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 23 2018-05-21T02:28:00  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #13289: [Qt] Re-setup args after translator setup to translate help text (master...qt-help-translations) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13289
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 58 2018-05-21T06:11:16  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Empact opened pull request #13291: [moveonly] Extract tor_reply.h from tor_control.cpp (master...tor-reply) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13291
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 82 2018-05-21T07:27:47  <provoostenator> IIRC someone recently suggested that too much of a dbcache is not a good thing. Why would that be? Is that only the case for n < dbcache < max_historical_utxo_size ?
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 84 2018-05-21T07:37:07  <provoostenator> Reason I ask is because in my benchmarking for #12404 my impression is that luke-jr's 10% pruning approach is faster than my aggresive prune approach. That effect appears more pronounced as I increase dbache. Pruning 10% should lead to more prune events, which in turn would keep dbcache smaller as a side effect.
 85 2018-05-21T07:37:09  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/12404 | Prune more aggressively during IBD by Sjors · Pull Request #12404 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
 86 2018-05-21T07:37:41  <provoostenator> If that doesn't make any sense at all, then maybe I'm just seeing random noise, so thoughts welcome.
 87 2018-05-21T07:38:24  <luke-jr> provoostenator: I imagine the 10% pruning is most of the advantage
 88 2018-05-21T07:39:14  <provoostenator> That could well be, which is why I'm testing it, but I'm surprised if it's actively harmful to prune more. That suggests something else is going on.
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 90 2018-05-21T07:40:15  <luke-jr> yes, I wouldn't expect pruning more to be harmful
 91 2018-05-21T07:40:28  <luke-jr> except in terms of wallet syncing perhaps
 92 2018-05-21T07:40:33  <luke-jr> or similar
 93 2018-05-21T07:41:15  <provoostenator> This one is configured with --disable-wallet.
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 95 2018-05-21T07:42:45  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli pushed 5 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d792e47421fc...6738813bcbb7
 96 2018-05-21T07:42:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 131d445 John Newbery: scripted-diff: Rename master key to seed...
 97 2018-05-21T07:42:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c75c351 John Newbery: [refactor] manually change remaining instances of master key to seed.
 98 2018-05-21T07:42:47  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 79053a5 John Newbery: [rpc] [wallet] Add 'hdmasterkeyid' alias return values....
 99 2018-05-21T07:43:23  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #12924: Fix hdmaster-key / seed-key confusion (scripted diff) (master...master_key_to_seed) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/12924
100 2018-05-21T07:48:52  <provoostenator> (I think that "someone" was eklitzke)
101 2018-05-21T07:59:38  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli opened pull request #13292: Re-add bench_bitcoin to gitian binaries (master...2018/05/bench_gitian) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13292
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121 2018-05-21T08:43:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] KaneoHunter opened pull request #13293: Fixed grammar issue. (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13293
122 2018-05-21T08:46:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #13293: Fixed grammar issue. (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13293
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131 2018-05-21T09:49:45  <mmgen> question for the devs: to get a complete wallet backup with all historical transactions is it enough to back up wallet.dat, or must the database dir be backed up too?
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133 2018-05-21T09:53:39  <luke-jr> mmgen: the recommended way is to use the backupwallet RPC (or GUI equivalent)
134 2018-05-21T09:53:46  <luke-jr> but if you must copy the data manually, you need both
135 2018-05-21T09:54:07  <luke-jr> and from the same instant.. which may not be easy to get reliably
136 2018-05-21T09:54:27  <mmgen> luke-jr: however, backupwallet just makes a copy of wallet.dat, nothing more
137 2018-05-21T09:54:56  <mmgen> luke-jr: it doesn't copy the database directory, as far as I know
138 2018-05-21T09:55:28  <luke-jr> mmgen: it closes the database first, and makes a copy with it closed
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140 2018-05-21T09:55:50  <mmgen> luke-jr: so the wallet.dat it produces is a complete backup that contains all the history?
141 2018-05-21T09:56:07  <luke-jr> right
142 2018-05-21T09:56:23  <mmgen> luke-jr: ok, that's what I neede to know.  Thanks!
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145 2018-05-21T10:04:07  <mmgen> Just something I noticed: I'm running bitcoind with --connect=0, yet I'm getting error messages "Potential stale tip detected, will try using extra outbound peer".  Sort of silly, considering the daemon is running offline.
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170 2018-05-21T12:05:58  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #13294: Fix compiler warnings emitted when compiling under stock OpenBSD 6.3 (master...openbsd-warnings) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13294
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207 2018-05-21T14:38:19  <jamesob> cfields: is there a good place for me to undef HAVE_THREAD_LOCAL based on our findings that it's unsuitable for use on __APPLE__ and (apparently) __WIN32__? Can do it in threadutil.cpp as before, but it seems like there'd be a better place
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209 2018-05-21T14:44:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #13295: docs: Update OpenBSD build instructions for OpenBSD 6.3 (master...openbsd-6.3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13295
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212 2018-05-21T14:59:52  <Chris_Stewart_5> Does the protocol allow for different hash types for each signature in a multisig script?
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225 2018-05-21T15:37:16  <ryanofsky> jamesob, maybe just modify the autoconf test program to check for the behavior you need: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/configure.ac#L712-L729. or you could disable for known bad compiler versions
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229 2018-05-21T15:41:16  <jamesob> ryanofsky: I think for the time being we want to undef HAVE_THREAD_LOCAL for certain platforms even after that autoconf check - any idea of the appropriate place to do that?
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233 2018-05-21T15:42:47  <jimpo> kallewoof: You around by any chance?
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255 2018-05-21T16:43:08  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6738813bcbb7...092b36688142
256 2018-05-21T16:43:08  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4138f42 Ben Woosley: Revert "Merge #12870: make clean removes src/qt/moc_ files"...
257 2018-05-21T16:43:09  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 092b366 MarcoFalke: Merge #13254: Remove improper qt/moc_* cleaning glob from the general Makefile...
258 2018-05-21T16:43:55  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #13254: Remove improper qt/moc_* cleaning glob from the general Makefile (master...make-clean-qt-moc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13254
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263 2018-05-21T16:59:28  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jnewbery opened pull request #13297: [wallet] Fix incorrect comment for DeriveNewSeed. (master...derive_hd_seed_comment) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13297
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267 2018-05-21T17:17:45  <cfields> jamesob: maybe just exclude those OSs from the configure check?
268 2018-05-21T17:18:02  <cfields> heh yes, what ryanofsky said :)
269 2018-05-21T17:18:49  <cfields> jamesob: do you have a link to the busted mingw results? I'm curious to see the details
270 2018-05-21T17:19:17  <jamesob> cfields: https://gist.github.com/jamesob/fe9a872051a88b2025b1aa37bfa98605
271 2018-05-21T17:20:32  <cfields> thanks, looking
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275 2018-05-21T17:25:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/092b36688142...d82c5d15c504
276 2018-05-21T17:26:00  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master be87c6f John Newbery: [wallet] Fix incorrect comment for DeriveNewSeed.
277 2018-05-21T17:26:00  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d82c5d1 MarcoFalke: Merge #13297: [wallet] Fix incorrect comment for DeriveNewSeed....
278 2018-05-21T17:26:50  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #13297: [wallet] Fix incorrect comment for DeriveNewSeed. (master...derive_hd_seed_comment) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13297
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280 2018-05-21T17:42:44  <cfields> jamesob: confirmed, but i'm not sure if it's a mingw problem or a Wine one
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282 2018-05-21T17:43:14  <jamesob> cfields: yeah, good point. we'd need a native Windows platform to figure that one out, right?
283 2018-05-21T17:43:16  <cfields> I guess realistically, those are the same thing for us, as a Wine bug would keep us from testing entirely
284 2018-05-21T17:43:29  <cfields> jamesob: right
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287 2018-05-21T17:44:13  <cfields> bug was reported here, don't know if it was ever fixed: https://sourceforge.net/p/mingw-w64/bugs/445/
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290 2018-05-21T17:46:31  <cfields> jamesob: for platforms where we're enabling thread_local, we should add a runtime sanity check for sure
291 2018-05-21T17:47:55  <jamesob> cfields: what specifically are you thinking there?
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293 2018-05-21T17:48:21  <jamesob> something more in the AC_LINK_IFELSE program?
294 2018-05-21T17:48:28  <cfields> jamesob: see compat/glibc_sanity.cpp as an example. Imo we need compat/thread_local_sanity.cpp too
295 2018-05-21T17:48:50  <cfields> jamesob: no, something that's actually executed by bitcoind as a quick runtime check
296 2018-05-21T17:50:30  <jamesob> the testcase I wrote results in a stackoverflow though - is there a way to safely include something like that at runtime?
297 2018-05-21T17:50:43  <cfields> basically, if it compiles and links ok, there's still a chance something's busted. We need to be able to catch the mingw failure and refuse to run, even if we didn't know that it was busted
298 2018-05-21T17:51:03  <cfields> jamesob: see the link above. seems to give predictable-ish results
299 2018-05-21T17:51:38  <ken2812221> jamesob: I test your code on Ubuntu 18.04, it seems not an issue anymore.
300 2018-05-21T17:52:15  <ken2812221> I test it on native Windows and wine3.0
301 2018-05-21T17:55:47  <pierre_rochard> I’ve written a blog post for the 1.0 release of BitcoinACKs.com and would really appreciate any and all feedback before I publish it: https://gist.github.com/PierreRochard/dad65528025cfac21bc5521ef7e629ac
302 2018-05-21T17:56:03  <jamesob> ken2812221: interesting. thanks for testing.
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304 2018-05-21T17:56:42  <pierre_rochard> Additionally, if you would like to provide a short blurb quote explaining why you find the site useful, that would be appreciated!
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306 2018-05-21T18:01:15  <Chris_Stewart_5> pierre_rochard: Very cool
307 2018-05-21T18:02:37  <Chris_Stewart_5> pierre_rochard: Are you going to add that blurb to a help menu on the site?
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309 2018-05-21T18:04:27  <pierre_rochard> @chris_stewart_5 thanks! I was going to append blurbs to the blog post itself, and publish it as an "About" tab on the acks website, as well as on medium / my own website
310 2018-05-21T18:04:50  <jamesob> cfields: you're pretty confident that the bug described in that issue is the same one affecting us in the gist?
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312 2018-05-21T18:10:18  <cfields> jamesob: not sure, no. An issue either way, though
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326 2018-05-21T19:04:15  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] naumenkogs opened pull request #13298: Net: Random delays *per network group* to obfuscate transaction time (master...delay_per_net_group) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13298
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352 2018-05-21T20:15:33  <skeees> anyone here looking at / spending time reviewing the latest dandelion proposal (either bip or code)?
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355 2018-05-21T20:31:47  <sipa> skeees: yup
356 2018-05-21T20:32:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jamesob closed pull request #13200: Process logs in a separate thread (master...2018-05-asynclog) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13200
357 2018-05-21T20:33:45  <sipa> i was planning to go through it
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366 2018-05-21T21:19:52  <Varunram> Is anyone else having this bug on macOS? bitcoind starts fine but I can't seem to query it using bitcoin-cli
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368 2018-05-21T21:20:10  <Varunram> I'm on regtest and on commit d792e47421fcb9ce3b381c1e6d8902777ae3f9f3 for ref.
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370 2018-05-21T21:22:11  <sipa> define "can't seem to query it" ?
371 2018-05-21T21:22:48  <sipa> what do you do, what do you see, what do you expect to see
372 2018-05-21T21:22:51  <Varunram> sorry, should've been clearer: `Could not connect to the server`
373 2018-05-21T21:23:16  <sipa> are you sure bitcoind is running?
374 2018-05-21T21:23:31  <Varunram> yep
375 2018-05-21T21:23:43  <Varunram> btw, why is it trying to connect on that port?
376 2018-05-21T21:23:50  <Varunram> it should be 18443 right?
377 2018-05-21T21:24:01  <sipa> ah
378 2018-05-21T21:24:10  <sipa> are you passing -regtest to bitcoin-cli?
379 2018-05-21T21:24:33  <Varunram> oh my
380 2018-05-21T21:24:49  <sipa> :)
381 2018-05-21T21:24:57  <Varunram> was this added in 0.16? I can pretty much be sure I didn't do this in 0.15
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383 2018-05-21T21:25:50  <sipa> there is no way bitcoin-cli can know you're trying to connect to regtest without it
384 2018-05-21T21:25:53  <sipa> ever
385 2018-05-21T21:26:10  <Varunram> oh, ok. I guess i'd have had it in the conf then
386 2018-05-21T21:26:21  <Varunram> thanks!
387 2018-05-21T21:26:22  <sipa> that's possible
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424 2018-05-21T22:46:00  <satwo_> Hello all. Is the "witness_unknown" script type in Bitcoin Core essentially in place for backward compatibility in the event of a future soft fork adding a new witness script type (or increasing the version of an existing one)?
425 2018-05-21T22:48:08  <sipa> yes
426 2018-05-21T22:48:45  <sipa> because BIP173 defines an address type for future segwit versions, we need a way to parse and represent those
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428 2018-05-21T22:53:34  <satwo> Ok, thanks sipa. Would it be possible for someone to manually construct such an address type right now that the parser represents as "witness_unknown"?
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433 2018-05-21T23:01:07  <satwo> Not asking because I plan on doing so, but just want to make sure I understand things properly.
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442 2018-05-21T23:18:07  <luke-jr> satwo: yes, but it would be basically an anyone-can-spend and rejected by network policies
443 2018-05-21T23:18:40  <sipa> satwo: creating such an address would be trivial, yes
444 2018-05-21T23:19:19  <sipa> BIP173 even contains an example: bc1zw508d6qejxtdg4y5r3zarvaryvg6kdaj
445 2018-05-21T23:24:01  <Chris_Stewart_5> Does anyone know how to compile bitcoin core when there is a name conflict for threading libraries on windows?
446 2018-05-21T23:24:08  <satwo> Ah, that's what I was getting at, whether a tx with such an output could be relayed/mined at the present time. Thanks for the clarification gents.
447 2018-05-21T23:24:12  <Chris_Stewart_5> what is the flag that needs to be set on ./configure ?
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450 2018-05-21T23:25:35  <luke-jr> Chris_Stewart_5: why would there be?
451 2018-05-21T23:26:09  <Chris_Stewart_5> link to output: https://pastebin.com/ksnLcu3V
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453 2018-05-21T23:26:42  <Chris_Stewart_5> luke-jr: It's talked about in this foot note, but I'm not sure what flag needs to be set: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/build-windows.md#footnotes
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457 2018-05-21T23:32:20  <luke-jr> odd
458 2018-05-21T23:33:41  <sipa> Chris_Stewart_5: are you compiling _on_ windows or _for_ windows?
459 2018-05-21T23:34:34  <Chris_Stewart_5> sipa: Using the "Windows subsystem for Linux" which I beleive is the former?
460 2018-05-21T23:35:13  <sipa> the two footnotes there are specifically about issues when building on ubuntu for windows
461 2018-05-21T23:35:18  <sipa> i doubt they apply to WSL
462 2018-05-21T23:35:49  <sipa> ah, but WSL is derived from ubuntu?
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464 2018-05-21T23:36:39  <Chris_Stewart_5> sipa: Possibly? I'm not 100% sure. Today is the first day of learning of this :-)
465 2018-05-21T23:37:10  <Chris_Stewart_5> "The Windows Subsystem for Linux lets developers run Linux environments -- including most command-line tools, utilities, and applications -- directly on Windows, unmodified, without the overhead of a virtual machine. "
466 2018-05-21T23:38:05  <sipa> i don't know either
467 2018-05-21T23:40:44  <kallewoof> jimpo: Now I am :)
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