
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1602018-02-26T09:32:35 <echeveria> ie, you could create unlimited bitcoin out of thin air and spend anybodies bitcoin.
1612018-02-26T09:32:51 <wumpus> not that one echeveria
1622018-02-26T09:33:04 <echeveria> ?
1632018-02-26T09:33:21 <wumpus> that was another bug in satoshi's code, much earlier
1642018-02-26T09:33:35 <echeveria> Iâm saying itâs not perfect, and you canât attribute that to later development at all. I realise theyâre 3 different, earlier bugs.
1652018-02-26T09:33:48 <booyah> we need better CVE / bug disclosure process guys
1662018-02-26T09:34:05 <echeveria> uh. this is ancient history.
1672018-02-26T09:34:15 <wumpus> yes, this is ancient history
1682018-02-26T09:34:17 <booyah> above information should be state in that BIP 50 imo. Which versions were affected (all), when it was introduced (in first version), by who (Satoshi)
1692018-02-26T09:34:30 <wumpus> both the BIP50 fork and satoshi's counting mistake :-)
1702018-02-26T09:34:39 <booyah> it is also the most known security event (or 1 of like 3) used NOW to prove that bitcoin core is incompetent
1712018-02-26T09:34:46 <booyah> "prove"
1722018-02-26T09:34:47 <wumpus> feel free to dig in history, someone must, but I focus on the future only
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1742018-02-26T09:35:00 <echeveria> booyah: feel free to write them up.
1752018-02-26T09:35:02 <booyah> [10:33] <mats> this is 0.8.0, which satoshi did not release
1762018-02-26T09:35:36 <echeveria> 0.8 *fixed* the bug.
1772018-02-26T09:35:37 <booyah> wumpus: I see. btw please provide such detailed info for any future (if any) then :)
1782018-02-26T09:35:37 <wumpus> if their point is that bitcoin core's contributors make mistakes, then they are right
1792018-02-26T09:35:56 <echeveria> no version before 0.7 was consensus complete due to berkeleydb not being deterministic.
1802018-02-26T09:36:19 <wumpus> find any person alive who writes bugless software FFS, we have a very thorough QA and testing process in place but it's impossible to guarantee that bugs won't happen
1812018-02-26T09:36:46 <echeveria> booyah: letâs take this to #bitcoin please.
1822018-02-26T09:36:50 <wumpus> most of that trolling comes from people supporting projects that publish code with virtually no review and QA at all
1832018-02-26T09:37:28 <wumpus> yes, take it somewhere else, it's not relevant to anything today
1842018-02-26T09:41:52 <wumpus> if you want to call me incompetent, go ahead and try to do better. I have more than 20 years of experience in development and computer security. But I'm not perfect. Open source hinges on having lots of eyes on the source code to catch mistakes, not any special person.
1852018-02-26T09:43:07 <esotericnonsense> :)
1862018-02-26T09:43:11 <wumpus> so: try to attack the code, that's good. Don't try to attack the developers, that just results in drama.
1872018-02-26T09:43:13 <esotericnonsense> bitcoin 0.8 was not 'bitcoin core' :D
1882018-02-26T09:44:36 <booyah> wumpus: speaking about the future, will the bitcoin wallet be returning to name "bitcoin" instead "bitcoin core"?
1892018-02-26T09:44:45 <wumpus> no
1902018-02-26T09:44:59 <wumpus> you can pry my project name from my cold dead hands
1912018-02-26T09:45:26 <booyah> hm? I was just asking about the name :)
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1942018-02-26T09:55:00 <phantomcircuit> booyah, fyi the people trying to blame someone for that stuff know they're lying
1952018-02-26T09:55:02 <wumpus> if you want a serious answer: some things (such as naming, branding) are too trivial to be concerned with here. There's as many opinions on it as bitcoin users. You can fork the source code today and change the name (it's a constant in configure.ac FWIW) or use luke-jr's Bitcoin Knots. If there is no agreement on changing something, the best thing is just to stick with what is there.
1962018-02-26T09:55:07 <phantomcircuit> pointing out that they're lying is mostly useless
1972018-02-26T09:57:06 <provoostenator> If the amount of discussion required to change a few words in a tooltip is any indication... changing the name of the app would eat up all of Core's resources for a year :-) There's more important things to work on.
1982018-02-26T09:57:11 <wumpus> And if you want to change the bitcoin logo to a purple elephant and denominate coins in 'fluppydoodleblurz' from now on, go ahead and release a wallet that does that, use that on your sites, make a BIP, etc. By nature, bitcoin is permissionless.
1992018-02-26T09:58:16 <wumpus> provoostenator: exactly, it's like a human DDoS attack :)
2002018-02-26T09:58:32 <provoostenator> Needs CVE?
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2032018-02-26T10:02:52 <wumpus> CVE-0000-0000000
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2092018-02-26T11:11:02 <wumpus> poke: can anyone review https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org/pull/513 , needs to be reviewed to allow merging, so that the site can be updated
2102018-02-26T11:25:56 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/d3f4dd313e5fe58903caf2f4d04827e7f7944e17
2112018-02-26T11:25:56 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d3f4dd3 Wladimir J. van der Laan: doc: Add historical release notes for 0.16.0...
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2232018-02-26T12:39:49 <provoostenator> laanwj: does this need a blog entry too?
2242018-02-26T12:39:54 <provoostenator> wumpus
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2272018-02-26T12:47:22 <jonasschnelli> provoostenator: yes. We should do one. Do you want to do it provoostenator?
2282018-02-26T12:47:45 <jonasschnelli> Just the "Recent Posts" thing
2292018-02-26T12:49:28 <provoostenator> It would be nice if it had pretty pictures like 0.15: https://bitcoincore.org/en/2017/09/01/release-0.15.0/
2302018-02-26T12:50:14 <wumpus> David Harding usually does that, don't know if he has time, might want to ping him
2312018-02-26T12:50:32 <provoostenator> I'm happy to review it.
2322018-02-26T12:52:17 <jonasschnelli> Okay. Let me ping him.
2332018-02-26T12:53:36 <wumpus> he's not here is he
2342018-02-26T12:54:19 <jonasschnelli> Just aked him on twitter... :/
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2362018-02-26T12:55:55 <wumpus> https://bitcoin.org/en/download is not updating even though I updated the git repository at https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org, might be that someone needs to push a button there too
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2382018-02-26T12:57:02 <jonasschnelli> wumpus: I have 0.16.0 at https://bitcoin.org/en/download
2392018-02-26T12:59:04 <jonasschnelli> Dave said he is going to do it
2402018-02-26T13:00:34 <wumpus> jonasschnelli: oh, apparently needed an explicit request, my browser was caching the old page. Phew.
2412018-02-26T13:00:47 <wumpus> jonasschnelli: awesome
2422018-02-26T13:01:43 <wumpus> I'll add him to the cc-list for RCs next time
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2602018-02-26T14:36:50 <promag> #12083 should be ready
2612018-02-26T14:36:52 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12083 | Improve getchaintxstats test coverage by promag · Pull Request #12083 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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2642018-02-26T14:54:46 <denis2342> is this worth a pull request?: https://github.com/denis2342/bitcoin/commit/89d961ed274b42fb8ee01f5e79f59ba6fd078d1c
2652018-02-26T15:01:32 <sipa> denis2342: the style guide favors include_hex over fIncludeHez
2662018-02-26T15:01:34 <sipa> *x
2672018-02-26T15:02:06 <denis2342> sipa: ok, there were both and I took the wrong one ;)
2682018-02-26T15:02:10 <denis2342> I can change that
2692018-02-26T15:03:11 <sipa> denis2342: the style guide also says not to create patches purely to improve style
2702018-02-26T15:03:25 <sipa> (the overhead of the review process is just not worth it for does)
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2722018-02-26T15:03:42 <denis2342> sipa: it is not purely style
2732018-02-26T15:04:06 <sipa> oh, i see!
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2752018-02-26T15:07:27 <denis2342> changed to include_hex https://github.com/denis2342/bitcoin/commit/c8a34e51ad06a1a6f3d82925bb17da34e5766173
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2782018-02-26T15:16:06 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] nopara73 opened pull request #12540: Remove suggestion "getinfo" (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12540
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2822018-02-26T15:28:04 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] denis2342 opened pull request #12541: streamlined the use of include_hex (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12541
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2842018-02-26T15:31:09 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #12540: Remove suggestion "getinfo" (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12540
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2862018-02-26T15:38:07 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr closed pull request #11802: RPC/Wallet: Refuse to dumpprivkey for derived addresses (master...dumpprivkey_noderived) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11802
2872018-02-26T15:40:30 <promag> denis2342: should have a test there no?
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2892018-02-26T15:41:41 <denis2342> promag: ?
2902018-02-26T15:47:29 <promag> denis2342: for instance, decoderawtransactions calls TxToUniv with include_hex=false, so it would be nice to have some test checking that hex field isn't there
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2922018-02-26T15:51:45 <promag> denis2342: furthermore, this change is breaking change, and requires release note
2932018-02-26T15:51:46 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d3f4dd313e5f...228b086b9a3d
2942018-02-26T15:51:47 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 501b439 João Barbosa: rpc: Refactor blockhash parse in getchaintxstats
2952018-02-26T15:51:47 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 57e6786 João Barbosa: qa: Improve getchaintxstats functional test
2962018-02-26T15:51:48 <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 228b086 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #12083: Improve getchaintxstats test coverage...
2972018-02-26T15:52:23 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #12083: Improve getchaintxstats test coverage (master...2018-01-getchaintxstats) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12083
2982018-02-26T15:54:55 <promag> gmaxwell: regarding #12080, should we just remove the address book instead? :)
2992018-02-26T15:54:57 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12080 | Add support to search the address book by promag · Pull Request #12080 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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3362018-02-26T17:37:55 <provoostenator> Where does QT serialize its (OptionsModel) settings and do I clear them?
3372018-02-26T17:40:18 <provoostenator> http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qsettings.html#clear
3382018-02-26T17:41:13 <provoostenator> Which is what the Reset settings feature uses.
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3442018-02-26T17:51:30 <provoostenator> I was thinking of using a (much) higher dbcache in QT if physical memory size is known (e.g. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc300158(v=VS.85).aspx) and large enough. In that case we could remove the setting from the UI, and only honor -dbcache if set. Thoughts?
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3552018-02-26T18:16:38 <esotericnonsense> i'd be in favour of automatic dbcache / mempool / etc sizing. it seems obvious/useful enough that there's probably a reason we're not doing it though.
3562018-02-26T18:17:23 <esotericnonsense> e.g. on a 1GB machine it's really common for bitcoind to get oomkilled and it seems to me that anyone that really wanted it to use ~all of the system ram could set that.
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3582018-02-26T18:20:56 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #12542: Remove redundant includes. Conform to header include guidelines. (master...include-guidelines) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12542
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3662018-02-26T18:40:49 <provoostenator> I think the case for QT is stronger than bitcoind. GUI's are usually not on all the time. We may also want to flush if there's no activity for a while. I think this is especially useful during IBD, where the progress bar should make it obvious to users that this process can be a drain on their system.
3672018-02-26T18:41:12 <provoostenator> I also don't think many GUI users will feel comfortable touching these settings.
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3702018-02-26T18:45:22 <CubicEarths> provoostenator: GUI users include many technical people
3712018-02-26T19:07:37 <doo-dah> bitcoin.org seems to be down...
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3752018-02-26T19:16:58 <doo-dah> ...and it's back.
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3772018-02-26T19:18:11 * luke-jr is a GUI user.
3782018-02-26T19:20:17 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #12543: Fix typos (master...typos-201802) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12543
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3852018-02-26T19:34:31 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Empact opened pull request #12545: test: Extend wait time by .1 seconds to ensure ping goes out (master...ping-timing) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12545
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4012018-02-26T20:44:58 <tr4vis220202> When sending a bip-70 payment, bitcoin core sent to regular address instead of p2sh, hexdump of script is 76A9142AFD057FD359FC1C180B177D05F1B4191867471A88AC
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4092018-02-26T20:58:25 <sipa> tr4vis220202: are you sure the BIP70 request didn't contain a regular output?
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4112018-02-26T20:59:26 <sipa> as far as i can see in the code, it just uses the exact script requested in the BIP70 payment request - regardless of what type of output it is
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4162018-02-26T21:10:53 <tr4vis220202> when i decode it, there is an address, and a p2sh
4172018-02-26T21:12:09 <sipa> can you share the URI and the payment request?
4182018-02-26T21:12:29 <sipa> (perhaps privately)
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4292018-02-26T21:43:48 <michagogo> Quick question about the release notes
4302018-02-26T21:44:20 <michagogo> âBitcoin Core is extensively tested on multiple operating systems using the Linux kernel, macOS 10.8+, and Windows Vista and later.â
4312018-02-26T21:44:47 <michagogo> Is there actually anyone testing extensively on Vista?
4322018-02-26T21:44:53 * Randolf laughs
4332018-02-26T21:45:11 <sipa> I hope some people are testing the RCs on windows?
4342018-02-26T21:45:27 <michagogo> Yeah, but Vista?
4352018-02-26T21:45:34 <Randolf> I have been running RC3 and then RC4 on Windows 10 (64-bit).
4362018-02-26T21:45:45 <Randolf> Haven't had any problems with it.
4372018-02-26T21:45:45 <Chris_Stewart_5> doesn't microsoft even support vista anymore?
4382018-02-26T21:45:50 <Chris_Stewart_5> does*
4392018-02-26T21:46:01 <michagogo> Yeah, IIRC it EoLâd about a year ago
4402018-02-26T21:46:12 <sipa> oh, i'm not up to date on windows versions
4412018-02-26T21:46:24 <Randolf> There probably are people using Bitcoin on Windows 7. Windows Vista, I suspect, likely isn't used for much these days.
4422018-02-26T21:46:25 <sipa> but we still support vista, no?
4432018-02-26T21:46:50 <michagogo> And as far as I know, itâs not even like XP, which tons of people stuck with for way too long
4442018-02-26T21:47:03 <michagogo> sipa: thatâs the question
4452018-02-26T21:47:10 <Randolf> I have extra hardware and a Windows Vista license I could throw together to see if Bitcoin works on it.
4462018-02-26T21:47:17 <michagogo> Do we really, or did that just never get updated?
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4482018-02-26T21:47:55 <michagogo> And also, does it actually not work on XP, or do we just say we donât support it?
4492018-02-26T21:48:13 <michagogo> If the latter, we should drop Vista too imho
4502018-02-26T21:49:28 <Randolf> I'd suggest we move it up to Windows 7.
4512018-02-26T21:49:40 <Randolf> I can put a Pull Request in easily for that now.
4522018-02-26T21:53:00 <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] randolf opened pull request #12546: [docs] Minor improvements to Compatibility notes (master...patch-3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12546
4532018-02-26T21:53:17 <Randolf> See PR #12546 for this change.
4542018-02-26T21:53:18 <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12546 | [docs] Minor improvements to Compatibility notes by randolf · Pull Request #12546 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
4552018-02-26T21:56:44 <esotericnonsense> as far as I'm aware XP is used _more_ than vista
4562018-02-26T21:56:59 <Randolf> esotericnonsense++
4572018-02-26T21:57:12 <Randolf> Windows Vista was so horrible that most people seem to want to forget it even existed.
4582018-02-26T21:58:01 <sipa> Sounds like Windows ME to me.
4592018-02-26T21:58:10 <sipa> (coincidentally the last windows version I used...)
4602018-02-26T21:58:41 <Randolf> That's pre-WindowsXP stuff there.
4612018-02-26T21:58:41 <michagogo> esotericnonsense: right, thatâs my impression too
4622018-02-26T21:58:52 <Randolf> Vista came after XP.
4632018-02-26T21:59:24 <michagogo> Randolf: I donât think sipa was saying he thought we were talking about me
4642018-02-26T21:59:38 <michagogo> Rather, comparing the situation and the badness
4652018-02-26T21:59:44 <esotericnonsense> according to wikipedia, vista has consistently had about 1/5th the usage of XP for the past few years. according to their trackers anyway.
4662018-02-26T21:59:49 <Randolf> Oh, okay. :)
4672018-02-26T22:00:15 <esotericnonsense> statcounter has it as 0.41% in march 2017 vs 2% for XP (of the overall total, desktop, mobile, everything included)
4682018-02-26T22:00:38 <rabidus> mobile xp ..
4692018-02-26T22:00:50 <michagogo> Randolf: Iâm not sure MacOS is right
4702018-02-26T22:00:58 <michagogo> I donât think it was ever called that
4712018-02-26T22:01:19 <esotericnonsense> rabidus: no, as in, all browser stats. approx 45% desktop and 55% mobile for whatever sites they're tracking. so XP is 4% of desktops in that stat
4722018-02-26T22:01:28 <Randolf> Oh? I merely changed "macOS" to "MacOS" because I do remember supporting some MacOS computers at a help desk job many years ago.
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4742018-02-26T22:01:41 <Randolf> Maybe they've changed it since then?
4752018-02-26T22:01:55 <michagogo> It was Mac OS until over a decade ago, then Mac OS X. A while back they dropped the Mac and made it just OS X
4762018-02-26T22:02:17 <michagogo> In the last year or two (IIRC), it was renamed to macOS
4772018-02-26T22:03:13 <Randolf> Oh. I'll have to fix that then.
4782018-02-26T22:03:23 <Randolf> That new version looks like a mistake. Oh well. :)
4792018-02-26T22:03:52 <michagogo> 10.8 was still OS X (no Mac) if Iâm not mistaken, but 1. Iâm not sure if the renaming was retroactive or not, and 2. I feel like macOS is more understandable
4802018-02-26T22:04:47 <michagogo> They changed it in order to make their various OSes consistent
4812018-02-26T22:05:05 <michagogo> iOS, watchOS, tvOS, etc
4822018-02-26T22:05:14 <Randolf> Well, I see that "macOS" is indeed how they're marketing it on their web site nowadays, so you're obviously correct that the name should begin with a lower-case "m."
4832018-02-26T22:05:28 <michagogo> Donât know what the HomePod runs
4842018-02-26T22:05:41 <esotericnonsense> this is kind of a bitcoin question but kind of not. what's the trick to make bitcoin-qt not appear as a postage stamp on ubuntu with high dpi screens?
4852018-02-26T22:06:15 <esotericnonsense> is there a 'qt-tweaker' or something?
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4932018-02-26T22:24:57 <mlz> i've been testing the RCs on windows for a while now but ofc I don't check everything
4942018-02-26T22:28:29 <mlz> one thing i'm wondering if can be improved: cross-compiling for windonws on ubuntu 14 Trusty starting fresh from beginning to finishing takes about 4-5 hours, I wish this could be shorter
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