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  5 2018-08-29T00:24:49  <phantomcircuit> anybody know why we sleep in ThreadSocketHandler when select() fails ?
  6 2018-08-29T00:25:13  <phantomcircuit> (it's all the way back to satoshi so cant exactly ask the author)
  7 2018-08-29T00:28:23  <gmaxwell> presumably to avoid slamming it when it fails under the assumption that if it fails its not going to stop failing for a bit.
  8 2018-08-29T00:30:37  <phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, it seems like basically every way it can fail except EINTR is a catastrophic failure and should just exit
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 11 2018-08-29T00:32:21  <sipa> phantomcircuit: well, is it triggering for you?
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 13 2018-08-29T00:33:11  <phantomcircuit> sipa, no and i cant remember ever seeing "socket select error" in logs
 14 2018-08-29T00:33:25  <phantomcircuit> quick split up and search debug.log's far and wide
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 94 2018-08-29T05:18:53  <leishman> I had a node running 0.16.2 with a txindex. I updated the binary to 0.17rc2 and when starting up bitcoind it seems to hang on "Upgrading txindex database... [0%]"
 95 2018-08-29T05:19:50  <leishman> I'm not sure how long this is expected to take, but I've seen no progress displayed after 5-10 minutes
 96 2018-08-29T05:21:18  <leishman> I'm assuming this has to do with the changes to the txindex in 0.17
 97 2018-08-29T05:24:28  <leishman> ok got 10% progress after 10 minutes
 98 2018-08-29T05:26:06  <leishman> perhaps we should warn users that an upgrade for a node with a txindex could end up taking a while
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101 2018-08-29T05:28:51  <sipa> leishman_: do the release notes not say anything about that? if so, indeed
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106 2018-08-29T05:30:21  <leishman_> sipa: I don't see any mention of it here: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/0.17.0-Release-notes#transaction-index-changes
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109 2018-08-29T05:32:44  <leishman_> I see in jimpos PR here (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13033) that it was tested. What kind of migration times did others see?
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113 2018-08-29T05:49:27  <warren> leishman_: what kind of hardware?
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115 2018-08-29T05:50:56  <leishman_> warren: Intel J1900 Quad Core. 4GB ram, HDD
116 2018-08-29T05:52:30  <leishman_> i'm at 22% through the migration after about 30 minutes.
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121 2018-08-29T06:11:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] osbc opened pull request #14098: Dev (master...dev) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14098
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124 2018-08-29T06:12:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] osbc closed pull request #14098: Dev (master...dev) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14098
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152 2018-08-29T07:41:00  <wumpus> yessss @ bitcoin-git
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158 2018-08-29T07:51:35  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] osbc opened pull request #14099: Dev (master...dev) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14099
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162 2018-08-29T07:51:48  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] osbc closed pull request #14099: Dev (master...dev) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14099
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181 2018-08-29T09:12:13  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #14100: doc: Change documentation for =0 for non-boolean options (master...2018_08_nodoc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14100
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186 2018-08-29T09:53:56  <wumpus> phantomcircuit: please be really ,really careful about making things a catastrophic failure in network code
187 2018-08-29T09:54:20  <wumpus> there's a huge chance of accidentally creating DoS vectors
188 2018-08-29T09:59:45  <wumpus> (though, looking at the man page of select() I tend to agree; not sure it's the same on non-POSIX platforms though, select on windows is a different beast)
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204 2018-08-29T12:06:17  <zura_> Start
205 2018-08-29T12:06:31  <wumpus> !!!
206 2018-08-29T12:06:31  <gribble> Error: "!!" is not a valid command.
207 2018-08-29T12:06:31  <lightningbot> wumpus: Error: "!" is not a valid command.
208 2018-08-29T12:07:03  <zura_> Mulai
209 2018-08-29T12:07:19  <wumpus> STOP
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218 2018-08-29T12:16:45  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/13887f41f229...2ddce35abcb8
219 2018-08-29T12:16:45  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1661a47 Chun Kuan Lee: add unicode compatible file_lock for Windows...
220 2018-08-29T12:16:46  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2ddce35 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #13862: utils: drop boost::interprocess::file_lock...
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224 2018-08-29T12:17:40  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #13862: utils: drop boost::interprocess::file_lock (master...custom-filelock) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13862
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233 2018-08-29T13:00:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2ddce35abcb8...5924dadc2f2d
234 2018-08-29T13:00:24  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e2ba043 251: Implements ParseNetwork unit test....
235 2018-08-29T13:00:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7a208d9 251: Implements custom tolower and toupper functions....
236 2018-08-29T13:00:25  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b193d5a 251: Removes the Boost case_conv.hpp dependency....
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239 2018-08-29T13:01:04  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #13671: Remove the boost/algorithm/string/case_conv.hpp dependency (master...patch/remove_boost_case_conv.hpp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13671
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243 2018-08-29T13:14:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5924dadc2f2d...b0eb8f7ed43e
244 2018-08-29T13:14:10  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1d9aa00 Ben Woosley: Explicitly initialize prevector _union
245 2018-08-29T13:14:11  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b0eb8f7 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #14028: Explicitly initialize prevector _union...
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248 2018-08-29T13:15:10  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14028: Explicitly initialize prevector _union (master...prevector-explicit-initialization) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14028
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251 2018-08-29T13:25:09  <wumpus> can we please make a decision on what to to with tinyformat? either #13846 or #13845 or leave it as it is and close both
252 2018-08-29T13:25:11  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13846 | Move src/tinyformat.h to src/tinyformat/tinyformat.h by Empact · Pull Request #13846 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
253 2018-08-29T13:25:13  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/13845 | Include tinyformat as a subtree by Empact · Pull Request #13845 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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259 2018-08-29T13:35:05  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b0eb8f7ed43e...1361f8babcc1
260 2018-08-29T13:35:05  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6af6d9b João Barbosa: test: Add tests for RPC help
261 2018-08-29T13:35:06  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1361f8b MarcoFalke: Merge #14020: Add tests for RPC help...
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264 2018-08-29T13:35:59  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #14020: Add tests for RPC help (master...2018-08-test-help) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14020
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284 2018-08-29T14:31:37  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 4 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1361f8babcc1...888acefa5ee1
285 2018-08-29T14:31:38  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ddd395f MarcoFalke: Mark CTxMemPoolEntry members that should not be modified const
286 2018-08-29T14:31:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fe5c497 MarcoFalke: tx pool: Use the entry's hash instead of the one passed to addUnchecked
287 2018-08-29T14:31:39  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa58777 MarcoFalke: scripted-diff: Remove unused first argument to addUnchecked...
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290 2018-08-29T14:32:24  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #13792: tx pool: Avoid passing redundant hash into addUnchecked (scripted-diff) (master...Mf1808-constTxPoolEntries) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/13792
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304 2018-08-29T15:15:22  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/888acefa5ee1...4e9a6f87b7d2
305 2018-08-29T15:15:22  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa309dc MarcoFalke: validation: Log FormatStateMessage on ConnectBlock error in ConnectTip
306 2018-08-29T15:15:23  <bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4e9a6f8 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #14097: validation: Log FormatStateMessage on ConnectBlock error in ConnectTip...
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309 2018-08-29T15:16:36  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #14097: validation: Log FormatStateMessage on ConnectBlock error in ConnectTip (master...Mf1808-validationLogError) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14097
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312 2018-08-29T15:32:30  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky closed pull request #9381: Remove CWalletTx merging logic from AddToWallet (master...pr/atw-nomerge) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9381
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319 2018-08-29T15:55:36  <leishman> I added an update to the wiki with a note about the txindex db migration: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/0.17.0-Release-notes#how-to-upgrade
320 2018-08-29T15:56:52  <sipa> leishman: sgtm
321 2018-08-29T15:57:12  <sipa> also, i notice the release notes don't mention scantxoutset yet
322 2018-08-29T15:57:59  <sipa> (or i'm missing it)
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328 2018-08-29T16:10:03  <leishman> yeah I don't see that either
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331 2018-08-29T16:25:37  <marcinja> is getblockstats also new in 0.17?
332 2018-08-29T16:26:16  <sipa> i think so!
333 2018-08-29T16:32:09  <leishman> marcinja: is your feerate percentile stuff included in that as well?
334 2018-08-29T16:34:17  <marcinja> leishman: yeah I think that change is considered a bug fix for getblockstats
335 2018-08-29T16:34:29  <leishman> dope! Great work on that btw
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342 2018-08-29T16:56:50  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #14101: qa: Use named args in validation acceptance tests (master...Mf1808-qaNamedArgsAcceptance) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14101
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366 2018-08-29T18:33:19  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: I guess its good to know which peer supports what version of the p2p protocol _before_ you connect (in case of a non-compatible protocol).
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369 2018-08-29T18:35:36  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: but dropping NODE_ENCRYPTED is possible... you can just try to perform the v2 handshake and reconnect (&continue with v1 protocol) if failed.
370 2018-08-29T18:36:24  <sipa> that still requires remembering whether or not encryption succeeded, though
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373 2018-08-29T18:41:05  <luke-jr> jonasschnelli: why can't the handshake occur over v1?
374 2018-08-29T18:41:30  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: we would have to drag the legacy v1 protocol always with us
375 2018-08-29T18:41:43  <jonasschnelli> Assume new software doesn't want to adopt the v1 protocol
376 2018-08-29T18:41:58  <luke-jr> yes, so? we need that anyway
377 2018-08-29T18:42:03  <luke-jr> it could be some minimal subset
378 2018-08-29T18:42:18  <jonasschnelli> Also, the v2 handshake doesn't reveal "bitcoin traffic" (not very DPI resistant though)
379 2018-08-29T18:42:27  <luke-jr> hm
380 2018-08-29T18:42:37  <luke-jr> also, you don't *know* service bits until you connect
381 2018-08-29T18:42:42  <luke-jr> so this seems an issue either way
382 2018-08-29T18:42:45  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: IMO it doesn't make sense to handshake in v1 then upgrade to v2
383 2018-08-29T18:42:56  <jonasschnelli> luke-jr: yes. Same with NODE_BLOOM, etc.
384 2018-08-29T18:43:17  <jonasschnelli> But NODE_ENCRYPTED is something you lear if its working not from the VERSION message.:)
385 2018-08-29T18:43:23  <jonasschnelli> *learn
386 2018-08-29T18:43:36  <luke-jr> you get a guess at best
387 2018-08-29T18:43:47  <jonasschnelli> Yes. Same witn NODE_NETWORK
388 2018-08-29T18:43:49  <luke-jr> for bloom, that's still useful. not so much for encrpyted IMO
389 2018-08-29T18:44:10  <sipa> luke-jr: you don't want to negotiate in v1 first
390 2018-08-29T18:44:22  <sipa> that would defeat the purpose of not being recognizable as bitcoin traffic
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392 2018-08-29T18:44:43  <luke-jr> sipa: okay, but that problem is unrelated to the service bit
393 2018-08-29T18:45:01  <jonasschnelli> What sipa said with the disclaimer, that censorship-resistant is not the goal of BIP151
394 2018-08-29T18:46:12  <sipa> luke-jr: then what do you suggest instead? always first try v2 negotiation, and disconnect/reconnect if it fails?
395 2018-08-29T18:46:27  <sipa> luke-jr: that seems a gratuitous waste of time
396 2018-08-29T18:47:56  <luke-jr> I'm not sure.
397 2018-08-29T18:48:14  <luke-jr> probably not a waste of time long-term, though, considering that 99% of nodes run Core now :/
398 2018-08-29T18:48:45  <sipa> i think this is a pretty good match for a service bit
399 2018-08-29T18:49:12  <sipa> it's a property of the node itself, can be rumoured over the network, and is not a disaster if it's wrong
400 2018-08-29T18:50:07  <sipa> 
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402 2018-08-29T18:59:56  <jonasschnelli> sipa: for the ChaCha20Poly1305, do you think its sane to remove the second length-encryption key (chacha round) and instead use 4 bytes of the poly1305 key chacha round?
403 2018-08-29T19:01:11  <sipa> jonasschnelli: i'd rather keep the two encryption streams separate, but just treat them as streams
404 2018-08-29T19:01:19  <sipa> rather than reset the iv for every packet
405 2018-08-29T19:02:25  <sipa> oh, i see
406 2018-08-29T19:03:22  <sipa> you're saying instead use the auth's stream for the length encrpyption; hmm
407 2018-08-29T19:03:29  <jonasschnelli> yes
408 2018-08-29T19:03:51  <jonasschnelli> I'm not going to mess with the sequence number as IV
409 2018-08-29T19:04:19  <jonasschnelli> there is currently an extra round for the 4bytes length: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14050/files#diff-58a94ae53d4f04a57e9dc33014a679eaR70
410 2018-08-29T19:04:22  <luke-jr> sipa: but there's no reason for nodes to care in general
411 2018-08-29T19:06:30  <sipa> luke-jr: i don't understand why not
412 2018-08-29T19:06:47  <sipa> you need to know whhich protocol to use - otherwise you always have to try both
413 2018-08-29T19:07:23  <echeveria> or bind a different port.
414 2018-08-29T19:07:28  <sipa> plus i guess at some point nodes may start preferring encrypted connections
415 2018-08-29T19:07:38  <echeveria> normal peers don’t use non 8333 ports ever.
416 2018-08-29T19:07:48  <sipa> echeveria: in which case you still need a service flags to indicate that the other port is open
417 2018-08-29T19:07:55  <echeveria> yep
418 2018-08-29T19:08:02  <luke-jr> actually, protocol version might make sense for this?
419 2018-08-29T19:08:19  <sipa> luke-jr: protocop version isn't known before connecting
420 2018-08-29T19:08:22  <luke-jr> if we plan to deprecate the current one
421 2018-08-29T19:08:25  <echeveria> luke-jr: key
422 2018-08-29T19:08:29  <echeveria> kek
423 2018-08-29T19:08:37  <luke-jr> I thought it was with the version messages, no?
424 2018-08-29T19:08:47  <sipa> luke-jr: it's not in addr messages
425 2018-08-29T19:08:55  <luke-jr> oh
426 2018-08-29T19:09:01  <sipa> and the version message is only after setting up the encrypted connection
427 2018-08-29T19:09:26  <luke-jr> well, whatever. I guess we can always "de allocate" it later if the old protocol is abandoned
428 2018-08-29T19:09:37  <luke-jr> and we're not exactly short on service bits
429 2018-08-29T19:09:42  <sipa> exactly
430 2018-08-29T19:11:24  <gmaxwell> sipa: using the auth's stream for the length is apparently something the openssh things author considered but didn't so they could use unmodified library functions for the TLS thing.  This seems to be a pretty weak argument for slowing down short messages by 33%.
431 2018-08-29T19:13:20  <luke-jr> I guess I just see service bits more for the make-it-or-break-it type stuff, where you will drop the peer entirely if they don't have it
432 2018-08-29T19:13:37  <gmaxwell> "For more information on output descriptors, see the documentation at TODO
433 2018-08-29T19:13:38  <gmaxwell> "
434 2018-08-29T19:16:40  <sipa> luke-jr: well, it is; if you get it wrong, you need to disconnect (at which point you can choose to start over)
435 2018-08-29T19:16:56  <sipa> gmaxwell: seems i forgot about that, and people didn't review the rpc help text changes...
436 2018-08-29T19:18:13  <gmaxwell> the help text there is actually sufficient to use the function.
437 2018-08-29T19:19:27  <sipa> it doesn't explain all the features, though
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439 2018-08-29T19:21:53  <gmaxwell> thats true, but my point was that we can probably just remove that line for now.
440 2018-08-29T19:22:08  <jonasschnelli> gmaxwell: do you have a link to the openssh protocol discussion of that auth-stream thing?
441 2018-08-29T19:22:31  <gmaxwell> I linked sipa to it the other day, uh.. have to go searching since my irc client has been restarted.
442 2018-08-29T19:23:09  <sipa> gmaxwell: I have a PR that adds documentation and changes tge link
443 2018-08-29T19:23:22  <sipa> i thought that's why you  rought it up
444 2018-08-29T19:23:30  <sipa> (sorry, phone in car typing)
445 2018-08-29T19:23:54  <jonasschnelli> sipa: I'm not your mother, but that sounds dangerous. :)
446 2018-08-29T19:24:12  <sipa> jonasschnelli: i'm  ot driving :D
447 2018-08-29T19:24:20  <sipa> *not
448 2018-08-29T19:24:28  <gmaxwell> sipa: oh no, I brought it up because I was using the rpc. :P
449 2018-08-29T19:24:28  <jonasschnelli>  huh*.. glad you don't
450 2018-08-29T19:25:39  <sipa> #14096
451 2018-08-29T19:25:41  <gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/14096 | Add reference documentation for descriptors language by sipa · Pull Request #14096 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHubAsset 1Asset 1
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472 2018-08-29T20:11:05  <bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #14083: bench: Fix thread sanitizer issue in AssembleBlock benchmark (master...Mf1808-benchAssembleBlockThread) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/14083
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483 2018-08-29T21:49:39  <reza> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/yHN50SYq/
484 2018-08-29T21:49:54  <reza> Hey everyone.
485 2018-08-29T21:49:54  <reza> I had an idea for a Bitcoin wallet, i’d like to hear your thoughts about it.
486 2018-08-29T21:49:54  <reza> To summarise, this wallet is a P2P-Multi-Sig wallet. Meaning that, Alice and Bob connect to each other and a multi-sig wallet is created between them. Whenever Alice or Bob wants to move the funds from that multi-sig they send each other an invoice which then they can approve or disapprove.
487 2018-08-29T21:49:54  <reza> Thoughts?
488 2018-08-29T21:53:43  <promag> reza: this channel is bitcoin-core specific
489 2018-08-29T21:54:19  <promag> I mean, specific to development of bitcoin-core
490 2018-08-29T21:54:40  <reza> ok cool, thanks anyway
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